Thread 11973209

Anons
I'm this close to burning $500 on a consolized MVS + 131 in 1 cart + arcade stick. One of the few systems I love that I don't own yet but the price is making me reconsider

I own an MVS but I'm seriously considering a MiSTer instead. To me, the MiSTer seems like the better choice. And through some effort you can make an AES stick work with it.
Or you could do like me: Connect your stick to a GP2040-CE board and use my Neo Geo stick as a normal USB stick (with minimal response times).

But yeah, you might want to look through this thread, if you don't already know the MiSTer system well:
>>11954837

To clarify I'd be getting each part from different sellers. From China $340 for the MVS board + supergun + shell, $70 for the 161 in 1 v2 cart and locally $80 for the stick with a bigger replacement balltop. The chinese stuff seems to have been cheaper a couple years ago and I fear it will keep going up in price
>>11973214
in the past I looked into all-in-one solutions to enjoy my old games, but with time I've been getting the individual consoles and learning about their differences in design, components, peripherals etc is a big part of what I like about the hobby. Maybe I'll get an FPGA for those really obscure and failure prone systems

>>11973209 (OP)
Keep in mind that flashcarts have some minor issues. Certain games have some bugs, won't save properly in some games, and some consolized MVS systems won't read certain flashcarts.

I'm buying a 2nd MVS cab(red) to go with the gold cab I have. It comes with a similar multicart, but i may just sell it since i have been building up my original cart collection. I feel like that price for just the motherboard is a bit high, but maybe shits shot up since last I've seen where they were not even close to 100 for a 1 slot board.

>>11973256
Yeah it's a shame, but back before cheaper flashcarts were available I used to buy those 999 in 1 NES carts so I'm familiar with their lack of QC lol, they just shove any ROM they can find on the chinese interwebs as long as it boots

>>11973257
MV-1C boards have gone up precisely because of their use in consolized mods. AFAIK the AES style shell I want only works with 1C models, there's cheaper superguns with horizontal cart loading but they don't look as aesthetic

>>11973209 (OP)
Do it do it do it!

>There will be fewer and fewer seats, and there will be fewer in good condition. The limited number of decks is not in stock for a long time, and the price will be more expensive! Don't miss it if you like it!
Dammit Chang your FOMO is working
>>11973275
Don't push me I'll do it for real!
Which plastic though, solid black is closer to the real AES but clear looks slick and the cart is clear too

>>11973285
Just fucking buy it anon. You know you want it. I just recently bought a ngpc and a game gear with a case and some games for both. Haven't had time to pull them out and give them a proper go, but no buyers remorse here. Just be sure you actually want it. I thought I wanted a wonderswan once. Bought a ff boxed version, played it once. I emulated the whole library and glad I sold it, nothing there, but a neo Geo has almost exclusively bangers.. buy it before you miss this opportunity.

>>11973291
>buy it before you miss this opportunity.
You know it's only going to get more expensive, nothing retro game related is going to dump in price because boomers to Gen alpha all like retro games. They're like classic cars at this point. Values only going up.

>>11973250
>Maybe I'll get an FPGA for those really obscure and failure prone systems
I'm kind of the opposite in view. But I already own an MVS.

I would play pretty much all my systems on the MiSTer, and then I might purchase some arcade systems for the games which the MiSTer can't handle, such as the IGS PGM arcade system. Then I'd pull out my own-made wire-mess of a supergun.

But for sheer convenience I would use the MiSTer for the NeoGeo. The flexibility in video output is one of the best selling points for me.

>>11973285
>solid black
I strongly prefer this one personally.

BTW, remember the Neo Geo Mini that came with those USB-C CD pads with god awful analog sticks. There are sellers on AliExpress that modified them with AES pin-outs and micro switches.

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005008708539238.html?

>>11973323
I saw these too, never played on a gamepad with microswitches but some people swear by them. The shopping cart keeps increasing...
>>11973318
>flexibility in video output
this kit has a lot of options, composite, s-video, component and RGB. HDMI would be nice but that's for flat screens and Neo Geo on flat screens is just wrong

I was wrong, they do use board models other than 1C. This one has the horizontal 1B but the cart slot is connected to the main board through ribbon cables

>>11973209 (OP)
If your decision making involves rearranging your finances or strategizing when to pay off each of your bills, then don't.

If your decision making involves deciding between that, or some sweet-ass headphones that'll never see the sun once you bring it home, then go for it. Have fun.

