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Anonymous No.11985184 >>11985224 >>11985227 >>11985249 >>11985274 >>11985436 >>11985703 >>11986204 >>11986226 >>11986553 >>11986572 >>11986647 >>11986690 >>11987130 >>11987173 >>11990875 >>11990980 >>11993214 >>11993843 >>11999090 >>12004180 >>12004448 >>12004797 >>12010432
What was gaming like in the Soviet Union and other communist countries of the time?
Anonymous No.11985224 >>11985249 >>11985293 >>11985303 >>11986690 >>11989396 >>11995535 >>11996424 >>12001406
>>11985184 (OP)
In Poland (and prolly in Russia too) people played picrel: a game and watch style game. It was nicknamed in Poland as "Ruskie Jajka" (russian eggs). Gaming in Poland didn't take off until the nineties tho. For example, a popular console in the early nineties was the "Pegasus" (a famiclone) thorugh which Poles experienced the NES library for the first time. But it's not nienties Poland you're interested in, so I stop there.
Anonymous No.11985227 >>11987185 >>11989916
>>11985184 (OP)
Well they had Tetris, there's that
Anonymous No.11985234
Nonexistent
Anonymous No.11985249 >>11985293 >>11986521 >>11986745
>>11985184 (OP)
Born in 91 so the union was basically over before I was born. Consoles technically did exist—there were simple ones similar to pong and even a Spectrum clone, but hardly anyone knows or cares about them today, and I haven't met anyone who had or even saw them IRL. Remember, half the shit in USSR was hard to find, it's not like you could go to any store and just buy it.
Soviet arcades were a bit easier to come by, but again nowadays hardly anyone cares about those.
>>11985224 already posted our G&W clone, ironically it is perhaps the most famous "Soviet" video game, one that kids actually remember. A lot of people owned it.
And like he said, otherwise gaming only really took off in the 90s, they got Pegasus and Russia got Dendy. Similarly, this is when we started getting something more or less resembling a gaming "industry".
Anonymous No.11985274 >>11986759
>>11985184 (OP)
>Muh dendy
Anonymous No.11985293 >>11985306
>>11985224
>>11985249
This Egg game is actually a copy of a real Nintendo G&W, called simply "Egg". It's in one of the G&W Gallery games.
Anonymous No.11985303 >>11985316 >>11985318 >>11985319
From what I've learned, there were a lot of Famiclones. The Pegasus was a popular one, the Dendy was another. There were also bootlegs of other consoles, and bootleg ports between systems, like Mario on Sega clones, and Sonic on Famiclones.

Something that existed was a disc full of NES games and roms for use with the Playstation. Piracy was of course common, and because remotely decent internet took a while to manifest, good PC games which had local multiplayer capabilities became beloved (Heroes 3 and Worms 2 got quite popular for that).

>>11985224
Oh hey, a Game & Watch style Nu Pogodi game, that's pretty neat and soulful.
Anonymous No.11985306
>>11985293
Woah no way man... next thing you'll tell me my Dendy Junior is also a clone of some Nintendo console
Anonymous No.11985316
>>11985303
>Something that existed was a disc full of NES games and roms for use with the Playstation
Miswrote that. What I mean is an NES emulator and a whole pile of roms on a CD. Not the greatest ever emulation, but the thing ran, and it was around here and there.
Anonymous No.11985318 >>11985358
>>11985303
>Something that existed was a disc full of NES games and roms for use with the Playstation
We also had multicarts with NES/FC games for the GBA. Yeah apparently the GBA can run NES games pretty well. I know Classic NES series/Famicom mini carts exist but to my knowledge they are more like ports and not emulated ROMs
Anonymous No.11985319 >>11985358
>>11985303
Dendy was actually post-Soviet
Anonymous No.11985358
>>11985318
>We also had multicarts with NES/FC games for the GBA
Neat, makes me think of the Game Boy multicarts my parents got me and my brother at the Canary Islands when I was little. "32" in 1.

>>11985319
Oh, you're right, it was. It's getting late, I should sleep.
Anonymous No.11985394 >>11991329
C64 and speccy if you could afford them. There is a "uhh what could have been, were were the king of the world" tier long ass documentary about the local gaming scene if anyone interested:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUqn1OPxtmE
Anonymous No.11985436
>>11985184 (OP)
My mom, who grew up in communist Poland, told me about a dude she knew who's parents were well off, and he got a pong machine, which he probably got as an import from the West. That's about the extend of the gaming that was going on back then (that was probably like mid to late 80s).
Anonymous No.11985703
>>11985184 (OP)

