Thread 12026595

does anything change if this gets localized already in the early-mid 90s? or was final fantasy always destined to be THE jrpg for the western man

Fuck man it's your fucking wacky fan fiction, you tell us.

>>12026595 (OP)
probably doesnt change anything

>>12026595 (OP)
DQ is too childish for an average american nigger

>>12026595 (OP)
It looks too much like a nes game

>>12026667
it looks better than FF4 which white people love

>>12026671
>Implying that you're not white

>>12026684
I don't know what youre trying to say but you have a funni picture

>>12026684
No I dont know why you would think I was implying I wasnt white. My statement was saying that the white man likes FF4 despite looking like an NES game so they would have no problem liking DQ5 which looks less like an NES game.

>>12026595 (OP)
>expected the (((best jrpg ever)))
>its a totally boring, generic slop
>but it had a monster catching mechanic and a couple plot twists so japanese boomer found this totally stunning and revolutionary
its objectively shit compared to chrono trigger, ffvi or earthbound. wouldve changed absolutely nothing. theres a reason none of them were popular in the west until viii, that was the first (and to this day only) dragon quest that was actually fun.

>>12027556
Not him, but I'd argue dq5 looks even more like an nes game than ff4 does. Even worse when it was competing against FF5 the same year, which at least bothered to be a little fancier.

>DQ5 gets localized in France, Italy, Spain and Portugal in 1993
>they keep the name Quest and the Toriyama key art
>the marketing heavily relies on "by the maker of Dragon Ball!!!"
>because of this the game gets sold out in a week, they have to reprint it several times, and it's a best seller that puts the SNES ahead of the competition rather than it being a 50-50 situation with the Megadrive
>as a result the Abel Yuusha anime is brought over and aired on the same natotional TV channels DB/Z were aired on
>Europe becomes JRPG heaven long before FF7 is released and we even get games unreleased in America like FF5, all localized in each country's language without needing to change the key art or censor christian references

I did it bros, I saved the SNES in Europe

>>12027790
kek this would have ruled

>>12027790
Certainly could have helped a bit for France and Spain, but Portugal didn't get Dragon Ball until 1995 or so

>>12027790
Did you guys not get the Dai no Daibouken anime? I'd think that would've been enough to get the later DQ games localized.

>>12027920
Actually you're right, we got it in France in 1994 for a short period of time. I had no idea, but I can assure very few knew about DQ then and Dai isn't exactly a faithful representation of the games unlike Abel Yuusha

>>12027985
It isn't, but it's still a relatively high-quality series. It's such a shame that it got cancelled when it did, right smackdab in the middle of one of its best arcs. Perhaps had they finished it, it would've generated more interest in DQ as a whole.

>>12026595 (OP)
Literally nothing would change.
No European market for DQ or Nintendo, so that's an immediate bust.
In North America though, lets presume DQV releases in line with past DQ titles, which would put it around a 1993/94 release date.
It would not go over well.
If it's a Dragon Warrior game, then it'd be the fifth title in a series that was severely underperforming, being outclassed by its contemporaries, and it'd look like absolute shit at the height of SNES/Genesis graphicswhoring.
If it was rebranded to just "Dragon Quest: Hand of the Heavenly Bride", like how Euros handled DQVIII, it'd probably still do shit due to the weak graphics and it not being a very interesting JRPG compared to contemporaries.

There was never any "saving DQ in the west" without erasing the entire history of DQ outside Japan. Here's how I'd handle it
>do not release any NES Dragon Quest titles, by the time they got around to it it was already too late
>pick up Dragon Quest 1&2 remakes on SNES and release them under the name "Dragon Quest" with a subtitle like "Scions of Roto"
>pick up the DQIII remake, drop the number, release it in English
But, you run into an inevitable issue- the PSX. Dragon Quest did not get a mainline game on PSX until 2000. You cannot go backwards and release V as it looks outdated compared to the remakes. You could release VI after III, but not before as that confuses the "narrative", 1-3 tell a complete story, 6 exists outside that.

But, theoretically
>Release VI after III, sometime in 1996/7, drop the number
>Release IV's PSX remake, again no number, right in 2001 day and date with Japan
>push the DQV PS2 remake to Western audiences, no number
And through this, we frankenstein the second trilogy, ironically in chronological order without too much shuffling. VII would be skipped but it's a necessary sacrifice to not confuse franchise identity.

Saying ALL of that- the franchise would still bomb.

>>12028438
Alternatively:
>Dragon Warrior: Scions of Roto (1993, SNES)
>Dragon Warrior 2: Seeds of Salvation (1995, SNES)
>Dragon Warrior 3: Realms of Revelation (1996, SNES)
>Dragon Warrior 4: Chapters of the Chosen (2001, PSX)
DW1&2+3 Remakes on GBC from 2002-03
>Dragon Warrior 5: Hand of the Heavenly Bride (2004, PS2)
>Dragon Warrior 6: Journey of the Cursed King (2005, PS2)
DQ4-6 DS remakes run from 2008-2010
>Dragon Warrior 7: Sentinels of the Starry Sky (2009, DS)
>Dragon Warrior 8: Rise of the Five Tribes Online (2012, MMORPG)
>Dragon Warrior 9: Fragments of the Forgotten Past (2013, 3DS)
>Dragon Warrior 10: Echoes of an Elusive Age (2017, PS4/3DS)

I firmly believe if Enix faked hard enough, this could've worked. It would've been hellish to catalog, but I think this would've made the series ultimately more successful, as it would've kept it constantly relevant.
Oddly, in this setup, 4 and 5 get to keep their numbers

>>12028438
I recall mention of a plan to release DQ6 as "Dragon Warrior V" in the West, which didn't pan out.

Final Fantasy didn't become big in the west until VII.

Dragon warrior IV sold only 80,000 copies on NES in 1993. It was not doing well.

Dragon quest VII on playstation sold 200,000 copies outside of Japan when releass in 2001 which was slightly better but failed to really get much attention in a now crowded JRPG market.

If DQV was released on SNES in 1995 or so it would have been compared unfavorably to FF6 and chrono trigger. Maybe 100k copies sold?

>>12028490
No, but Final Fantasy remained a consistently-released franchise in the West while Dragon Quest either localized games too late in a console's lifespan to matter or just didn't bother at all. For FF, persistence paid off when they brought over VII.

>>12028560
>Adams the apple, Vlad the Dracky and Goodian the slime knight, they will be your main party members for 75% of the game.
C'mon guys let's avenge my Father and find the legendary hero.

>>12028560
>>12028575
And don't forget about that unfortunate Spanish stereotype who's your family manservant.

>>12027920
Spain got it AND the manga, and it was advertised as "Dragon Ball 2"
It flopped hard because of the lousy localization (retarded name changes, mostly) and because of the anime only adapted 1/4 of the manga so the audience never got a proper closure.

>>12028607
>Spanish stereotype
Mexican stereotype. Sancho talks about Mexican food and uses Mexican slang, not spaniard ones.

>>12028627
I've played SNES and PS2 versions and I don't remember that. Are you talking about the DS version? Making everyone some random IRL nationality for localizations was trendy at the time. All the more reasons to avoid the shitty DS versions.

There was never any market for DQ in the west because the games have always been atrociously localised. It still blows my mind that they have any fanbase at all over here.

>>12028769
>Merazoma? Gigadein? Ionazun? Too complicated. Here's Kasizzle, Kazap, and fuck it, Kaboom, why not?

>>12028869
In my day, they were Firebane, Thordain, and Explodet.

>>12028575
(monster) bros before hoes