>>11973209 (OP)
Spend the money on a Mister.

>>11973209 (OP)
>$500 on a consolized MVS
Just buy a regular MVS with CHINA WARNING carved into it for 50 bucks on AliExpress and a cheap supergun. Exactly the same functionality but at a fraction of the price.

>>11973209 (OP)
>>11973250
>>11973268
Anon let me drop some wisdom on you.

You don't HAVE to get a single slot consolized Neo Geo.

That's the beauty of the Neo Geo.

>>11973250
>The chinese stuff seems to have been cheaper a couple years ago and I fear it will keep going up in price
That's because of tariffs KEK. The MVS I bought from China died after a week of use so pay with PayPal and give it thorough testing. And not all the games on those 161 in 1 carts work. You'd be better off with the NeoSD or something.

Consolized shit is gay, just get a real fucking AES and a 161-in-1 cart and you'll be good to go. Then if you want to start collecting carts later you can buy a JGO converter to play MVS stuff too. You should be able to get an AES in good condition for about $400 complete, or spend an extra ~$150 and get one that's been recapped and has unibios installed. Don't forget to replace the cucked stock balltop for the gamepad with a 35mm Sanwa ball.

>>11973214
MiSTer Neo Geo is great, properly reverse engineered from die traced chips. It's good enough for fighting game autists to use in tournaments so that's probably the best seal of approval

>>11973209 (OP)
Nigga just buy it!

>>11973787
>The MVS I bought from China died after a week of use so pay with PayPal and give it thorough testing
Many Chinese are literally just ripping out the boards from 40 year old MVS arcade machines, do zero maintenance or repairs to the board, and sell them to unsuspecting Americans.

They don't care about repairing the board or doing proper maintenance like a collector. Many of these sellers only care that the board lasts long enough to sell to the customer. That's it.

>>11973796
Are MVS to AES cart adapters still retardedly expensive? Or are there newer ones now that are cheap?

pulled the trigger, now to wait 3 weeks for the boxes
Joystick feels good, a bit on the light side tho

>>11973858
>good enough for fighting game autists to use in tournaments
Kek. That truly is a great mark of quality. Nintendo has nothing on this.
>>11973250
Yeah, it's really good to understand the electronics which these machines are using. I got a lot of experience with my MV1F. I got a wired JAMMA connector, then wired and soldered my way all the way up to a working supergun on a TV I had.
The first time I could hear the sounds of Super Sidekicks 4 from my MVS board was a truly great day.

I won't protest you going through those steps I went through. I'm just saying that it lock yourself into a certain way of playing these games (CRT/cabinet). MiSTer doesn't come with that limitation. It's also a lot of money for something that eventually might not see prolonged use.

An alternate plan:
1. Get a MiSTer for playing Neo Geo and all other common console systems. Video output to HDMI is a great feature, as well as game controller compatibility. Also, get yourself an NG Stick and wire up an GP2040-CE to make it into a low latency USB stick. Great first project if you've never messed with soldering.
2. Get a system *NOT* covered by MiSTer to get the tinkering experience you may want to get. Something like the CPS3 (if you like fighters), IGS PGM (for that shmup fix) or a Naomi (for a lot of cool titles). Keep in mind that Naomi isn't JAMMA, so it's a lot harder to make a supergun for/consolize.

The PGM and CPS3 will *probably* get covered by MiSTer in the future, but the Naomi doesn't seem like it'll ever be covered.

...cont from
>>11974901

>>11974791
Oh, shit, was I too late? Can you make a list of the stuff you've purchased?

>>11974172
Define "retarded expensive". They go for about $250. Considering most MVS games are going to run you more than that, I'd say no.

>>11973209 (OP)
>>11973209 (OP)
>>11973209 (OP)

You can emulate it.

>>11974935
epic post bro

>>11974920
Where the fuck are you buying your MVS carts? I got a non-bootleg MotW for 40 USD. My most expensive was Money Idol Exchanger for 120 USD.

>>11974943
>I got a non-bootleg MotW for 40 USD
You're either shitposting, got extremely lucky or you got fleeced. That game typically goes for about $500 with a replacement shell and no shockbox. Most MVS games are going to run you 150-300 at least, with some of the rarer titles like Nightmare in the Dark running into the thousands. Most likely you got fucked and you don't realize it. Just so you know, even if you opened the thing up to look at the board, it's a common practice to use fake chips on real boards taken from cheaper carts to trick people into thinking they're authentic.