There wasn't any gaming, only Vodka
Anonymous No.11986204 >>11986280 >>11995535
>>11985184 (OP)
There were electromechanical arcade machines, Nintendo game & watch clones and the Speccy clones. The arcade machines were mostly localized clones of the American cabinets but some were entirely own inventions. They existed from the early 70s and all the way to the end of the USSR. Speccy clones appeared closer to the end of the USSR and were pretty rare but the whole assemble your computer yourself thing fitted the Soviet mentality very well.
Anonymous No.11986226
>>11985184 (OP)
Worse than it was in America.
Anonymous No.11986280
>>11986204
There was MSX2 computers at some schools, great machines far above spectrums or PCs of the time.
Anonymous No.11986495 >>11986515 >>11986643 >>11986654 >>11989958 >>11990901
1/2
I grew up in Soviet Union. It was shit.
Soviet Union was isolated and lagged behind by at least 10 years (think of North Korea or to a lesser extent Cuba).
What was there was clone machines stolen from the western countries produced on relabeled copies of western chips that were being manufactured in Soviet Union e.g.: КP1858BM1 - Z80, K1810VM86 - 8086, etc. Those chips often had a military application so you wouldn't just find them in a stores. Computers using them were rare and expensive.
NES clones people bring up didn't show up until collapse of SU. Or possibly they were accessible during the late 80s in satellite countries like Poland or Czechoslovakia where the regime was less strict and where western products got smuggled in.
Here is a decent video about mechanical arcade machines we had
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCI2alXDz4w
Like everything else in Soviet Union those were government provided and typically you would see the same 10 or so machines in every larger city. They lasted until the 90s.
In my school during the 80s there was a network of BK0010 machines all connected to teacher's server. Those were PDP clones. All with the monochrome monitors. We were taught to program in Basic in Informatics lessons. Slightly before the school started or during the breaks kids could play on those and usually there would be a group of boys lined up at the door waiting for the teacher. Like machines themselves, the games too were clones of western games (there was no possibility of entrepreneurship in SU, so games were free, just passed around). I remember Zoom, Boulder Dash, Lode Runner, Desantnik. Here's a video showcasing some:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHTWyyd9Jlg
Teacher would put a floppy with the game in her (yeah, we had a cool woman teacher) server and kids, who typed LOAD"" (or whatever it was) on their machines, would receive it in few seconds (or not, and then the teacher would come over and yank the network wire of your PC and try again)
Anonymous No.11986497 >>11986515 >>11986643 >>11986654 >>11989543 >>11989958 >>11990901
2/2
Naturally those machines were abused nonstop and thus were beat up like a town prostitute. Keyboards barely worked and most often used keys, like cursor or enter or spacebar would often not register or get jammed in.
Either in late 80s or early 90s those BK computers got replaced with Yamaha MSXs. These were a lot better and now kids' monitors were monochrome green, but teacher's server had a color monitor. On MSXs we played Zanac, Metal Gear, Hi No Tori, Head Over Heels, Knightmare, Penguin Adventure.
This was not typical for the largest part of the Union. I lived in the capital city - most kids didn't had PCs at school and I don't recall ever seeing computer classes in 80s Soviet kids movies. Also you wouldn't have one of those machines at home, unless you stole it in some corruption scheme, which did happen.
For home there was a possibility to build your own computer out of components, for example Radio-86RK was such a computer, which schematics got published in Radio magazine in 1986. It was based on Intel8080 CPU clone.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Kb-rW4Nz2o
On those you had to enter programs from "Monitor", i.e. machine code hex values, not even Assembly.
Some variations of Radio86 got industrialy manufactured. I particularly recall Microsha being showcased in some TV programme. The price of 500-600 rub. (several monthly salaries) was quite unattainable for the most people. I never met anyone who had either Radio86RK or one of its clones.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio-86RK
In the late 80s ZX Spectrum clones started showing up and those were cheap and had hundreds of cool games (obviously pirated). This is where Russian PC scene really took off, why Spectrums are so popular in exUSSR till this day - basically, while rest of the world had already moved on to Atari ST, Amiga or Intel 386, speccy clones were the first PCs a normal person could have in Soviet Union.
Anonymous No.11986515 >>11989958
>>11986495
>>11986497
Thanks for sharing, this is actually interesting
Anonymous No.11986521
>>11985249
Yet, Ukraine saw a boom to some extend in software and videogames, if I'm not wrong? Even until today with war and all
Anonymous No.11986523
Anonymous No.11986553 >>11993775
>>11985184 (OP)
anal sex with this device
Anonymous No.11986572
>>11985184 (OP)
In the Soviet Union, the games played you
Anonymous No.11986643
>>11986495
>>11986497
Very interesting. Thanks for sharing.
Anonymous No.11986647 >>11986659 >>11987414
>>11985184 (OP)
Probably better answers will come from still existing communist countries like Laos, Vietnam, and Cuba. If not for the firewall China and North Korea would probably have real interesting answers.
Anonymous No.11986654 >>11987163
>>11986495
>>11986497
Ty for sharing anon

I wonder if the USSR survived what its video game demo scene would have looked like, but I doubt it’d be anything huge due to censorship
Anonymous No.11986659 >>11986662
>>11986647
>China

