Thread 11979920

Like a CRT! Edition

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>>11967695

I LOVE VIDEO GAMES

>>11979920 (OP)
is all the Thor talk astroturfing or genuine, I can't even tell anymore

>>11979957
specs good, prices good, coming from a reputable manufacturer

why wouldnt people be talking about it?

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>>11979967
Nothing to buy.
>>11979957
Chinks don't really do that sort of thing, at least here. /pol/ is anything goes, but shill marketers don't bother.

>>11979957
>why are people who were asking for a good dual screen clamshell for months talking about a unique dual screen clamshell?

>>11979963
talking about it yes I understand, but the 'ordered mine!' when there hasn't been at least a month of reddit testing

>perfect integer-scaled GBA
Remind me why no one mentions this for the RG Nano?

>>11980042
Because it too small to be actually usable and GBA Integer scale isn't even rare ?

Anbernic employees if you are here I am begging you, please refresh your 40xx Linux devices with the 720p screens used in the RG406V/H. I don’t want the stick on top H model just for more comfortable ergonomics…

What's the best brand?

>>11980083
in my opinion MagicX for trying new things (Xu-10 Dpad, android on the 28, vertical screen on the 40)

>>11980083
Trimui is the best budget brand. just don't use some stupid CFW that fucks up the sleep mode or runs the CPU at max power.

>>11979920 (OP)
I'm still rocking my telescopic controller setup, been thinking of getting a dedicated handheld lately, but can't justify the cost considering that what I've got right now just works well for me. At times I feel like having everything in few devices is ideal, at other times I feel like separating work and play between different devices would be best, especially due to battery and stuff, I might get a dedicated one when the money's less tight, time will tell, though honestly I'd probably miss my tablet's 10' screen...

>>11980042
if you're okay with that then you can integer-scale GBA on any handheld and it would be miles away from that shiit lmao.

>>11980042
I've been fighting myself to not buy one of these things for so long now. I'm not an ambernigger but I fucking love tiny things like this. I wanna slap some psx jarpegs on it....I don't need it I DONT FUCKING NEED IT

>>11980083
They're all shit to be honest because they're all fucking Chinese and shady as shit. I really hope Valve makes a steam deck mini some day with better battery life. They're making some headway with Proton on ARM so maybe it'll happen.

Are there any handhelds I can use as an mp3 player with the screen turned off?

>>11980083
MANGNI

>>11980373
That would be any android based chinkheld. Retroid, Odin, others.

>>11980083
Retroid and Anbernic have solid products.

>>11980373
Find the smallest Android handheld and use it as an mp3 player.

>Android
not retro

>>11980373
anything with MuOS and Rockbox

>>11980373
just get a INNIOASIS Y1, it's an ipod classic clone.

I don't want nor need the thor

Does the RG40XXH still have heating problems? I'm thinking about getting a replacement for my RG40XXV, accidentally dropped it and the screen popped out since it didn't have "muh bezels". That and I quickly realized that verticals aren't really that comfortable with how thin they are.

>>11980568
haven't had any heating problems with mine, but I only play up to Playstation. Might get warmer with Dreamcast and the like

>tfw boughted Thor with DHL
>now realize with P4X it would have taken longer but I may not have to pay duty tax
fuck me that's another 80 bucks down the drain...

>>11980042
>Nano for 1:1/8:7
>Pixel 2/28XX for 4:3/3:2
>RP4P for 16/9 and shit posting in bed
Perfect comfy setup

>>11980612
That's fine with me, I'm not really interested in playing DC games on a cheap $80 CAD device. So long as it doesn't heat up with native PS1 res gaming and is comfortable enough to hold, then I'm fine.

>>11980627
>native PS1 res gaming and is comfortable enough to hold
yeah the ergonomics are good, being rounded helps and the dpad + face buttons are nice. Much better than the RG35XX H which had a stiff dpad

How much better is the RP5 at PS2 emulation over the RP4 Pro? I can get the Pro for over $70 cheaper and all I really want is to play PS2 (and PSP) games, but I don't want to feel like I'm fucking myself over by getting something significantly shittier

>>11980894
It's not that far off. The real reason to go with the RP5 is the screen, which is massively better.

>>11980894
better but not that much. RP5's advantages is the OLED screen is super gorgeous and the snapdragon allows you to emulate PC/Switch/Wii U which is a nice bonus.

