Thread 12090934

Stop calling your NES a Nintendo.

Shut up, Nigger

>>12090934 (OP)
There's no such thing as a Nintendo, but there is such thing as a Sega Master System.

>>12090934 (OP)
even back then Nigtendo were pissy about copyright. what a bunch of cunts

>>12090934 (OP)
>You see, "Nintendo" is an adjective
what did they mean by this?

>>12090934 (OP)
Where was this originally printed?

>>12091069
It's a non ESL thing, you wouldn't understand.

It's so fucking weird reading old stuff when people would still say they "xeroxed" something instead of photocopied.

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>>12090934 (OP)
>>12091069
Back in the day people, espescially parents, would call any videogame system “a nintendo” even if it was an atari or whatever. That’s what the ad is talking about.
You guys must be too young to remember.

>my name is nintendo entertainment system family computer 8-bit home video game console
>now you can call me nintendo entertainment system
>or you can call me nes
>or you can call me nintendo nes
>or you can call me nintendo nes control deck
>or you can call me famicom
>or you can call me nintendo famicom
>or you can call me nintendo family computer
>or you can call me family computer video game console
>but ya doesn't have to call me nintendo

>>12091349
I think it was part of the documentation they’d send to retailers. Here’s an entire video showing what retailers in 1994 would get. https://youtu.be/gHFCsWL8ekE?si=SaJ6uWH-HxPJyiqf

>>12091008
They tried very, very hard to get game rentals shut down in the late 80s-early 90s too. Then a couple years later they were deepthroating the politicians going after violent vidya by playing up their family friendly image and pointing fingers at Sega and other companies, hoping it would hurt them. They've always been an abhorrent company.

>>12091446
Nobody will get that reference boomer.

>>12091550
It’s Groucho Marx, idiot.

>>12091430
every game is zelda according to my mom.

>>12090934 (OP)
It was never called the Nintendo Entertainment System, it was the Nintendo System.

>>12091550
>t. hasn't seen king of the hill

>>12091650
no it's the nintendo entertainment system, your parents help you hook it up. legend of zelda sold separately

>>12091550
He was referenced in a recent-ish episode of Futurama.
>>12091569
o u

>>12091650
You cheeky cunt

True. We all called it the Nintendo Master System back then anyway.

>>12090934 (OP)
Nintendo Eats Shit

it's called a regular nintendo

el nintendo
la super
la sesenta y cuatro
la cubo
el gem boi
la advans

>>12090934 (OP)
It's a Family Computer, not a fucking Famicom, you dumb ass Japs.

>>12091008
MR NINTENDO GET DOWN!

>>12091430
>You kids must be too young to remember when I beat Polybius on my atari 1300 in 10kBC and was awarded to NWC cart and the "mostest coolest dude who totally has pubes" award.

>>12090934 (OP)
Ness

>>12091569
i thought it was scat man

>>12091430
You must be too young, because parents called everything an "Atari", it was kids that used "Nintendo" interchangeably, referring to either an NES, a SNES, an N64, and even later, the Gamecube. It's all just Nintendo.

I've never heard an adult refer to gaming systems as "a Nintendo".

>>12092107
Haha metoo.

>>12091613
>Playing Final Fantasy
This looks just like Zelda!
>Playing Age of Empires
This looks just like Zelda!
>Playing Quake
Zelda!
>Get Riven: Sequel to Myst for Christmas
I thought this game looked kind of like Zelda which I know you like

>In college
>Make a video game for a school project
>It's literally just a mod for Half-Life with its own series of maps, custom weapons, and new enemies
Wow anon, now you're making your own Zeldas!

>>12090934 (OP)
it's a cereal wow

Make me.

>>12092117
NTA, but I was born in 1989 and my parents and their families never had Atari. The NES was the first video game console they ever had and everyone called it a Nintendo, even my aunts, uncles, and grandparents. Everyone in my family continued to use "Nintendo" as a stand-in for any console game for decades after. It ended up resulting in some weird-sounding exchanges when we owned both a PlayStation and an Xbox, like:
>I'm going to go play Nintendo.
>Which one?
>The Xbox.
Or:
>Anon is playing Nintendo on the PlayStation.

>>12091371
it’s not that weird
it’s not any weirder than saying “put a Band-Aid” on it

And then they went and called their future consoles Super Nintendo and Nintendo 64.

>>12092878
But people still do that instead of it spontaneously falling out of the lexicon.

>>12092893
Super Nintendo Entertainment System
Nintendo 64 Entertainment System
Nintendo Cube Entertainment System
Nintendo Wii Entertainment System

>>12090934 (OP)
It was called the Nintendo because in 1985 it was the only "Nintendo" people knew of.