Oh they make video games all right. They love gooner bait gacha slop brainrot over there.
Anonymous No.11986662
>>11986659
Due to their hard censorship against regular nudity the game developers go all in on foot fetishism. HAIL THE CCP!
Anonymous No.11986690
>>11985184 (OP)
PC gaming was mostly about Speccy clones. Here is an example of a soviet game for it, based on Nikolai Gogol's novel Nose.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXSgPQ-KU5U
On IBM PC compatibles, Prince of Persia, F-19 and Abrams battle tank were popular. I think first soviet commercial game was Toppler, a Perestroika-themed (don't even ask) game inspired by Frogger.
Also, >>11985224 pointed out the handheld Nintendo clones (i still have mine somewhere). Arcades kinda existed but the machines were mostly mechanical. Electronic ones were rare, mostly produced in Ukraine, and they have barely survived. Little Humpback Horse, based on a fairytale, survives in a Moscow museum and IIRC avaliable for MAME.
Anonymous No.11986745
>>11985249
>Soviet arcades were a bit easier to come by, but again nowadays hardly anyone cares about those.
Plenty of people care about pre-90s stuff. Stuff like https://vk.com/15kop is only getting more popular
Anonymous No.11986759
>>11985274
That was post USSR
Anonymous No.11987130
>>11985184 (OP)
Imagine the 1985-1990 era of gaming forced to stagnate all the way up to 1999.
Also a shitload of ROMhacks that made a bunch of random unrelated games into unofficial sequels to NES Mario.
Anonymous No.11987163
>>11986654
A far bigger obstacle to proliferation of Soviet software than government censorship was the lack of commercial entrepreneurship culture in the Soviet Union. There are countless stories about British teenagers who learned how to program in schools and started selling their homemade games for profit before reaching the age of majority. This scenario was impossible in planned economy. Soviet kids did have computer education cources, many knew how to program, but there was very little to do with that knowledge. Only real geeks who wanted to program out of genuine passion would write software with no intent of getting rich from it.
Anonymous No.11987173 >>11996460
>>11985184 (OP)
Games played you.
Anonymous No.11987185
>>11985227
https://youtu.be/hWTFG3J1CP8?si=O37DoiuFSqXDtMm8
Anonymous No.11987298
For piracy, which Nintendo and Sega games were most widely liked in the immediate post-Soviet era? Including third party games and stuff.
Anonymous No.11987414
>>11986647
>Probably better answers will come from still existing communist countries like Laos, Vietnam, and Cuba.
I mean not really, modern internet and smartphones mean everywhere is more globalised, so even countries like those don't have much of a cultural separation from the rest of the world. Vietnam in particular is literally just a regular 3rd world SEA country, I regularly see Vietnamese anons on flag boards like /int/ and /sp/.

It's interesting to imagine though what might've happened if the Eastern Bloc never fell. Perhaps we'd have two entirely separate internets, one used by western Europe and the Americas, another used by the USSR, Warsaw Pact countries, random Soviet-aligned African states, etc.
>11985184 No.11987787
tetris
Anonymous No.11988003 >>11988008
Anonymous No.11988008
>>11988003
Anonymous No.11988291 >>11988386
I was going to link a video by a Russian that tells the story of how slavjank developed in the former iron curtain right after the USSR broke up, but I decided not to because he likes to use wojaks in his videos (not soijaks though, just the basic wojak edited to look like what he's talking about) and this site already has enough of that shit.
Anonymous No.11988386 >>11989940
>>11988291
I think I know who you mean. He's ok.
Anonymous No.11989396 >>11989460 >>11989729
I was born in East Berlin, watched the wall come down as a kid. Pic related was my first time playing any form of video game. This was at a youth centre in my area. It had multiple games, a Pacman clone, a racing game, some shooting gallery thing, a skiing game, these are the ones I remember. As a matter of fact I grew up believing Pacman was an East German thing until I read about its history in a vidya mag in the early 90s. I was completely mind-blown and mesmerised by this machine.
>>11985224
And this was the first hand-held I ever played, must have been 89-90. This is based on an old soviet cartoon that was enormously popular in the Eastern Bloc. Do westerners know about Nu Pagadi at all? I remember being a kid in kindergarten and one day we were sent to a Soviet base outside of the city to meet our 'liberators' lol and they showed us Nu Pagadi in their cinema.

