Thread 11966476

The controls are fucking terrible for how hard this game is.

I dropped it after 10 minutes, am I missing anything? Why the fuck would I play this trash over Sin & Punishment or Star Fox 64?

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>>11966493
If the game has trash controls it's not worth my time. There's not even any fucking continues, it just restarts you at the first stage every time.

Get better bait, or better yet, kill yourself

>>11966476 (OP)
>>11966497
You noticed it, right, anons? once again, the N64 kid has the poorest adaptability of any gamer. Growing up with the N64 is a genuine disability.

>>11966504
NTA but Wild Guns really isn't that good grandpa

>>11966476 (OP)
Kill yourself, really, this is the worst bait I have seen in my fucking life

>>11966528
>can swap between control presets, but no option to put roll on trigger
>body obscures the action
>what determines whether you roll or jump... is if you're shooting (???) instead of just using any of the other four buttons on the controller
>no option to disable cursor moving when you move
It just feels awful to have two distinct modes of aiming, one where aim moves independent of you, and one where you are forced to move with your aim. You have to move, adjust back, move, adjust back, move, adjust back. You're already using a d-pad to do what a lightgun or mouse should be doing, the least you could do is implement the d-pad controls properly.

Why not just have aiming with d-pad and movement with L and R? Why not have a toggle for locking aim? Why not have a setting to make it so that your cursor doesn't move when you do?

There is no excuse for it, an action game's biggest opponent should never be its control system that you are fighting the whole time.

>>11966554
>>body obscures the action
No it doesn't, most of the action is above the player's sprite

>all this about cursor movement when shooting
Wild Guns is not about shooting while moving. It's about shooting while standing still and moving as little as possible. As suggested by the fact that you can't move while shooting, by the fact that your score multiplier goes up the longer you stay still without letting go of the shooting button, and by the fact that you can shoot most things enemies throw at you. That when you move, you should prioritize rolls.

>>11966554
Seriously, open your window and jump

>>11966562
>No it doesn't, most
>most

>It's about shooting while standing still and moving as little as possible
then why does moving move the target reticle?

Is the same retard who made that bait Shatterhand, same posting style.

>>11966493
You need at least 100 hours in a Gen 4 game. Rent it from blockbuster 10 times to justify if it was good or not.

>>11966493
I feel like my impressions after 10 minutes are 95% accurate to how I feel after 10+ hours. Some games are a slow burn that you warm up to, some games the cracks only start showing as you play more, but as a whole, 10 minutes tells you A LOT about a game, hell even just like 20 seconds does.

If you can't get a good idea of how a game is after 10 minutes, I feel like you just haven't played enough games.

>>11966554
>Why not have a setting to make it so that your cursor doesn't move when you do?
It's called jumping, retard.

>>11966649
>you have to jump around like a retard to make the cursor not move
you're really not doing the game any favors here

>>11966676
Trying to convince an obvious tasteless retard like yourself of the game's greatness would be a pointless endeavor, clearly there's an IQ barrier for you.

>>11966602
>I feel like my impressions after 10 minutes are 95% accurate

You would have made a great pro reviewer

>>11966691
It's one of the most braindead genres except with ruined controls.

>>11966727
You consider it braindead and yet you're filtered. Really makes you think, well not you specifically, obviously.

>>11966731
>you don't want to wade through trash controls and memorize every spawn in this braindead trash game with one shot kills and no continues???
>DAT MEANS UR STOOPID!!!
letting brown people have internet was a mistake.

>>11966476 (OP)
I remember first time playing this by renting it from blockbuster. Nice little romp for a weekend, but not something I'd ask for the limited requests for Xmas/Bday gifts.

>>11966738
If you want twin stick gameplay and checkpoints out the ass, you shouldn't play retro games. What a whiny baby.

>>11966742
>Sin & Punishment
>twin stick

Star Fox 64
>twin stick

>Why not just have aiming with d-pad and movement with L and R?
>twin stick

>Why not have a toggle for locking aim?
>twin stick

>Why not have a setting to make it so that your cursor doesn't move when you do?
>twin stick

You really are fucking stupid, huh?

>>11966749
The designers made the game around the controls. You want the game to be easier because you're a filtered casualfag retard. It's the same kind of philistine whining as "why can't I move and shoot in Resident Evil? Da other games do it, why not this one?".

