Thread 11968739

DOOM THREAD / RETRO FPS THREAD - Last thread: >>11959901

Doom/Quake/Duke/Heretic/Hexen/Unreal/Sam/Half-Life/etc
Gameplay, WADs/Maps/Mods, Source Ports
All other 90s FPS welcome
~ Let's post like gentlemen ~

FAQ/GENERAL GUIDE
https://rentry.org/vrbin

SO YOU WANT TO PLAY SOME FUCKING DOOM
(or Quake, Duke, Marathon, Deus Ex)
https://imgur.com/a/wWS8zXz

Same thing, in video format:
https://youtu.be/ietb4JwaaXA
https://youtu.be/DhOjleMqwdQ
https://youtu.be/CGj4gXyCzg0

== GAMES/RESOURCES ==
DOOM Quickstart (IWADs etc): https://mediafire.com/file/wuniyrhsjjgq4y8
QUAKE Trilogy FAQ: https://pastebin.com/Ucb11XhU

PortaDOOM:
https://github.com/Kroc/PortaDOOM/releases
HALF-LIFE (GoldSrc) Anthology:
https://mega.nz/file/GRUCGbAY#RhOiqxnf7UPOiXcJNbRh-prKIEVRhjJaEpAkt34lyZg
4CHAN DOSPACK + Win98 games:
https://mega.nz/#F!3t8nzSIS!947kyMN6Z80f8HS7q2XlqA

Assorted /vr/ shooters, mods, etc:
https://mega.nz/#F!QXIk1bjB!NHRWGIfjcc77PyGgRlga4Q
https://mega.nz/#F!GtEQTISJ!CCJGyPEEEsZasc1PMXicUA

MIDI COLLECTIONS
https://files.catbox.moe/2hul76.zip
https://mega.nz/file/dWQ3SThI#qYcpa4eGQj6ElyRZgjGqszR59dh4Fq9D3qXYee54kZQ
https://archive.org/details/archiveteam-geocities-midi-collection-2009
https://archive.org/details/midiru-archive-2022-02-25.7z

== INFO/LINKS ==
OFFICIAL DOOM WIKI
https://doomwiki.org/

WHERE TO FIND WADS
Vanilla/Boom: https://doomworld.com/forum/4-wads-mods/
ZDoom: https://forum.zdoom.org/viewforum.php?f=19
/idgames: https://doomworld.com/idgames/

MODDING RESOURCES
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewforum.php?f=37
https://realm667.com/

== /VR/DOOM COMMUNITY ==
THREAD ARCHIVES
https://desuarchive.org/vr/search/text/"doom thread"/type/op/

OUR WADS/MODS
https://rentry.org/vrdepot

MAKING NEW THREADS PROPERLY
https://pastebin.com/8mDnrsrB

IMAGE/WAD DATABASE
https://vrdoom.booru.org/
https://clovr.xyz/wadsup/

MULTIPLAYER SERVERS
US West: https://clovr.xyz/
CA/US Midwest: https://macgu.fun/

=== CURRENT PROJECTS ===
Duke It Out in /vr/
Game : DN3D | Deadline : Jan 1st 2026
Tile/Con pack: https://files.catbox.moe/qns3f9.zip
Rules: https://desuarchive.org/vr/post/11835634

=== CURRENT RELEASES ===
/Vertex Relocation/
IWAD : Doom 2 | Format : Boom
RC3: https://files.catbox.moe/aoucg0.7z

=== NEWS ===

[8-18] Outlaws remaster announced, coming out November 20th
https://store.steampowered.com/app/3366780/Outlaws__Handful_of_Missions_Remaster/

[8-18] RMG City, an MBF21 single map
https://doomer.boards.net/thread/4105

[8-17] Eventide, an episode for Doom II
https://doomer.boards.net/thread/4104

[8-17] Source code for PowerSlave Saturn is open free
https://github.com/Lobotomy-Software/SlaveDriver-Engine

[8-16] Chocolate Doom v3.1.1 released
https://github.com/chocolate-doom/chocolate-doom/releases/latest

[8-15] We Have Doom at Home came out
https://doomworld.com/forum/topic/154723

[8-14] Quake 2+2 Jam announced for Quake IV 20th anniversary
https://desuarchive.org/vr/post/11948657

[8-12] XMAPEDIT has been updated
https://github.com/NoOneBlood/xmapedit/releases/latest

[8-11] Odamex v11.1.0 released
https://github.com/odamex/odamex/releases/latest

[8-10] Absurdism, a monster mod by Anon
https://doomworld.com/forum/topic/154653

[8-10] Quake 2: Call of the Void comes out 9/12/25
https://x.com/Q2CallOfTheVoid/status/1954616632677949605

[8-1O] Favillesco grows as full trilogy
https://doomworld.com/forum/topic/154622

[8-09] CPD 2 by Cheesewheel
https://doomworld.com/forum/topic/154633

[8-07] Heretic + Hexen remaster is out
https://store.steampowered.com/app/3286930

[8-06] Nugget Doom v4.4.0 released
https://github.com/MrAlaux/Nugget-Doom/releases/latest

[8-03] Urban Warfare, an MBF21 weapon mod
https://doomworld.com/forum/topic/154541

=== PREVIOUS ===
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-vrTgPGmlLwdO5VHHCJMxmRD05E6XlNmqHIN8aykRG0
TO SUBMIT NEWS, REPLY TO THIS POST (ideally with the [MM-DD] date bracket)

>> CLASSIC DOOM CHALLENGE <<

Record an UV Max demo (-cl 9) of Crumpets MAP02 "Flutter" by Ribbiks

> Wad download and records
https://dsdarchive.com/wads/crumpets?level=Map+02

> Example demo
UV Max in 4:36 https://files.catbox.moe/bu8ct5.lmp

> Why this map
I like how you can do plenty of different routes here.

> Advice
Double-check your catbox upload so it's not an empty file. Include your time in the post so it's easier to see who's in the lead.

> Previous challenge winner
Moonlit District MAP02 in 1:38! >>11960858

>> CLASSIC DOOM CHALLENGE <<

Record an UV Max demo (-cl 9) of Crumpets MAP02 "Flutter" by Ribbiks

> Wad download and records
https://dsdarchive.com/wads/crumpets?level=Map+02

> Example demo
UV Max in 4:14 https://files.catbox.moe/bu8ct5.lmp

> Why this map
I like how you can do plenty of different routes here.

> Advice
Double-check your catbox upload so it's not an empty file. Include your time in the post so it's easier to see who's in the lead.

> Previous challenge winner
Moonlit District MAP02 in 1:38! >>11960858

>[8-17] Eventide, an episode for Doom II
>https://doomer.boards.net/thread/4104
This one seems fun to play so far. Nothing too strange or "puzzles", just maps and music is fun too.

>>11968773
>cannot play non-gzdoom demos

>>11968773
thanks king

>>11968773
4:09 https://files.catbox.moe/bw5j7g.lmp

>>11968764
Should we update duke pic?

>>11968773
>be me
>enjoy crumpets
>have not played the wad entitled "Crumpets"

What causes this?

>>11969208
Not enough crumpets.

>>11969259
Clearly I need to work on my crumpet intake

>>11968739 (OP)
>SO YOU WANT TO PLAY SOME FUCKING DOOM
You used the old link again.
Please use the updated one: https://imgur.com/a/wB0psIa

>>11969335
>https://imgur.com/a/wB0psIa
moo

>>11968764
So far total shit.
And I mean how it looks, the write-ups, the huge amount of wads/TCs that are absent, everything.

>>11969345
That's one of the very first iterations, not sure whether ironic or an idiot

>>11969370
>not sure whether ironic or an idiot
Maybe both, he's certainly not funny

>>11969370
oh gotcha makes sense then. At this point I wouldn't be surprised if this was a new pic cause the last thing that anon who was working on a completely new version uploaded was pretty ugly

do we have an archive of all /doom/'s guides over the years?

>>11969494
With enough persistence you could possibly find most if not all versions of them. I kinda have a mild interest myself.

megaman deathmatch

>>11969569
>player bad
>ultimate marketing release
>none liked sam
>lost retard
>stop xaser
>best fps ass

>>11969587
>best fps ass

>>11969593
nah

>>11968739 (OP)
If that Halloween project will be brought back shouldn't someone bring back the guidelines too?
Also does anyone remember an edit of Peter Steele with his dick out edited to make him look like Caleb holding a dynamite?

If your Doom doesn't look like this you are not playing Doom.

>>11969616
this is great

>>11969639
the scan lines are way too thin

>>11969651
PC monitor does not have that visible scanlines and VGA used double scan mode. Yeah emulating that with 1080p screen is pretty hard etc.

>>11969657
Who?

>>11969659
basically you want 1:1 scanlines but with little to nos space between them

>>11969657
why?

>>11968740
>[8-18] RMG City, an MBF21 single map
>https://doomer.boards.net/thread/4105
does anyone have this map without the suspicious middleman link

>>11969660
Some guy who made a bunch of troll stuff like "Doomguy's Warzone" (ZDoom randomizer featuring poorly made sprites), "30,000 levels" (wad with that many simple square rooms), and "The Worst Level Ever Made" (a 1x1 room).
>>11969672
A mixture of apparent self-promotion and not being notable.

>>11969668
Each pixel has been split from the middle with a scanline. i.e. 3 lines per one square pixel.
this is why crt shaders work the best in 2-4k resolutions which is ironic.
Anyway.

>>11969695
that's the thing, i don't like how it looks

>>11969698
This is a real CRT, not a shader.

>>11969706
and i don't like how it looks

>>11969707
So what.

>>11969659
>PC monitor does not have that visible scanlines
It's funny every time somebody tries to call out a CRT monitor for looking "wrong" because it doesn't look like a CRT TV.

>>11969715
yeah so what

>>11969639
I honestly tried, twice, with guest shader for reshade, trying to make it as subtle as possible, and even though it was kinda okay, I always ended up just disabling it eventually. It just doesn't work, it's a visual noise that doesn't really feels like the part of original image.

>>11969751
yeah it's annoying because the perspective moves and not the visible lines

>Error: File too large.
well fuck you too hiro

>>11969675
https://drive.google.com/file/d/14AsikldOsEYDRj5hvrIWAfKiNam-muDt/edit

>>11969760
That's not bad except for some reason these shaders (crt guest especially) likes to make vertical scanlines instead of horizontal. If you are using crt_guest you can flip them by setting TATE to 1.

>>11969759
Exactly, the whole illusion starts falling apart when you move. Even if it looks neat in static. And that's something 4k or probably even 8k would not fix.
one day I will get a table big enough to put my old CRT on it

>>11969769
thanks lad

>>11969781
i don't miss CRTs much except for the motion

>>11968740
>/Vertex Relocation/
What's with it? Is it ever gonna be released?

>>11969569
What is the maximum word length allowed in the word cloud? What is the minimum number of times the word is posted for it to appear on the word cloud? Can I type
> niggerniggernigger
and it will show up in the next word cloud, on the fringes?

>>11969842
500 words and probably not.

Any thoughts of a terrible map in a good wad?