I'm on holiday atm and don't like phoneposting, will be back with more stuff snd details in a few days when I'm back home, hope the thread will still be up.
Anonymous No.11989460 >>11991893 >>11996424
>>11989396
It's Nu, Pogodi. It was the most common one, but there were a couple dozen different games. They weren't exactly cheap I think. I had the slalom one, I remember playing Road Rash years later and when I crashed into some stationary obstacle I'd get reminded of this game. There is an Android emulator for these systems.
Anonymous No.11989543
>>11986497
>These were a lot better and now kids' monitors were monochrome green, but teacher's server had a color monitor. On MSXs we played Zanac, Metal Gear, Hi No Tori, Head Over Heels, Knightmare, Penguin Adventure.
You had me until this.
Anonymous No.11989607 >>11989616 >>11989734
8-bit Atari was the most popular computer in Poland for a while
Anonymous No.11989616
>>11989607
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blockout
probably the first Polish game that got an international release
Anonymous No.11989729 >>11989886
>>11989396
I've always wondered something about the Poly-Play: why, after the fall of the Berlin Wall most, if not all, of the machines were destroyed?
I mean, wasn't there the idea to preserve them or they just went full: "Screw this commie shit! Ghosts and Goblins for all!"
Anonymous No.11989734
>>11989607
This tended to depend on the tech capabilities of the gommie country in question. Countries which could produce the higher end 8-bit micros tended to have higher percentages. Countries who could only reliably produce muh speccy had a higher percentage of that.
Anonymous No.11989819 >>11989845
I always heard it never mattered how well you did everyone alway ma got the same points and it was never the high score. All the games were programmed to have the current leader as the high score and former leaders and communist thinkers as the scores underneath. One of the party leaders claimed to have played Pac-Man for days straight without ever dying, so if you ever got to the kill screen or even talked about it you and your whole family would be sent to a labor camp.
Anonymous No.11989845
>>11989819
>this is what amerisharts unironically believe
Anonymous No.11989886
>>11989729
Somehow, I doubt the bureaucrats of the collapsing Soviet Union had a concept of preserving video games. To them, it was government property to be disposed of.
Anonymous No.11989916 >>11990006 >>11990017 >>11990261 >>11990749 >>11990838 >>11997231 >>12003652
>>11985227
Most soviets couldn't afford to eat let alone afford a computer to play tetris on
Anonymous No.11989940
>>11988386
If you think I'm referring to Warlockracy, you're right. But yeah he made a video specifically on the history of slavjank to break away from his usual format of talking about crpgs.
Anonymous No.11989958
>>11986495
>>11986497
I second >>11986515, thanks for sharing this genuinely informative take. My childhood was mostly in the 90s, so it’s fascinating to hear just how different life was in the Soviet/immediate post-Soviet world. Did the lagging state of gaming tech also reflect most other areas of daily life, or was consumer tech a special case?
Anonymous No.11990006
>>11989916
In the GDR, it was more that while you had a decent income, there were no goods to spend it on. States of the Eastern Bloc had subtle differences they weren't all the same. Either way, computers weren't sold or manufactured as private property.
Anonymous No.11990017 >>11990062
>>11989916
I was under the assumption that Tetris was originally an arcade game, am I wrong?
Anonymous No.11990062 >>11990927
>>11990017
Tetris was originally written by Russian programmer Alexey Pajitnov for the Elektronika 60, a Soviet PDP-11 clone. The first widely distributed version was a freeware port to the IBM PC by one of his colleagues. The first commercially released versions were also IBM PC ports. Arcade versions didn't come until later.
Anonymous No.11990261
>>11989916
This. They had to stand in long lines all day just for one game of space invaders.
Anonymous No.11990749 >>11990927 >>11990989
>>11989916
>Most soviets couldn't afford to eat
Blatantly false. Imagine swallowing propaganda like this and not even questioning it.
Anonymous No.11990838 >>11990927
>>11989916
It was the opposite problem. People were regularly paid cash at work (and being unemployed was illegal) but there was nothing in stores on which you could spend that money. Black market foreign items would go for insane prices and people were desperate enough to pay for them.
Anonymous No.11990875
>>11985184 (OP)
The games played you.
Anonymous No.11990901
my knowledge of gaming in russia comes from this guy Kinaman's videos, very entertaining
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJQr3tnjHlg
and watching their show where bootlegs are advertised as legit products is a riot too
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLA7E2F4261CD950A7
>>11986495
>R-Type
>it's a vertical shooter
>>11986497
those games running on computers with no graphic capabilities are fascinating, found a few more here https://gamesdb.launchbox-app.com/platforms/games/175-apogee-bk-01
gaming on outdated hardware, where all the software is unlicensed. First worlders don't know how good they had it
Anonymous No.11990927 >>11996403
>>11990749
Famines were a thing in the earlier years (and during WW2), but no, most people were not starving for most of the Soviet Union's existence, in spite of the steadily declining economy. Agriculture wasn't always perfect, but it generally trucked along, and there was foreign trade.

>>11990838
There was that, yeah. The majority of Soviet Russian society was propped up by black market trade, because the official centrally planned economy just was not sufficient to meet people's needs.

People didn't starve, and people often COULD get certain goods they needed or wanted, but often it meant people doing each other favors by trading things they (usually illicitly) acquired, which they themselves didn't maybe need, but which they could trade with someone else who needed to get something they needed.

For instance, foreign cigarettes were regarded highly in Russia and were thus valuable for bartering, if someone visited outside the Iron Curtain, smuggling home western smokes was common.
In Eastern Germany, there were periods of shortages of coffee, something which people had grown accustomed to, and they weren't particularly happy with the substitutes, so trades with relatives and acquaintances in Western Germany to get proper coffee was very common (send a gift, get a gift).