>>11980916
>RP5
>emulate switch

chinkshit can barely run super mario wonder without massive frame drops lmao

>>11980950
it's easy to overclock and pretty much all the 2D based indie games run well.

>>11980950
I'd say about half the games I tried ran at full speed. I wouldn't buy RP5 for it but it's a nice bonus.

>>11980042
na-no

>>11980150
Which one is that?

>>11981145
all of the ones that aren't based on the stock firmware, as it turns out the western devs are also retarded and fuck shit up. minui has been known to kill battery in sleep mode, although supposedly it was fixed.

>>11979957
It's all true! Hacker for the federal government, 20 years in the game industry, now a wise mentor for thousands of indie developers. The good guy of the internet.

>>11980785
NTA but I thought 35XX, plus, H and 40XX all used the exact same buttons, wtf

>>11980615
KWAB

oh no no no

My Steam Deck has lossless scaling. Does your chinkheld?

>>11980894
Did that, I regret it. The Rp4 pro screen is tiny, for anything Ps2 o android games you really have to squint your eyes and in some cases, like shooters, you can't see shit. Go for the Rp5 or whait for the Thor. Also bear in mind that Retroid usually announces new chinkhelds during fall so the Rp6 may not be far off.

>>11981432
Integer scaling is the most bare bones shit imaginable, you can use that running a crappy built in SNES emulator on your 20 year old Nintendo DS flashcart.

>>11981432
Don't know and don't care. There's more important stuff.

>>11979957
Dude is a furry faggot, logs leaked

>>11981432
Why would you need it on this tiny screen?

>>11981458
>>11981498
It's for frame generation, retards.

>>11981501
that's not what scaling is, nor what's being depicted in your youtube thumbnail

>>11981507
it's a really stupid name is what it is

>>11981432
Input delay counts as loss.

>>11981501
>Muh fake frames
Weren't you guys making fun of Nvidia chads for that?

>>11981432
I already have a laptop tho

>>11981501
why the fuck would you want framegen on retro games?

>>11982249
Not all games run natively at 60 fps.

>>11981493 spoonfeed me the context pls

>>11982257
framegen gives you a fake perception of your games, 60fps isn't just the visual fidelity, it's alsi gameplay
hhg is specifically about retro gaems handheld, if a handheld (even my steamdeck), can't run a game at full speed, i'd rather not play it

>more FPS than the devs intended
You didn't beat the game

Is it a dealbreaker?

>>11982285
What's wrong with this? It's impossible for it to perfectly account for both systems' screen sizes anyway. If you hate bezels so much, then the black color at least makes them melt into the handheld and become less noticeable.

i am literally gooning to my purple 1TB thor preorder right now

>>11981374
no way that's real

>>11982285
This is where bigblur.glslp comes in!

>>11982409
I went for purple too but at 256gb. Im so ready for multitasking kino

>>11981374
>>11982472
Would not be surprised, Aya Neo has the worst fucking displays, and mixing OLED and LCD screens is a completely retarded move. It might not be that bad if properly configured, their devices have some shitty contrast enhancement feature enabled by default which is completely broken at low brightness. My pocket evo at low brightness looked just like the bottom screen out of the box, and it has a fucking OLED.

>>11980042
even a gb micro is bigger than that.

I want your reviews of using winlator/gamehub for your android handled (and specify which handled you use)

My main goal is more or less to play everything:
- switch, 3ds,ds,wii,ps1,ps2 (not really any games in mind, so maybe not), and all consoles that came before
- old pc games (before 2012-2015), not AAA focused, but still some title in minds
- new pc game, mostly 2d, but some 3d yet not the big heavy titles

also did you try drm protected games (persona 3 reload for example) on steam via winlator/gamehub ?


If anything, I was for going for a steam deck or a oled version, but if a lower cost device can actually fulfill my needs...

>>11982595
The answer is no, dont bother. It's still a work in progress and while progress is good it isnt at the same level as a steam deck or a windows handheld that can play real games. The best compromise is to just stream games to your handheld instead.

>>11979963
>prices good
So it is astroturfing. Thanks Anon.

>>11982619
Thanks for confirming my doubts.
Then I would rather guy for a Steam OLED or a better cheap Linux alternative in the next months (black Friday).

Have a nice day/night

>>11982636
*buy a

>>11981151
Works fine on pakui

>>11981445
Tiny like your pee pee? How is 4.7 small?