>>11969840
It's part of a bundle with 94 Protons as recompense for it taking so long. Is this joke too old?

>>11969947
If you're playing a community project like you are, it's really just something you can always expect.

>vertex relocation
more like release postponement, lol

>>11969569
>Duke best fps ass
>anon playing shitty mods

>94 protons
More like 94 it's gone lol

>>11970120
more like 94 pootons haha

>>11969657
>>11969685
>not being notable.
Who cares if it's not notable? Not that I care about the stuff in question, but what would be considered "not being notable" after that? What's the criteria or it's straight to "we want to remove it because we don't like it"?
If it's there already, just let it be unless there's some inaccurate info or something like that.

>>11969657
>>11969685
>A mixture of apparent self-promotion and not being notable.
>Writes down a genderspecial page with hundreds of speedmaps made in a last couple of years instead
>Longer than TimeOfDeath and pcorf ever hoped to be
Rules for thee but not for me

>>11970181
I don't quite get it, myself. Some of the TNT mappers don't have pages because their only contributions were to Evilution, even though it was released as an official product.

Thoughts on the Draugr and Troll?

>>11969685
>A mixture of apparent self-promotion
Annoying for sure, particularly with the quality of his work.

>and not being notable.
I disagree with that, he's made himself notable. In a bad way, sure, but notable nonetheless.

Also, this isn't particularly a real problem for a fanwiki like Doomwiki, which is dedicated to a niche subject. For regular Wikipedia, it's supposed to be a global universal encyclopedia, so naturally, too much stuff which is simply too miscellaneous or unimportant could VERY quickly add up way to much.

You don't exactly have that problem in this case, there's not exactly a daily onslaught of irrelevant non-Doom/non-iD stuff being constantly added to the wiki, and the readerbase and amount of contributors is very moderate.
I can certainly see being annoyed with the guy's intentional low efforts and self-promotion, but if he's been at all notable enough to write about a little, I fail to see the issue.

>>11970224
This is partially why, as TNT Evilution has pretty big historical significance for Doom and Doom modding for multiple reasons. However, a lot of the contributors only ever did Evilution, and then MAYBE one more thing, before moving on, so there isn't even necessarily much to write about for a full page on such a person.

>>11969685
>apparent self-promotion
Sounds like a bad phrasing. It's as if I ever decide to catalogue my own work there, everything will get removed only for the prospect of a few lucky visitors stumbling upon my page. Unless Doomguy 2000 is a budding musician who decided to litter the Doomwiki with Bandcamp links for some reason.

Just finished Blood 1. Very good game, although the cultists make it a little too trial and error sometimes. I only finished the 4 episodes that originally came out with the game. Awesome ambience.

I played one level of each expansion, Post Mortem and Cryptic Passage... and boy I don't think I'm going to play the rest of either. Cryptic Passage has bullshit respawns (I fucking hate respawning enemies) and level 1 was rather long. Post Mortem is just bullshit gotcha after gotcha. There were a few of those in the original episodes, but honestly it's not my cup of tea. Hated them on Doom and hate them here.

Most difficulty level was E3M2: Siege. Since I don't savescum (I only save every level start), I died almost 10 times before finally completing it.

>>11968739 (OP)
Here it is, a quake 2+2 1h map making video development for those interested.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WvoUa9fUwfE

>>11969759
>>11969781
>>11969659
Well that is because you are using grille, PC Monitors used shadowmask with better quality and sharpness, and only Trinitron line of monitors used sony's grille if my memory serves well

>>11970353
Apparently it's frowned on to be maintaining your own page, unless you're somehow significant enough to them for them to look the other way.

>>11970376
School class segregation kind of mentality, look out for the cool kids who command this sandbox. Game company done its business with the game and left it free for everyone as a toy, only that no one managed to grow up since then.

>>11970353
He's really a nothing special kind of guy. His works are largely deliberately bad stuff, as in .wads with shitloads and shitloads of levels which are all a single 64x64 room with an exit switch, which is the kind of thing which will make some people exhale briefly out of their nose out of extremely mild amusement, but not something which people are wont to sit down and play.

I could see the theoretical logic behind not wanting to encourage his behavior, but let's be real, extremely few people are going to have the energy and drive to commit themselves to this kind of... performative dullness, for a lack of better words, I seriously doubt that we're gonna see copycats, because it doesn't garner attention and it's not fun to do, so it's not even a viable avenue for trolling.

>>11970376
I could almost see the logic in that, but it feels almost moot. But maybe I'm being too subjective about it, I discovered that I had a page, and I edited the body of works to add a .wad which I made contributions to. Some people may be less restrained in that regard.

>>11970423
>I discovered that I had a page, and I edited the body of works to add a .wad which I made contributions to. Some people may be less restrained in that regard.
That seems like it should be fine to me, it's just being informative and it's not doing shit like what happened to the old Terraria Wikia where one Youtuber hijacked it and added an embedded youtube video from his channel for every single conceivable page possible.

>>11970375
I REALLY REALLY hope that someone picks alkaline's textures and brew a quake 2 map out of it or uses winter's fury tileset for a kino TAD remake.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrogDdgo9hg

>>11970430
I sure hope they found him and flogged him in the taint for doing that. Goddamn.

>>11970375
>likely going to be Q2R exclusive so I can't play it with KMQ2's Q4 hud
Not a biggie because I'm still looking forward to it.

>>11970506
just ask paril about making the Q2Pro fork hud moddable as KMQ2.
By the way where do i find that hud, that shit is 15 years old by now

>>11970497
Nah, though he ended up crying live on stream from a completely different fuckup of his, the community just collectively moved to operating an entirely different wiki that he had no control over.

>>11970540
>By the way where do i find that hud, that shit is 15 years old by now
I grabbed it from his latest nightly a few years back.

>>11968740
>Absurdism, a monster mod by Anon
>Check it out, assuming its just a simple crossover monster replacer like Samsara on a lower scale.
>Monsters ripped from HDoom.
>Furries with giant asses, which can kill you through clapping their asses alone.
>Several succubi with tits.
>A sentient cloud of marijuana smoke.
>Yume Nikki characters that sneeze cars.
>The head of some random guy.
>The upside down mouth of some guy.
>Several sprites of fanmade Friday Night Funkin characters cycling rapidly.
>A Heretic Morph Ovum reskin that turns enemies into pngs of fanmade FNF characters.
This is the work of a madman.

>>11970595
>Furries with giant asses, which can kill you through clapping their asses alone.
>FurDoom is already being merged with other shit

>>11970423
>He's really a nothing special kind of guy.
Which doesn't really make it alright to brush the guy off to a sidewalk. Page's been around for a decade and everyone seemed fine with it up until very now, the only alternative is straight removal. Anyway, there's no apparent credibility to the story as the latest post on the talk board dates back to 2015; which to note, also shut off the paragraph spillings by the usual (community pillar) member brazenly lecturing on "ego inflation". No page vandalism to speak of either.
https://doomwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Doomguy_2000&action=history
https://doomwiki.org/wiki/Talk:Doomguy_2000

>>11970686
Lol

Finally finished Legacy of Rust. The many railings not actually blocking you is intentional, isn't it? Fell of the bridge at the very of the game with no way up was odd.

>q2pro adventures in Space Jam
One of the top maps isn't behaving well with it so far but this one was fun. Neat vibes.

>>11971123
>them janky ground textured trees
Do Quake 2 mappers just not bother with custom textures since they're not compiled into the BSP like Quake 1?

>>11968739 (OP)
Isn't HUH the word?

>>11970375
>Well that is because you are using grille
both are annoying

>>11969335
>updated
>isn't actually updated in the slightest
Please, stop posting your retarded link if there are no SIGNIFICANT differences present. Just changing V8 to V9 doesn't count.

>>11970686
dropbottle

>>11970297
Black Plague, vanilla balance
>Draug
Generic projectile thrower with unusually low HP. They are weaker than fire gargoyles and during infighting lose to practically anything. Useless enemy, I barely notice their existence.
>Troll
Unlike the Draugr, the Troll is a good enemy. Not very tanky, makes you move, neither hard nor easy to dodge. Finally we have a dangerous melee foe in Heretic, I never regret using a Morph Ovum on a troll.

>>11968739 (OP)
Explain the reason for the hostility between zdoom, doomworld and doomer boards? I feel that these guys hate each other.

>>11971298
Zdoom's Rachael and Esselfortium have a longstanding beef with one another. Graf has obstructed development of boom- and vanilla-based mods and source ports for years, which have become doomworld's forte.

Doomer boards was cancelled for wrongthink from the beginning (post-2016), and yet refuses to go away, so DW are in a constant state of seethe over it.

Put differently, if zdoom is nazi Germany and DW is Soviet Russia, DB is Trump's America. It's only natural for them to hate each other, and for a normal person not to care who wins, because they're all awful

>>11971358
Just from you describing it, all this sounds like complete, utter faggotry.

>>11971358
what country are we

>>11971390
on good days: Finland.

>>11971298
>please talk about old drama between communities which aren't here
>please please please

>>11971395
We need more wads that embrace the Finnish life experience, like Winter's Fury.

>>11971402
any map can be a finnish map

just pick up a berserk pack (pervtin)

>>11971402
The Quake Finns put out a lot of high-quality stuff, I'm sure there are some hitters waiting to be unleashed in Doom as well.

>>11965027
(all but the BFG)
Lemme guess this one, the green plasmaball projectile and the invisible post-blast tracers have their properties swapped - so that now the prefire charge unleashes a hitscan explosion which now shoots-out a wave of smaller plasmaballs towards your general initial shooting coordinates' arena instead of the old hitscan tracers?
Yes I know that I posted such an idea recently, just checking if somebody bothered actualy doing something with it.

>>11970686
>1 guy 1 screwdriver remade in Doom2 WHEN?!?

How hard would it be to make a custom hexen hub? Would it have to be played in jizzydoom or can it be for more classic sourceports? Custom scripts and hub order/story text if possible

>>11971460
Hexen engine invented MAPINFO which should let you string them together. I never really tried.

>>11971460
Chocolate Hexen exists, the tools are pretty much all there in one form or another to do it for vanilla.

>>11971460
You can make a hub with any reasonable number of levels, add any number of secret levels, arrange them in any order you want.
Scripts, too, are not hard-coded so you can add on a map any scripted actions you want.
Story texts can be edited but they are shown only at the end of a hub.
All of these things can be done in vanilla.

>>11971460
Assembling the stuff isn't too much of an issue, and it's rather well documented, so even though I never personally cared much for Hexen, I encourage you to try to make the Hexen hub you're envisioning.

>>11971423
this looks very nice

Congratulations to GZDoom for finally supporting one of the most fundamental keyboard shortcuts after well over a decade in development.

https://github.com/ZDoom/gzdoom/commit/daff54fe1c8f0bc0b64bf5f18f7ec23c269fc680

>>11971561
It has done for a fucking long time, I just checked on 2.1.1 and it works.

