Thread 12021340

DOOM THREAD / RETRO FPS THREAD - Last thread: >>12015409

Doom/Quake/Duke/Heretic/Hexen/Unreal/Sam/Half-Life/etc
Gameplay, WADs/Maps/Mods, Source Ports
All other 90s FPS welcome
~ Let's post like gentlemen ~

FAQ/GENERAL GUIDE
https://rentry.org/vrbin

SO YOU WANT TO PLAY SOME FUCKING DOOM
(or Quake, Duke, Marathon, Deus Ex)
https://imgur.com/a/wWS8zXz

Same thing, in video format:
https://youtu.be/ietb4JwaaXA
https://youtu.be/DhOjleMqwdQ
https://youtu.be/CGj4gXyCzg0
== GAMES/RESOURCES ==
DOOM Quickstart (IWADs etc): https://mediafire.com/file/wuniyrhsjjgq4y8
QUAKE Trilogy FAQ: https://pastebin.com/Ucb11XhU

PortaDOOM:
https://github.com/Kroc/PortaDOOM/releases
HALF-LIFE (GoldSrc) Anthology:
https://mega.nz/file/GRUCGbAY#RhOiqxnf7UPOiXcJNbRh-prKIEVRhjJaEpAkt34lyZg
4CHAN DOSPACK + Win98 games:
https://mega.nz/#F!3t8nzSIS!947kyMN6Z80f8HS7q2XlqA

Assorted /vr/ shooters, mods, etc:
https://mega.nz/#F!QXIk1bjB!NHRWGIfjcc77PyGgRlga4Q
https://mega.nz/#F!GtEQTISJ!CCJGyPEEEsZasc1PMXicUA

MIDI COLLECTIONS
https://files.catbox.moe/2hul76.zip
https://mega.nz/file/dWQ3SThI#qYcpa4eGQj6ElyRZgjGqszR59dh4Fq9D3qXYee54kZQ
https://archive.org/details/archiveteam-geocities-midi-collection-2009
https://archive.org/details/midiru-archive-2022-02-25.7z

== INFO/LINKS ==
OFFICIAL DOOM WIKI
https://doomwiki.org/

WHERE TO FIND WADS
Vanilla/Boom: https://doomworld.com/forum/4-wads-mods/
ZDoom: https://forum.zdoom.org/viewforum.php?f=19
/idgames: https://doomworld.com/idgames/

MODDING RESOURCES
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewforum.php?f=37
https://realm667.com/

== /VR/DOOM COMMUNITY ==
THREAD ARCHIVES
https://desuarchive.org/vr/search/text/"doom thread"/type/op/

OUR WADS/MODS
https://rentry.org/vrdepot

MAKING NEW THREADS PROPERLY
https://pastebin.com/8mDnrsrB

IMAGE/WAD DATABASE
https://vrdoom.booru.org/
https://clovr.xyz/wadsup/

MULTIPLAYER SERVERS
US West: https://clovr.xyz/
CA/US Midwest: https://macgu.fun/

=== CURRENT PROJECTS ===
Duke It Out in /vr/
Game : DN3D | Deadline : Jan 1st 2026
Tile/Con pack: https://files.catbox.moe/thm4q7.zip
Rules: https://desuarchive.org/vr/post/11835634

=== CURRENT RELEASES ===
/Vertex Relocation/
IWAD : Doom 2 | Format : Boom
RC3: https://files.catbox.moe/aoucg0.7z

=== NEWS ===
[9-12] Call of the Void is out: https://www.moddb.com/mods/quake-ii-call-of-the-void/downloads/call-of-the-void-version-1-0

[9-12] Final version: https://files.catbox.moe/if131u.lmp

[9-11] Major Duke it Out in /vr/ developer quits his "major developer" role due to ungrateful anon(s)

[9-11] Esselfortium releases the full texture sets for for BTSX E1 & E2 for use.
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/155111/

[9-10] Posted on Doomworld: https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/155093-boom-umapinfo-vertex-relocation-community-project-by-vr-where-maps-retain-original-doom-2-monster-placement/

[9-10] Updated the tile/con pack with the tile sorting config file from the following link.
https://forums.duke4.net/topic/12816-my-custom-tilescfg-for-mapster32-duke-nukem-3d/

[9-10] Official DBP WADs repository
https://archive.org/details/dbp-wad-archive

[9-07] Perdition's Gate: Resurgence, released
https://doomworld.com/idgames/?id=21753

[9-03] Operation Deadbolt released
https://doomworld.com/forum/topic/155013

[9-02] Ashes 2063, GMDX and RealRTCW, available on GOG Mods platform

[9-01] TNT2: Devilution RC1 gains MAP26 + 3 more
https://doomworld.com/forum/topic/104882