>>11982291
But it's perfect for neither, it should at least be perfect for one or the other.

>>11982952
Nobody manufactures 4:3 or 5:3 oled screens yet

>>11983039
Remember when Retroid tried to trick us that 4:3 OLED screens did exist?

>>11983054
That was still very fucked up of them in hindsight. That's something you might expect from some no-name chinese company, and Retroid basically got away with it.

>>11982636
A penny for the guy

>>11983104
There is literally not a single Chinese company that is above pulling shady shit.

>>11983104
>That's something you might expect from some no-name chinese company
They basically still are, they just learnt you don't try that kind of cheap chink trick for a 180+ device mainly bought by people in the west.

>>11983104
So a no name Chinese company pulled something a no name Chinese company would do and got away with it.

>>11983128
Except they didn't learn, they got away with it and most people still think they are some kind of primo brand because they have somewhat slick industrial design and above-bargain-basement price points

>>11982409
>>11982515
Thorbros I got the classic black one but it was a hard decision

>>11983168
1TB as well btw

>>11981432
Why would I need that meme shit to play retro games?

How the fuck do you change the SFTP password on muOS ? The wiki just tells you to go to filebrowser settings but there's no setting menu

>>11983164
Unfortunately until Anbernig steps up there game Retroid has no competition so redditors will continue to fellate them.

>>11982285
For the 3DS I'm honestly just going to scale both screens to fill.

>>11982595
Only know that some people are able to run stuff like crysis on it in vr headsets like pico 4 ultra or Quest 3
Drm protected i assume you'd need to pirate them? Still don't see that as a replacement for the deck, but rather a nice bonus for whenever you get an android device

finally set up my flashcart for my gba sp, and god damn do the dpad and buttons feel better than literally ever chinese handheld I've ever used
do any of these things have good buttons/dpads?

>>11983237
Obviously I meant owning/buying them, I know that nowadays denuvo is actually "working" to prevent piracy
(yeah I know it's more about the scene being a one-man-show with Empress and nobody else stupid/devoted enough to waste time trying to bypass anything instead getting an actual legal job)

I meant drm as how good or bad, windows emulator + drm (slowing performance) is

But since I was stupid enough to buy 3 drm games.

(Persona 3 Reload is alright, but nothing to actually justify buying it instead of emulating an old version with an improvement rom hack. I was expecting additional story content from the original, like Persona 4 Golden and Persona 5 Royal. Not some obscure additional dlc that doesn't seem to feature the main character.)

(Sonic Frontiers is a joke. The bad idea isn't the open world but that they implement BOTW mechanics without even understanding why.)

Then another which was actually worth it, but I would rather not mention it to avoid spoilers of any kind, which I somehow managed to succeed.
___

Unless some rare drm games, I would rather buy no-drm indie games (if they deserve it)

>>11983338
I have a cubeXX. It's pretty damn good but the SP buttons are perfection. They're top 3 for sure .

>>11983345
>Obviously I meant owning/buying them,
Yea i know, it's just that running steam on it might be an issue, so it'd be easier to simply pirate any game that is not drm free

>>11979920 (OP)
>>11980894
>PSP
Best thing for playing PSP games is an actual PSP. I posted a ratty old silver PSP2000 a few threads ago that I was going to put in a new white shell and put a thick glass lense into instead of the plastic. Here's how it went
>new white shell+frame looks great
>new white faceplate splits while removing plastic screen
>fffuuuuuu order pink shell instead
>new pink frame looks wack but faceplate is great
>successfully remove plastic and install glass lense
>surprisingly swap internals without fucking up ribbon cables
>both white and pink buttons are wack and do not fit/ have off-center printing
>use original silver instead
>IT IS ASSEMBLED AND WORKS boot up
>left trigger is stuck on
>X is hair trigger
>open and close another 7 times to fix trigger and shave tiny bits off the X trigger membrane
>reassemble
>IT IS ASSEMBLED with fingerprints on the underside of the new glass
>FFfffffuuuuuu
>patiently take apart for 19th time and clean screen and bottom side of lense with isopropyl and microfiber cloth
>IT IS DONE
It's updated and chock full of isos and emulators and I couldn't be happier. Panel gaps are pretty minimal. The thick glass gives weight and heft. Colors are a bit fruity but it has a My Little PSP vibe. If anyone has any questions about re-shelling these things ask away. Thanks for reading my blog

buttons on the RG34XX SP - still not wild about dome switches but they're better than the RG35XX SP

>>11983338
The trimui model s is said to have a good clicky dpad, but they fucked up everything after because they made it protrude out too much. That's only a good thing for rubber membrane dpads. For rubber memebrane's, anbernic perfected it with the rs97/rgplus. That thing was good with everything I tried. Action, platformers, tank controls, even fighting games. Their rg300 was a close second for rubber, it was just too easy to hit the diagonals.