>>11990062
I'm glad he was able to get restitution and recognition for his work eventually, particularly with the deck stacked against him. Timeless game, I've been playing Tetris almost every day this summer, it deserves all of its recognition.
Anonymous No.11990980 >>11990990 >>11998230
>>11985184 (OP)
We were all banging it to Welltris when it dropped in the late 80s and early 90s
Anonymous No.11990989 >>11991893
>>11990749
Yes and Mao was a great leader too....
Anonymous No.11990990
>>11990980
Tubis is better
Anonymous No.11990995 >>11991469 >>11991534 >>11992638 >>11993784 >>12001432
He's still alive btw.
Take a good guess on his current alias.
Anonymous No.11991329
>>11985394
When I watch videos about the demoscene, I get the sense that I'm getting a glimpse into the future, despite the fact that much of it happened about 3 to 5 years before I was born.
Anonymous No.11991469 >>11991525
>>11990995
>He's still alive btw.
At 146 years old?
Anonymous No.11991525
>>11991469
Reminds me of a 1972 Monty Python's Flying Circus episode, where some guy starts to think that he is Leon Trotsky and the Soviet officials believe him and bring him to Moscow for a triumphant ceremony. The man would be 93 at the time of original TV airing.
Anonymous No.11991526
The best Russian game in the PS2 era was white wagon.
Anonymous No.11991534
>>11990995
Joe Rogan
Anonymous No.11991893
>>11990989
Sino-Soviet leadership being a bunch of crooks or/and bloodthirsty lunatics who brought suffering to their peoples doesn't disprove what he said.

Soviet Russia had their famines, and grave ones too, but after WW2 this stopped being a thing. By the time people in Russia began seeing videogames, they were long past an era where they would be at risk of starvation.

Similarly, by the time mainland Chinese would start seeing videogames as available products, the ruesome Great Leap Forward was a long time ago. (Hong Kong would see far more videogames and earlier than the mainland).

>>11989460
I wonder if my oldest brother's Game & Watch is still around somewhere? I should go find it.
Anonymous No.11992638
>>11990995
Holy shit, it's Sam Hyde
Anonymous No.11993214 >>11993683 >>12001437
>>11985184 (OP)
We played outside all day doing insane shit instead. It was better than Mario, I can promise you that much.
Anonymous No.11993683
>>11993214
Russian kids did shit like just randomly breaking their backs.
Anonymous No.11993691
Tetris
only Tetris
Anonymous No.11993775 >>11993790
>>11986553
wtf is it?
Anonymous No.11993784
>>11990995
Icepickhead
Anonymous No.11993790 >>11994102
>>11993775
Electric water boiler. It's a thing which heats up water inside electric kettles, except in USSR it was common as a larger standalone device. It could be used in any water container, which was useful when your house had no access to hot water and you needed to wash something or take a bath.
Anonymous No.11993843
>>11985184 (OP)
This is only sorta related. There were games for this thing back in the day if you want to look them up and there are emulators for it too I think.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGR-0vRoX-A
Anonymous No.11994102 >>11995291 >>11996315
>>11993790
Like how the Soviet troops who invaded Germany at the end of the war had never seen indoor plumbing, and thought their German toilets were potato washers
Anonymous No.11995291
>>11994102
Seems practical until you try it
Anonymous No.11995535
>>11985224
It's based on the Nu Pogodi cartoon, a sort of russian equivalent of Tom & Jerry.
>>11986204
I remember reading somewhere they removed high score tables from arcade games because competition was such a corrupt capitalist concept.
Anonymous No.11996296 >>11996313
When talking about USSR, you have to remember that it lagged behind the First World in terms of pop culture by about a decade. Soviet 1980s looked like American 1970s and public perception of video games as a concept was on a similar level. Tetris, a legitimate outlier, happened from professional mathematicians goofing with minicomputers, similar to how games like Spacewar! were created as experiments on visualising physics calculations.
Anonymous No.11996313 >>11996317
>>11996296
>public perception of video games as a concept
Was that even a thing outside the US and Japan until late 80s?
Anonymous No.11996315
>>11994102
Anon they weren't Turks.
Anonymous No.11996317 >>11996331
>>11996313
In Europe yes
Anonymous No.11996331 >>11996416
>>11996317
To what extent?