>>11974905
the consolized MVS with cables + a 161-in-1 (more like 90-in-1) game cart. It cost around $410 USD with shipping included
>>11974935
already did, for years. Now I want to play on real hardware

btw one of you was talking about converters and it must've got lost between posts. Still, good to know there's games with gutted boards and fake chips, I'll try not to overpay and assume any rare game is a repro

>>11973209 (OP)
Anon, I have that but there are many annoyances with it:
>transparent version isn’t really transparent and looks dull
>component is dogshit, only RGB is worth it
>controller board has some obscure key combos to switch button order and autofire
>random button presses from swapping Neo controllers will trigger those and yes, it affects them too
>no clock battery
>mystery hardware fixes and if they fail they will treat you like a poorfag on neo geo forums and just tell you to get something else
That being said, it’s flawed but fun. I enjoy mine a lot with a vortex multicart.

>>11974920
Thats what I mean. For an adapter it just seems way overpriced, but i guess you can get away with it with such a niche product that not many other companies are making and they know NG collectors are gonna have money to milk.

>>11974954
>You're either shitposting, got extremely lucky or you got fleeced.
We have a Swedish arcade website. This one guy used to arrange for weekly big purchases from a connection he had in Japan. The connection was an arcade reseller, which would accept orders from us if it was big enough. That's how most japanaese arcade boards reached us here. This was *many* years ago. Maybe around 2005?

You may be correct that I actually have a fake. Haven't opened up my cart so I don't actually know for *certain*. But I'm fairly sure it's an original.

>>11974994
Well, if you consider the other path, look into the MiSTer FPGA version. It's like a normal MiSTer but a lot cheaper. Looks like it's the same price as what you got, but the hardware is a lot more flexible:
https://misteraddons.com/collections/kits/products/mister-pre-configured-bundle-with-aluminum-case (this one's sold out now, though)
But it won't be able to play giant cartridges, which is a bit of a shame :/

>>11975093
>transparent version isn’t really transparent
I was tempted but ended up going with solid black, shame I still think it's beautiful when done right
>component is dogshit
bummer. My one CRT only has that one input, I'll have to track another one with composite
>mystery fixes
One of the videos I saw showed they replace old capacitors, and I think I saw something about RAM chips. At least the Aliexpress seller does offer some after-sale support, it wasn't from Shop 917359123456 that disappears randomly
>no clock battery
this one I'm not familiar with, what do you miss by not having the battery? Is it hard to add?

>>11975296
wait I had a brain fart, if component sucks I'll have to get an RGB transcoder or something?

>>11975140
Bud, if $250 for an adapter that lets you play all the games seems too expensive, then I highly advise you not get into collecting for this console.

>>11974791
Should've bought a real AES instead of settling l. You clearly wanted one since you're getting the fake AES shell anyway and it would've cost you the same. Oh well, good luck...

>>11975310
It's not just the adapter. New homebrew NG games are 300-600 just because they expect collectors to play that much, as opposed to actual manufacturing costs to make the cart.

>>11975178
So you got the cart in 2005 and you're wondering why they cost more now?

I'm about to buy this emulator box for $450

>>11975598
>MVS
>6 buttons

>>11975496
You may be retarded, but do you have to be THIS retarded?

>>11975598
The original plan was for the MVSX to come with a set of Neo Geo games. Then release DLC packs for additional official Neo Geo games you could pay for and download. Unico were also going to add online worldwide multi-player with help from SNK.

>Neo Geo
>6 buttons

These Unico f*ckers knew exactly what they were doing. They KNEW people were going to hack it. And guess what HAPPENED? People found an easy hack to add extra Neo Geo roms, and even unofficial 6 button games like Street Fighter.

SNK got so pissed that they cancelled the entire production run. They cancelled all DLC releases. SNK cancelled the planned multiplayer support. They cancelled the rumored premium version with better speakers, better sticks, better buttons, etc. SNK cancelled everything.

Now I can't play King of Fighters online now because some Unico engineer couldn't contain his "emulation autism" and added 6 buttons, and didn't properly add security patches to block the ability to add roms.

Unico are idiots.

>>11973209 (OP)
You should probably just build a MiSTer if you're already wanting to spend that kind of money.