What's the cheapest good handheld that can run the pc version of PES5/PES6 with mods flawlessly?

>>11983443
>a thick glass lense
Got a link for it? I have a slim PSP with a yellowing screen I'm going to replace, might as well order that thing too while I'm at it.

I want my Thor... NOW!

> dual screen attachment bricked for RP4P
>Retroid shrugging and saying deal w/ it

Lol what a shitshow. I wonder what it will take for Redditors to admit this company is a scam.

Why not just buy an actual 3ds or ds? I don't get it.

>>11983927
screens are dogshit. no fast forward.

>>11983927
A 3DS can't play PSX, N64, DC, etc. and I don't want to carry multiple handhelds.

>>11983938
>Screens are dogshit
Screens on both are fine and you won't have to do mental gymnastics about the retarded aspect ratio they use on these things.

>>11983942
You play video games in public? lmao

>>11983947
You play handhelds at home?

>>11983942
>I HAVE TO HAVE EVERY ROM FOR EVERY HANDHELD ON ONE DEVICE ALL AT THE SAME TIIIIIIIME

>>11982626
It IS good price for current dual screen chinkhelds, suspiciously so to the point you have to wonder about corners cut.

>>11983338
My favorite d-pads are 28xx, 2S and CubeXX in that order. CubeXX has nice membrane on contact shoulder buttons unlike that microswitch crap plaguing everything, so does 34xx but it's activation is kinda weird in comparison. Face buttons go to 34xx and RGB30 (unfortunately every other button on it is crap).

>>11983487
How's the travel.

>>11983942
Nobody is carrying multiple handhelds, just pick one and finish a game on it lol.

>>11982946
It is once you try to play any 4:3 content or any android game that usually expects a phone screen bigger than 4.7 (the text is really small). I would say that for these kind of devices 5.5 is the minimum to have a confortable experience (for 16:9 aspect ratio).

>>11983927
I bought a chinkheld BECAUSE I have a 3DS. Emulators on it are extremely bad (what little runs anyway), ergos are crap, screen is crap, sliders are crap. It's really only any good for crippled GBA.

>>11983976
I don't agree, fucking love my 3ds. I don't emulate tho, if there's something I want to play on another system I just play it on that system.

>>11983938
Spotted the zoomie who thinks people can't play on gameboy advance screens.

>>11983974
I would like to play other games alongside Daytona and Hydro Thunder.

>>11983927
I love my (2)DS but it really does feel dated hardware-wise, even a lot of 3DS titles lag on it. I'd get a new 3ds XL but at that point why not just get a chinkheld that's more powerful with a much more beautiful screen

>a literal notification update video that retroid "fixed" their dual screen latency is 24 minutes long
who the fuck watches this shit

Which chinkheld has a good microswitched joystick like the Neo Geo Pocket?

>>11984005
>Expectations vs Reality

>>11984002
>Muh beautiful screen
Screen creep is absurd.

>>11984005
>>11984095
It’s really just a Thor prototype they decided to get rid of for some extra quick buck lmao

What's the safest purchase for someone looking to emulate the entire PS2 library at most?

>>11984146
NTA and you aren't wrong about screen screep, but I thought the 3DS XL's screen looked like shit even for their time. Even the PSPs had much more vibrant screens at slightly higher resolutions.

>>11984159
MM+

>>11984189
It did.

>>11984159
any of the retroids.

>>11984189
I have the xl and non and I think they both look good, and I have both IPS and the TN

There is also software to recalibrate TN panels to look exactly like the IPS now, but I've never had to use it. I would agree that the psp go screen is superior, but I would never think the Nintendo screens look like shit for the 3ds

>>11984159
Steam Deck unironically. Do NOT fall for the android meme, especially for ps2 emulation.

what was the point of flip 2 existing so close to thor?

>>11984325
if you don't want fucked ergos for a useless second screen

>>11984325
Stresstesting the new hinge for the main attraction.