Tetris wasn't an outlier, if anything it was pretty basic to my eyes compared to other games I saw people play. I remember specifically thinking that it looked like crap compared to games with little characters jumping around. People were well aware of video games in the Soviet Union by late 80s. The Pelevin novella that gets linked from time to time here was published in 91 and still takes place in the Soviet Union, probably written in 90.
Anonymous No.11996356 >>11996358 >>11996368 >>11996371
What arcade fighters did commies like in the 90s. Were they obsessed with the King of Fighters like Mexicansre w, etc?
Anonymous No.11996358 >>11996379
>>11996356
What
Anonymous No.11996368 >>11996412
>>11996356
>arcade
>commies
I heard that Hungary had a rich arcade import scene, unlike many other Eastern European countries where arcade cabinets were relatively rare.
Anonymous No.11996371 >>11996380
>>11996356
They were obsessed with Ultra Hools Street Fighting.
Anonymous No.11996379 >>11996380 >>11996384
>>11996358
Did post Soviet east euros like kof like Mexicans and south Americans or did they play street fighter and mortal Kombat like westerners did?
Anonymous No.11996380 >>11996437
>>11996379
See >>11996371
Anonymous No.11996384 >>11996419
>>11996379
Mortal Kombat was gigantic in Russia thanks to Mega Drive ports. Street Fighter probably had more recognition as a Jean Claude van Damme movie than a video game.
Anonymous No.11996391 >>11996396
Iron curtain bros how accurate is this?
https://youtu.be/q1u7XZ9c8fI?si=gEe43f77rEChhWTM
Anonymous No.11996396
>>11996391
Inaccurate because it's from 6 years ago.
Anonymous No.11996403 >>11996439 >>11996442
>>11990927
>In Eastern Germany, there were periods of shortages of coffee, something which people had grown accustomed to, and they weren't particularly happy with the substitutes, so trades with relatives and acquaintances in Western Germany to get proper coffee was very common (send a gift, get a gift).
As a means to avoid contact between BRD and DDR via coffee smuggling, the gommie government undertook considerable investment in the Vietnamese coffee industry, which had massively decayed in the years following the North's victory. Vietnam's coffee industry is built upon the collaboration between the GDR and Viet governments.
Anonymous No.11996412 >>11996450
>>11996368
Hungary had a PC dev industry during gommie times. There are a few PC games from the late '80s (distributed by Western publishers) which list some Hungarian dev. Hungary was also the only gommie country to host F1.
Anonymous No.11996416 >>11998509
>>11996331
Arcade games since late 70's and Atari 2600 and personal computers since very early 80's
Anonymous No.11996419
>>11996384
>Street Fighter probably had more recognition as a Jean Claude van Damme movie than a video game
Extremely bizarre
Anonymous No.11996424 >>11996454
>>11985224
>>11989460
I remember these, my mother brought it back from USSR.
My mother escaped from USSR to live in Europe and after the beriln wall came down she started to get back to meet family and grab stuff she couldn't bring back.
I remember she brought back these and some VHS of Doktor Aybolit and Cпoкoйнoй нoчи, мaлыши! and many other stuff of USSR Culture that i grew up here in Italy.
Good memories.
Anyway from waht I know about Soviet and Communist IG gaming in those years, it was more in china with SUBOR that lead the market.
Anonymous No.11996437 >>11996449
>>11996380
Is that a game or do you mean real life hooliganism?
Anonymous No.11996439 >>11996459
>>11996403
Vietnam got their modern coffee industry built for them by East Germans for free. They agreed that East Germany would own half of their yearly product for about twenty years starting from the first harvest, but by the time coffee plants started to bear fruits, East Germany had ceased to exist and their contract was void.
Anonymous No.11996442 >>11996459
>>11996403
Neat. Viet coffee is delish. How did that stop all the other shit from getting smuggled into Dance Dance Revolution from the Bundesrepublik?
Anonymous No.11996449 >>11996457
>>11996437
What do you think?
Anonymous No.11996450 >>11996483 >>11996489 >>11996748
>>11996412
Am I remembering this right that central Europe actually had fairly ample access to C64s and PETs and stuff in the 80s?
Anonymous No.11996454 >>11996471
>>11996424
How'd she escape? Sleep with a Soviet General?
Anonymous No.11996457
>>11996449
I just asked if they liked Street Fighter...
Anonymous No.11996459
>>11996439
Pretty much yes. The first harvest was in late 1989 IIRC, and, by the time it got processed, there was no longer any East Germany to send it to.

>>11996442
It obviously didn't, but shit coffee was a very common complaint (and smuggling it was widespread), so the gommie gov't decided to do something about at least part of the issue.
Anonymous No.11996460
>>11987173
Made me smirk
Anonymous No.11996471 >>11996478
>>11996454
Well not escaped like in teh movies, escaped like many other women of that time..... Fuck a western man that came to work or visit. Yeah my mother married my father jsut to come over the beriln wall, to put it simple at that time if you married or have a children with a european you could ask to leave the USSR and so she did in 1987.
Anonymous No.11996478
>>11996471
>1987

Oh, that was Glasnost era anyway
Anonymous No.11996483 >>11996752
>>11996450
IIRC Jack Tramiel (who was Polish), wanted to bring cheap computing to Poland, so he offered quite generous rebates on Commodore machines to the Polish gov't.
Anonymous No.11996489 >>11996752
>>11996450
Commodore dumped the entire unsold Commodore 16 stock in Hungary, resulting in the scene for this platform being dominated by Magyars.
Anonymous No.11996657
Dear
Anonymous No.11996748
>>11996450
Commodore 64 was pretty popular around Europe as a whole, Germany, Sweden, Britain, Spain, Finland, etc. I can imagine it catching on in the Eastern Bloc as well.
Anonymous No.11996752
>>11996483
>>11996489
Makes sense.
Anonymous No.11997231 >>11997539 >>11998482
>>11989916
You realise the breadlines thing was AFTER the Soviet Union, right?
Anonymous No.11997240
>>11997218
lol youre brown
Anonymous No.11997246
>>11997218
Should have thought about that before being born lmao
Anonymous No.11997257 >>11997539
>>11997218
Starvation isn't a major issue in the US today, we have soup kitchens for the homeless and government assistance programs that ensure anyone who has little or no income can still buy food (provided they're capable enough to sign up for it)
Anonymous No.11997539 >>11997570
>>11997218
Is this a shitpost? That people had to line up to get bread means that there wasn't enough bread and it had to be rationed, and frequently, people did in fact go home emptyhanded because the bread ran out. Sometimes because of corruption and black market trade, sometimes because agriculture couldn't hack it (which in large part can be blamed on Lysenko, can't grow enough crops if you're doing it fucking wrong).