>>11973250
I have an old 130+ in One cart for Neo Geo MVS. Old as in it was in service at an arcade making money before anything like an arcade resurgence started happening. I bought it from the arcade that was using it. They were cheap scum bags that hired morons to repair their machines. I know because I had to fix the system they sold me and the problem was the tech reversed the Blue and Red wires feeding the monitor after replacing the flyback with the cheapest thing he could find. It was a pain for my inexperienced ass to diagnose because the colors were all off except for white. White was still white. It just didn't make any sense that someone could be so retarded to switch those wires until I convinced my self to actually check it because nothing else explained what I was seeing.

>>11975679
Always start with the simplest problems first and work your way up. That's what I was taught.

>>11975641
please be bait

I know it's not actual paid astroturfing but you gotta admit the excessive vouching for MiSTer in online forums is funny

>>11975598
looks comfy and more convenient than a full cabinet, and yeah not having the 4 button layout on an official arcade meant for Neo Geo games is a bit questionable but it opens the door for other systems which is more important. One could always drill an extra hole and add a button to calm ABCD autism

>>11973761
qrd?

>>11973209 (OP)
>One of the few systems I love that I don't own

Earthbound fan excited to play his favourite game for the first time

>>11976235
Normally, people usually take the arcade board from a Neo Geo 1 slot. So they can match the look of the Neo Geo AES with their consolized arcade board.

But some fans have said that's boring. So they take the board from a Neo Geo 6 slot arcade cabinet /Pic related) and consolized it. Now you can have multiple cartridges plugged in.

>>11976247
lol, it sounds that way but I meant played the games in other ways, like on collections or MAME

>just buy an AES bro
>the AES prices:
(this translates to $900 usd in third world dollars)
Some collectors care a lot about stuff like boxes and manuals, I just want the hardware to run. The chinese modded MVS lets me play with usb sticks, use various video outputs and already has UniBIOS so that’s more features for less money

>>11977313
Just build a MiSTer. Or buy one of the cheaper knock offs. You get so much more.

>>11976309
>>11976235
>>11973761
Exactly. I have no idea why anons are obsessed with having a single slot consolized Neo Geo. The consolized 2 slots, 4 slots, and 6 slot arcade boards are so much more fun and interesting. Also they less expensive since they aren't as in high demand compared to 1 slot. Pic related.

>>11977313
>be brown
There's your problem

>>11977942
Single slots are in demand? I should probably fix mine then.

>>11977942
>pic
holy kek. that is legitimately retarded. i am literally lmao'ing at your life if you own that shit.

>>11977958
>holy kek. that is legitimately retarded.
It's awesome. You have no taste. Putting your top 6 games in the console without having to constantly switch cartridges is great. Especially if you have friends over.

>>11977942
That is a very cool homemade console shell. Did you buy it somewhere or make it yourself? Can the 6 slot be used in AES mode and switch between games?

>>11977942
That is sexy as fuck.

>>11977996
NTA, I don't have a six slot MVS just a single. It actually looks pretty cool. In fact way cooler than I ever thought a consolized six slot MVS could ever look.

>>11977942
Honestly get the fuck rid of that Neo Geo X. It's cramping the style of that thick six slot fuck slut of a console. That thing would have wads of cash stuffed into its panties if it danced at a club.

>>11977996
>You have no taste.
you know what i do have? an actual AES, unlike whatever the fuck that abortion is.
>without having to constantly switch cartridges
yeah, that's why i have an sd cart for all 156 games.

>>11978540
>yeah, that's why i have an sd cart for all 156 games.
>argh game #113 is buggy!
>argh game #117 won't save properly!
>gah the memory card won't work with game #134

Sure OK. Enjoy your Chinese bootleg. At least I used real Neo Geo parts and won't have compatibility issues because some China shop threw a 20 year old bad dump of a Rom on it.

>>11978621
Don't certain (older?) games have compatibility issues/bugs when played on the later multislot boards?

>>11978010
>That is a very cool homemade console shell. Did you buy it somewhere or make it yourself?
3D printed. It's great.

>Can the 6 slot be used in AES mode
Not sure what you mean? You mean use AES games on MVS hardware? That's not possible. You can use MVS cartridges on AES hardware (with an adapter), but not AES cartridges on MVS hardware. The AES cartridges are missing some hardware and can only be played on an AES console. SNK did this on purpose.

But it's not a big deal since MVS cartridges are much cheaper.

>and switch between games?
Yes.