>>11984336
everyone wanted the buttons closer to the sides though and there's a lot of dead space

>>11984347
>everyone wanted the buttons closer to the sides though
I completely disagree, this made the 3ds dpad uncomfortable to use. moving it closer to the middle was very good

>>11984347
No one who's ever played a 3DS wanted that layout.

>>11984095
kek, now that's some real level of jank, especially with the clear plastic

>>11983968
>How's the travel.
Short travel - almost no travel if you tape the pcb

>>11984243
They looked like shit when they came out. I have both a n3DS XL and a OLED Vita, no one in their right mind would think that ninentdo screens were better than Sony or even “good enough.” Nintendo has a history of crapping on customers in regard to hardware, I can’t understand this recent revisionism about the 3DS screens. They were shit and everyone complained about them, at least here on 4chan.

>>11984460
NTA but I had rose tinted glasses when it came to the old nintendo handhelds. When I first got the DS Lite I thought the screens were godly. It wasn't until 10 years later and I get a hand on a PSP and I couldn't believe my eyes at the difference. Even the 3DS screens were so dogshit looking back.

I'm going to wait until there's a Chinese handheld with a dual 3D OLED screen.

>>11984482
If you upgraded from an AGS-001 to a DS Lite it's understandable why you'd think it's a godly upgrade.

Is latency for emulation always shit on every Android handheld or is it also the case for Linux based handheld and pc?

>>11984093
none

>>11984637
How can that be? Some of these devices cost more than $200.

>>11984686
Hold on, I’ll check my files. *Pretends to descend down a staircase behind a couch.*

>>11984460
Please oint to where I said the 3ds had a better screen than Nintendo. I verbatim said the psp go had a better screen. Y'all are so melodramatic about screens it's crazy though, and that's coming from someone who also owns top of the line oleds. Id never stick my nose up at a 3ds screen.

>>11984696
Oint.

>>11984697
>Ohhhh man he missed a letter! Certainly this will mitigate the fact that I have zero reading comprehension!
Get ointed bitch

>>11984712
Y’all.

>>11984715
Thank you for conceding that you cannot read.

>>11983927
>Can't turbo or rewind.
>Can't save state.
>Can't easily take saves off forcing you to use JKSM or a flashcart and then manually transfer it out instead of just manually transferring it out.
>Flashcart SD card capacity is way lower than what you can use in these devices though I think 3DS ones addressed this.
>If you actually do want to emulate something else even the N3DS is beyond terrible for it.
>You can take advantage of upscaling to enable black magic on a good chunk of games for the DS and to deal with the aliasing on 3DS games.
>DS and 3DS both have terrible ergonomics.
>DS and 3DS both have terrible screens though the screen lottery on the 3DS does mean you have a chance of some good ones.
>Access to DSi games without having to deal with twl_nand.
>Access to RetroAchievements if you're into that which is what a lot of people wanted from the Magic X Zero 40 and it couldn't deliver.

There's a reason why many people want an all-in-one 3DS/DSi/DS device that can upscale a bit compared to buying a 3DS, and even nowadays the 3DSes are going for stupid prices into the several hundreds.

>>11982249
Some retro games look pretty good in 60 fps.
https://youtu.be/ayIVqf_bRZ0

>>11984696
>>11984712
>>11984724
That wasn’t me, but this is. You’re so obviously mindbroken by jewtendo that you’re blind with anger when any critique of jewtendo is levied. Calm down and then respond like an adult.

>>11984729
>Can't turbo or save state
You didn't beat the game.
>Flashcart whinging
Non issue.
>Upscaling and aliasing
Accuracy trumps shit upscaling
>Terrible screens
Zoomer screen creep nonsense, screens are fine
>Ergonomics
Bitch hands
>Retroachievement
Lmao
>Twl_nand
Non issue if you don't have room temperature IQ

Only valid argument could be pricing if you're a poorfag, the prices are high, but the rest of your arguments are literally just cope and mental gymnastics about the underlying price.

>>11984749
Only one angry is you kek. I love my handhelds and emulation is for brownoids

>>11984769
Just because you specifically dislike these aspects does not change the fact that others don't and that's the main reason why a majority of people want a 3DS competitor that is reasonably priced.

>>11984769
Accusing another poster of "cope" after that massive heap of copium is one of the most pathetic things I've seen on this board in a while. Congratulations.

>>11984771
>he says as he posts in chinkheld general
Concession noted.