[8-30] Helion Engine v0.9.8.0 update
https://github.com/Helion-Engine/Helion/releases/latest

[8-27] Herexen, vanilla crossover mod for Doom
https://doomworld.com/forum/topic/154886

=== PREVIOUS ===
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-vrTgPGmlLwdO5VHHCJMxmRD05E6XlNmqHIN8aykRG0
TO SUBMIT NEWS, REPLY TO THIS POST (ideally with the [MM-DD] date bracket)

>>12021342
>>12021340 (OP)
[9-12] New Doom infographic is out https://imgur.com/a/wB0psIa
(actually it's been out for months but never added to news OR the OP)

>>12021351
>megaman is more notable than ashes
just rope you obsessed retard

>>12021359
> I don't agree with these additions.
Fine, give me your versions. I don't care for those write-ups that much either

>page 6
> That's a bit early.
>"DOOM V9" while using the V8 link
> and maybe very devious.
I suspect it's some kind of false-flagging anti-mm attempt. Probably not gonna get taken down since it has the old link which means it's protected by the jay-jays

>>12021340 (OP)
man, fuuuuuuuuuuuuck you

Here's my 2 cents on the write-ups for mm and bd:

Megaman:

CutmanMike: now that motherfucker could mod! Full 3D adaptation of every Mega Man level, character, boss, weapon and mechanic in existence. If you can look past the bright 8-bit colors, you're in for one of the most fun to play multiplayer mods of Doom.

Brutal Doom:

Sgt Mark IV immortalized himself by making a mod that adds gore, assault rifles, middle fingers and front kicks to already brutal franchise. Doesn't appeal as much to the people who care about uniform aesthetics, but if you want more madness - you'll get it.

>>12021340 (OP)
> old link
I'm just gonna assume this is a mistake. Megaman crowd has gotten a bit of a bad rep recently in these threads, so let's just not turn this into a shit flinging fest but rather make the next thread correctly. Anyway I'm off to play some mm8bdm

>>12021351
I feel that Metroid Dreadnought should be here, but no one ever cared to update that or merge with spram's mod for a best of both worlds.
I still hate what they did to term.

>>12021379
MOCK 2:
kys nigger

Well that was a decent game besides the annoying platforming sections, you often have to jump the longest possible distnace which I am still not sure how you are supposed to do, it just felt like luck.
Also I can't imagine playing the original console or EX versions where you had no checkpoints and had to complete each level in one go, some levels like the one with laser traps were quite frustrating. It's not some hidden game masterpiece some make it out to be but it was still fun. Not sure if I want to play the other PC version which looks quite generic.

Also the final boss fight was fairly easy, the only diffcult part was not falling out of the map which happened to me 4 times.

What do dancing anime girls have to do with retro fps games?

>>12021391
>>12021395
>>12021404
>>12021413
>>12021427
Doom?

What are some games you couldn't beat without save scumming?

Damn, the strogg isnt fucking around.

>>12021429
the anti megaman schizo went haywire, just report him for offtopic

>>12021454
Both you and the chink cartoon spammer are retarded. Megaman has never been irrelevant.

>"the anti megaman schizo"
He really expects people to buy into this, huh?

Great thread

Gee, /vr/ how come your jannies let you have two /doom/ generals?

>>12021493
Judging by the contents of this thread, there are no jannies.

>>12021342
This thread is probably gonna get nuked, but for the next thread remove Major Duke developer quits from the news. Let's just forget the yesterday's shitstorm. I'm still here, just not taking part to dramas anymore, but working on Duke project. Sorry for my yesterday's spergouts.

>>12021502
You are god damn right.

>>12021379
and metadoom?
is super epic!

>>12021429
We need more doom wads with cute anime girls, bonus points if they can dance.

Is this fun to you?

We have insisted that the development of political democracy
represents the convergence of a great number of social movements, no
one of which owed either its origin or its impetus to inspiration of
democratic ideals or to planning for the eventual outcome. This fact
makes irrelevant both paeans and condemnations based upon
conceptual interpretations of democracy, which, whether true or false,
good or bad, are reflections of facts in thought, not their causal authors.
In any case, the complexity of the historic events which have operated
is such as to preclude any thought of rehearsing them in these pages,
even if I had a knowledge and competency which are lacking. Two
general and obvious considerations need, however, to be mentioned.
Born in revolt against established forms of government and the state,
the events which finally culminated in democratic political forms were
deeply tinged by fear of government, and were actuated by a desire to
reduce it to a minimum so as to limit the evil it could do.

>>12021521
He's a fucking retard, but I feel this thread is doomed already. Just return to the previous one folks.

