Thread 11971565

>bro just sit and wait for 5 seconds until it turns off
Here we see the ingenious design that makes Mega Man X3 the beloved classic that it is

>>11971565 (OP)
>Too brain dead to observe the pattern fully before acting, despite there not being a threat from behind at all
Do you not know how to play video games?

>>11971570
I know you're joking but the idea of being expected to sit and observe an enemy in an MMX game is so fucking funny. Like the designers missed the memo that they weren't making a classic Megaman game, they were making an entry in the charge shot spam Sonic the Hedgehog spin-off series

>>11971578
It was an outsourced game, yes.

>>11971565 (OP)
>get hit by laser
>laser disappears, free to move on
>go back to try again
why

>>11971578
>Like the designers missed the memo that they weren't making a classic Megaman game
This enemy would be an abomination even in the classic series. There's no classic game with enemies where you have to sit and do nothing until they let you pass.
>>11971590
It's demonstrating how the enemy works, retard.

>>11971602
looks like tism, you should see a doctor

>dashes into laser while it's moving in the same direction
>dashes before hitting full speed
>dashes too early, so dash stops while still under the laser
Just quit, the later games will OBLITERATE low skill players.

>>11971565 (OP)
i wanna say you're supposed to dash past it when it's going into you. either way though they barely do any damage even without the armor upgrade so it's not the end of the world if you get hit is it?

>>11971672
You can get past the laser consistently if you dash at just the right distance where your speed is at its highest when passing through. I'm convinced this is a glitch because there is no other obstacle in the entire series that relies on the imperceptible difference in speed between the start of the dash and the end of the dash.
>>11971646
Very Celeste-esque trooncore speedtranny stuff here

>>11971565 (OP)
Nigger, I've played MMX3 for 2 decades. It never occurred to me to stop for these lasers. Just dash and hold the button when the laser is moving towards you. Even if you take damage, this stage has more than enough life ups later on

>>11971678
I hear about this "Celeste" game on vr. I don't know what it is, I like to imagine it's a cute blonde Greek/Roman girl in toga

>>11971590
based retard

>this old game you like is... bad
>Now, PS2 spongebob squarepants, now that's a fucking classic...

>>11971565 (OP)
X3 has problems, but over all I'd say it is stays a fun experience due to the solid foundation it is built on. That said, you will have a better time if you ignore the buster "upgrade" entirely

>>11971565 (OP)
You can get past the laser without waiting and there are very few of those throughout the game. X3's enemy design issues lie in many of them being interchangeable in terms of behavior and very basic, you can ignore or use charge shots against most of them and not bother while X1-X2 enemies were placed in ways that would bait you into getting close and getting hit by an attack/another enemy. X1-X2 also don't punish you for getting hit as much, so most would say that they're easier, but they're way more interesting than X3 once you stop relying on upgrades as much. One of the coolest segments in X2 is in Crystal Snail, where there's a cramped upwards slope with bats and a block at the end that slides down. The bats respawn when you go backwards after reaching the block, so a careless player will be punished, but you can still be aggressive with the bats as long as you're skilled enough or know which weapons to use.

>>11971565 (OP)
Cant you just break it?

>>11971818
X3 might be a decent game if you play it on its own but if you have already experienced the far superior classic series then it will bore you to tears
>>11971902
No, none of the weapons work on it. Maybe you can break it with one of the retarded near-useless charged weapon attacks but I didn't try
>>11971797
I am a zoomer who approached these games without the bias of nostalgia which is why I can say that every classic game is better than X3 (even MM8) and that the classic series is overall far superior to the X series. Note that zoomers grew up with every jewtuber telling us that MMX was the greatest series ever so I actually expected X3 to be good and not dogshit

>>11971565 (OP)
X games have super easy level design compared to classic games. you have no right to complain.

>>11971578
>play like a retard
>get retarded results

>>11971646
This is a full on exploit. X6 is so shit they forgot this part was impossible with one of the outfits in the game.

>>11972194
And there's absolutely no point in playing as unarmored X for much of the same reasons.

>>11971914
MM8 is peak kino, people hate it just for having a shitty dub.
t. Another zoomer

>>11971565 (OP)
>Mega Man X3 the beloved classic that it is
Is it?