>>11966757
>The designers made the game around the shit controls
Which is why I'm not playing. Shit controls permeate into every aspect of the game and ruin it.

>>11966762
What a great loss it is that a casual retard got filtered by basic controls... oh the humanity.

>>11966757
RE4 has design reasons why you can't move and shoot, and is immensely satisfying to play, with the stand and shoot adding to the tension.

Wild Guns has control issues because the devs are retards who never even considered the options and it severely hampers the game. The issue isn't standing still to shoot, it's forced cursor movement upon movement with slow cursor speed that always creates a disconnect

>>11966769
>it's forced cursor movement upon movement with slow cursor speed that always creates a disconnect
Genuine, honest to god skill issue.

>>11966762
>casual retard
>with no death clears in Sin & Punishment, all the Metal Slug games, multiple Contra games, multiple Castlevania games, both GnG games, Sunset Riders, both Shinobi games (RoS and 3), Gun.Smoke, and Rastan
Lmao

>>11966765
>casual retard
>with no death clears in Sin & Punishment, all the Metal Slug games, multiple Contra games, multiple Castlevania games, both GnG games, Sunset Riders, both Shinobi games (RoS and 3), Gun.Smoke, and Rastan
Lmao

>>11966779
So, are you going to do this with every Natsume game?

I can't wait to see the ways in which Shadow of the Ninja or Pocky & Rocky filter you.

>>11966782
Oh it's the Metal Slug 2 schizo. Of course he has the most retarded opinion you've ever heard of, as always. Clearly a special needs individual at this point.

>>11966771
Genuine, honest to God control issue, actually.

>>11966783
I got a no death clear in the arcade version of Pocky & Rocky, as well as Abadox for NES. Dogshit games, I'll tell you what.

Shatterhand was also terrible, didn't bother to do no death clear but would be really easy if I could stomach that trash game for an hour.

>>11966786
The control issue is that a literal, drooling, braindead, actual, unironic, r-e-t-a-r-d is holding it in his barely functioning hands. No wonder you cheat with turbo fire in every game.

>>11966792
>No wonder you cheat with turbo fire in every game.
Not every game, just those that need it. Only shitters cry about turbo fire. If turbo fire ruins your game, your game was shit.

>>11966797
Turbo fire can't help your dumbass comprehend the controls in Wild Guns. Controls that are not complicated by the way. It's a very pick up and play game, well if you're not a fucking retard that is.

>>11966602
I've changed my tune about several games. I remember I played Splinter Cell Chaos Theory back in the day for 10 minutes and hated it, then played it again several years later, gave it a honest chance, and it became one of my favorite games ever.

>>11966786
>I got a no death clear in the arcade version of Pocky & Rocky, as well as Abadox for NES. Dogshit games, I'll tell you what.

I hate to be encouraging (You) but I kek'd so hard my gf in the other room asked me what's so funny.

>>11966803
I understand them perfectly clear, that's how I know they're shit and the game isn't worth my time.

>>11966815
>I understand them perfectly clear
Clearly not since your sub-85 IQ self couldn't figure out jumping or rolling. Lmao literally fucking retarded.

Reminder that someone who brags about vidya skills as an answer for being called out for shitposting is pure subhuman behavior. Also your arguments about design are pure nonsense and your attitude warrants a brutal death.

>>11966843
>Reminder that someone who brags about vidya skills as an answer for being called out for shitposting is pure subhuman behavior. Also your arguments about design are pure nonsense and your attitude warrants a brutal death

>>11966476 (OP)
Your comments only apply to Reloaded, not the original
Reloaded is unfair as fuck and the 16:9 resolution adds in so many enemies that it’s impossible to 1cc solo, much less without using the new dog character that seems to be the focus of the new game’s design
There should’ve been a 4:3 classic mode because what the fuck is that difficulty

>>11966878
Reloaded also fucks the scoring system into oblivion by not allowing the vulcan gun to combo. Now it's a punishment to get it, stupid as hell.

>>11966878
>Reloaded is unfair as fuck and the 16:9 resolution adds in so many enemies that it’s impossible to 1cc solo

How am I the only one who noticed that despite having more enemies at once, Reloaded is actually easier because each enemy was made slower and less intelligent to compensate?

