Thread 11989746

Quest 64 > Parasite Eve

It's good, far better than people give it credit for, but it wasn't anywhere near a masterpiece. Parasite eve was. This is incredibly weak bait.

>>11989746 (OP)
so true bestie, playsissies on suicide watch

>>11989754
/thread
neo-/vr/ is beyond savaging

It wouldn't surprise me. Square games don't really play good.

>>11989746 (OP)
I gave PE a try but it sucked. Maybe I should play Quest 64 next.

Why does vr hype up shitty games? A game isn't good just because it existed in your childhood

Been a while since your last PE spam thread

>>11989802
Honestly, I think a lot of people who rave about Sqaure games just like the art and the stories and haven't really tried playing them to completion.
They don't play super good. Same with a lot of JRPGs, to be fair. Same with Earthbound and SMT.

>>11989802
Quest 64 is terrible. Giant hallway with no story, you can still get lost due to the camera and the samey environment. Skill system is the only interesting part.

>>11989746 (OP)
any game with similar combat to Quest 64? Always felt like it could be amazing if tweaked a bit.

>>11989903
It's literally Dragon Quest I on N64 with even better combat.

>>11989754
Pretty much

>>11989802
Just because you don't like it doesn't mean it sucks, retard. PE is great because of the setting and the general vibe of the game along with it being a truly unique blend of rpg style combat with RE like mechanics.

>>11989746 (OP)
Parasite Eve looks incredibly boring.

>>11989802
>Why does /vr/ hype up shitty games?
>anyway am going to play Quest 64 a universally dislike game but OP said it's good and i trust him!

>>11990049
There's a point to be made that "universally hyped games" are often games that got sucked off by magazines because they had good pre rendered graphics or something, while "universally reviled games" are often actually fine, and the internet just arbitrarily decided they were bad, like 20 years ago.
I remember the days when Megaman Legends and MGS2 were still considered broadly bad games, so I'm very open to reappraisal.

I think the thing about Quest 64 is it's just very one-note and uninteresting. I don't think it's strictly a bad game at all. People decided it was a bad game because it wasn't FF7.

>>11990096
>I remember the days when Megaman Legends and MGS2 were still considered broadly bad games
and they are, other nostalgia fags no one cares about 3D Megaman, and MGS2 is a poser-core slop there is a reason why Konami skipped it and went to remake MGS3 (the game people actually like)

>>11990096
>People decided it was a bad game because it wasn't (names a bad game).
???

>>11990114
Legends is a perfectly worthy (if rough) game that people didn't respect just on the basis of it not being Megaman X, and MGS2 flat out plays a lot better than MGS1.

>>11990115
Regardless of what you feel about FF7, it was insanely hyped, and had an interesting vision that caught people's attention.
To what degree FF7 is even a good game is a whole other question. Is the combat good? It didn't feel great, based on what I played of it. The game also did constantly annoy the hell out of me with the random encounter rate. The fact that they remade it as a whole other genre says a lot about how much people value FF7 as a game, as opposed to an experience.

>>11990115
>this overhyped but still very good game is bad, actually
never change, /vr/.

Parasite Eve is still incredible.

>>11989746 (OP)
The only thing quest 64 has going for it is the music and art style, the actual 'game' part of said video game is the worst part of it.

>>11990364
sounds like a jrpg

>>11990378
bro, that guy almost died...

The only thing parasite eve has going for it is the music and art style, the actual 'game' part of said video game is the worst part of it.

>>11990096
It had a lot of really cool ideas, the magic combining system was awesome but sadly unbalanced, the presentation/music/etc was garbage, the inventory system was ...strange... and so on but there was a blueprint for a very good game there. I've seen a romhack that fixes some of those issues, interested to see how much of a difference even rebalancing the elements makes.

>>11990387
I thought he did die

>>11990096
Quest 64's biggest issue is that it's obvious that they cut a shit load of stuff and the world feels empty as fuck. The atmosphere is actually really charming though because the game gets pretty creepy later on.

But this is coming from someone that played it during the n64 era as a kid and hasn't played it since. I was also super obsessed with the game for a hot second and had printed out a guide and shit and was all delving into the lore on gamefags.

>>11990128
FF7 is an amazing game. What you're annoyed about just makes it obvious that you don't like RPGs in general (or didn't play it enough to where it began opening up with options and stuff).
Also
>The fact that they remade it as a whole other genre says a lot about how much people value FF7 as a game, as opposed to an experience.
All this says is that SE is a bunch of retarded hacks because not only did they ruin the combat but they fucked with the story to make it actually a sequel because no one there wanted to actually work on a remake and refused to suck it up and do it anyways.

