Thread 11970387

I'm gaming tonight fellas
Going back and trying retro games / entires series I've never attempted before
(Ironically because the 3D Ninja Gaiden games looks cool)

shit thread

>>11970389
>playing games is shit

ok its a great thread im just mad and jealous that he gets to make an awesome blog post and all of you as his friends and i dont

>>11970403
errrm you can blog here too

>>11970387 (OP)
NG1 is my favorite. Beat it once when I was 11 during a weekend at my grandparents. Never came close in my 20s/30s

>>11970403
I'll play co-op with you right now and we could stream it live with a /vr/ thread as the chat

>>11970474
>8 player age of empires
>4v4

>>11970478
Any takers?

>>11970387 (OP)
Speaking of NES sidescrollers, thanks to the guy who was complaining about this a couple days ago. This game rocks.

quitting at the stage 4 boss for now wtf

>>11970601
Ninja Gaiden? The two demons on the pedestals?

>>11970617
yeah, was just standing still in a spot they rarely jump at spamming slash

>>11970630
If for some reason you don't have the slash, you can always just git gud, a strat that usually works for cool dewds.

>>11970670
ofc

>>11970387 (OP)
A couple hints with NG1
>Don't stop moving. NG is designed to be played quickly and for you to get into a rhythm of sorts. If you try to play slowly and carefully, you'll get eaten alive by respawning enemies. Especially towards the endgame.
>Bloody Malth can be beaten by just bum rushing him and slashing away. You'll outlast him if you're quick.
>Jaquio is a pain in the ass if you don't know what to do. This is the one fight in the game you need to be really patient. Stay on the ground and let the fireballs fly past you and try to time it so you can jump up and get a hit in while still avoiding the fire. But yeah stay on the ground.

cleared all the GB Castlevanias tonight

>>11970731
this was the best one with the exception of the final 2 bosses being pure memorization

>>11970735
a lot better controls on this than the other 2, but so freaking easy, about the only way to die is to run out of time which you probably will if you try to explore

also the burning mode or whatever they call it is just an I WIN button against all the bosses

>>11970727
>>Bloody Malth can be beaten by just bum rushing him and slashing away. You'll outlast him if you're quick.

Not many, if any, will believe me, but, it's possible to defeat Malth without taking any hits without the slash. You have to react extremely quickly, but you can jump out the way of his beams AND give him damage. Good luck.

>>11970731
>cleared all the GB Castlevanias tonight
Did you cheat?

>>11970727
Is it still considered "beating the game" if i use the speedrun technique of spamming attack and down in the air to do multiple attacks per jump

>>11970727
>>Jaquio is a pain in the ass if you don't know what to do. This is the one fight in the game you need to be really patient. Stay on the ground and let the fireballs fly past you and try to time it so you can jump up and get a hit in while still avoiding the fire. But yeah stay on the ground.

Horrible advice for him, in fact, you want to do the opposite.

>>11970747
Nta, but yes, if you didn't cheat to get to that point, then yes, you still beat the game. Using a Game Genie out right out. Using a GameShark is right out.

>>11970747
Nta, but yes, if you didn't cheat to get to that point, then yes, you still beat the game. Using a Game Genie is right out. Using a GameShark is right out.

>>11970746
I had the Nintendo Power guides on my other monitor

>>11970750
What's your trick then? Every time I try being more aggressive I get fucked up. The fireballs are too fast and too random.

>>11970761
Oh, so you didn't beat them then.

>>11970761
That isn't cheating, you did them legit. Nintendo and gamers settled that long ago.
>>11970763
>What's your trick then?
It's sort of a trick, sort of not because it's repeatable and doesn't crash the game, but I'm making a new youtube channel and will share it soon. I can't believe no one has shown in after all these years.

Hint: you can't do it without getting hit at least once....

>>11970774
Just explain the trick

>>11971417
Hint #2: It goes against Ryu's instincts.

Normally they say, Ninja GAYden

>>11970727
>Bloody Malth can be beaten by just bum rushing him and slashing away. You'll outlast him if you're quick.
"Can" more like the only feasible strategy unless you're a ninja god. If you try to be a cool guy and dodge some attacks you're risking getting killed and going back to the beginning of the stage.

5-3 is killing me man

>>11972889
yo how the fuck do i beat this boss he has homing attacks??