>>11971565 (OP)
You got filtered by patience. Im sorry but you lack the mental fortitude to be good at mega man x3

>>11971678
>>11971672
I've been dashing to get past those lasers since the 90s, when I was a kid. I figured that's what you're supposed to do, because if just waiting were intended to be the only way to avoid damage, they'd just have it cycle between damaging laser and entirely off, as opposed to having any sort of scanning mode at all. Dashing past in the narrower hallway is harder, and if you're really concerned about getting damaged, then maybe wait.
If you really want an irritating dash (or in this case slide) to avoid the lasers mechanic, go complain about the inside the sandcrawler stage in Super Star Wars, now THAT shit was frustrating.

>>11971565 (OP)
u(x4)

>>11972783
Zoomerbros...

>>11971646
Shit like this is why I can't truly hate X6. For all its faults, stuff like the Shadow armor was cool as fuck.
>>11971678
This isn't some skip, its near impossible to make that gap in normal play using that armor.
>>11972194
It was to try to persuade you to instead use the "normal" blade armor. I always like to think they found shit like above in testing and decided to keep it as is to keep it from being impossible. They left shit like using ride armor to block the crusher in MSP after all.

>>11971914
>I am a zoomer
it shows
>who approached these games without the bias of nostalgia
so did everyone else who played it as a kid

>>11971914
>which is why I can say that every classic game is better than X3 (even MM8) and that the classic series is overall far superior to the X series.
apparently there's still hope for zoomers despite the retarded original post

>>11972256
>MM8 is peak kino, people hate it just for having a shitty dub.
and because they got filtered by
>jump jump slide slide

>>11971914
>zoomers grew up with every jewtuber telling us that MMX was the greatest series ever
And you don't believe that could influence your level of scrutiny in any way?

It's always funny to me when people squabble over MM and MMX game quality. Like outside of MMX7, any MM/MMX game is better than the majority of other platformers and action platformers. Absolutely none of them are flat out bad, even X6.

>>11971565 (OP)
I remember renting this and thinking it was damaged or glitched because there were practically no enemies in the snowy level.

>>11973005
>It was to try to persuade you to instead use the "normal" blade armor
And in the first Gate stage, they expect you to use the Shadow Armor to climb up the "unclimbable" spike shaft, but any armor can make it with clever use of the Ice weapon as step-blocks and i-frame exploits.

>>11972783
zero even has a larger hitbox
OP sucks cocks

>>11973102
Exactly. MMX1 taught you to learn to use weapons and abilities for mobility, and its been a recurring cool way to fuck with the rules of platforming since.

>>11973128
>>11972783
>there is no other obstacle in the entire series that relies on the imperceptible difference in speed between the start of the dash and the end of the dash

>>11973080
Even the zero games, especially the zero games. I think they get too much hate here. They're are great extensions of the MegaMan core platformer series, just like sonic advance is a solid trio that expands on the core sonic series.

>>11973142
zero games have screen crunch
At least 1 and 2
I don't remember having any problems with it in 3 and 4

>>11973072
Let me tell you my mindset going into the X series. I played every NES MM game and I liked all of them. While I played through these games, I was excited, because I thought "man, there are so many of these great games in this series, and there's still the X games to play, which are supposed to be even better! 8 more great games!!" I went into the games with a positive bias and expected to like them, and I was not influenced by anybody on the internet saying they were bad. I came to believe they were bad completely independently, and so my level of scrutiny is more trustworthy than 6 year old Pablo who thought it was good because you can dash upwards like this retard >>11973043

>>11973158
Thats a lot of words to say you believe you don't understand confirmation bias. Its ok anon, its hard to understand the iterations without having years to wait between them. Just stop trying to find things to hate and look more honestly for things to like. Thats how you learn to appreciate shit.

>>11973080
>Like outside of MMX7
and MMX8

>>11973158
yep, typical "good game is... le bad" posting
nothing to see here

>>11973169
>confirmation bias is when you play game expecting it to be good but it's bad
I understand X3 more than you ever will. I have played this game 5 times trying to convince myself that it's actually good

>>11973175
I hope to one day teach some little shit that he's not the next early AVGN he thinks he is. I'd rather they not even try to play retro shit than just force themselves to hate it to be contrarian.

What's the "gitgud" cope for this one?