>>11978621
i have never had an issue with a single game on my sd cart or multi cart. this is pure cope.
>Enjoy your Chinese bootleg
enjoy your bootleg AES lawl

>>11978631
As far as I know, only the bootleg multi-carts have issues with the hardware. It depends on the revision and is completely random. I've seen them glitch on 1, 2, 4, and 6 slot boards. I've even seen issues where the multi-cart only works in a specific cartridge slot. Like it only works on "Cartridge Slot 3" on a 4 slot board, but it won't work on any of the other cartridge slots. But what do you expect with Chinese made bootlegs? Quality control? Proper testing? Lmao. Never. That's why people still collect the original cartridges. At least you know you won't run into compatibility issues.

>>11978010
>>11978636
>Can the 6 slot be used in AES mode
Yes you can. In the picture it's been done. You can try out what's possible if you have the UNIBIOS in an emulator and holding the magic combination (A+B+C, I think?) during boot. Read more here:
https://wiki.recalbox.com/en/tutorials/games/guides/neo-geo/unibios

The only game I know off which doesn't come with a good AES version is KoF 2001. Yes, you get a menu, so you can start a VS mode, but the graphics aren't there. It was the first Playmore release iirc, so maybe they rushed it...?

>>11978661
this dude's seethe is palpable.

>>11978683
Do all(most) mvs versions have AES modes in them if you have a way to enable them? Aren't some games actually different and you would need both carts, like Magician Lord having different level layouts in the home version?

>>11973209 (OP)
Did you buy it yet?

>>11977942
I love it, multi slot Neo Geos rule and if that same board + shell combo was readily available to buy and cheaper than 1 slots of course people would jump on it, but it's 3D printed vs injection molded.
>>11978047
this is just my theory but I think the chinese got ahold of the molds made for the Neo Geo X and used them to make these console versions, so that's at least 1 good thing to come out of the whole X production

>>11977996
>Putting your top games in the console without having to constantly switch cartridges is great
you know it. I think I saw something like this for Game Boy Advance SP but now I can't find the photo, might've been a different accessory
>>11978727
yep, says it should arrive September 13

>>11978881
The Atari 2600 had an add on that let you have a bunch of games inserted at once.

>>11975663
>SNK comes up with another failed attempt at selling the consumer SD cards game packs
>while basing their business strategy on easily hacked non-commercial emulators
>but UNICO is the bad guy, cause they knew it was going to fail and added kick buttons
you people are weird af

>>11979070
Neo Geo never had 6 buttons you idiot.

>>11978712
I don't know about *all* and about specific differences. But I'm fairly sure all MVS carts come with code which, when booted in AES mode, gives you something that works.

I have no idea about actual game differences, like the one you mentioned (never played Magician Lord) but for most games I guess they're more or less the same. Boot Magician Lord in an emulator with Unibios and test yourself. I'm fairly confident that all ROM dumps you'll find are from the MVS, so maybe the difference was there all along.

>>11979153
>and added kick buttons
>and added kick buttons
>and added kick buttons
nice reading comprehension, retard

>>11979289
How many buttons do the newer SNK games use?

>>11979618
twenny one?

>>11974935
>>11973209 (OP)
yup, use Rage or someshit

>>11973209 (OP)
Do you really need the original hardware that bad in a market this shitty? Just play them for free on your PC. At most you should be getting a Neo Geo controller that can connect to your PC or shitty laptop if you care about authenticity. Save yourself hundreds of dollars.

>>11978636
same energy

>>11975620
Pretty sure they were thinking of the hackers/modders who were inevitably going to crack the system open to add Capcom fighters etc.

>>11975598
i think these are overpriced shit, it would be cheaper to get a ps2+hdd for all the neogeo games collections as well as the snk games that were released on the atomiswave, metal slug 6 being the main one,

an og xbox/xbox360 with final burn for all the other games not on ps2, and a gamecube+ neocd emu for neogeo cd games.

then get a cheap stick and crt.

>>11982059
... it's not though.

>>11978712
the roms for the home and arcade games are one, which version it loads depends on your machine AES bios will load the home version, MVS bios will load the arcade version, if your bios is jap it will load the jap game, english bios it will load the english game, you can tell the english versions were done by the japs due to the translations.

im a poor fag so dont own a real neogeo, ive been playing neogeo on my nds, i converted all the roms from mame or final burn with the universe bios version 4, this allows you to set the game to load either aes or mvs version as well as set the language, it also allows you to change options like lives/credits but more importantly re-enable blood in the english versions of games like metal slug where it would have been censored.

when i can afford a real neo geo first thing i would sort is the universe bios 4, its essential.