>>11970747
You're just playing the game the way it was intended, anon. Why is this even a question?

>>11972909
Best option: keep the slash attack from the last time you were offered one. Protip: Don't die.
It honestly is the easiest way to beat Malth.

>>11972995
man.....i dont wanna reset but fuck

>>11970763
NTA, but the "trick" is to get into a rhythm of moving across the stage without taking any damage. Learn how to weave through his homing fireballs using the stage to your advantage. Once you get good enough you'll get into a rhythm and you'll begin to see that there will be opportunities available to you to jump up and air slash him as you are moving back and forth across the stage. Bonus points if you can multi-air slash him on the move. It's all based on timings and rhythm. When I learned how to do it I gave up on trying to hit him for a long while and just let my instincts train themselves on the movements, running them through my own subconscious analysis until I could dodge his bullshit without sweating it. It will seem like you can't do it at first, but if you spend enough time trying, then you will basically unlock it as a skill. Godspeed.

>>11973000
Don't reset, bro. Malth is easy as pie. You bum rush him and slash as fast as you can. Literally standing in front of him spamming B. You don't need no fancy special moves. You can kill him in no time. You can survive like two full assaults from him, that means fucking up twice, which is a lot.

>>11973010
>You can survive like two full assaults from him, that means fucking up twice

You're assuming anon is getting there more or less in one piece.

>>11970387 (OP)
I tried that game recently too because of Ragebound. It's the kind of game where if it didn't have a reputation as a good game and I just randomly bought it back in the day, I would have asked for a refund. Because it looks glitchy, janky and defective if you don't have anyone telling you it's intentional. You walk forward and a bunch of enemies spawn at the same time. Then you walk a step backwards and they all despawn, but a bunch of other enemies spawn instead. It works well in practice once you understand what's happening and I'm glad I stuck with the game but I wonder how many dropped it.

>>11970387 (OP)
I really enjoy the instances in ninja gaiden where you're faced with a new enemy spawn and you have the security at your back to stop and think out the pattern while dodging in place so to speak, any individual screen can feel like its own little puzzle scenario and I dont think that would necessarily be the case without the luxury of constant repeating patterns.

>>11973093
ng is like an entire game bruteforced into playing like the medusa sections in castlevania. why limit repeating spawns to just a few specific small enemies where every single enemy in the game can function as a constant pattern.

>>11973023
You get healed before each boss fight.

>>11970387 (OP)
I'm inspired, OP. I've got a Saturday night ahead of me and fuck all to do, and Ninja Gaiden is one of my favorite trilogies! I'm gonna marathon them tonight. After each stage I'm gonna take a gulp of a vodka cocktail for challenge.

3 down 3 to go.
>>11973052
I'm glad to hear that Ragebound is bringing new players to the original trilogy. Maybe more 2d Ninja Gaiden's will be made.

NG1 down. Good times, feeling a bit buzzed. Here's some trivia, the music that plays just after the final boss fight sounds kind of like the theme to Romeo and Juliet 1968.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bL_17rgGZw4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4FHpmn-KYec

NG2 was such an improvement in audio and visuals. Some of my earliest memories are of playing this game. fucking classic.

Do you have a favorite level in your favorite games? For me it's 4-1 of NG2. The music, the rhythm of the attacks, muscle memory sparking the synapses. It's glorious. I would make a webm if I wasn't a brainlet. Post about your favorite stages.

For a guy who looks super intimidating in cutscenes, he sure goes down like a bitch.

I enjoyed Ragebound a lot, but it wasn't the NG4 that I was waiting for, and I finally realized why. There's no "looking at a castle" scene.

2 is down. Not drunk yet, but I feel well on my way. 3 is my least favorite of the trilogy, but that has mostly to do with the story being a convoluted mess. Gameplay-wise, it's fine. Still kinda salty about how the last stage can kill you with the timer, since that fucker doesn't reset.

One major difference between 3 and the other 2 is the perspective. All surfaces are completely flat, there's no surface to see. This in addition to Ryu's new floatiness and jumping arc is due to the vertically scrolling sections that the other 2 didn't have. It's fascinating to me that such major changes can be made from a simple design decision back then.

