Thread 11972352

>the gba was released in june 2001
>the ds was released in november 2004
why did nintendo kill the gba in just over 3 years?

>>11972352 (OP)
They were scared of the PSP

>>11972352 (OP)
>DS

>>>/v/

>>11972352 (OP)
Best handheld ever made. Inb4 zoomer shit about led back lights.

Reggie and Iwata said back during E3 2004 that the DS would be a third line in addition to the console and the Game Boy. Nobody believed it because it sounded so stupid. Either way, GBA continued being supported with new releases until 2006.

>>11972352 (OP)
>walmart sells short socks
>walmart sells long socks
why is walmart trying to kill socks?

>>11972413
retard

>>11972398
Yeah, mostly slop and like 2 of 3 good games, and one of them Japan only.

Gameboy lasted too long. This should have been the Gameboy Color.

>>11972352 (OP)
It kept getting games until 2007 though

>>11972473
and the ps2 kept getting games until 2014 or 2015

>>11972471
The GBA is actually quite powerful and way better than the GBC. Worse sound and resolution but WAY more powerful than an SNES.

The PSP forced Nintendo's hand.

Also, don't forget that the GBA didn't really die until about 2006. I wouldn't say the DS picked up momentum until the Lite released and there were games like MKDS, NSMB Pokemon DP, and Metroid Prime Hunters.

>>11972352 (OP)
The arrival of a portable PS2, scared Nintendo.
Imagine being Nintendo and seeing people playing Final Fantasy, Dragon Quest and other JRPGs in 3D everywhere in Japan.

>>11972352 (OP)
At the time Nintendo said that the DS was a "third pillar" and it wouldn't replace the GBA, but it didn't work out that way.

Piggybacking off what the past few anons have said, the DS had a slow adoption rate during its first year and a half because not many people were willing to pay $120 for a portable console with a game library that was kind of weak. In practice, the GBA performed just fine in 2005, and anecdotally I can say the only people I knew at the time with DSes were rich kids. It wasn't until the DS Lite came out in mid 2006 at a cheaper price point and with better games that the DS family started selling well enough that Nintendo could comfortably retire the GBA.

>>11972352 (OP)
It was all part of Shitoru Shitwata's master plan to memory-hole old (GCN/GBA and earlier) Nintendo and replace it with Nutendo (DS/Wii "blue ocean strategy" casual-pandering) ASAP.

Same reason why he delayed Twilight Princess for a year to add waggleshit and make it a Wii launch title, even though it was perfectly ready to release on GameCube in 2005.

>>11972352 (OP)
why do we have this autism thread every week

>>11972352 (OP)
Funny thing is as a wee lad that time felt more like 6 years.

I did not care for the ds and the 2 screen set up makes it a pain to emulate without turning my monitor sideways

>>11972523
>"it wouldn't replace the GBA"
>it literally played GBA games, rendering the GBA obsolete

>>11972576
Two screens were completely unnecessary.

Nintendo should've gone forward with the original "Game Boy Iris" concept which was just a successor to the GBA with better hardware/more buttons etc.

Would've happened if not for Shitwata.

>>11972352 (OP)
They didn't. The GBA still got good games well into 05 and 06. Like other anons said I think they were worried about the PSP so they made a "third pillar" in the DS and didn't want to outright replace the Game Boy in case it didn't do well. Once Mario Kart DS and the Lite came out and started printing money then they decided to drop it.

>>11972583
>Like other anons said I think they were worried about the PSP so they made a "third pillar" in the DS and didn't want to outright replace the Game Boy in case it didn't do well.
Nintendo did the same with the Switch 1. Initially they were very insisted it was not a replacement for either the Wii U or 3DS but was its own thing. It's just a cover-your-ass thing they did every time they came out with a weird concept that they weren't sure would be a success.

Interestingly I think Iwata said in an interview once they would've scrapped the Wii concept too if the DS had flopped. His whole reinvention of the company was riding on this device.

>>11972352 (OP)
You do realise no one owned these things as they were retarded gimmicks for spoilt kids? 2001 the PS1/PS2/PC dominated. Why the fuck do you spam threads about these shitty kids toys that were not even as cool as the old grandstand led games. Why don't you get into retro games instead if spamming this retarded Nintendo garbage?

>>11972595
Wow, Eric is posting on /vr/ now too?

>>11972601
Who the fuck is Eric cunt?

>>11972595
GBA sold over 80 (!) million units. Also it was affordable and powerful, perfect handheld. Shitload of SNES ports, even had a respectable-for-what-it-was low-res Doom 1 and 2 on it.

>>11972601
Because the GBA's hardware was severely outdated on release. Like, moreso than usual for Nintendo hardware. It could barely even do bad 3D, it would have been laughable as Nintendo's only portable option in 2004, it needed a replacement fast.

>>11972428
>no u

>>11972498
There were no Dragn Quest games released on the psp, and the 3D version of FF III released on the DS before any FF games were on psp

>>11972352 (OP)
Way I heard it, DS was just an internal experiment but it was successful so they decided to release it anyway.

And the GBA was truly mind numbingly shit.

what is the point of spamming this thread

>>11972581
You're talking about hardware perspective, he means software perspective

>>11972523
>all that cope
lol

>>11972905
First time I've seen this thread actually

>>11972576
>emulating handhelds
here's your problem

>>11972672
What were the 3D capable handhelds in 2001? How much did they cost?