>>11971561
>https://desuarchive.org/_/search/tripcode/%21%21AQCzS4Q%2BNjl/
faggot

>11971561
YWNBAW you filthy groomer

>>11970423
>I could see the theoretical logic behind not wanting to encourage his behavior

terry wads haven't been a thing for years, it's time to get over the trauma of being raped by jpeg santa claus
if anything Aquarius199 did more to encourage making trollmaps than Doomguy2000

>trailblazer + brutal doom monsters + hell revealed 2
Had an absolute blast turning everything into red mist with TB's weapons, cleared the whole mapset in one day
Can someone please tell me the songs that play when you fire the conqueror or the minigun? I'm almost sure they're from AC/DC

>>11971574
I don't believe this slur has the effect you think it does, not in the general where abrupt homoposting is prominent and even encouraged.

>>11971572
*re-reads the commit*
Huh, it did work only on Windows before. Haven't touched that in ages so I had no idea lmao

>>11971605
>Can someone please tell me the songs that play when you fire the conqueror or the minigun? I'm almost sure they're from AC/DC
Airborne - It ain't over till it's over

>>11971574
Of course it's some bored anon falling flat at baiting, that disgusting asshat has a completely different tripcode and is way too obsessive to change it.

>>11971264
Yes there are.
1. in the doom pic a whole row of games is added
2. in the link Thief infographics are now sequentially together

>>11971390
chaz

>Thief infographics are now sequentially together
Thiefbros, we are feasting tonight. Hammers won't get us!

>>11971819
Come back 'ere taffer!

>>11970595
Aeons of Death 2: Furfag Boogaloo

>>11971596
It's not the real Marisa, just some one looking for attention.

I miss the jannies.

>>11972013
t. ranny

You can spice up your singleplayer game while your friends are playing different games with Archipelago!

What is Archipelago?
>Archipelago is a cross-game modification system which randomizes different games, then uses the result to build a single unified multi-player game. Items from one game may be present in another, and you will need your fellow players to find items you need in their games to help you complete your own.
https://archipelago.gg/
https://archipelago.gg/faq/en/

Currently it has support for 76 games, for this thread there's DOOM I, DOOM II and HERETIC.
https://archipelago.gg/games

>How to setup?
All three use a modified Crispy Doom named Archipelago Doom (APDoom). There's server chat you can use and !hint command to know where your next progression item (map unlock or key).

https://archipelago.gg/tutorial/DOOM%201993/setup_en
https://archipelago.gg/tutorial/DOOM%20II/setup_en
https://archipelago.gg/tutorial/Heretic/setup_en

Have fun!

>>11972039
Are you lost, underage /v/ermin?

>>11972053
The only thing that bothers me about stuff like this and a lot of randomizers that get used with speedrunning is how reliant they are on a website to either function or as part of the setup process.

Especially with how companies like Nintendo got over shit, it makes it a concern it'll just get disappeared eventually.

>>11971292
Low T

>>11972064
nta, but "/vr/min" has a neat ring to it.

>>11972053
I've always thought Archipelago was "neat," but it feels like it exists to enable a very VERY narrow selection of players. The kind that'd not only be fine setting X hours aside to play at the same time in two different games, but also potentially having to wait for sizeable stretches of time within that period before you can actually progress through more of the game (I know there's a progression_balancing setting, but even the FAQ can't guarantee it works)

>>11971605
I'm personally a really huge fan of redneck gibberish for those guns.

>>11972053
Hmm... interesting.

>>11972160
Some of them have ways to minimize that or deal with it but it doesn't seem like a universal thing, there was a speedrun event the other month where with I think it was seven games going, one dude ended up sitting there for 30 mins waiting for others to find stuff he needed to get anywhere.

Was boltgun always free?

>>11968773
Max in 2:00 (litterbox because normal catbox isn't working right now)
https://litter.catbox.moe/iqczgxlqxe0q83r1.lmp

I wanted to get under 2 minutes, but these strats are a bit random.

>>11968740
[8-23] Eternity Engine v4.05.03 Citadel update
https://github.com/team-eternity/eternity/releases/latest

>>11972395
Cool! Now can we get a new WAD in the vein of Heartland for this port?

>>11972437
>BLOW IT OUT YOUR ASS

>>11971402
>>11971419
Notable wads made by finns:
Dystopia 3 (Iikka Keränen)
Suspended in Dusk (Esa Repo)
The Hell Factory, Painful Evil, Ismo's Quest (Tomi Rajala)
ColdWire (MFG38 aka Santtu Pesonen)
Remnant and Ar Luminae (Aurelius aka Henry Koivula)
Lost Civilization (Jaska aka Jaakko Impola)
Jade Earth (Jodwin aka Joonas Äijälä)
Room (TwinBeast)
Half of Simulacrum (muumi)
The Long Trek Back Home and Serpent's Wake (hervoheebo)

>>11972450
Why is he so shiny? Is he covered a layer of lube or something?

>>11972487
baby oil

>>11972053
Someone made a mod that lets it work on GZDooM as well via clever log file usage.
Ive been enjoying playing Deathstrider and PB with it quite a bit, would definitely recommend people give it a try, even if it is kinda buggy and takes a bit of setup.

>>11972483
>The Long Trek Back Home
Explains why it was a depressing slog where half the time you couldn't be sure what you just did connected to anything else in the map.

>>11968773
UV-Fast 3:42 https://litter.catbox.moe/h56cnq.lmp

>>11972598
Hey, nothing beats depressiveness of Room. Objective of the each map is to find a single bullet for your pistol, so that you can blow your brains out, and punch your own face with your fists while doing that.

>>11971358
>Graf has obstructed development of boom- and vanilla-based mods and source ports for years
How so? Did he hack into their repositories and scramble everything?

>>11971358
You make Doomer Boards sound like intellectual and great place. But what you mean by wrongthink cancellations are more like underage bans.

Sure Impie, Tormentor, kraf, shadowman and BigMemka got banned for stupid reasons that could be labelled as wrongthink, but they never became Doomer Boards members. RMG might be an exception. Absolutely talented mapper, good guy, that got banned for advertising his youtube channel or something. That's fucking stupid reason to ban him, considering dw is basically the go-to place for all corpos abd corpo-cocksuckers to advertise their stuff.

So better comparisons for these place would be:
Dw = capitalist elitist 1984 hell hole
Db = contrarian underage retard hell hole
/vr/ = the actual sane and nice place in Doom communities
DP = good nice place too, if you understand russian

You guys got some kind of idiot's proof showcase of how to use high-res sprites in Slade's pk3 folders? cuz i keep putting em in the hires folder but somehow they get ignored by the decorate thing, it doesn't do that with the sprites folder but then i end up with some big hideous thing in the middle of the screen instead of a regularly sized hideous thing.

Peace.

>>11971358
Wow, this fanbase sounds insufferable.

>>11968739 (OP)
Is it just me or does anyone else never plays two doom levels in a row? I just feel I need to take a break after clearing a map

>>11972053
I've been playing this a lot for the past month or so.
I don't have friends so I've been randomizing multiple games together, and switch between games whenever I'm stuck or when I feel like it.
>>11972082
>how reliant they are on a website to either function or as part of the setup process
You can run a server locally

>>11972487
>"... and among the big names who attended the lavish parties hosted by Sean "Diddy" Combs - Jay-Z, Usher, and Paris Hilton - 1996's "king", Duke Nukem, who saved earth's female population from multiple alien invasions, was included."
>"As shown by this picture >>11972496, him imitating a Chippendale with close partners "Doomguy" Blazkowicz and Cyrus "Cy" Birdemann."
>"The picture went viral after its sudden resurgence on 4chan and X-slash-Twitter during Diddy's ongoing trial on 4chan, with several users musing that Nukem's shiny skin implied it was one of these parties' 'freak-offs', tied to the seizure of thousands of bottles of baby oil from Diddy's properties."
>"Duke Nukem has declined to comment on the trial or the picture."

I'M LATE TO THIS, BUT IT'S STILL SCREENSHOT SATURDAY!! WHAT THE FUCK HAVE YOU BEEN WORKING ON? Maps, mods, sprites? Now's a good time to post that shit!

>>11972843
i wasn't satisfied with any of the crosshair packs i downloaded, so i designed myself my own crosshair

other crosshairs were too fat when i tried to scale them up

>>11972843
crane

>>11972867
a better picture, the insides of it turned out quite comfy

>>11972867
>>11972869
here is irl thing I based it on

>>11972721
I tried nothing and i'm already out of ideas, i'm truly the biggest cretin on this 'board.

>>11972703
>RMG might be an exception. Absolutely talented mapper, good guy, that got banned for advertising his youtube channel or something.
Not to um actually you, but I think RMG got banned from Doomworld because he was in a project called Gorehounds of Doom that had its leadership changed mid-development. Can't recall who was there before, but Snaxalotl (who's trans) took it up and said all the maps had to be Boom or MBF21 - again, don't remember, but RMG got pissed about it because he had submitted like 3 or 4 maps and they'd need to be reworked.
Snax basically started acting like a comple cunt to Rasta (maybe because he's Russian), Rasta blew a fuse after a few times of taking shit and raged. He got the boot after linking news of trans people killing themselves or something to that effect.
Either way, Snax got scolded for shit leadership but Rasta got banned even though he was right in telling a bitch to fuck off. Shitty fucking site, shitty fucking culture.

Could be wrong, though. Long time.

>>11968739 (OP)
>Play a Joe-Ilya map called Shithole with over 400 enemies.
>It's actually a solid map, if a bit too long.
Has he finally ascended to being a good mapper?

>>11972974
>>11972703
Retro FPS?

>>11969947
map12 in Zeppelin Armada. It's an ugly '95-looking map that's not even close to the standard set by the previous levels.

>>11970595
It continues.
>find a new item called the "Viner Morph" or whatever the fuck it was called.
>Transform into a flying green hand that shoots out, of all things, drawn smut, probably of more FNF OCs idk at this fucking point.
>All of it is uncensored.
>The alt fire shoots a gif of a twerking woman, naked of fucking course, that deals AOE with the clap sounds.
I want off this wild ride.

>>11972974
I was talking about his more recent ban month or a few ago. He was able to return dw for few years, but was banned again.

>>11972979
His Ad Mortem map was quite gud.

>>11972826
Never meet your heroes...

>>11972867
Looking going, not sure how you managed to wrangle that editor though.
Also your pic crit me for huge nostalgia straight from 1994

>>11972979
I'd say it's more that he still aims more towards quantity than quality, but on occasion he manages to put together a map which is actually quite good.

>>11973247
Oh fuck, I remember those! Good comparison.

>>11971358
>Graf has obstructed development of boom- and vanilla-based mods and source ports for years
What the fuck do you even mean by that? That's complete nonsense, PrBoom+ languished because its dev stopped working on it for years, and Graf was a driving force behind UMAPINFO, which is part of why we've got MBF21's development.

>>11972483
I forgot Espi was Finnish. Hell of a mapper.

>>11972826
Lo Wang didn't kill himself

>>11972843
I haven't done anything productive, but I've been amusing myself with making a custom bestiary description in unhelpful doom manual style.