Since established political forms were tied up with other institutions,
especially ecclesiastical, and with a solid body of tradition and inherited
belief, the revolt also extended to the latter. Thus it happened that the
intellectual terms in which the movement expressed itself had a
negative import even when they seemed to be positive. Freedom
presented itself as an end in itself, though it signified in fact liberation
from oppression and tradition. Since it was necessary, upon the
intellectual side, to find justification for the movements of revolt, and
since established authority was upon the side of institutional life, the
natural recourse was appeal to some inalienable sacred authority
resident in the protesting individuals. Thus “individualism” was born, a
theory which endowed singular persons in isolation from any
associations, except those which they deliberately formed for their own
ends, with native or natural rights. The revolt against old and limiting
associations was converted, intellectually, into the doctrine of
independence of any and all associations.

>>12021506
I forgive you, Pete.

>>12021516
fore/vr/ alone

>>12021534
I love you too, Bobby.

The revolutions that are now spreading themselves in the world have
their origin in this state of the case, and the present war is a conflict
between the representative system founded on the rights of the people,
and the hereditary system founded in usurpation. As to what are called
Monarchy, Royalty, and Aristocracy, they do not, either as things or as
terms, sufficiently describe the hereditary system; they are but
secondary things or signs of the hereditary system, and which fall of
themselves if that system has not a right to exist. Were there no such
terms as Monarchy, Royalty, and Aristocracy, or were other terms
substituted in their place, the hereditary system, if it continued, would
not be altered thereby. It would be the same system under any other
titulary name as it is now.

Liberty and Property are words expressing all those of our possessions
which are not of an intellectual nature. There are two kinds of property.
Firstly, natural property, or that which comes to us from the Creator of
the universe—such as the earth, air, water. Secondly, artificial or
acquired property—the invention of men. In the latter equality is
impossible; for to distribute it equally it would be necessary that all
should have contributed in the same proportion, which can never be the
case; and this being the case, every individual would hold on to his own
property, as his right share. Equality of natural property is the subject of
this little essay. Every individual in the world is born therein with
legitimate claims on a certain kind of property, or its equivalent.

DELET THIS

By the just procedure, the whole price of the first piece of work goes
into the hands of the man who does it. No surplus being left in the
employer’s hands, he cannot hire another man for another piece of
labour. But by precisely so much as his power is diminished, the hired
workman’s power is increased; that is to say, by the additional half of
the price he has received; which additional half he has the power of
using to employ another man in his service. I will suppose, for the
moment, the least favourable, though quite probable, case—that,
though justly treated himself, he yet will act unjustly to his subordinate;
and hire at half-price, if he can. The final result will then be, that one
man works for the employer, at just price; one for the workman, at half-
price; and two, as in the first case, are still out of employ. These two, as
I said before, are out of employ in both cases. The difference between
the just and unjust procedure does not lie in the number of men hired,
but in the price paid to them, and the persons by whom it is paid. The
essential difference, that which I want the reader to see clearly, is, that
in the unjust case, two men work for one, the first hirer. In the just case,
one man works for the first hirer, one for the person hired, and so on,
down or up through the various grades of service; the influence being
carried forward by justice, and arrested by injustice.

The immediate operation of justice in this respect is, therefore, to
diminish the power of wealth, first in acquisition of luxury, and,
secondly, in exercise of moral influence. The employer cannot
concentrate so multitudinous labour on his own interests, nor can he
subdue so multitudinous mind to his own will. But the secondary
operation of justice is not less important. The insufficient payment of
the group of men working for one, places each under a maximum of
difficulty in rising above his position. The tendency of the system is to
check advancement. But the sufficient or just payment, distributed
through a descending series of offices or grades of labour,17 gives each
subordinated person fair and sufficient means of rising in the social
scale, if he chooses to use them; and thus not only diminishes the
immediate power of wealth, but removes the worst disabilities of
poverty.

Flora Hawkes laughed. “We haven’t a chance in the world,” she said.
“I know this Tarzan bloke. If he was all alone we wouldn’t be a match
for him, but he’s got a bunch of his Waziri with him, and there are no
finer warriors in Africa than they. And they’d fight for him to the last
man. You just tell Owaza that you’re thinking of going after Tarzan of
the Apes and his Waziri to take the gold away from them, and see how
long it’d be before we wouldn’t have a single nigger with us. The very
name of Tarzan scares these west coast blacks out of a year’s growth.
They would sooner face the devil. No, sir, we’ve lost, and all we can do
is to get out of the country, and thank our lucky stars if we manage to
get out alive. The ape-man will watch us. I should not be surprised if he
were watching us this minute.” Her companions looked around
apprehensively at this, casting nervous glances toward the jungle. “And
he’d never let us get back to Opar for another load, even if we could
prevail upon our blacks to return there.”
“Two t’ousand pounds, two t’ousand pounds!” wailed Bluber. “Und all
dis suit, vot it cost me tventy guineas vot I can’t vear it again in England
unless I go to a fancy dress ball, vich I never do.”