>>11972576
>the 2 screen set up makes it a pain to emulate without turning my monitor sideways
the handheld is bad because you cant emulate it easily is the funniest complaint ive ever heard

>>11972372
PSP would have killed the DS if Nintendogs hadn't come when it did, they were right to be scared. It wasn't obvious the DS would win the generation until Brain Training. Neither game was possible on GBA.

>>11972672
If you think the GBA was outdated at release, you should see the competition at the time.

>>11972386
cry about it old faggot, in a few years 7th gen discussion will be allowed.

its just a matter of time and its going to happen soon. the nintendo DS is RETRO.

>>11972428
Cram it, Fundie!

>>11973721
You mean all the other BACKLIT handhelds that could play the same games? One of them was also a cell phone btw, not that you'd remember because you weren't there. I love the GBA but the only reason Nintendo won was Pokémon.

>>11973972
First of all, by cell phone, I assume you mean the N Gage, which came out two and a half years later. Second of all, none of the competition at the time had backlit screens. The Game Gear and Lynx were long dead. The competition was the Wonderswan and Neo Geo Pocket, and the GBA blew both of those out of the water in every way. Three months prior to the GBA, the WonderSwan Color was released, which still used a passive matrix display and inferior to the GBA specs-wise in every dimension. Please, do research before embarrassing yourself like this.

>>11973986
>being this wrong
Somebody watched a video essay lmao

>>11973991
Where’s the lie?

>>11973972
>because you weren't there
Stop doing this. Any Zoomer can look things up on Wikipedia and other places. Just because they were born later doesn't mean they don't have a great amount of interest.

>>11972352 (OP)
>>11972463
>>11972474
Decent NA 2005 games:
>DK King of Swing
>Donkey Kong Country 3 (port)
>Dragon Ball GT Transformation
>Final Fantasy IV
>Fire Emblem Sacred Stones
>Gunstar Super Heroes
>Harvest Moon More Friends of Mineral Town
>James Pond: Codename Robocod
>Klonoa 2: Dream Champ Tournament
>Zelda Minish Cap
>Mario Party Advance
>Mega Man Battle Network 5
>Mega Man Zero 4
>Mr. Driller 2
>Pokemon Emerald
>Riviera: Promised Land
>Shaman King LotS
>Shaman King Master of Spirits 2
>Sigma Star Saga
>Snood 2
>WarioWare Twisted
>Yoshi Topsy Turvy
>Yu Yu Hakusho Tournament Tactics

>>11972352 (OP)
GBC & GBA were stopgaps to DS.

>>11974007
>being this bootylasted because you weren't there
>coping this hard because you weren't there.
Stop doing this. Any Zoomer who does will but justly mocked.
>Just because they were born later doesn't mean they don't have a great amount of interest.
Your student debt for that AA in lesbian chicano underwater basket weaving is not retro.

>>11974061
2006 games (1 JP game included):
>Dragon Ball Advanced Adventure
>Drill Dozer
>Final Fantasy V
>Mazes of Fate
>Mega Man Battle Network 6
>Mother 3
>Pokemon Mystery Dungeon Red Rescue Team
>Rebelstar Tactical Command
>Scurge Hive
>Summon Night Swordcraft Story 1+2
>Super Robot Taisen OG 1+2
>Tales of Phantasia
>Yggdra Union
>Yugioh GX Duel Academy
2004 games (2 JP games, post E3 '04, so June+):
>Advance Guardian Heroes
>Boktai 2
>Cartoon Network Block Party
>Classic NES port: Bomberman
>Classic NES port: Castlevania
>Classic NES port: Zelda 1+2
>Classic NES port: Metroid
>Classic NES port: SMB
>Crash Bandicoot Purple: Ripto's Rampage
>Densetsu no Starfy 3
>Donkey Kong Country 2
>DBZ Buu's Fury
>DQ Torneko 3
>FZero GP Legend
>Final Fantasy 1+2
>Kingdom Hearts Chain of Memories
>Kirby & the Amazing Mirror
>Mario Golf Advance Tour
>Mario Pinball Land
>Mario vs Donkey Kong (May 24, 2004, almost June)
>Mega Man Battle Network 4
>Mega Man Zero 3
>Metal Slug Advance
>Pokemon FireRed & LeafGreen
>Shaman King Master of Spirits
>Shining Soul II
>Sonic Advance 3
>Spyro Orange: Cortex Conspiracy
>Yugioh Reshef of Destruction
>Yugioh Destiny Board Traveler

Basically, you are a huge cumguzzling faggot if you think the GBA was abandoned after E3 2004.

>>11972398
Nintendo fanboys absolutely did, I remember arguing with them about this.

>>11974149
desu it didn't really feel like the GBA actually died until the DS lite released

no one gave a crap about the original fat DS

>>11973557
>I do not comprehend the word "and"
esl-kun...

>>11972498
3d final fantasy was on the ds

>>11972774
>>11974516
I meant before the PSP and DS were released. Just the idea of it scared Nintendo to death.

>>11974536
>Just the idea of it scared Nintendo to death
pretty reasonable considering how weak their home console sales were before the wii, so potentially losing the handheld console war too would be nintendo's death