>>11982087
>Pretty sure they were thinking of the hackers/modders who were inevitably going to crack the system open to add Capcom fighters etc.
I know what they were thinking, I just think that it would have been nice if during the planning they had heavy rocks chucked at their head until they stopped thinking that. I wouldn't have wanted my SNES Classic to come with Dual Shocks because they knew some day PS1 games could be hacked into it, I wanted a SNES themed device.
There are a bunch of generic 6 button arcade machines you can buy that can play everything. If I am buying an official Neo Geo MVS arcade machine, I want the Neo Geo experience with the proper look and controls. Even if you ignore aesthetics, using the top row of a 6 button layout as B, C, D and the leftmost button of the bottom row as A is just plain inferior to a dedicated 4 button layout.

Did you buy it yet? You better buy it! Just do it like Nike

>>11978881
Okay good! I hope I helped in pushing you to make this purchase. Please keep it pristine and enjoy your /vr experience my brother.

>>11982265
>blocks your path

>>11982185
You might be a poorfag but you are correct, the same ROMs will load on AES or MVS, as well as JP/US. That's why you can pop an MVS game into a converter and it runs in AES mode on an AES. It's actually a little astounding to me that they included the ability for the games to switch like this, since they tried to deter arcade owners from using AES carts by making the hardware different to begin with. They probably figured it wasn't worth the hassel of demanding two seperate ROMs for each game since the number of arcade owners who would bother circumventing the hardware was low, but it's a good thing it happened that way because it led to the freedom we have now.

>>11982990
You have it backwards. You can't use AES carts in MVS machines. No such convertor exists.

>since they tried to deter arcade owners from using AES carts by making the hardware different to begin with.

Again you have it backwards. They didn't want AES owners to use MVS carts on their AES console. At the time, MVS carts were cheaper and more plentiful than AES carts. So they changed cart and pin design to keep MVS and AES Seperate.

Sure an unofficial "MVS to AES" adaptor was eventually made by fans, but that's a different story.

>>11973209 (OP)
ok a few things:
the mvs is "consolized" aka shoved\cramed into a tiny hotbox
if you plan on playing for more than 1hour i would skip.
secondly, the build quality is hot-glue dubious nonsense (check youtube teardowns online)
thirdly, you have NO idea what you are getting from china or what type of work has been done at all, (recaps, refurbs, old parts, etc)

if you MUST get an mvs i would recommend a 1c or 1b board and a HAS supergun or supergun 'minigun' that can properly handly the video signal out


i have ordered the OP photo and have it along side the other options i mentioned.

if you are NOT going to use a crt just get a hypergen genesis 2 hdmi adapter and that will work with most genisis 2 din output superguns from arcade projects forums\ebay etc

the video quality itself on the chinese mvs unit is "acceptable" but i would NOT recommend upscaling that low-fidelity signal to 4k or 1080p+ (it will be static filled and shitty)

for controllers
i do NOT recommend the fragile aes ones outside of hoarding\coomlecting purposes
best bet is to build your own or use a brooks adapter (adds around 1ms of delay, usable)

i currently use sticks i modded myself and i am still working on upgrading to anniversary seimitsu for all the fighters i have on mvs cart.

>>11982265
>>11975620
supports cps 1\2 and other 6 button games with hylomod

the mvsx was great but just a bit too small for 2P, unless its a girl you have already kissed, its too close for comfort
overall the button quality is above most stock 1up caps and is easy to swap\work on..
i enjoyed the 6 button layout so i could remap for neocd layout for fighters
(the names wont match up obviously but its not like youre looking DOWN at them)

easiest and cheapest hdmi solution is the "neo asp pro" with upgraded buttons [although the stock ones are actually quite good and i only did it for aesthetic reasons+had the spare white sanwa somehow already]

>>11983002
>if you MUST get an mvs i would recommend a 1c or 1b board
Nonsense. Plenty of people use 2 slotx 4 slot, or 6 slot boards.