It's a dogshit argument that reveals your utter lack of knowledge on the subject.

>>11990129
>Kino moegod poster

>>11990386
>He's only played squareshit and brap of fire
Most jarpigs have shit music too. Art only got interesting for them in the 5th and 7th gen. Crpg's looked better in the 4th and 6th gen

>insecure nintentroons reached the point when they think bottom of the barrel shovelware garbages are masterpieces
Grim. I get they are forced to play the 5 good games they got for all eternity but this is just sad.

>>11990391
Hate this take. I love Parasite Eve's gameplay the most about it. Well...maybe the actual kind of gnarly body horror it got up to is actually the best part

>>11991446
>Troon as an insult when he's playing a femoid
>He says, when op is comparing two pieces of shit
If it was lufia 2 vs ff8, your post would make SOME sense. Sega has to be the one console maker with rpg's not invented for story fags in mind

>>11991451
Done better in vagrant story, but i can admit atp makes sense here.

>>11991460
>Done better in vagrant story
Haven't played it.

>>11991429
It still has a lot of atmosphere. I wish there was a romhack that expanded the game.

>>11989746 (OP)
holy based
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WjvglqMftG8

>>11991436
I have enjoyed RPGS.
I definitely struggle with your bog standard JRPG, where the the combat just wants you to mash "attack" over and over, and the game is throwing random encounters at you every two seconds.
I tend to have more fun with deck builders, or games that have more active reaction based stuff going on in the gameplay.
If it's so basic I'm not even making choices or being challenged during gameplay, am I even really playing?

>>11989746 (OP)
I like tacos better than football.

>>11991446
you don't understand what shovelware is. It doesn't jut mean any game a magazine didn't tell you to buy.
Quest 64 was actually ambitious and got scaled back. It's the opposite of shovelware.

>>11989746 (OP)
Quest 64 felt like the rough outline for a great kiddy rpg that never got fully fleshed out due to budget not meeting the scope. It has its highlights, namely music, art, monster design and the core battle system (although the skill tree itself is really unbalanced)
It's one of those "mediocre but charming" titles you play as a kid and forgive its flaws

>>11992743
I do have a fondness for it, simply because it has such an early N64 feel about it. It's like the RPG version of Mario 64. That's entirely aesthetic, and has no bearing on the gameplay, but I'm into it.

>>11990096
>People decided it was a bad game because it wasn't FF7.
Or the fact N64 was so barren with JRPGs, some Jap-inspired Eurojank was all they gotten to complete with the PlayStation and Saturn.

>>11992814
Yes, but that isn't addressing the game for what it is. It's treating as if it's the answer for everything on the Playstation, which obviously. it wasn't going to be.

Quest 64 was the Golden Sun of N64 RPGs
An objectively overall flawed RPG that's defended by the most deranged sect of Nintendo fan, so much even other Nintendo fans look down on them; also the game(s) having the tendency to be shilled and beaconed by some fatass Smashtard plants on Trashboards or Shitter.

If you want a good N64 JRPG that isn't MARIOPOKEMON&ZELDA(notarpgbtw), play the following:
>Robopon 64
>Ogre Battle 64 (TRPG)
>Shiren 2
>Hybrid Heaven
>SRW64
>Onegai Monster
>Zool
and some games with very dense RPG elements like Custom Robo, Flying Dragon, and just any Goemon game.

Yes, the N64 had JRPGs, just not as many hits or what's so ever; and most of them didn't come over because Yamauchi's favorite CALIFORNIAN WeiMariner "Howard Lincoln" and other NoA marketers refused to put a budget on any of these games to be brought over unless they're getting rebranded into Pokemon garbage.
This is also why the best era of Fire Emblem games stayed in Japan until the GBAbabby era came forth and we wouldn't have gotten Mother 64 anyways due to the fundie idiots running the show at NoA.

You deserve all the slander and hate you get, fuck you bitches.

>>11992915
>unless they're getting rebranded into Pokemon garbage.
R.I.P. bozo

>>11992938
They must've seen Panel De Pon as a satanic franchise or something.

>>11992938
Still the greatest romhack ever made.

>>11992915
Golden Sun is really cool though. Like sure you might not be a fan of the dialogue but the world building in the game is really great, especially in The Lost Ages. I've never seen a setting outside of Wheel of Time use the magic system so well to explore different in world cultures and see how they would view it and interact with it differently.

