Thread 12003560

>>12003560 (OP)
Overrated crap that ruined wrpgs turning them into pseudo dating sims focused solely only le hecking epic funny party members that talk.

Just like ff7 ruined jrpgs turning them into movie slops

I'm currently mulling over my custom party before I take the plunge. Just finished an Elf Archer run through BG2: SoA. This is all original, btw. Sitting on several premades I cooked up. I'm thinking a 5-man custom, but we'll see what happens.

>>12003714
What mental illness is this

>>12003593
Late 90s RPGs are super gay

>1997
Fallout
>1998
Baldurs Gate
>1999
Planescape Torment
>2000
Icewind Dale
>2001
Arcanum – Of Steamworks & Magick Obscura
>2002
Neverwinter Nights
>2003
The Temple of Elemental Evil

It was a good time.

>>12003770
It's called enjoying vidya. Something you wouldn't know anything about. Now fuck off.

>>12003593
BG1 isn't like that at all though, your companions virtually never speak after joining you unless it's to complain that your reputation is too high/low.

One of BG2's writers actually claimed a couple years ago that he was inspired to give BG2's companions way more dialogue after playing FFVII and feeling like the party in that game mogged the companions in BG1.

>>12004178
>he was inspired to give BG2's companions way more dialogue after playing FFVII

>>12003593
I thought BG1&2 were supposed to be these undisputed masterpieces of pure role-playing, only to be met with a quirk chungus dating sim with pre-written story chapters. I guess BioWare was never good.

>>12004891
>BG1
>dating sim
It had no romance whatsoever, that was introduced in BG2 (you didn't play the game)

>miss
>miss
>miss
>miss
>miss
>you died

Yeah I love missing all my attacks.

>>12003560 (OP)
it sucks monkey fuck

>design a game where at level 1 you miss most of your attacks and die in one hit
>first enemy is a super boss wizard that casts a spell so you have even less of a chance of hitting him AND magic missile which WILL hit and WILL kill

What were they fucking thinking??

>>12003593
You've never played BG

The spamming retard from /vrpg/ has set up camp here, I see. Soon he'll destroy the entire board.

>>12004923
How about you learn to build a proper character? You get overpowered extremely quickly.

>>12003770
terminally online contrarianism
i’m afraid the only cure is to have sex with a woman

>>12004968
WHAT WERE THEY THINKING?!?

>>12004923
skill issue

I never liked bioware rpgs

>>12003560 (OP)
I was filtered. I even figured out how to play Baldur's Gate 1 inside of 2's engine since the whole concept of having to pause, and plan all attacks out was dumb for a PC RPG.

In hindsight, I mean I guess it's turn based but it looked too much like Diablo II so it pissed me off that it didn't play like it.

I also tried Neverwinter Nights recently like a year ago and thought the story was written so badly in the beginning, I couldn't stand it.

I remember being annoyed that you really couldn't ignore the main quest no matter what your related responses to main NPC's wanted.

I think Morrowind and similar sandbox games have spoiled me too much. Linear RPGs feel like dumb railroad experiences to me now.

Ex: If I want to kill some random NPC in a game, lemme do it, even if it allows me to never beat the main quest. Fuck it, lemme do whatever I want. The true Western RPG way unlike that railroaded JRPG garbage.

>>12005127
Me too. Way too overhyped.

>>12005127
Bethesda are the only guys that make good wrpgs

>>12004913
>that was introduced in BG2
Barely.

>>12005263
Bethesda made one good game and two ambitious but flawed games.

>>12003560 (OP)
Fallout and Planescape were miles better. The only good thing about BG was the narrator in Polish version.
I hated how this game just threw party members at you and expected you to lose them through combat. What if I don't want Khalid to die 5 minutes after meeting him?

>>12005339
You've got to admit BG had better combat than both of those though

>>12003560 (OP)
I played the enhanced edition for the increased resolution and I have no regrets. How the fuck did people play this in 640x480?

>>12003593
>Overrated crap that ruined wrpgs turning them into pseudo dating sims focused solely only le hecking epic funny party members that talk.

You are a poser that never played it, son.

>>12005106
Just run past him. Jaheira already has Remove Fear memorized, which despite the name gives immunity to fear, countering his opening spell of Horror.

>>12003560 (OP)
Agree. I paid a nerd to build me a custom PC specifically for playing this game. The ambient sound in stereo hearing birds tweet as I crept around the map was awesome. About two hours in my blunt-wielding STR 18/00 halfling gibbed a wolf and I remember thinking "this may be the best game ever made"

>>12005114
How do we combat this menace?

>>12005374
back then we didn't have 4k monitors

>>12005381
>>12005112
The point is the focus shifted from gameplay to
>haha le funny quirky baldman with a mouse says funny things xD

>>12005175
>I think Morrowind and similar sandbox games have spoiled me too much.
I think you're just a fucken retard, mate. Who looks at the BG series and is like, "That's just like Diablo, hur dur."?

>>12005374
>increased resolution
I use Nvidia Control Panel.

>>12005339
>The only good thing about BG was the narrator in Polish version.
It really is the samefagging spamming slav retard

Beamdog is a guilty of a number of different crimes. Here are the major ones.

1. The Enhanced Editions are essentially a collection of free mods that had existed for nearly twenty years. Beamdog gathered them all up, slapped "Enhanced Edition" on it and resold it as a new product. There's very very little in the Enhanced Editions that wasn't already out there, and most of it is stuff you don't want (like obnoxious character outlines).

2. The games didn't sell so well and the originals were still far outselling them, even twenty years after their release, so Beamdog had EVERY digital distributor stop selling the originals and ONLY sell the Enhanced Edition. If you want to buy a digital copy of the originals now, they're "bundled" into the Enhanced Edition. Now these scumbags can claim sales from people just wanting to buy the originals as their own.

3. The infamous 600+ bugs on launch. The game is still riddled with bugs (as even a perfunctory glance over their forums show) but the fact that it took nearly two years for them to get a game that had been working fine for 20 years to reach playability after launch is telling of their wild incompetence.

4. This is where we get to the ones that really piss people off. Beamdog couldn't just remaster the game, they had to fuck with the content too. New dialogue for existing NPCs like Jaheira, Viconia, Safana, Kivan, et cetera was written in to make the characters more progressive and leftist friendly. Beamdog shills will argue that "adding content isn't changing content XDDD" but it is when the new content changes the core personalities of the existing characters. This is in addition to adding a slew of their own LGBT (hitherto there were none in Baldur's Gate) NPCs, all flooded with OP attributes and magic items to encourage people to play them despite their cancer.

5. Breaking the way stealth functioned in the original games.

6. Siege of motherfucking Dragonspear.

>>12005126
Oh yeah, it's entirely my fault the dice rolls don't roll in my favor.

>>12005116
Please teach me then.

>>12005758
You never played it. You're describing BG2.

>>12003560 (OP)
it is now play this

>>12006807
samefag also OP don't forget you have the tales of the sword coast expansion for baldurs gate to enjoy (I have the big box PC of the two and I wish modern games shipped physical like this still) image from search

>>12005175
stop hitting return pls also you have poor taste not the games fault OG baldurs gate IS the programatic implentation of the DnD ruleset, world and game

>>12006051
Baldurs gate dark alliance is very diablo on the PS2 but it's amazing for same room too player on the PS2. YOU are of course correct on Baldurs Gate/Tales of teh sword coast.

Neverwinter nights is excellent too 2 is peak