>>11971358
>Graf has obstructed development of boom- and vanilla-based mods and source ports for years
Which ports?
You could certainly say a lot of things about Graf, but I remember he bent over backwards implementing many compatibility settings, and hand-made exceptions for certain wads like BTSX that still didn't run correctly under newer GZDoom.
Maybe it's not a perfect system, but that doesn't really strike me as obstructive.

>>11973702
He was also the first guy to put ENDOOM screens back into sourceports because he missed them from DOS Doom.

>>11973606
I love this.
Is this all the enemies?

After marathoning both Eviternities, other wads feel quaint and tiny by comparison. I've really been spoiled by gigantic maps with (sometimes) thousands of enemies.

>>11973936
try nova4, d2ico
i'm also on large maps binge rn

>>11973918
Except for the bosses, should be.

>>11974038
Nice, thanks anon

>>11973936
Every map with over 100 enemies feels like a fucking chore

>>11974091
If I was recording demos, I would absolutely agree. I'm fine with saving after every major fight though. And some of those arenas were actually really satisfying now that I've conquered them all.

>>11974094
Yeah without saving it's not even an option to play those. I wonder if there are any good wads where levels are relatively short that I could try to finish without saves cause I do think it's a better experience with much more fear over unexpected encounters

>>11974103
I'm having fun with Machete as per snoopdogganon recommendation!
I'm playing most levels with saves but all of them are single-segment-worthy

man Blood is more difficult than I remember

>>11972160
I believe you can set up a single person Archipelago, where you play multiple games yourself? Sort of like those Zelda/Metroid randomizers but you pick the games.

>>11974169
Similar experience playing it when younger on the easiest. Enemy count, damage taken, enemy accuracy, aggressiveness, all of that is scaled based on the skill setting.

>>11974091
Skill issue.

>>11969616
>even has the cheeto-encrusted fingers

>>11972843
Been working on replacing the weapons that were just "Marathon gun but drawn in a different style." The goal was to make a pistol that doesn't feel like it's slowing the game down if you decide to shoot something with it.

>>11974169
The most difficult episodes to me where 1 and 3, specially the first 2 levels of episode 3. I'm pretty good at those old shooters, but I died more than 10 times in E3M2: Siege (I only save at the start of stages).

>>11974281
The flaming hot kind, seemingly.

>>11974297
looks neat, is there a name for this art style? Reminds me of Post Void

>>11974347
Don't really think that there's a broader term for it. Just been calling it "sketchy" because it's funny to have all the file names be things like "sketchyshapes" and "sketchyphysics." Didn't really play enough of Post Void to say that it had a big impact on the style, but Afraid of Monster's introduction was an initial inspiration for the terminal art.

why do some WAD authors think that people want levels that are difficult to navigate and have some dumb puzzles just to progress?
I spent like 15 minutes just running around the first level in startdate 20x7 just to find both keycards. what's the purpose of it? is this why people play doom? to solve "which button do I press next" puzzles?

keep this shit to secrets, not the main gameplay

why do some players think that the WAD authors give a shit what his dumb ass thinks?

Welcome to Ribbiks wads, motherfucker. Enjoy your stay

>>11974616
How the fuck does somebody even pick up one of his wads without having caught onto the reputation he has with his maps?

>>11974297
Looks cool. I don't know how far you are on level design, but consider that you could do some fun artistic flair there as well, outside of textures.

Every time I play modded DOOM it makes me appreciate vanilla more than before. Mods are fun but there's nothing like OG gameplay.

>>11974604
>which button do I press next" puzzles?
I'm my experience people who complain about this aren't paying attention to the level at all. I've seen people throw switches and then spin around expecting an ambush on every switch so that they can't see the obvious cues of a door opening, or where they should even investigate a change in the level. They whip into a room, throw switch, spin around like a lunatic and sprint out of the nearest door complaining that the have no idea where to go - having never stopped to look.

Not that there aren't obtuse levels, I haven't played star date, just sharing my experience watching twitch streams etc.

>>11974662
Bingo. Eternal Doom is harder than any nightmare Sunlust for these people even though 90% of it is just don't breath with your mouth level of puzzles.

>>11974627
>open cacowards
>ribbiks ribbiks ribbiks ribbiks
Not that hard to be honest.

>>11974662
I used to try to appease those types till I realized I was making shit worse for everybody else and still couldn't dumb shit down to a level where they wouldn't complain.

Fuckers are usually passably competent at combat but have fuck all awareness of anything that doesn't immediately present another encounter.

>>11974662
Twitch streamers never pay attention to anything because they are looking at chat and that transcends streaming doom, they are all like that with any kind of game.
For the general audience I think most don't mind switches and card hunting as long as everything is marked well.

>>11974662
>>11974694
I remember launching half life 2 for my buddy from school times once, he just walked around the train station ALWAYS looking in the wrong direction, missing both important events and all the flair. I don’t mean by that that he was looking around exploring, no, he was either looking at the floor, at closed doors, walking backwards - he got stuck in that encounter with barney because he kept trying to go through the normal citizen route and when he got to nova prospect gate he didn’t notice barney and just wandered for 20 seconds looking at floor and other fences - shit was frustrating to watch
Whenever someone complains about my levels being confusing I remember some people just have no awareness at all

>>11974720
Reminds me of the commentary track in HL2 Ep2 where they mention one playtester managing to walk in a loop for half an hour, prompting them to change that part of the caves.

>>11974720
Fuck, that reminds me of the time my friend played the original RE2, he somehow got to the police station and kept running into this wall pillar, spamming use while complaining that the door wouldn't open, when it obviously wasn't a fucking door.

I think to some people, the environment in a game is just a container for things to happen, so you don't need to pay attention to it.

>>11974720
Maybe he was just impressed by the cutting edge graphics

Well, let's examine this thing and see what it's made of
>>11974662
>I haven't played star date
To be fair, Ribbiks stuff can be hardcore doom puzzle stuff, and I also had to find this out the hard way.
>>11974668
>Eternal Doom is harder than any nightmare
kek

>>11974604
Found the modern audience.

>>11974649
The first 7 level chapter is actually released on the steam workshop for Marathon Infinity (or Simplici7y if you don't care for steam). The footage there is just on the test map for messing about with things.

>>11971420
Ummm...No, what I meant was that I will make a bfg-type for all of the classes of my mod to use (but I will take that idea of yours XP).

But anyways, Here's what I was talking about of using B.R.P.D's bfg replacement for the chainsaw
https://files.catbox.moe/122h98.mp4

Of course I will need to nerf the altfire and add sound, but for now, here it is :)

>>11974297
Nice artstyle anon, it reminds me of foreverhood

>>11974768
as a purple fan i have to play this.

>>11971146
I wouldn't know. Maybe the author didn't know either and used the jam to wet their feet, or they made do in the time allowed since these are also "speed jams". The level has a custom music track at least.

its SNS time! This time its the third episode of Jamal Jones series

search for "macgu.fun" in doomseeker , also zandronum 3.2.1 is needed

>>11971423
Wad name pls

>>11975160
Pina Colada 2 MAP11

>>11974902
I didnt give an update. I got lost lol but I knew what I was in for. Not all of his stuff is normie-friendly

>>11975298
I hate these things. Fat like a commander, fast as fuck and jumps around everywhere. Hard to hit with a rocked and when you do you usually kill yourself with splash damage. And to top it off they have a shrinker attack and immunity, if one gets you it's like a humiliation ritual, might as well reload a save because they will crush you when you grow back. Sentry Drones aren't as bad as these guys

>>11975058
We did it we beat the Jamal Jones Trilogy GGS!, and have a good one.

>>11975427
ggs

>>11975427
>>11975432
ggs!

>>11975432
Nicely captured

Is there anything more depressing with modding than looking over your old work, even just in terms of ideas and considerations, and feeling like you lost as much as you gained over its growth? It might be something like scope or limitations, but it almost feels surreal to even reread stuff like introductions?
I don't mean this so much like its necessarily a bad thing, just kinda makes you reflect on how different projects can get as they evolve, and how sometimes you might have had ideas better than your abilities.

>playing Outlaws through DREAMM
Goddamn, have I been sleeping on this one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9te8rw7pIes

I want to get into modding, are there any guides for doing it with Build games specifically?

>>11975824
There is a mapping guide on the eduke32 wiki but it's a big wall of text.

>>11974662
>>11974720

People have no spatial awarness irl and you expect them to have it in video games.
I hate shopping because people move into one direction while looking in another and I have to constantly watch out for dumbfucks that daydream about cheap food.
Back when I worked retail I had customers go BETWEEN the massive pallet of merch I was moving and the fucking wall... when I was intentionally moving against the wall to clear the rest 3/4 of the aisle for them
Idk if that or me slightly blocking the end of an aisle only to have people push through instead of just switching the aisle since I was at the fucking end of it pissed me off more

>>11974902
>implying you can even purple

>>11975615

It is great fun, I don't understand the hate at all.

>>11975348
>>11975895
yeah i think i heard a guy say it was harder than Sunlust? dunno if he was trolling

>>11975615
Boxart aside, I just really do not care for the art. I probably picked it up off the store shelf, looked at the screenshots on the back, and set it back down.

>>11971630
Thank you plenty, I have been looking for it for a while along with the other song

>mappack is pretty chill overall
>suddenly one place that is a total nutbuster, like one of the more absurd stretches of chillax
>goes back to being chill afterwards
?

Heretic's e4m7 is really cool.

ahh another cacoward winning megawad, another 32 maps of hellknight and revenant spam
doom megawads are getting longer with more filler and doomworld loves it

>>11976306
>doom megawads are getting longer
based

>11976306
The future is now, old man.

>>11976306
Kind of the limit of the native Doom 2 bestiary. I'd welcome more wads with custom monsters, though obviously that's a higher hurdle for mod makers.

>>11976306
Good Kuro. Also, sounds based, what's the .wad?

>>11976306
God invented the save button for a reason

>>11976370
What reason is that?

>>11976430
He's a scrub

>>11976431
Is it really that hard for this thread to not go 2 days without a "save" argument?

>>11976437
No, considering it doesn't come up constantly.

>>11968739 (OP)
can i save servers to play again in zandrodum?/doomseeker

>>11971819
Uh oh Benny is on first place

>>11975824
You can download this
https://www.retromags.com/files/file/7069-official-duke-nukem-3d-level-design-handbook-the/
You need to download comic book reading app to read it
It's an old book made in the 90's so some of the hotkeys are wrong compared to mapster32 but I only found one so far, the panning/scaling texture hotkey is different (the hotkeys are listed in the editor anyway). Most of the text of the book covers all the special effects, so for now just read up to how to create sectors, and texture stuff, and place sprites, which is pretty intuitive desu, aside from remembering not to move with WASD.
There's also this guide
https://infosuite.duke4.net/
I think when you download eduke32 it comes with tutorial.map which shows off every possible special effect

>>11976437
At least it's not pistol starting or the other incredibly stupid thing.

>>11976449
In doomseeker, right click and pin.

Nightdive? More like dumpsterdive

>>11976453
It's ok he'll drunkenly smash into the next corner.