>>11982984
>is 4grand
i of course want one someday but realistically most significant others arent going to allow this
+the upkeep on the monitor\chassis is quite costly... :c
>>11975598
see >>11983005
(same operating system)

>>11983007
i've heard nothing bad things about them and they are almost always more costly than a single slot

>>11973209 (OP)
>161 cart
its OK
but realistically many of the titles will have glitches, cant be beaten 100%, will be romhax, modified games, missing menu settings, etc
for a quick and dirty its acceptable, but if youre into metal slug\shmups etc
blazing star\pulstar were not 100% beatable on my cart so your mileage may vary

>>11982265
>If I am buying an official Neo Geo MVS arcade machine, I want the Neo Geo experience with the proper look and controls.
As a hardcore Neo Geo fan, your picture is making me angry. I don't even care about the hacking of the machine, but the fact the engineers actively added 6 buttons. Almost like they were ENCOURAGING it to happen.

just my two cents
hope that helps

for crt the best thing you can do for your setup is use GOOD cables, be it s-video, rgb, component, etc
even RF and AV can see significant signal distortion improvements by upgrading your cabling

>>11983014
they were encouraging ease of use kek
it supports modern cd layout, vintage cd layout, original neo layout, modified neo layout, basically whatever you want (per game)

however it IS a bit cramped which i mentioned
you either are playing w\ your kids or your wife
way too close for 2 strangers to be nuzzling ;3

>>11982997
I never said you could use AES carts on an MVS. I said rhe ROMs boot in either AES or MVS mode depending on the system used, which they do. This is why MVS carts work on AES with an adapter, and AES ROMs (read: ROMs, not carts) also work om MVS. Also, you are completely incorrect about trying to keep AES users from using MVS carts, this sounds like something you only thinkg because MVS carts are cheaper in the used market today. MVS carts were significantly more expensive than AES carts when they were contemporary, because they wanted to charge arcade owners as much as possible per game since they'd be profiting off the machines. IIRC AES games generally retailed around 200 and MVS games were 600 or so. The reason they're cheap compated to AES games now is because there are more of them in circulation.

>>11983029
>MVS carts were significantly more expensive than AES carts when they were contemporary, because they wanted to charge arcade owners as much as possible per game since they'd be profiting off the machines.

I don't know where yoh got this information, but this is 100% false.

The MVS carts were cheaper. The didn't need fancy packaging, collectibles, and had larger production runs.

The AES carts were more expensive (a few hundred dollars more than MVS), had smaller production runs (less made), and used high quality retail packaging with game manuals/collectibles.

>>11983029
It had nothing to do with wanting to charge arcade operators more money. In fact, back in the day the Neo Geo MVS was one of the most affordable arcade machines on the entire market. There were far more MVS carts on the used market in the 1990s compared to AES carts. There were significantly more Neo Geo MVS machines in the world compared to the small number of AES owners. Consequently the MVS carts were much cheaper than AES. That's what drove people to create the MVS to AES adapters. They wanted cheaper carts for the AES.

>>11983081
This. The MVS carts were significantly cheaper than AES carts, though still much more expensive than stuff like SNES carts or Genesis Carts.

>>11983081
>>11983091
mvs was expensive
aes was expensive

realistically BOTH were v expensive and still are
originally: the chips to produce were costly
now: coomlectors have driven prices back to msrp levels (and beyond for popular\rare titles)

>>11983081
https://www.neo-geo.com/forums/index.php?threads/234042/
NTA but here is a Neo Geo forum thread on it which contains a receipt for 2 MVS games for $450 each and a flyer that advertises a game for $495.

>>11983098
Not that anon but damn. SNK is ripping off Americans at that price. I recall the Japanese version being cheaper. Poor Americans. Lmao.

>>11983098
>>11983141
about right
even jamma conversion kits you could use your existing cab were quite expensive (still are complete)

neogeo was still a good value as you could just swap carts , sold well bc long term it was far more cost effective than having multiple cabinets

anyways heres proofs OP of what i said &
that i actually own the aliexpress mvs aes conversion mod or whatever

>>11983341
usb input was janky & would randomly lock to other "presets" +keep those carried over onto actual aes\mvs sticks until multiple reboots

the buttons are technically mappable but basically zero documentation was included
i had to message the seller directly for more information

>>11983029
Neo Geo uses the same roms. But the carts are built different.

>>11983002
>i do NOT recommend the fragile aes ones
these >>11974791 are fragile?
>>11983346
Iwonder if a PS stick with a USB adapter will get recognized, otherwise I'll go with an AES aftermarket stick