Something a lot of people don't know is that NG3 is supposed to take place between NG1 and 2. This was made clear in the jap release, but not elsewhere. Didn't help that Nintendo Power and others didn't make this clear either, so 3 was thought of as the chronological end of the classic trilogy. It led to confusion, at least for me, because the Dragon Sword disintegrates into energy and revives Irene at the end of 2, so in 3 he couldn't be wielding the Dragon Sword anymore.

People shit on the Ninja Gaiden Trilogy for the SNES, and they are wrong calling it a low effort port of NES games. But it was the version that I played the most until I got my hands on NES carts and emulators. Going from the SNES port to NES wasn't too different, but 3 had the most differences. For one, the double damage wasn't in the SNES version. At first, I thought that I had a bugged NES cart. But no, that's just the way it was. One other difference was the music. A see a lot of people shit on the SNES remixes, but I know for a fact that not all of them are bad. Not all of them are accurate either. Take this track for this stage in the two versions.

NES: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZegHH3S2wY
SNES:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOdQERSB8iQ

This stage has always confused me. Are the mountains upside down? Am I running on the ceiling? Why is this door upside down?

The custscene just before 6-1 has a tune that appears nowhere else in the series, and I want to give it a moment here in this humble thread.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocoYrNpojgA

>>11973307
To be fair, you don't play as Ryu. Maybe that's a Ryu thing.

Pic related is my biggest problem with NG3's continuity. It proposes that the ruins in NG1 were actually a dimensional warship that can fly like a goddamn Final Fantasy airship. On one hand, thank you devs for trying something new, but on the other hand, fuck you for retrospectively ruining other games. The big problem with this is that at the end of the game, we get to see both the ship, and the Castle Rock Fortress collapse, but they explicitly say that the Fortress and the ship are the same thing. Fucking how?

I want to be a video game when I grow up!

Deliberately take a death here to reset the timer.

Nearly done. First form is always the hardest.

I always thought that this final boss got a raw deal. It's definitely the most challenging of all the NES NG final bosses, but there's no narrative explanation for what it is, or why it's there.

Doesn't matter I guess, cause it's dead now. Well that's the OG NG trilogy. I'm kinda tipsy and now I don't know what to do with my Saturday night. Posting cat pictures in /b/? Texting an ex with a threat? I just don't know. Anyway, I know this isn't my personal blog, but I hope you've taken away something from this that wasn't cringe, or AIDS. Long live classic gaming, VR bros!

I am not Hold me Squirtle! I promise!

>>11973304
Oh yeah, Ashtar is really easy. If you cling to the wall in the lower right corner, he'll never hit you either.

>>11973389
There is a way to have enough time actually

>>11970492
>complaining
why? this game fucks

YEAH!

bro this last fucking stage

>>11974021
6-2 and 6-3 have probably caused more tantrums and game console destruction that any other game, but is there a specific part that's stopping you?

>>11974047
I'm at the final boss now but am just gonna abuse save states, just to reset from the beginning when i die

so there's just no way to hit the 2nd phase boss consistently without taking damage? is this pixel perfect?

>>11974152
>so there's just no way to hit the 2nd phase boss consistently without taking damage?

There are two ways to beat the middle boss (Jaquio) without taking a hit. One by keeping the slash attack, the other by dodging his fireballs which is easier than you think, but stress wrecks most inexperienced players.

There is another secret way to beat him that is easier than both of those methods....

>>11974078
You can always kill Ryu off then start back at 6-1, then get the slash attack in 6-3, keep it, then whack Jaquio.

one more phase

Protip: If you use a turbo button, you CAN destroy the head of the demon before it foists a hit upon you.

>>11974208
Somewhere Mike Matei just felt a great disturbance.

Nice
Although I don't feel any satisfaction beating games anymore

>>11974220
Did you save scu-err save state?

>>11974078
>30% retweet rate out of 9000+ comments
Looks like we're losing, boys.

>>11974230
just at the beginning of the boss fight but then did all phases in one go

>>11974240
>just at the beginning of the boss fight
Like how exactly?

>>11974254
Phase 1 of the fight I save stated

>>11974260
Did you use it?

Okay which retro game do I play next

>>11974298
Phoenix for the Atari 2600.

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>>11974298
Ninja Gaiden 2, of course. It is easier than the first.

>>11974840
>It is easier than the first.
lol

>>11974840
sure..

>>11974298
Did you ever decide on what to play next?

>>11976078
maybe NG 2 and 3, maybe something SEGA related