>>11968740
[08/24] Cock has been released
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/Ports/a-c/cock

>>11976632
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5EYe46H1FU

>>11974656
underrated post

>>11968739 (OP)
Episodes 3 and 4 of Duke were kinda boring, does ep.5 get better?

>>11975824
>>11976459
Modding old games sucks so much. I want to get into Half-Life modding but the tutorials are written by literal troons and there's barely any tutorials on more complex topics like brushwork props. I've seen some beautiful maps and I can't do them because I genuinely have no clue where to start
Also HL1 textures have retarded naming schemes, finding textures is a chore

>>11976632
>Single Player : Designed for
>Cooperative 2-4 Player : No
:(

>>11975824
Modding or mapping? I can help with build mapping as I learned it pretty well over this year. That train pic from screenshots saturday is my work

>>11976695
It's pretty good IMO but it's very different to classic episodes

>>11976632
What the fuck is your problem Anon? It's full of cocks!

>>11976884
>>11976632

>>11971561
Wake me up when they fix MBF21 map stuff

>>11976449
It'd be funny if an anon set up deathmatch of Eric Harris' wads.
http://www.acolumbinesite.com/eric/doom.html

>>11976996
What's currently broken?

>>11977004
Nothing that I'm aware of.

>>11977004
The two actor blocking flags are ignored. Didn't come across it in D2ICO but certainly did in D2IRO where half the blocking lines use the MBF21 ones. Speaking of D2IRO, MAP11 in that one doesn't work properly either with half the monsters not teleporting in and the exit not opening, only in GZDoom.

>>11977065
There's a setting in compatibility that needs to be turned on.

>>11977072
Jesus fucking Christ I had the Boom comp preset active.

>4mb filesize
>2 minute file length

In case it's illegible, Arachnotron is saying:
"Mancubus? Mancubus!"
"We have to get ready for Dead Simple!"

>>11972843
Late also, blocking out my deus ex sneaking map.
In Doom editing I did opposite by making room after room with all details - here in this god forsaken editor simple shapes and rooms take ages and accomodating details to what you blocked out is thousand times easier than having to painstakingly redo everything if you go the other way around and want to change something

I played a Doom mod once that had text terminals similar to Marathon, but I can't find anything online using those search terms.
Does anyone know a project like that? It had a story and everything. I think it was G/ZDoom based

kino.... pvre kino........

>>11977337
Supplice? Marathon inspired but the writing is terrible in comparison, too quickly and gay

>>11977403
No it wasn't on steam
This is one called HYDRA and it might be it? Hallways seem familiar but not 100% sure

>>11977337
Daedalus: Alien Defense?

>>11972948
nvm i just found out that you need to have the low res sprites as well to work out with the scaling, that seems rather arbitrary and not intuitive at all, i believe it even works if you use single color squares of the desired size.

Still don't know how 2 muzzle flash tho, or adding reload animations either.

>>11968739 (OP)
should include the UT2004 discord, active tournies/pugs going on
https://discord.gg/zXfw8MAKWV

>>11977538
Try adding a flash state and making a muzzleflash sprite. The muzzleflash should just overlay itself on the gun.
Reloading is trickier, look at Realm667 for examples.

Do i need to prerender the flash as well for it to look convincing, or do i just open gimp, doodle some red/orange/yellow coloured irregular shapes and call it a day here.

>>11968739 (OP)
Oh boy this bring me back. Playing Doom right when it came out on my shitty computer with my little niece. Used to finger that bitch to death, to this day never got a stronger rush than eating her fresh pussy and ass in the attic when the parents were asleep.
Still gets me hard just thinking about. Can't believe she got kidnapped. We never learned what exactly happened, just that somebody was demanding $150 to return her safely and our parents assumed it's some prank and that she'll be back in a day or two but we never saw her again. I still remember out last conversation. She said that she will prove to me girls are better than boys at videogames by beating Doom II on Ultra violent difficulty setting. I laughed so hard I didn't even bother to tell her it's a joke difficulty that was added to the game as a joke, completely impossible by design.

>>11977626
It would look cooler with proper lighting from the flash.

>>11976359
Simulacrum has tons of hell knight, caco and revenant floods
so does doom 2 in city only
it's hard to find a new doom wad that doesn't spam revenants

>>11976632
I'm choking in this tonight

>>11977673
So, uh, what's your favourite level? mine's Hollywood Holocaust.
>>11977692
I guess that means that the flash is built directly into the regular shooting sprite, right now i can't actually make the muzzle flash material emit light back into the shotgun, the documentation for POVRAY isn't very good for what it is, especially for its Blender plugin which is all but deprecated, maybe i should just put a high intensity coloured light besides it.


This guy always shows besides my bed when i "wake up" in the middle of the night, of course i'm not actually waking up since i can't move or do anything, he's very nice and he's always looking at me so i can feel safe and go back to sleep as usual.
I want to make him an NPC ally or somethin.

>>11977673
This will never be funny no matter how many times you rewrite and repost it.

>>11977554
UT2k4 isn't retro
you're a tripfaggot

ai generated shitter (full)

>>11978135
>This board is for the discussion of classic, or "retro" games, including consoles, computer games, arcade games (including pinball) and any other forms of video games. Retro gaming means platforms launched in 2001 and earlier, and official game titles for those platforms released no later than December 2007
Guess what year Unreal Tournament 2004 came out in.

>>11978135
>>11978150
this is like the discussion of what counts as a retro car. the local car nerds are upset that the Volvo 240 is now a retro car by the rules they used to go by

>>11969947
>Any thoughts of a terrible map in a good wad?
I replayed Herian 1 & 2 recently which are generally regarded as OK to straight up bad, despite Herian 2 being a 10 years of Doomworld WAD. I have lots of thoughts, about multiple maps, with my main takeaway being, "Herian 1 and 2 could be a really great early Zdoom WAD, if only it was 1 32 level WAD instead of 2, because the maps are either great or some of the worst maps you'll see in a well known late 90s wad."

Terrible Terrible Maps:
H1Map02: Airborne
H1Map03: Garden
H1Map05: Dungeon
H1Map07: Theatre
H1Map10: Switchroom
H1Map14: Tank
H1Map15: ROTT
Every H1 Map after 25
H2Map01: A Familiar Place
H2Map05: Lava Cave
H2Map07: Strange Place
H2Map08: He Shouldn't Be Here
H2Map11: Mixing Plant
H2Map12: Nightmare in Main Street
H2Map13: Cottage in the Hill
H2Map17: Arena

Cityisle from Herian 1 is the best map in either set, and Ian's magnum opus. It plays like a lost Jim Flynn or Bob Evans map from Eternal Doom. Spider from Herian 1 is also very good, and makes particularly good use of verticality and spiders. Trubble is an edit of Strife's 1st hub, but it's probably the best edit of it ever. Herian 2 though is full of great maps. Search for Supplies, Return to Town, Journey to Herian City, and Herian City are all amazing and could easily be mistaken for Eternal Doom maps. All 4 of those maps use a hub gimmick too, where you're somewhat returning to earlier visited areas from earlier levels, but little things have changed and you can access different areas. Maps 18-25 in Herian 1 use the same gimmick and it works there too. It's kind of depressing because, via his sheer inability to do quality control of his own maps, Ian ensured that most guys playing old Doom wads will skip his 2 classic WADS because there's so much filler and bad ideas mixed in with the levels that are absolute late 90s classics. I don't think any other WAD achieves the Heretic "bad 90s dark fantasy" feel better. The NIN midi OST helps.

>>11977554
Unreal 2004 is retro, but IIRC including Discord links in OPs are against the site rules, I think (if not outright written, then one of those unspoken but typically enforced rules).

Also, if we were to include one retro shooter Discord server link, what's to say others should then not be included? That would add up very quickly, a Quake one, a Blood one, a Duke one, a Half-Life one, a Wolfenstein one, more than a few Doom ones, etc, etc.
It would quickly eat up space in the OP post.

Further, we here at /doom/ do look to be a bit more independent from the overall communities of these games. Not completely detached, there's certainly overlap with users who are part of all these different communities, but /doom/ should primarily be /doom/, we like that this place isn't just a mere extension of places such as Doomworld, that we are in fact our own community.
Having a bunch of Discord links or general forum links and such would work against that I feel, and I think many anons will agree with me.

>>11968739 (OP)
Are there any wads with opl music of Heretic and Hexen? I found only dead links on rapidshare. And emulation in gzdoom sounds different.

https://youtu.be/mmSv7pR_9kI?list=PL_BhbJAAueZRwxSNBsUsIlOWnzsKb5gsQ

>>11978319
Yeah it tends to get to be pretty lame when you've got a list of walled garden things you have to sign up to, to even see what's going on in them, not to mention the circlejerks those things bring.

>>11978329
You mean midi rendered to ogg? You can make one yourself, just extract midis from the iwad, use smth like libadlmidi to convert them, create wad with ogg's.

the minute this finally became available the international shipping situation becomes 10x worse (to the point where I literally can't have it shipped right now) lmao

>>11978658
lmao get owned bugman consoooooomer

>>11978595
Ok tried that myself, can't find bank/emu that can replicate that exact lead from youtube video lead

>>11978767
Ok tried that myself, can't find bank/emu that can replicate that exact lead from youtube video
>>11978329
Is this acceptable for you?
https://cloud.disroot.org/s/AMb7CY4FbXb5YqN (also catbox is kill?)

>>11978658
I'd look for a bootleg. Or maybe look if I could improvise a Doomguy figure by assembling him from leftover and modified Warhammer 40000 parts or something, if you know someone who engages in it.

Oh look, another megawad spamming shotgunners, chaingunners, imps, demons, spectres, lost souls, cacodemons, hell knights, barons, revenants, pain elementals, archviles, cyberdemons, mancubuses, arachnotrons.
It seems to be a growing trend to keep using the same enemies over and over, and people keep eating it up.
smug.png

>>11978917
I spam bossbrains.

>>11978917
>all of the good enemies
So you want only zombiemen and SS troopers?

>>11977337
Cyberrunner has them iirc

>>11978917
trvth nvkem
we need to go back to mid-late 00s zdoom wads with bfg zombies and teleporting cacodemons

>>11978951
He said cacos though, you can't have that.

>>11978319
>but IIRC including Discord links in OPs are against the site rules, I think

I mean, such posts including that one was just a shitty, unwarranted plug nobody asked for. Ridicule at worst, and at best - attract a handful of guys who then proceed to group into a folder at the very bottom of their Discord server list. Pretty sure the regulars here actually playing vidya together likely already have something too

>>11978960
Anon did mention ZDoom though so even with the earlier decorate, you'd still be able to have zombiemen versions of cacos and pain elementals and lost souls and everything.

>>11978965
No, you can't have cacos, lost souls, or pain elementals!

>>11978986
What if I ripped the undead knight from Heretic and made him edgy black and red? And then I made all his axes the red ones like the ghost version, with homing like revenant balls, but also made them bounce off walls. He also has a pain chance of 0.05.

>>11978986
They wouldn't be cacos, they would be flying zombiemen.

>>11979005
>>11979026
Those are fine.

>>11978917
The plural of "mancubus" is mancubi.