If I post in this thread, nobody will know that I'm gay.

>>12021603
Now I know.

>>12021603
heh

Reminder that this is all GZDoom's fault.

>Doom
More like dumb lmao

man I'm getting some really annoying sound glitching on the quake one enhanced version. tried various snd_ console commands to no avail. any advice?

>>12021751
Yeah, maybe check your OS sound sample rate settings. And stop bumping this thread. >>12015409

>>12021769
I thought it isn't bumped if it's past 500 posts

>>12021773
You would be right.

>>12021694
/thread

>>12021340 (OP)
>>12021375
This shit feels incredibly SAAAR-sy.
>SAAAR vat if ve put shambler vit TWO lightning arms that melts you upon site vit no way to counter?
>SAAAR vat if ve put hellknight that can jump across the entire map vit an aoe attack you can't avoid?
>SAAAR vat if ve made enemies that move around like pinballs after getting shot?
>SAAAR vat if ve put enemy sounds through a shitty robo filter?
Shame because I was actually looking forward to it. The music is decent for what it is.

>>12023075
>literal sharty and /v/ buzzwords
this post reeks of slipseer

>>12023084
What exactly was sharty about it? I've never been there other than when this website was down earlier in the year to see what was going on.

>>12023075
slavjank kino

>>12023105
Nah. Slavshit is always shit. If they were behind this mod it would explain why it feels like shit and the incessant dick sucking.

>>12023427
>try to play quake live
>it's 75% retards who stand in your way every fucking time
>20% actually good players
>5% that are such obvious closet cheaters

>>12021515
yeah good one /v/ but no mbf21 no play

what?

>>12021340 (OP)
What the actual fuck is going on? So just because some faggot didn't like that this thread features v9 (without even having a new link for the doom infographic) - he decided to spam this thread with literal garbage and then make a new thread?
How the fuck is that second thread still alive and the trash in this thread not deleted?
If this is not a perfect testament of how corrupt and one-sided this place is - I don't know what is.
Mind you, people got their threads deleted - twice in a row, a perfectly correctly made threads just for having a new link in the OP.
But yet it's ok for some cocksucker to just make a second thread and spam the first one?

>>12024420
No janitors at the moment. It's why he's running rampant with his autism.

>>12024430
And people were complaining about le hecking megaman autist, when the real autist is this anti-megaman anti-nerf anti-any kind of update at all autist who - the moment it's allowed - becomes the most obnoxious faggot in history of this general

>>12024434
Same person.

>>12024435
What the fuck are you even on about? This is the actual original thread that got shit on by the anti-mm schizo (who as we now know is also a spammer) and you're currently posting in a second thread made against the rules. Didn't you faggots just recently pretend to give a fuck about "hurr it's too early to make it when the old one is on the 5th page" - and now you don't mind posting in an illegal duplicate thread? So it was never really about rules, just about your anti-update faggotry.

>>12024439
MM8BDM will never become part of the infographic. No one will ever take you seriously, and you're never gonna score.

>>12024437
holy lmao, he literally just blatantly admitted to his tactics. Hope somebody screenshots this

At this point I am up for the fucking infograph shit to be removed from the threads.

>>12024441
Do it yourself, we know you have the other images on hand for your autistic crusade.

>>12024440
Curious take. What makes so sure? Are you gonna continue to break rules, samefag and gaslight people to make sure the infographic is never updated?

>>12024446
Yes. The plan is to sabotage you until you have a mental breakdown. You figured it out.

>>12024456
Except it's at least 3 people at this point + Pete who got to see your game plan all too close.
The last 2 waves of megaman supporters are all but reasonable, so if you keep trolling and samefagging you'll just get reported and banned.
If there are still no janitors active - people will eventually naturally decide to switch to the new infographic.
And the more you keep doing it - the more people open their eyes on your obvious transparent samefagging.

As much as I hate when this thread becomes like this (and it's never been worse than right now) I'm glad that at least people can clearly see who's the troll/schizo/autist and who's genuinely trying to contribute.
and for what it's worth >>12021379 I think these write-ups are totally fine. I definitely don't worship the originally write-ups on the doom pic. They are fine, nothing special. No point in pretending they are some genius level writing

>>12024420
Be vigilant

>>12021340 (OP)
What mod can I use to play myhouse.wad?

>>12021379
>Doesn't appeal as much to the people who care about uniform aesthetics
Those who didn't have the balls to take Doom to a new level, plus envy of the mod's success.

>>12025546
None, maybe except that Doom Mower mod.

>>12025550
Typical brutal doom fan

>>12026271
best vid

>>12021340 (OP)
why was quake so much worse than doom?