Soviet Russia's history was definitely not defined entirely by starvation or anything, but there were some dire famines, and shortages of food were in fact a reoccurring problem.

>>11997257
The last notable famine I can think of in the U.S would have been for the POWs in the Andersonville Prison Camp during the Civil War, so the 1860s. Maybe there was a bit of starvation during the Great Depression? I haven't heard of any though.
There was also the very earliest English colonists getting brutally buttfucked by harsh winter and not knowing the land, but that was before America was a nation.

>>11997231
Breadlines were a thing through multiple periods of Soviet Russian history, such as in 1931, 1944, and occasionally throughout the 20th century up until its dissolution in the 1990s.
The truly awful famine conditions you'd see in the 1930s and WW2 would stop being a thing as time went, but agriculture and industry would often just fail to deliver enough, so there would be periods where you had varying amounts of empty shelves in stores, in which case things like bread would be rationed out for breadlines.
Not always, but periodically.
Anonymous No.11997570 >>11997895
>>11997539
>Maybe there was a bit of starvation during the Great Depression?
Oh there definitely was, it's why people loved the New Deal so much.

And shortages were endemic to a planned economy. If your boss gets promoted based on his output estimates, he's got every incentive to inflate those numbers, and when it turns out you can't meet them, presto! Shortages!
Anonymous No.11997895
Third try. Now I'm going to bed.

>>11997570
All of the shit about exploitative managers is kind of way downstream from how a centrally planned economy is fundamentally physically impossible based on its opening premise.
A centrally planned economy, or command economy, means that the price of all goods are not determined by buyers and sellers having to come to some sort of agreement (even if that could sometimes be unfairly exploitative), rather, all of this is supposed to be determined by a central committee, to ensure that no unfair exploitation happens.

Consider that at the time that Russia started doing this, there's estimated to have existed some 22 Million different goods in the country. +22 000 000 different goods which would at the absolute minimum have their prices determined daily for this to have a snowball's chance in hell of NOT seizing up like a grandfather clock full of wet sand, and for this information to be provided instantly to everyone across this massive nation so that people can operate accordingly.

Even with modern computers, internet connections and everyone having smartphones, this becomes completely logistically impossible, a central governing body could never hope to keep up with the constantly changing realities of an entire nation's industries and economy.
The concept of a command economy is more of a wild sci-fi pipedream than ideas such as Dyson Spheres, it was never a matter of people's honesty and conscience ("... if men were angels!"), it's that we as a species are not omniscient superhumans.
Anonymous No.11998087
Ja
Anonymous No.11998230
>>11990980
what did Gorky say??
Anonymous No.11998482 >>11998497 >>11998645
>>11997231
Russian boomers are still butthurt about George H.W. Bush's chicken legs ("Bush legs"), as in chicken meat imported to Russia from the United States.
Anonymous No.11998497
>>11998482
I would be too if I had to eat bleached meat that was made in a factory staffed with Mexicans.
Anonymous No.11998503 >>12000746
Btw off-topic thread
Anonymous No.11998509 >>11998635 >>11998659
>>11996416
Pong machines and game and watch type stuff were before 2600.
Anonymous No.11998635
>>11998509
>game and watch type stuff were before 2600.
Such as?
Anonymous No.11998645
>>11998482
>Russian boomers are still butthurt about George H.W. Bush's chicken legs ("Bush legs"), as in chicken meat imported to Russia from the United States.
Which were usually confiscated by local mobsters and resold at disgustingly high mark-ups. What most vatnik boomers remember about the bad old '90s was actually caused by the ex-KGB and mafia deliberately fucking things up.
Anonymous No.11998659 >>11998845 >>11999158
>>11998509
>Pong machines
Did they even reach Europe?
>game and watch type stuff
Those appeared after the Atari
Anonymous No.11998845 >>11999015
>>11998659
>Did they even reach Europe?
There are literally >9k eurojank pong clones
Anonymous No.11999015 >>11999053
>>11998845
Just like all the American Pong machines, then, many which were also janky. The really early days of vidya are very quaint.
Anonymous No.11999053
>>11999015
Jank on a chip is jank on a chip. It was usually just one number or letter in the part marking that distinguished whether it was PAL jank or NTSC jank.
Anonymous No.11999090
>>11985184 (OP)
IN AMERICA PLAY GAME YOU GET TO END OF LEVEL AND BEAT THE MAYOR, IN SOVIET RUSSIA MAYOR BEAT YOU

IN AMERICA WHEN DONE WITH GAME SYSTEM YOU SHUT IT DOWN, IN SOVIET RUSSIA SYSTEM SHUTS DOWN YOU
Anonymous No.11999158 >>12000747
>>11998659
Poland had Polska Gra Telewizyjna (Polish video game) Elwro/Ameprod tvg-10. It was a pong machine and it was produced and sold in late 70s and 80s. About 100k units were made so it was kind of big deal for that time.
Anonymous No.12000640
IN SOVIET /vr/, BOARD POSTS (You)
Anonymous No.12000746 >>12000928
>>11998503
Oh please Tovarish, don't report us to the Politjannieburo!!

