Thread 11964823

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>>11964823 (OP)
>using weapons
>collecting armor
>collecting heart tanks
you did not beat the game.

>enemy has weakness
>you can exploit it once you discover it
>THIS IS LAME LOL
Dark Souls and Elden Ring have ruined an entire generation of gamers...
Does every fucking enemy have to be stiff challenge and match you? Whatever happened to feeling powerful after unlocking new weapons and abilities??.

>>11964823 (OP)
what game?

>>11964823 (OP)
>adds a more complex movement system that's fun to speed through levels with
>then also adds this shit mechanic
what were they thinking? well actually i know what they were thinking, that it would look cool to do more than just damage to a boss and instead change his patterns and even remove some attacks (like cutter on mammoth) and tbf that is cool and even novel but but in terms of solely combat it's not as fun.
>>11964832
underage or just retarded? you can feel powerful by doing cool powerful shit in battle against a tough opponent too. play more games if dark souls is the first thing you think of for that.

>>11964841
>you can feel powerful by doing cool powerful shit in battle against a tough opponent too.
OP webm related!

>>11964823 (OP)
This one is ridiculous, yeah, but to be fair, this boss otherwise is pretty hard. Especially since that means you haven't visited Chill Penguin and don't have dash yet
>>11964836
Gran Turismo

>>11964836
Doki Doki X: Mega Madness

>>11964823 (OP)
And people act like I'm crazy for not thinking Mega Man X is some peak action game.

It's polished but the level design and bosses are really underwhelming and the game is way too easy unless you specifically go out of your way to handicap yourself.

>>11964841
If its not fun then just use the buster. Nobody forces you to use weaknesses. Have some self control.
>>11964901
You're not crazy, just a faggot with bad taste in games. Not using sub weapons isn't "going out of your way to handicap yourself," any more than not using the sELECt glitch in MM1 is. Weaknesses affecting boss patterns is a thing in most of the X series because it's an intuitive way of showing new players which weapon a boss is weak against without having to count whether it goes down by 2 or 3 every time they get hit. Doing bosses buster only is less of a limitation than shit like pistol starting in a game like doom, especially since you're forced to fight at least one boss buster only no matter what.

>>11964823 (OP)
You can stunlock a few bosses with their weaknesses in X. Penguin, Chameleon, can all be stunlocked Mandrill and Armadillo and Kuwanger can be cheesed super easy.

>>11964841
To be fair, I really like the dual challenge Megaman gives. You can try and exploit weaknesses as a strategic move to make things easier or you can just try and overpower them with the regular buster. It gives the game some depth that you can approach it slow and methodical like a puzzle or just brute force things.

>>11964836
Super Metroid

>>11964836
Astro Boy Omega Factor

Stolen weapons are for speedruns. If you used anything besides the default buster, you didn't beat the game.

how do you know the weakness on your first playthrough? anything beside trial and error?

>>11965304
uhhh, they follow basic logic

>>11965354
i'm pretty sure eagles eat chameleons rather than the other way around

>>11965304
>trial and error
It's not like you just fucking die instantly if you use the wrong weapon... have you never played a Mega Man game before?

You use all your weapons you got equipped with to see which is the one the current boss is weak against. The final boss of Mega Man 2 can really only be damaged by the usually weak and slow-moving bubble attack, for example.

>game is boring when you intentionally play it in an unfun way
Woah...

>>11964836
Cyberpunk 2120

>>11964901
the whole series is like this. the rock-paper-scissors mechanic makes it easy to cheese the bosses, if you want a real challenge you go buster only

>>11964832
Isn't every enemy in those games exploited by a dodge or something? Never played them.

>>11964823 (OP)
This is indeed a game for children under 12, yes

>>11964901
The whole fun of Mega Man games is that Mega Man himself is weak. Then you start beating bosses and getting new abilities, getting slowly more powerful and versatile with weapons with different utilities, power and firing angles. They made a mistake (that they corrected with 9 and 10) when they added a charge shot. The X series as a whole is this mistake taken up to 11. You can become way too powerful to the point where in some games you can just air dash over most enemies while charging your screen clearing charge shot for the enemies you can't skip, saving the boss weapons, the main gimmick of the series, as just something you use against the other bosses for their weaknesses. Then when they made a harder game (X6) it was mostly badly designed bullshit.

>>11965437
>game gives no incentive to engage with the difficulty
>don't engage with the difficulty
>bro it's your fault that the game isn't designed well!
What is up with this mindset? Game/difficulty design is about putting the player into difficult situations. If you can cheese the game, it's not your fault for cheesing it; it's the developer's fault for letting you do that.