>>11979064
Mancubisexual lighting.

> beat UD on fast UV
> start Doom II on fast
> chaingunners rape you even quicker
> skellies run instead of walk fast
> mancubi LITERALLY TURN THE LEVEL INTO A BULLET HELL GENRE (episode 7 is a kek from Hell)
> oh yeah btw pain elementals LITERALLY SPAM SKULLS FASTER THAN YOU CAN KILL THEM LMAO
> heh nuttin personel kidddo

>>11979102
skellies move at the exact same speed

>>11978951
>*cracks open a cold sugar-free Monster*
>Yup, railgun zombies, now that was a good enemy type
>*takes a sip, then burps*
>Then some forgotten brilliant inventor invented stealth monsters
>*puts on Born in the USA on the old radio*
>Suddenly the roster doubled with enemies that only render during their attack frames!
>*gets up to go mow the lawn at 2 AM*
>We were eating good back then, sonny

>>11979115
all movements are sped up during fast

>>11974118
Just finished the wad. It does a good job immitating early scythe levels, but in later third it does its own thing, which is ok but there's just too much rev slaughter. MAP23 was the most scythe-esque and probably the best one.

All maps are solid, can't name a single one I didn't like, so recommended to all scythe fans!

>>11979160
For my next wad i'll do this >>11977365

>>11979148
no, only the pinkies and spectres are faster.

>>11979146
Feel bad for the neighbors

>>11979146
I could tolerate that +STEALTH behavior for a monster actually designed around it, and properly, but then people would do shit like Stealth SSG Zombies.

>>11979148
No. Pinkies/Specters get a propeller in their ass and move and bite at twice the speed, but all other monsters move at the same speed and use the same number of frames and frame durations for attacks.

Fireballs from Imps, Cacos, and Nobles move faster, but otherwise those monsters move the same. Fast will make them attack far more often, usually every other step they take towards you and while you're in their line of sight. They also react faster, going from idle to being woken up in less time (which is subtle, but it's there).
Nightmare makes their reaction time absolutely immediate.

>>11979164
it's a good one

>>11979209
idk who the fuck nobled are but mancubi 100% attack much faster and their fireballs fly much quicker too.

>>11979220
nobles are hell knights and barons

>>11979220
The enemies don't have an attack delay, but their animations and movement speeds are not faster, with the exception of pinkies.

>>11979209
>but then people would do shit like Stealth SSG Zombies.
People have done them already.

>>11979220
Oh yeah, fatballs were also faster. But yeah, like the other guys say, their attacks have the same animations and frames, they just don't 'hesitate' like they use to, so they're faster to resort to shooting, thus they shoot much more often too.

I do like the atmosphere of Temple of the Lizard Men 3 more now that I've gotten a bit further in even if the combat a lot of the time involves me backing up and spamming my assault rifle or auto shotgun. The demon goddess fucking with you more and more as you progress - coupled with the torture chambers.

>>11979263
I know, and they still chap my ass all these years later.

>>11976002
The levels haven't looked as well as something like Redneck Rampage, but have looked nice enough while being a lot more fun. I wasn't interested in it much back then either.

>>11978329
You can download them as .ogg files and play it yourself.
https://speakersoundtracks.is4.site/soundtracks/heretic/
https://speakersoundtracks.is4.site/soundtracks/hexen/

Files from Kevin Schilder himself:
Heretic
https://www.doomworld.com/applications/core/interface/file/attachment.php?id=250133

Heretic MIDI pics
https://www.doomworld.com/applications/core/interface/file/attachment.php?id=250170

Hexen
https://www.doomworld.com/applications/core/interface/file/attachment.php?id=250134

Hexen MIDI pics
https://www.doomworld.com/applications/core/interface/file/attachment.php?id=250221

Grabbed the download links from this thread:
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/138001-heretic-hexen-original-source-mid-files/

>>11979197
Cozy.
Love that kind of bright blue night lighting.

>>11979202
It's almost a shame that no sourceport lets you emulate that one particular vanilla glitch that lets you either double or halve Pinky speed repeatedly.

Anyone else had this problem trying to run Unreal Tournament maps in Unreal? Even with all the fixes and files in place something's still missing.

>>11979698
Getting this going can be such a nightmare, which map are you trying to run and which version of 227?

>>11979705
Project Zephon with 227k. I tried it in UT and love the arctic base aesthetic, but the simpler gameplay leaves something to be desired.

*BRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAP*

>>11979731
imagine the smell

So did anybody figure out how to turn on nightmare level fast on UV?

>>11979739
In GZDoom there's a Nightmare Reflexes gameplay option, don't know about any other ports.

>>11979749
me

>>11979749
>Your first time playing Downtown.webm

>>11979739
This maybe?

>>11979739
Woof has this in custom skill, mb that's what you want?

>>11979749
linedeath

>>11979749
kino

>>11976632
How long is it?

>>11976823
sauce?

>>11979725
It was really fun through Project Gryphon, and on the chance you're trying to play it through that there's some exclusive fixes for it from >>11930594 https://files.catbox.moe/edvobh.zip You might also need UT files for SP but I'm not too sure if it was necessary https://www.moddb.com/mods/botpack227/downloads/ut-files-for-sp
I ran into a similar situation after trying a bunch of mods like Steel Dawn and some others, it kind of bricked my installation to where I couldn't progress in Return to Na Pali so I sadly had to reinstall everything. That and making sure you follow the weird steps in the BotPack readme are unfortunately the last of my recommendations. Zephon was a blast so I wish you the best of luck in getting it working.

>>11978329
Heretic was recorded on AWE32 fren

>>11979075
That Mancubus has some stories...

>>11979075
>>11979892
>"Show me on the doll where the fat man touched you"
CAPTCHA: 4KDYK

>>11979892
Why does he need 6 nipples?

>>11979892
>>11979896
more importantly, is there a womancubus?

>>11979896
Because that's the number of the beast

>>11979996
why is the sun pooping?

>>11979739
Woof and Nugget let you pick a customized difficulty now.

>>11979731
Is that Doom? What is that from?

>>11979996
Not fat enough

>>11980105
Calm down mr Brosnancynical.

> UV fasting Doom II
> barely make it in level 9 with all the fucking pain elementals shitting up skulls like it's skullfest
> literally arrive at level 10 with 0 (zero) ammo of any kind
How fucked am I?

>>11980514
There's a secret shotty at the start.

> manage to kill 220/300 enemies
> get 11/18 secrets
> 10 bullets left and NOTHING else. Next room is a gigaton of enemies
ffs

>>11980514
>>11980518
This. Hump the wall to your right.

Some new Fallout: Bakersfield footage came out
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0Wv6kkloCU

>>11980943
Aesthetically it's incredible, but this gameplay feels really weird and artificial. Also damn I hate the magazine tracker being that thin little bar to the right of the weapon icon. Shit's hard to read.

>>11980514
10 is a rough pistol start for me sometimes too, just get the shotgun hidden by the start and start clearing up the room to your left. It's a bit more defensible than being out in the open if you charge ahead, even though you'll still need to deal with a pain elemental and other hitscanners. There's also a few secret passages that let you flank some rooms, make sure you use those.

>>11980943
>blurred mid-animation sprites
I HATE IT I HATE IT I HATE IT I HATE IT I HATE IT I HATE IT I HATE IT I HATE IT I HATE IT FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

>>11980949
The animations come across like they'd not provide great feedback, especially for stuff like melee.

I'm also dubious of how real it is still, the dude's got a habit of knocking out these things that look like games but nothing ever comes of them.

>>11980514
You'll make it.

>>11980970
>I'm also dubious of how real it is still, the dude's got a habit of knocking out these things that look like games but nothing ever comes of them.
average artistcel
programmer chads put out things that actually work, with beautifully garish programmer art to go along with it

>>11981013
Ken's Labyrinth is the ugliest non-Capstone first person shooter of its time. Criminally bad looking game.

>>11981050
more like criminally based looking game

>>11981013
Nice tits.

>>11981310
Never forget

>>11981050
we can still go danker

>>11980965
I wish people would make proper smear frames instead.

>>11981050
Actually, I take that back, there's SO much worse, like Fortress Of Dr. Radiaki, which I'd argue isn't even properly playable.
My apologies to Ken.

>>11981341
Nerves of Steel sure was an game.

>>11981050
>>11981401
Ken did some pretty good music though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XbSHkB3vF4w

>>11980943
I'm going to be honest, this doesn't look that fun at all. Are they trying to do a weird hybrid between an FPS shooter and original turn based Fallout? Or is there just a lot of fluff and it's a very slow FPS shooter?

>>11980957
>>11980518
>>11980549

> just get the shotgun hidden by the start and start clearing up the room to your left
Pain elemental along with shooters would rape me. What I ended up doing was actually rushing in the big room, clearing it up, then the corridor to the left from it and when I entered it the pain elemental was just there with his ass to me so I could take it out. Tonight I'll get that shotgun and we'll just have to see...

>>11980982
Thank you for depositing your faith in me

>>11981489
to think that I was gonna do this UV-fast run with pistol start lmao.
But that means that I will feel the burden of incompletion until I go through all these games again but with pistol start and no saves.......

Even Golden Cacoward-winning .wads look downright amateurish after playing Eviternity 2.
Eviternity 2 ruined every other .wad ever.

wait is there no fast on nightmare? Just the instant reflexes?

>>11981530
My favorite looking .wad is still Lost Civilization.

>>11981453
We need more innocent FPS made by dorks.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBS-nH26bTE

>>11981447
a screenshot doesn't really do justice to how profoundly horrible it is
this was released in 1995 btw, every enemy uses the same set of sounds and there's one dismal music track on loop for the entire game
all map progression involves walking through solid textures and teleporter mazes
the episode bosses don't even render correctly and are vertically squished
if a worse DOS FPS exists anywhere, i've not seen it

>>11981530
Skimmed through the list of mappers. While some of the names make me cautious, there's only a few of them and on average it promises to be decent. Not much worse than the first one at least.

>>11981541
Nightmare is already Fast, and then some.

>>11981691
Well I was just watching nightmare speedrun and the projectiles seem slower https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8FleRgH2NaQ

>>11979862
Some guy on a HL mod Discord channel. He makes damn good shit but not sure he's ever made a mod

>>11981718
The sinks are just toilets.

>>11981789
Wait, they aren't?

>>11981595
>if a worse DOS FPS exists anywhere, i've not seen it
Yeah even Quiver doesn't come off nearly as bad as that shit was to play.

>>11981050
Well it was made from scratch by a kid, so I feel like it should get a pass.
It's kinda fun to see the level design get more interesting as it goes. It's less focused than wolf3d but might be a better game if it had a better setting and art.

>>11981789
Anything is a toilet if you're drunk enough.

been through a bit of a Doom fatigue lately
any wad recommendations?

>>11982126
heretic.wad

>>11982126
If you have Doom fatigue, I'd recommend playing Duke Nukem 3D, Quake or Quake 2. Also Doom 3 Phobos has quite nice campaign.

>>11982126
Don't play Doom for a little while, honestly. Try one of the Build games if you haven't.