Личнo я чacтo иcпoльзyю эти cмaйлики :P -_-
Anonymous No.12000747 >>12001132
>>11999158
What were communist CRT monitors like, anyway? Did they catch on fire if left on for too long like Russian television sets?
Anonymous No.12000928
>>12000746
We have no choice, Anon, this thread is counterrevolutionary!
Anonymous No.12001132
>>12000747
Never heard of tv related fires. Good portion of polish tv sets were made by Polish unimor company so not all were Soviet made and maybe that is why fires weren't a thing. They just took some time to start showing proper picture after turning on. Something with heating on the tubes and such.
Dave No.12001406 >>12001418
>>11985224
You didn't have Vietnamese selling all sorts of famiclones and wild ass cartridges?
Anonymous No.12001418
>>12001406
The Pegasus is a Famiclone which was either made in China and exported to Poland, or it's a Polish made copy of a typical Chinese Famiclone, I forgot which it was, but either way, they certainly had that 8-bit goodness going.
Anonymous No.12001432
>>11990995
gabe newell
Anonymous No.12001437
>>11993214
might I ask what brings u to a retro game board
Anonymous No.12002310
Grim
Anonymous No.12003276 >>12003295
How do I patch KDE2 under FreeBSD?
Anonymous No.12003295
>>12003276
Isn't OpenBSD better?
Anonymous No.12003629
I had a Sovok teacher who was an academician and he said that bootleg copies of text adventures were very popular in research institutions. He said that the character encoding was kinda fucked up and so there was some decoding you had to do as a user if the system mangled it into bad Cyrillic.

He says that’s how Tetris originally got passed around, too. He also had a fun story about Soviet TV’s leaking so much radiation that you could tune a nearby TV to the signal leaked from another one, which came in really handy once the ‘90s started and people started getting Dendys and cable TV. You just pushed your TV against the same wall or a metal beam and you could essentially stream your neighbor’s gameplay.
Anonymous No.12003652 >>12003703
>>11989916
The average Soviet citizen had almost the same caloric intake as the average American.
Anonymous No.12003703 >>12004063 >>12005130
>>12003652
Not him, but at which points in time?
Anonymous No.12004063
>>12003703
>at which points in time?
When they're eating
Anonymous No.12004180
>>11985184 (OP)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKzLmMspjIk
Games start at 1:14.
Anonymous No.12004448
>>11985184 (OP)
Tito was obsessed with achieving parity with the West, so he imported a lot of chips and even tried to fab some Z80’s. This meant that you could get Z80’s or 6502’s at the cost of a year’s salary or even try to get them on the black market. There was a government approved magazine for owners of the “Galaxy”, which was kinda like the BBC Micro except lower specs and you had to build it yourself.

The biggest advantage was that there were no IP laws because socialism so if you were able to save up and were smart enough to build a Galaxy, the government would give you free programming books and broadcast pirated software over the radio after the evening news for you to record onto tape.
Anonymous No.12004797
>>11985184 (OP)
>этo твoя игpa, тoвapищ
Anonymous No.12005130 >>12005140 >>12006334 >>12006354
>>12003703
50s-80s they were fine. A CIA report shows that they were well fed even in their decline period in the 80s
https://www.cia.gov/readingroom/docs/cia-rdp85m00363r000601440024-5.pdf
Anonymous No.12005140
>>12005130
Thanks.
Anonymous No.12006334
>>12005130
>Generally held nutritional standards suggest individuals need fewer calories, less meat, less sugar and more grain to stay fit.
Isn't the opposite generally considered true nowadays? Too much sugar and calories are still bad, but most people eat too many carbs and not enough protein?
Anonymous No.12006354 >>12006435 >>12006503
>>12005130
>Commie trusting the CIA
>The CIA document cited still admits the Soviets had a less diverse diet and still had less calories overall
Tankies need to be shot.
Anonymous No.12006435
>>12006354
Yes I trust the CIA on intelligence and recordkeeping, not acting benevolently
Anonymous No.12006503
>>12006354
>Soviets had a less diverse diet
i guess (You) havent seen how many ways one can make buckwheat into a different meal
god that stuff sucks
Anonymous No.12008476
Бaмп
Anonymous No.12009963
Technically post-Soviet but this is an interesting documentary about the Dendy: https://youtu.be/pDCW_hXrU1E
Anonymous No.12010432
>>11985184 (OP)
Games are a capitalist thing