>>12091996
mi negro

>>12091681
>your parents help you hook it up
It felt like such a massive achievement when I was finally able to hook my Nintendo up for the first time

>>12092873
giv madcatz milf gf

>>12091996
la de ese

>>12092968
pressing the power button on the first couple times was an achievement for me. then after maybe a year, i figured the red and yellow jacks went there and there, and the tv ports are here...and bam, i could take my nes anywhere on trips in hotels, other kids' houses if they didn't own games, etc. very memorable times. go on a trip to my cunt grandma's house? your tv is now my game, bitch, whether you like it or not!

>>12093016
>your tv is now my game, bitch, whether you like it or not!
I'm just imagining your grandma curled up crying and protesting in a dark corner while you play Nintendo with a sadistic grin.

>>12092968
>hooking up to the living room TV without permission
good times

my consoles are The Nintendo and The Sega System

>>12090934 (OP)
The context for this is that in the land of the free, if a product name becomes a common word the company risks losing all the rights to that product's name and everybody would be free to use it, unless said company proves that it fought to retain its rights.

They don't care that soccer moms call everything a Nintendo, on the contrary that's free advertising, this ad isn't for them, it's for the courts.

Such is the law in the land of the free.

>You see, "Nintendo" is an adjective, not a noun.
>signed, Nintendo

>>12090934 (OP)
>Yeah nerds, it's called a Nintendon't! Woo! Sega forever! To the extreme!

>>12091996
>no 'la famili'

>>12091509
I guess that makes sense in that they didn't want retailers referring to Genesis ot other consoles as Nintedos. Thought this message was for boomer grandparents. If that was the case then Ninte do could fuck right off

>>12091371
I've never heard that one before but the reasoning why it would have suddenly fallen out of favor where something like Band-Aid wouldn't is simply that it's not a mass market product like Coke. It was a very niche product that was used in specific sectors by the time it became mass market any branding that would have applied to it is gone.

>>12095274
lol

lmao even

>>12091069
It's a copyright thing. Asprin is a brand name but it's also the generic term for any pain killer so any company can make their own pain killer product and call it Asprin.
The NES or just "Nintendo" by the mid to late 80's was quickly becoming the default term for all video games, Nintendo feared this, they didn't want Atari and others releasing their own Atari Nintendos and has things like >>12090934 (OP) and the Nintendo Seal of Quality to reinforce the branding.

>>12092117
Shut the fuck up

>>12090973
fpbp
>>12091446
actually, nevermind
best post right here

>>12092117
Shut up bitch.

>>12090934 (OP)
Nintendo of America has always been gay as fuck.

>Nothing can be a Nintendo because that's our registered trademark
>Mario thanks you
>Mario is also a registered trademark
>There's no such thing as a Mario

>>12095782
>You see, "Mario" is an adjective.

>>12092714
I hear stories like this, and I assume they're being sarcastic. I refuse to believe people are actually this stupid.

>>12095304
>>12095414
>nintendies getting uppity at their retro-revisionism of pretending everyone called everything a nintendo
I heard "Sega" more than "Nintendo" as the catch-all.

>>12096404
Your anecdotal memory proves your experience and nothing else

>>12093001
le no

>>12094613
Nintendo of America

>>12091430
they had all those words to say that and they didnt. all they had to do was say NINTENDO IS A BRAND, OUR BRAND. NOT LIKE THE OTHER COMPANIES MAKING GAMES AS WELL. THANK YOU. them saying its a fucking adjective when its a brand name is stupid.

>>12090934 (OP)
>1990
Some boomer nerd really sperged out over that one.

>>12096402
The only stupid one is you for sticking your head in the sand like that over something so simple.

>>12091446
Lovely

>>12092103
He's right. And it made you mad enough to literally prove it.

Why are underage people like you insecure at being caught out? Why do you feel fear knowing that you'll never be able to enjoy anything made before you were born the way we did in our own time?

>>12096742
It IS an adjective in the phrase "Nintendo Entertainment System." The noun is "Entertainment System" and the adjective "Nintendo" specifies the type of entertainment system you're referring to. Calling the Nintendo Entertainment System just "a Nintendo" would be like calling a red apple just "a red."

>>12096404
the only catch-all is your mom when she gets raped by a pack of nogs every night

>>12091008
It's because American moms kept being stupid cunts and calling everything Nintendo, even Sega. So their trademarks would have been in danger if it became generic

>>12090934 (OP)
There's no such thing as Super Mario Bros. 2.
There's Mario Madness. There's Mario Madness: Super Mario Bros. 2. But there's no such thing as Super Mario Bros. 2. You see, "Super Mario Bros. 2" is a subtitle, not a title. It is a descriptor that identifies the high quality product marketed and licensed as "Mario Madness". So please use our subtitle carefully. And never use it to generically describe the second game in the Super Mario franchise.
We thank you. Mario thanks you.

>>12091069
>>12090934 (OP)
They got scared by the Band-Aid versus Adhesive Medical Strip legalities.