>>11982126
Another game, if possible another genre.

>>11981789
IT'S ALL PIPES

>rip and tear is now associated with something really negative and embarrasing
nuDoomfags lost, Total Boomer Victory

>>11982327
RIP AND TEAR, yourself.

>>11982327
what happened

>>11982327
What?

>>11980543
>>11981494
It's possible anon, with loads of save-scumming. Grab the shotty then the shell box, run to middle to get the armor and cause some infight, especially the Pain Elementals. You need to use corners and the chiansaw a lot. In the hitscanner room, you can do "open and close the door quick" trick to make them infight, then wake up and kill the others one by one. The most tricky part is Arachno/Rev room, but it's easy to make them infight while staying inside and close to the door (or circle running around the monsters if they give you space).

Also, in GZDoom (which you seem to be using), Lost Souls and Icon of Sin spawns are counted towards kill count whereas in vanilla they don't.

Captcha: D2NXD

>>11982327
Rip and Tear was always a classic doom thing, it originated from the comic... even if NuDoom ground it into the dirt.

>>11982398
>>11982405
Don't ask. Though it's probably going to be spammed in here eventually.

>>11982126
you should get serious and play some serious sam

>>11982418
Doom is a vidya game, stuff like comics is tertiary and should mostly stay as trivia and not taken that seriously like we don't with the novels, old editors/utility disks etc.
Imagine if the Super Mario or Zelda cartoons on TV were constantly referenced instead of just being treated as a joke.

>>11982450
I already said I don't like them beating that phrase like a dead horse in the modern games.

>>11982450
I can't wait for the day when Zelda gets his famous "Well excuuuuuuuse me princess" catchphrase back

>>11982398
>>11982405
Some /pol/ shit that has nothing to do with the thread but that Anon's dumb enough to decide it needed bringing up anyway.

It's time for Wednesday Night Wipeout!
Come play some SRB2Kart!
WE ARE STILL ON NEPTUNE 2.4.3!

How to join (The short and easy way):
Download the All-in-one repack: https://mega.nz/file/JrsETLaJ#Ny7E1Uu7ftp-2Yojpdj04Rc5xucKgV1V6H2DPboPzLA
Extract it to its own folder (NOT the desktop or program files)
Run "SRB2Kart-Neptune (Connect to vrkart).bat" and wait for any missing files to download in-game
DO NOT run "srb2kart.exe" and expect to be able to join the server.
If you don't have a 64-bit machine/OS for whatever reason: Copy the contents of the 32-bit folder into the main folder

How to join (The longer and harder way):
Download version 1.6 of the game: https://github.com/STJr/Kart-Public/releases/download/v1.6/srb2kart-v16-Installer.exe
Get the custom client we use: https://codeberg.org/NepDisk/srb2k-neptune/releases/tag/Neptune2.4.3
Get the mods either automatically in-game or at: https://macgu.fun/repo/srb2kart/
Connect to macgu.fun (either use connect in console or "specify ipv4 address" under Multiplayer)

>I HAVE TO BITCH FAST AND TEXT CHAT TOO SLOW
We also have a Mumble server!
Address: 51.161.34.159
Port: default
Password: endoom

>I heard this game supports proximity chat, are we using that?
No.

Pro tips: https://pastebin.com/YV6biqxq
(This is out of date and written for a different server, but it still has a lot of useful information.)

>>11982450
I can't wait to bomb some dodongos.

>>11982468
I saw it on the news actually
I bet Kontra Kommando has a huge grin on his face right now, he was right about DW all along

>>11982485
Doomworld were in the news for being gay again? You know what, don't even tell me, it's gonna be something stupid and it's not going to be retro.

>>11982450
>>11982474
Whoever they are, I just hope they made lots of spaghetti for us and Mama Luigi.

>>11968740
>[8-27] Herexen, vanilla crossover mod for Doom
https://doomworld.com/forum/topic/154886

>>11982398
>>11982405
Alright, I'll spoonfeed it in brief.
A shooting happened at a catholic school in Minneapolis today. 2 dead, 17 injured. People found pictures of the shooter's guns which had various scribbles on them, one of them being "rip and tear".

>>11981602
It's significantly better in every way than the first one, unless you don't like long maps. But the creativity and the sheer level of polish on it from a visual, technical and gameplay perspective are astounding. It's one giant flex on the community.

>>11982417
Yeah I guess my only chance is to make them infight. It was obvious to me from the beginning that this is "make them infight" level where I had to use chainsaw whenever I could but I still tackled it head on and now it's time to pay with the ass raping last room(s)

>>11982470
three strikes, cya next week

>>11982531
It was a video of them going through their gear. But yeah, there was no consistency to the shit they put on their guns. It was random ass memes and inflammatory bullshit. Cringe edgelord stuff.
No one is going to care they used a phrase from Doom cannon. It was already meaningless when they scribbled it on their gun.

>>11982470
ggs

>>11982470
GGs

YASSSS
beat the level. Turns out there's totally enough ammo in this last section.
Spent a fuckton of time trying to find 2 last secrets and turns out I just had to punch the UAC door which was clearly conspicuous but I didnt think to attack it and not the "blue" door. Welp let's see what the next level brings.
Starts with the pain cunt already so that cant be great

Are there any total conversions which turn Doom into Thief?

>>11982993
next level is cool and not too long

shit. On fabric couldnt find an exit out of the final caco room cause it requires red key which I understand doesnt even exist and now I'm here with 3%

>>11980943
i get that it was originally suppose to be one but the 10mm pistol being a revolver sorta bothers me since it is an automatic pistol in every other fallout game.

I'm not sure if I'll keep this effect for the last subweapon here, it's just a lesser version of Kustam's thunder beam, but of course it has a few more shots to it, and doesn't require you to aim. So maybe it's fine.

Also been fucking around with the shotgun-tier upgrade. Normally if you shoot too much with the gun it jams up, but with the upgrade you'll get a charge shot that's just a long beam, and that applies to the triple shot too.

Are official Heretic levels good for wand starting?

>>11983075
From the screenshot, go to the left and follow the arrow on the ground to get a berserk to get all your health back

>>11983624
It's manageable for the first 3 episodes, but later episodes are not balanced around it at all

>>11983624
Yes, some of them can have chaotic starts where you will be running around trying to find weapons, but that makes it more fun. The two extra episodes will be especially tough, but funnily enough the hardest level will probably be E4M1 which you'd of course be wand starting normally too.

>>11983637
Been quiet as of late, burning braincells on aesthetic and mechanical design shit. Still need to make the wingman deployable thing for the Thunderpod there: It'll give you an extra tier on the whip charge for a nasty lightning whip attack.
Also gonna go back and add a unique debuff for the big heavy flail mode on the whip: It'll be an effect that causes a radial splash damage effect if a monster is killed while marked. Should make for some cool chain reaction shit if I get it right. This is all in service of one of the upgrades I wanna give Samson being the ability to mark multiple enemies in a radius with a charged whip strike.

I don't think I'm gonna hit my goal of finishing this mod by year's end, which fucking sucks.

I love sawing through hordes of enemies with gloves + book

>>11981013
>>11981341
>>11981595
kino

>>11983650
yeah the gloves are satisfying af. i love the sound they make when you equip them

Is there any reason why nightdive studios gets so much flak?

>>11983894
With the Heretic+Hexen thing, they made some random fan mod the default way to play Heretic.

>>11983894
They usually halfass shit in a way that anybody with an interest in the thing is going to notice, but your average dopey dumb dumb is going to praise the shit out of them for making the game take no thought to run.

>>11983894
Recurring theme with them of presenting a priced remaster that's less functional than concurrent source ports or fanmade patches/mods. I fired up their SS2 remaster, that they've been working on for what feels like 4-5 years, and it seems pretty neck and neck with what my modded version of the original SS2 already did and it costs like $3 if you're paycucking. Some updated models but that shit isn't important to me.
People probably have a higher opinion of ND the less that they interact with the communities for those games. I will say I'd appreciate it if they did a basic port of Ultima Underworld 1 and 2 for modern OS. Underworld Unity is just unpolished enough to make me play in dosbox instead.

>>11983951
What them and GoG did to the Blade Runner Scummvm release was disgusting, especially guilting the dude into not standing up for himself.

>>11983961
qrd? I heard the ND release was garbage so I stopped paying attention to it.

>>11983970
It got pulled from sale on all platforms in favor of the Shitedive one, despite it being awful and having outright taken parts of the good release but somehow even making those worse, and the dude behind the good one was calling them+GoG out on it but got guilted into silence by the old "people are saying mean things to our community manager because of you" trick.

Meanwhile they bundled the old one in with theirs and pretended it all never happened.

Fun times with friends!
God, making WEBMs is such a pain the ass.

Well, i sort of understand the pipeline to create and implement prerendered sprites now, i just wish that my artistic skills weren't so lacking, same with my programming ones lmao.

>>11984074
They chillin'

>>11983894
I think the big part of it is their releases generally lacking with patching and company itself being too popular in indie-retro-FPS scene to a point where their fans can be as annoying as New Blood's.
From my personal experience lately (because I'm a Heretic + Hexen fan and wanted to see some shit fixed), I'll also say that their lack of community managers is infuriating. That Edward guy is such an obnoxious and condescending elitist cunt who seemingly views any question at Nightdive Discord server as personal attack or intentionally misinterpreting it. He's giving blatant "I don't wanna talk to you" attitude and it's baffling that they didn't hire someone who would at least pretend to care... and the funniest part is that server's moderators aware of it, but they say "he just answers honestly" and don't do shit about it.

TL;DR: People hate Nightdive for toxic elitism shown by both developers and fans.

>>11983901
>they made some random fan mod the default way to play Heretic.
and nerfed the mage's fourth weapon in Hexen because Xaser thinks it's better that way.

>>11984102
Tired of Nerfdive fucking with cool weapons.

>>11983625
based, thank you

>>11984092
For my own sanity, I never get mixed up in discords, or their power tripping community managers. But I can see why it would be frustrating if you're trying to raise an issue to the attention of the devs.

>>11984123
>power tripping community managers.
I wish. There's NO community manager on sight in their server. None. Just one developer being an asshole because he apparently has to interact with people, but clearly doesn't want to. Like, I would kind of understand if it was "matching the attitude" thing (frankly, I saw at least one moment where it fits), but you get this with ANY question/report/complaint.
And then you match that with Bethesda's disgusting customer support where you either get automated replies 90% of the time or just get ignored. So yeah, no shit their re-releases don't get enough patches when it's near impossible to report anything to them. And when you manage to stick something into Nightdive's nose, you're met with "we know better, fuck off" attitude.

>>11984123
>For my own sanity, I never get mixed up in discords
Sensible as fuck, very little good comes from engaging with some asshat's desire to be king of his very own mountain of shit.

>>11984162
Frankly, if I was getting paid to sit in a glorified chat room, I'd be in pretty high spirits. Money for nothing. They better pay me, anyways, or I wouldn't do it.