>>11992852
It is treated as the only answer because it is the only answer. Most people get turned off by Aidyn purely because of everything but footsteps being in silence when it isn't shitty midi sounding stuff. The other game which could be called an RPG without using weasle wording about it is Oghre Battle which would be excluded from seriously being compared to a a game like FF7 and instead be compared to FFT.

>>11993360
how about the other game that is an rpg?

>>11993360
The whole point I'm making is you should stop comparing it to every game on the Playstation, and just take it entirely on it's own terms.
If you wanted to play Playstation games you should have bought a Playstation. No point being mad at Quest 64 because of that.

Also, Hyrbid Heaven is "the cool one", while Paper Mario and I guess Custom Robo are the more straight forward good games on the system. There's other stuff to play.

>>11993382
Nta, but yeah. That's way better than queef64. I wouldn't say it's as good as the PlayStation final fantasies, but it's definitely the shining star for N64 RPGs.

>>11993382
This is for people who don't actually like J and RPGs for the matter, also responsible for making Mario fans act like autistic Sonic fans.

>>11993897
Partly Nintendo's fault for baiting the fans into buying SMB3 but paper.

It's a fun game worth playing for the environment alone which are fun to explore, and the graphical style is the closest thing we ever got to "Mother 3 N64".
I also appreciate how the combat isn't just "spam X to win", that is unless it's the late game and you looked up what to upgrade in order to become invicible. The balancing varies depending on what you upgrade indeed.

>>11990196
I will now download your game from that dead website using that one weird trick that I hope still works

>>11993897
JRPG fans just cry whenever a game isn't straight spreadsheets and waifus, so if you're upsetting them, you're usually doing something right.

>>11992915
>actually recommending zool
Quest mogs all of that shit except ogre battle and shiren.

>>11994312
>Jarpig fans cry when [Describes paper mario to a T]
Mario jumpos are jot sending their best

>>11994335
Zool and hybrid heaven shits on quest. Stop being retarded. Shiren is kino tho.
>Ogre
Completely shit series for people too stupid for warpigs. They're only better than goyslop fantasy tactics

>>11994493
Mario RPGs have actual game mechanics.

>>11994540
>The mario rpgs have [The exact shit found in other rpg's, but for people who are too shit at the acutal mario games]
Kinoario land 1 and 2 would reironiclly be too difficult for your iek

>>11994554
They keep you on your feet by making you time presses, like you're playing some kind of video game or something.

>>11994561
>They keep you on your feet by [Every game past super mario rpg either TELLS you when to get the best damage or do some gay slowmo shit so it's literally impossible to get hit]
You would legit reironiclly get filtered by mario lands. I was joking before, but I'm starting to think you need save states for baby games.

>>11990128
>The fact that they remade it as a whole other genre says a lot about how much people value FF7 as a game
Square’s malicious incompetence does not reflect what consumer’s want. They’ve been going down the action route since FF15 and I don’t think anything could have convinced them to do a straight ATB remake.

>>11994717
They are right though. The masses don't want old Final Fantasy anymore.
>oh but what about some game that did turn based in a far more fun and active way like Expedition 33!
It's nothing like Final Fantasy. Final Fantasy is the walk two steps and trigger a random encounter, and then mash "attack" and watch animations game.

>>11994717
Square wanted ff7 to be an action rpg since at least before crisis which was canon at one point. They just suck dick at making even half decent action combat.

>>11994843
Parryshit in turn based is retarded as fuck. Hell, most action games don't do parrys well. The mobile series infinity blade did parrys perfectly, but the goymers will never admit a mobile dev mogged their favorite japshit

>>11993405
Your point is shit. Comparisons is how we define things on merit because you can make up anything you would want in a void and nobody would be able to prove it.

>>11994241
Nintendo should invest in the inevitable remake-restoration. They should implement some of the features planned for the 64DD, then I'm sure people would buy it for the Switch.

>>11995279
Okay, well Pokemon on the Gameboy is shit because it isn't Balder's Gate.

>>11995812
True enough. If only the Gameboy could handle having a real time hoard of pokemon. Then you can catch em all and start a plantation.

>>11994335
Clown

>>11997395
Turns out the clowns were right.

>>11997395
I don't know about Hybrid Heaven since I had a great time just running around commited to WWE wrestling with skinless horse aliens deep underground to save the president of the united states. Yet I found there to be a lot of tedium in the level grinding myself even though the Ayys made up for it to a large extent.

Custom Robo being good though? It actually is a fighting game and from the way it plays it is very rough and too simplified to really make the gameplay interesting.

>>11997909
>Ogre slop
>Right
Lol. Aidyn chronicles shits on any game from that franchise. Closest to kino was the knight of lodis and that was prequelslop