>>11964832
>Whatever happened to feeling powerful
This doesn't make the player feel powerful
It makes the enemy feel weak
There's a difference

Weaknesses just add to the overall flexibility of Mega Man games, they're good to use on your first few playthroughs to get a feel for the game and proceed smoothly, and they're rewarding to find by yourself, but there's no denying they're basically a win button in most cases and you're missing on part of the experience by using them since you don't really get the full boss experience, you may not see all his attacks, learn his patterns, etc, you're also robbing yourself from the freedom that comes with the stage select feature by having to follow the weakness chain for the stage order.

But that's perfectly okay, because after beating the game several times to build enough confidence, you can always go back and challenge the game buster-only and random stage order, which is fun and rewarding in its own way, that's why Mega Man games are so replayable. I would probably have given up on the franchise as a 7yo shitter if not for the weakness system, but these days as an adult I hardly use them.

Only a disingenuous faggot could post that webm with such terrible template post. Way to out yourself as an idiot

>>11964829
>not playing blindfold
get on my level.

>>11965514
>game gives no incentive to engage with the difficulty
It being fun is the incentive. You control the buttons you press, and watching no amount of midwit video essays about game design will ever change that.

>he needs to use a weakness

Get on my level

>>11964836
Darude - Sandstorm

>>11965554
More so than old games themselves I miss the days of when this was the approach to playing them, now everything is about deconstructing the gameplay and demonstrating how to finish a game in the shortest time possible. An exploit is convenient here and there (such as if I have an actual real time need to get past something) but to do that for the entirety of a game is mind-numbing. I'm sure everyone would like their favourite games to all be perfectly balanced but ultimately the states in which they were released in were what made them as replayable as they are.

>>11964823 (OP)
Looks gay and shitty

>using attacks of any kind

just jump on him 3 times

>>11965556
Poor toadman, he was only dancing

>>11965556
Megafags will just say you're using an 'exploit' as if it's so hard to figure out that fucking Toad Man and Spark Mandrill can be looped

>>11964832
>Dark Souls
Has this exact same thing with ceaseless discharge and taurus demon.

>>11964836
doom 3

>>11965556
thats MM4s problem in a nutshell
theres almost no reason to not just use charge for everything

>>11965946
That's incorrect, the charge shot is balanced in 4. It's in 5 and 6 that there is no reason not to use it.

>>11964823 (OP)
you KNOW you felt like a badass when you did this same shit as a 9yr old though
esp figuring it out on your own

>>11964823 (OP)
Using the right weapon makes some robot masters trivial? In MY mega man?

>>11965729
This really misaligns my QPUs.

>>11964832
Those games have the same sort of “exploits” in them, it’s gaymers that sperg out about it and insist that you shouldn’t use the tools the games give you because if you do you aren’t hardcore enough for them or whatever

>>11964836
Battletoads

>>11964836
Jackie Chan

>>11966264
Which one? Famicom, PSX, PS2?

ACK Mandrill

>>11966265
Mega Drive, obviously.

>>11964836
Action Replay for NDS

>>11965508
the charge shot wasn't that op in 4, although the important thing is that most weapons in 4 (and 9, 11, and x1's) are very useful. too many mega man games have a majority of shitty weapons that you wouldn't even use over the peashooter.

>Presented without comment
…is a comment.

>>11965442
>2120
I like that Leviticus 21:20 says that men who wear glasses can't be priests but every priest, rabbi and imam ever wears glasses.
>>11966265
TG16 is the only good one.
>>11964832
>Dark Souls
You people keep bringing this game up and I don't even know what it is. Why does it get mentioned so often?

>>11966825
>TG16 is the only good one.

I liked the Famicom game

>>11966825
>Why does it get mentioned so often?
Demons/Dark Souls used to be /v/'s darling, but it got popular and mainstream so /v/kiddies have to go around saying how much they hate it to prove their coolness.

You can type IDDQD and IDKFA in Doom and make the game incredibly easy. IDSPISPOPD and make it even easier. Now THAT is some shit design.

>>11964823 (OP)
X:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9JpwwsCKRc

>>11964823 (OP)
Why do people say "presented without comment"? The presentation itself is the comment

>>11967187
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>>11967198
In this space where it said "do not write here", he wrote "OK"

>>11964829
I like to explore and collect stuff. Stfu

>>11964829
why'd they make an unbeatable game then

>>11968673
You see, you are supposed to glitch through a wall to bypass this capsule and also glitch around Zero in Sigma Fortress 1 so he doesn't give you the buster upgrade.
Unless you break the games coding rather than engage with any of its systems, I am afraid you did not beat it.

>>11964823 (OP)
Excellent strategy. It's good to beat an enemy with your reasoning, instead of dumb reflexes for once.