>>11984162
You are not alone with this. Nightdive has received shitloads of complaints about Edward. Not defending him, but he's highly autistic (diagnosed) so he lacks the social skills to the point that he doesn't know how to act friendly or do customer service. He isn't even trying to be asshole, but that's the only way he knows how to communicate. He would communicate the same way on date, to his first born baby or to his dying relatives, because his brain lacks the know-how of normal communication, so I wouldn't take it personally.

Sure he knows how to do network programming, which is an ass task to do. So he's clearly a gifted savant autist. Howerer it is major fuckup on Nightdive's part to not have a socially gifted person on custom service and not telling Edward to tone it down with his service. It's not good for Edward either to get a reputation as an almost satirical person (real life Sheldon) instead of just being a skilled programmer guy.

>same general up for 6 days
the board is dying, isn't it?

>>11984112
I'm split down the middle with them. They'll occasionally upgrade my older game licenses with new content that also come with questionable gameplay changes. They'll do something I agree with like remastering Killing Time, Powerslave, and Shadowman, and then they'll do something weird with Blade Runner. They'll often leave some games "updated enough" while others like Fresh Supply are left in a sorer state.
At the very least, they'll sometimes help with a renewed interest towards particular games leading to some new community content (like Quake 2), and a lot of their new content for older games can be played outside of their Kex Engine port. They'll sometimes get me to look into games I haven't given much of a chance, like Outlaws here, though I'll then get my fill and will have no interest in their remaster of it (especially when it's "Disney taxed" for $30).

>>11984236
Speed of /vr/ and /doom/ varies with time. Sometimes one general lasts for just over a day, sometimes two or three days.
I don't mind an easy pace desu.

Is it possible in DECORATE to set a temporary palette translation for an actor? Let’s say I have a new zombie that shoots a bullet, but can sometimes shoot a single plasma ball. Could I set a translation to turn the muzzle flash pixels on his sprite blue? Sticking Translation “1:1=2:2” into that specific firing state doesn’t work.

>>11984250
Can't you just make a new sprite?

>>11984236
There's been a lack of schizophrenia lately to keep the usual pace up

>>11984249
i remember a time when the gens would typically autosage in 1-2 days, sometimes more than one being baked in a given 24 hour period. i can't remember the last time a single doom thread went on for nearly a week. not a good sign.

>>11984256
It's just how it goes, man, the ebb and flow of 4chan and its not-garbage boards. I remember a summer maybe 6 or 7 years ago when posting on /doom/ was so slow that it actually fell off the board a few times.

>>11984252
I could, but it would be tedious, as what I’m working with will require quite a few palette swaps. I was just wondering if there was something more elegant.

>>11984250
You need a TRNSLATE lump with the translations and then use a_settranslation that calls a translation from it

>>11984261
If you already have a translation ready, it's just one copypaste and one color translation in slade.

>>11984085
i like it

>>11984236
Sarais just went to coo coo land again. Now this is comfier place again.

>>11984236
And also the /v/tards left as the Heretic remaster wasn't the hottest shit to hate anymore. Relax, they will come back after next QuakeCon.

>>11984261
If all you want to do to the sprite is to recolor the muzzle flash, then that would be really quick and easy to do, you would only need to add those frames and then the actor could use those for shooting plasma instead of bullets.

It would probably be quicker and easier than finding out if it's even possible at all to add some line of code for this, Slade even has a function for replacing colors in sprites with others in the palette, so you could plain copy over the relevant sprites (don't miss out on the rotations), and then just do that process.

>>11984234
>Sure he knows how to do network programming
uhhhhh... Have you tried playing deathmatch in any Dumpsterdive games? Shit's abysmal at the best of times.

>>11984287
Not really but I've played coop a lot, and it works great. Sure the network code isn't perfect, but can you do better? Like I said network code is ass, and I couldn't do it better myself. It's the literal job for savant autist. It's not easy to find guys who can do that with many different games and engines. They don't exactly grow on trees. Edward is good on that job, even though he might be one of the worst customer service guys ever.

>>11984236
>This thread so far: 148 hours
A brief look at the time between the first and last post of the last 10 threads in order:
>86 hours
>47 hours
>62 hours
>50 hours
>71 hours
>69 hours
>167 hours
>96 hours
>141 hours
>100 hours

We're still on page 1, nearly past bump limit, but this thread is already an outlier. If I had more energy, I'd make a graph. Still not too extreme. Pic unrelated.

>>11984313
>pic
I absolutely love Slaughterfest Trilogy. Peak 2010s wads. Fun.

>>11984219
>if I was getting paid
That's a very big "if" nowadays, to be fair. Not to mention that sometimes people can be unbearably stupid in these "glorified chat rooms". I got enough brain damage from lurking in 3DR's server when it was more active.
>>11984234
>he's highly autistic (diagnosed)
Very sad, if that's true. Still, there's just no way he wasn't made aware of it. I would assume Edward is a guy in his 30s at minimum, so his alleged diagnose can't excuse his behavior even with the biggest benefit of a doubt given to him.
>so I wouldn't take it personally.
Sure. If it really is just how it is, I won't take it personally... fully.
>Howerer it is major fuckup on Nightdive's part to not have a socially gifted person on custom service and not telling Edward to tone it down with his service.
In this case, its enabling-turned-malice and Nightdive should actually be bullied for this. Such behavior doesn't do anyone involved any favors, but it's most damaging to Edward himself.

>>11984265
>>11984267
neato

>>11984305
Dawg, their ports have worse netcode than the original releases from the 90s, let alone modern sourceports. Trying to play Quake2R felt like I was back on dialup. Doom and Heretic have phantom players flying through walls before rubberbanding back in front of me.
Whatever client-side lag compensation they shove into these games might work well enough for co-op with a couple players, but once you have more than 4 it just goes to shit.
I have a friend I always get around 35-50 ping to in normal games that allow direct connection. When he hosts in some Nightdive slop the ping suddenly jumps up to 90 at minimum. Something is horribly wrong.

>>11984326
>That's a very big "if"
Perhaps. But honestly, a company shouldn't be able to compel you to moderate a chat room without pay.

>>11984342
>But honestly, a company shouldn't be able to compel you to moderate a chat room without pay.
I just refer to people in that position getting a short end of the stick in recent times in a form of being either underpaid or getting laid off and replaced by bot or unqualified person as a secondary position.

>>11984356
Anyone whose job can be entirely replaced by a bot probably already has been.

>>11984236
It's fine, we had months of solid drama flareups so you're used to that.

I like what ND did for some 5th gen console FPSs, y'know, those like Turok that got shafted by hardware bottlenecks and ended up with single digit framerates, no complains here.

That isn't the case for computer ones since a good chunk already worked fine with sourceports, on the other hand i don't know how one is supposed to ship an old ass game that isn't guaranteed to work on a modern machine, You can't really sell it in its original state since that way you're just asking for a gazillion of complains about compatibility issues, don't know if gog just bundles fan fixes but using shit from others instead of some propietary thingy is also pmuch asking for trouble.

But also, like, dude why are you selling a 30 year old game lmao, you already got yourself a gazillion "abandonware" .ru sites with download links for that, can't put the genie back in the bottle.

>>11984342
Putting an autistic person on a job where well adjusted Neurotypicals are known to snap is just, like, not good.

>>11984370
That pistol looks like an unfinished model.

>>11984373
Yeah, i was trying to get this janky DOS look, Of course i also look any skill to properly texture and finish that, so, uh, there it is.

>>11984380
*Lack
New thread when?

>>11984380
>>11984384
>Tapan Kaikki
>Assault Trooper
Hello, SOUL department?

>>11984326
>his alleged diagnose can't excuse his behaviour
Well yes it can, but I understand your point of view if you don't have experience with autism. My little bro is on his 30s and is quite heavy on autism too. He has received therapy which has made things easier for him and rest of the family, but therapy can't undo autism. I see similarities on his and Edward's behaviour. My bro used to have friends, but his unfriendly behaviour drove all them off. He can't smile, flatter, show empathy or even speak in friendly tone. He always speaks in flat and almost angry tone. He continually insults people, because he can't soften what he wants to say, but he doesn't do that on purpose. He gets easily offended too (and then really fucking angry), so you can't insult him on friendly manner. Still he is not some evil sociopath, and he did like his friends and loves his family. But if he went some customer service job, lot of people would think that he is a major asshole. Never had any luck with girls either, but I really I can't blame them. Still I love my bro, but I admit he can be a quite heavy person on some times. Still I will never abandon him.

But yeah, fuck Nightdive for putting Edward on such a position, even though I think most of their remasters are quite nice.

>>11984380
>>11984405
That's some blast from the past. I wonder, do people still make maps for TK.

>>11984370
>don't know if gog just bundles fan fixes
That is what GoG does.

Finally caught sufficiently dramatic entrance on video during testing.

>>11984236
the one or two samefagging anti-megaman schizos seem to have calmed down so we can have nice things again
And I guess nobody made progress on the doom pics so there's nothing to trigger their autism

>>11983634
>the hardest level will probably be E4M1
E4M9 is much harder. Darkness everywhere, weapons are hidden and guarded, freely roaming iron liches can reach you from the beginning. Do not wand start it.

>>11984409
Okay. He must be having at least some acknowledgement of this. I had at least one experience with autistic people that I can recall and that guy eventually acknowledged that he had troubles with behaviour. Change it? No, but at least it was clear where it comes from and just giving a short warning would go a long way in Edward's case in particular. We probably just agree to disagree here at the end.
Either way, his colleagues at Nightdive should know fucking better if Edward really is just that autistic because I only have your word for it, which you know isn't quite enough - I'm just more willing to give a benefit of a doubt to anon than anyone from Nightdive/Bethesda/etc. Maybe they do know what they're doing and it's not just incompetence, but Nightdive having a shield from some complains. I could see that being the case.

>>11984505
>one samefagging megaman schizo
Fixed.

>>11984380
Gun sprites in the menu there look pretty alright, though the grip on the Uzi makes my autism flare up, it's modeled after one of those chintzy blank guns they use in shitty low budget movies, it'd look cooler with the straight grip of the real on.
That's just me, but it'd be more like 90s DOS action games where they would be imitating Hollywood action movies in details like those.

>>11984581
For the love of god, do NOT engage him, just pretend he doesn't exist.

>>11984085
reminds me of the night I took 30 benadryl on a discord call

Anybody cooking a challenge?

>>11984521
I mean I do not have official papers on Edward's autism, but he himself has stated that he is a diagnosed autist and you can find some of his comments on his autism on dw and nightdive discord. But really it's only his word. Anyway if he isn't an autist he would act like an autist little too well. I don't think he would be that good of actor.

Anyway I do agree, that putting an autistic person on charge of customer service is so incompetent move that it seems like some real life satire. Howerer Nightdive is quite small company and this echoes the modern job market too well. You can't even get simple customer service job without having mad programming skills. Low end jobs are disappearing, and guys that shouldn't be doing those kinds of jobs, are doing them as their secondary job. Hell Edward is so incompetent as a customer service guy, that I'd prefer some black lesbian woman DEI hire at this point.

>>11984646
Hahaha. You think you actually woke up from that? You're still dreaming, friend.