On top of this, the widescreen hardly even makes a difference because if you're playing well you don't spend time fidgeting in the middle of the screen. Instead you sit in a corner, which means that enemies on the opposite side of the screen have their bullets travel for a longer time than in the original if before they can hit you, if they even bother to aim at the opposite side of the screen at all.

They did the same thing in Ninja Warriors btw (more enemies but dumber enemies).
Also I've done 1CCs so it's not impossible

>>11966476 (OP)
>Why the fuck would I play this trash over Sin & Punishment or Star Fox 64?
For one, these games did not exist when that came out. Also different games.

>>11966518
Better than whatever ass cancer you play.

>>11966554
This is a you problem and you alone. You are probably the same fag bitchn about Shatter Hand. What's your next thread going to shit on? Hagane? Rocket Knight Adventures?

>>11967362
Rocket Knight (at least on Genesis) is awesome. I actually want to do a no death of that one, probably not the hardest difficulty meme mode though..

sperg thread

>>11966476 (OP)
i agree with you. i beat this game. i think its overrated and dont get why its so praised. decent graphics, gameplay, etc , sure, but man its a very dislikeable gameplay as a whole

>>11967585
>t. OP

>>11967585
>decent gameplay
>dislikeable gameplay

>"untouchable, perfect" SNES game
>it fucking sucks
Every time. Meme console and you can safely ignore anybody proselytising for it.

>thought I just wasn't a shmup person after trying a bunch and not enjoying them
>on a whim I get Wild Guns Reloaded
>it's fucking awesome and I have a great time

>>11968067
>I'm not a SHMUP person
>play a game that isn't a SHMUP
>I love it

You don't say

>>11968135
Shmup isn't an acronym

>>11968258
Don't care

>>11968067
>I thought point-and-click adventure games weren't for me, but then I tried X-COM: UFO Defense and it was amazing!
???

>Buy game to support devs
>They release a superior Switch version

Anyway, what's wrong with the games controls?

>>11968258
I AM SHMOOOOOOOOOOOPING

>>11966554
Yeah that is kind of the theme with arcade action, your moves are limited and you have to get used to it

>>11966554
Are you the same drooling mong who got filtered by Alien Soldier? I've seen these exact talking points word for word. Do you play fucking anything?

Why is it you can't ever criticise something in this place without it being considered bait?

>>11968418
How was that version superior?

>everyone saying Reloaded is super easy
>i can't even beat stage one without dying
It's OVER

>>11971519
79% of people didn't even beat stage 1
97% didn't beat the game (with unlimited continues)

Genuinely almost no one likes or even beats this game, one of tbe most overrated pieces of shit praised by posers

>>11971525
>likes
I like it ;-;
>beats
Well I definitely admit to that, I'm getting slaughtered

>>11971274
>this thing you liked?
>it's dogshit heh
it's inherently a bait topic, the desired effect is to get people to seethe

>>11971529
At least they're looking for new games for refreshment instead of reusing FFVII forever.

>>11971529
That's a pretty dishonest look at OPs complaint
OP may have been vitriolic, but he's complaining about the controls and whether the design is justified or not
To me it belies a really close minded attitude to just accept "thing is old therefore good" mindset, you gotta think and discuss things rather than just call any outlier opinion bait

>>11966476 (OP)
>Why the fuck would I play this trash over Sin & Punishment or Star Fox 64?
I think the bigger question is why do you think anyone else gives a fuck what you do or do not do?

Either way: git gud

>>11971525
Proudly one of the 3% who didn't get filtered. The SNES original is better though.

>>11966481

fpbp desu. No better word for it.

>>11971531
OP is an idiot who should not exist, which means OP's post and thread should not exist. This simple and obvious fact does not rely on any claims about how good Wild Guns is or about how its quality relates to its age. Yes, it's likely that OP was mostly sincere and is only accidentally trolling; savages and people with personality disorders tend to do that. Accidental trolling is still trolling, and bad people don't deserve the benefit of the doubt.

>>11972374
See >>11966865

you are a cringe reddit faggot with no clears, fuck off

>>11972374
If you go through life thinking anyone who has a differing opinion shouldn't exist then you're in for a tough life