Under US Copyright Law you can't copyright a commonly used term, like "game." This has come up in legal discussions about copyright when a copyrighted name becomes commonplace, like using Band-Aid for band-aids even though Band-Aid is copyright of the Johnson & Johnson company and the generic name is "Adhesive Medical Strip."

Nintendo was worried when people were calling the Sega Master System and Turbo-Graphix 16 a "Nintendo" that they could lose the copyright on their own name in the US.

Silly, didn't happen and probably would never have happened, but it's a CYOA (cover your own ass) just in case.

>>12090934 (OP)
i call it my Nintendo Sega System

>>12095782
>Nintendo copyrights the name Mario
>anyone named Mario now has to pay Nintendo for permission to use their name

>>12091352
What's a proper noun

>>12099169
Similar to Xerox, Google or Photoshop. But none of these lost their protected status

>>12099414
They'll cover that later on in your ESL course

>>12090934 (OP)
>Nintendo is an adjective
Nintendo is an adjective, chud.

>>12099469
Different era now, America heavily leans towards corps in everything (xbox Activision deal should not have been approved) back then there was still a small possibility as a foreign company they might lose copyright

>>12099169
It's about TRADEMARKS, not copyright. You can't lose a copyright to genericization, but you CAN lose a TRADEMARK to it.

>>12099414
Nintendo is a proper noun which is used as an adjective to modify the term "Entertainment System" to turn it more specifically into the "NINTENDO Entertainment System" as opposed to any other company's Entertainment System.

>>12092107
>>12092128
>>12091446
I WANNA BE A HUMAN PLAYING

NOT A HUMAN SAVING

I COULDN'T LOAD THAT GAME UP IF I TRIED

>>12091069
Dipshit ESL
>>12100063
Shouldn’t’ve explained it to him

I like sony playstation nintendos the most.
Nintendo nintendos suck ass.

>>12091996
El plei
El plei dos

>>12090934 (OP)
Then stop calling piracy, piracy. It's cultural backups and shared museum piece enjoyment. I am the- master, of your system, nintendo.

>>12100063
The fart huffing marketing man insisted it is not a noun at all
>any other company's Entertainment System.
Nobody has ever called anything entertainment system, and said text also indicates that Nintendo trademarked the full name "Nintendo Entertainment System"\ so to act like "entertainment system" let alone "power" is just a product type like "game software" is absurdity.

This is just a branding thing that marketers loved to do back then, to claim that a brand name directly means some sort of value rather than it merely being an association of company's business activities.

>>12100063
Don't you mean it's used as a noun adjunct in a nominal phrase, or an attributive noun?

>>12100627
>Nobody has ever called anything entertainment system
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entertainment_system
>An entertainment system is a system of entertainment usually of electronic components that handle audiovisual, computers, video games, etc.
The Nintendo Entertainment System is the name of one specific entertainment system made by Nintendo. There are many different types of entertainment system, but there is only one Nintendo Entertainment System. That's why they were so particular about using the full name.

>>12100817
>literally just one stupid fag decided to fuck around with a redirect page for the NES and no one noticed because nobody has ever actually searched for entertainment system without Nintendo anyways

>>12100891
https://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/audio/a21987781/how-to-build-a-home-entertainment-system/
https://forestriverinc.com/files/Component-Manuals/Audio%20Visual%20-%20Multimedia/Furrion%20-%20Multimedia%20Model%20DV7200%20Instruction%20Manual.pdf
https://www.amazon.com/Monster-Portable-Entertainment-Playtime-Resistant/dp/B082349G1C
https://www.santaclaritaautosound.com/you-can-add-car-rear-entertainment-system/
https://www.carmax.com/cars/gmc/yukon/rear-entertainment-system
https://www.amazon.com/Bose-Lifestyle-Entertainment-System-works/dp/B01KZHOW3I
https://computerhelp4all.com/articles/what-is-an-entertainment-system.html#gsc.tab=0
https://www.theaudioinsights.com/best-entertainment-system
Retarded fucking ESL.

>>12100914
Calm down Rakesh
>AI clickbait word salad sloppa

Protip: back seat DVD players did not exist in the 80s

>>12100941
Nintendo did not invent the concept of an entertainment system, retard.

Nintendo: *helpfully educates people and protects their legal rights*
Spergs: NOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>12096679
Wow, you mean just like you?

>>12094612
It's exactly the same in the EU and anywhere else with a functioning legal system:
>An EUTM will be revoked if, as a result of action or inaction on the part of the proprietor, it has become the common name in the trade for a product or service for which it was registered.
>https://guidelines.euipo.europa.eu/2302857/1788260/trade-mark-guidelines/2-3-eutm-becoming-a-common-name-generic-term-%E2%80%94-article%C2%A058-1-b-eutmr

>>12099169
t. 12yo armchair lawyer who doesn't know the difference between copyright and trademark

>>12101454
Well, he also misses the point of how trademark protection works. The purpose of this page is basically to be produced in court if it ever needs to be, not to change consumers' behavior.