Thread 11967587

What the fuck was so controversial about KILLING demons? I can understand Mortal Kombat being controversial but you would think religious people wouldn't oppose the idea of shooting a demon in the face.

>>11967587 (OP)
the gore and violence
the fact that youre killing anything
back then we didnt kill daemons we smited them its different

>>11967587 (OP)
1. People didn't know the context of the game. They were just presenting it as a mass shooter game shooting soldiers.
2. It was then a new game with a lot of violence. People thought humans were grey slabs of goo that were molded by their inputs. Thus you are turning a teenager into a kill-bot.

nobody gave a fuck about any of this except for a few boomers who complained about the wolfenstein level, at least until columbine.

I think it's just retarded evangelicals. It feels like, to me, that just depicting a demon at all, as well as violence, is enough for those kinds of people to freak the absolute fuck out. Context isn't needed as long as it sounds or looks "bad". Is it retarded? Yes. Does it not add up? Of course.

If we're talking id, I'd be more willing to understand something like Quake being "controversial" due to the crucified Christ statues and pentagram invulnerability powerup (to the point that your health becomes 666 and telefrag obituaries label it as "Satan's dark power" or some shit). What the hell did Doom have in comparison? Soulspheres?

religious people were insufferable back then

Reviewers at the time were more interested in talking to the monsters.

Gore in vidya was controversial, inflicted onto humans or not. Simple as that.

>>11967646
This. I had some american friends who weren't allowed to play Diablo, a game where the goal is literally to kill the Devil, because their parents thought it was an anti-christian game.

>>11967587 (OP)
>What the fuck was so controversial about KILLING demons?

Gore.
And it was controversial mostly in US because christcuckery.

>>11967587 (OP)
>>11968409
>>11968435
It is a sin and a grave fallacy to many religious people to depict killing demons, especially through simple means such as a weapon with no righteousness and no need for faith or God.
Humans are not God and cannot defeat Satan by themselves through purely physical means.
Furthermore, this leads to the fallacy that you can challenge Satan and endure vices and sin because you think you are strong enough to overcome it.
They say the greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing you he didn't exist. The second greatest was convincing you that you could defeat him.
(I am expressing the views of people who believe this, so no seething meltdowns depicted towards me, thank you)

>>11967587 (OP)
Same thing that was controversial about it when D&D did it in the 70s: the media stirred up shit to make a story out of nothing and amplified the retards that bought their lies in order to back up their lies.
Basically journalism happened.

Just depicting demons and satanic imagery was taboo. Same reason why The Exorcist was controversial even though exorcism movies are the most blatantly pro Christian movies Hollywood has ever produced.

>>11967587 (OP)
the '90s MSM always tried to trump up one evangelical trying to drum up publicity as though they had any real political base to keep regular people alienated from them

>>11967587 (OP)
It was a part of a wider satanism scare, deflecting it towards silly things like video games was how it was suppressed. The actual trigger was repressed memory therapy that was making too many people remember grotesque rituals that were performed on them as infants. There is also an Epstein connection there, as with most things seemingly.

>>11967675
Not much has changed except the religious people are less religious and more insufferable

>>11968883
>religious people are less religious and more insufferable
i dont know how anyone could live thru the 80s/90s and say the are more insufferable. back then the religious right were the censors. now its the godless left who are exponentially worse and more deranged

American Christianity is retarded as fuck

>>11967587 (OP)
Some guy used the game to train for a school shooting, allegedly.

>>11968312
Kek, was that in Edge magazine?

>>11967587 (OP)
They never played the fucking game. They just whipped up their niggercattle Karen Evangelical base and said THINK OF THE CHILDREN!

>>11967587 (OP)
this book has your answer

>>11968874
What the fuck? What conspiracy theory is this? Genuinely curious

>>11968441
I understand the concern of "overcoming demons without God", but like... do these people have any self awareness of how
>It's a sin to depict killing a demon
sounds? I get that it's not accurate, but flat out saying it's a sin to depict any sort of physical resistance against demons sounds like a mix of legalistic autism and covert Satan defense to me
(I know you're not the one who believes this, I'm just arguing against it)

>>11968874
I don't really know anything about it but I am sure anon is talking about satanic ritual abuse

It sounds stupid now but because the game was what we know now as first person. I remember adults saying "its like youre actually in the game!". Instead of seeing your character they thought thay you somehow being in his shoes would brainwash you. I know there was other 1st person games but Doom was definitely the first mainstream game like that with alot of violence

>>11972105
Wikipedia is a start if you ignore the obvious bias
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satanic_panic
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recovered-memory_therapy

Note the name of Elizabeth Loftus, whom they rolled out again in 2021
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-12-27/ghislaine-maxwell-jeffrey-epstein-false-memories-defence/100724358

>>11968435
>And it was controversial mostly in US because christcuckery.
Cunt Germany had every depiction of blood changed to green and forced to make the enemies "zombies". China won't even allow skeletons in their game because spooky scary superstitions. The US is hardly the odd one out here. That doesn't negate the fact that the single soccer moms still deserved to be banned from media all together.

>>11967587 (OP)
People thought Wolfenstein 3D turned people into Nazis. You know, the game where you KILL Nazis.

You had to understand that the senators literally thought Night Trap was a game where you murder women in the shower, they probably looked at doom and thought it was a murder simulator

>>11967587 (OP)
because boomers didn't understand the concept of protagonist and bad guys in videogames and considered the whole content like a thing you had to adhere to.
a bit like some retards don't understand that songs are not always written from the first person but often through a character.
as media evolve, people's perception of fiction does too. my mom hated Wolfenstein 3D because to her the game=nazis.
the real explanation is often dumber than you can imagine.
you'd think they got it while reading books and watching movies but no.
people"s understanding of perspective is not always universal but more contextual.

Will someone please think of the children!!