>>11971646 >>11973136
What's the difference in speed on SNES? I thought only the PS1 games had windup on dash

>>11973193
Some of your childhood games are actually shit, old man. Why don't you stop coping with this dogshit X series and play a real game like Megaman 4?

>>11973194
That's your hint to go find the ride armor right before that, and the first opportunity to get familiar with the controls.

>>11971565 (OP)
There are kids younger than you working this out quicker than you lol

>>11973170
X8 rocks

>>11973156
>zero games have screen crunch
>At least 1 and 2
No they don't

>>11973136
Who cares? Game design video essays aren't real.

>>11973156
I found the screen crunch to be worst in 3 actually. The lava factory and neo arcadia levels were quite bad for it. The other games were fine.

Crying "screen crunch" on games not ported to lower resolution platforms is just poor reflexes cope

There's a weird new trend going around where if you ever have to be patient or slow down in a game, then it means the game lacks "gameplay density"

>>11973617
>dude it's so boring because you're supposed to go to tunnel rhino first and find the secret unlockable and carry it over to this part
It also doesn't go by any faster with the ride armor. If you're going to go with a cope this sad then you might as well have pointed out that this sequence doesn't happen if you beat Gravity Beetle before Blast Hornet
>>11973713
>all complaints about my favorite game are only because of a boogeyman trend/e-celeb

Reminder that you're all responsible for making the retards feel at home by interacting with them

>>11973769
>dude don't discuss anything with anyone just circlejerk about how good super mario world and metroid are or you're not doing a gatekeeping
I rape you, nigger.

>>11973198
There is no discernible difference in speed. To the eyes of the average player, X starts at max dash speed until he stops. That's also how every Megaman game has always worked because there is never any inertia in movement with the exception of ground movement in MM1 and MM2. Megaman might as well be the poster boy for binary movement in platformers.

>>11973194
>she didn't do the correct boss order to change the stage, a mechanic established in the very first game
rofl
lmao, even

>>11973772
>""""circlejerk"""
>"Super Mario" strawman

>>11973785
I don't care if I miss a heart container or some other upgrade. I don't bother getting all the subtanks, etc, anyway, because I don't need every single possible advantage to beat the final stages like most Xbabs. I care that my time is being wasted with almost 60 seconds of watching robots put crates on a platform. When I play X3, I will actually do Gravity Beetle first, even though you can only get a heart container in Gravity Beetle's stage from beating Blast Hornet, just so I don't have to sit through this. If I cared about heart containers, I would do Blast Hornet first. It's too bad Gravity Beetle's weapon is just like Galaxy Man's weapon if it was unusable dogshit. Maybe they could have had an actual boss fight there instead of shooting fucking crates

>>11973684
All levels but the first and the last IIRC are annoying gimmicky levels, with little in the way of standard platforming. The tag mechanic is just a gimmick too. Boss weapons are completely unnecessary other than for boss weaknesses since you're way too powerful by default anyway. If it wasn't for the better plot, graphics and soundtrack, I'd call it even worse than X7. I think people just forced themselves to like it because it came out after X7

>>11973710
I love the game gear sonic games but that's just flat out incorrect. Whenever a portable game has leaps of faith, people often colloquially equate it to screen crunch.
>>11973764
Nah, you're just looking for things to hate. Its sad, not annoying.

>>11973198
Before the dash you get into this position, which is the actual problem

>>11974546
>I love the game gear sonic games but that's just flat out incorrect
All of the Game Gear Sonic games were ported from the higher resolution Master System except for Triple Trouble you DUMB NIGGER RETARD
>Nah, you're just looking for things to hate
I don't have to look. The game presents them to me freely

>>11974562
If you weren't just checking wikipedia articles to see when they co-released, you'd see games like Tails' Adventure never had a SMS release at all. Then again, you probably don't even know what colloquially means.
>I don't have to look. The game presents them to me freely
I realize its just shitty bait, but sadly there are people who actually think like this on this board.

>>11973136
Is that like a megaman romhack with quick man lasers that kill you if you don't know jumping down a ledge makes you fall faster than walking off of it?

>>11971602
Love the sarcasm

>>11973782
>To the eyes of the average player
the average player will tank the hit without giving a shit.

>>11978337
bars

This is not Megaman Zero, doing a no-hit will not give you anything.