Thread 12093087

What other libretro cores frontend is there besides Retroarch? Retroarch triggers me for some reason, and I just want a nice desktop interface for all my emulation needs.

>>12093087 (OP)
>I just want a nice desktop interface for all my emulation needs.
Retroarch?

>>12093087 (OP)
What does the reddit frog have to do with that?

>>12093087 (OP)
Retrobat. You will never go back

>>12093087 (OP)
Bizhawk

>>12094457
>our name is RETRO bat
>so uhhh dude gamers love controllers and shiiet, put some bat wings on a contoller

CRINGE LOGO
holy frick

>>12094474
it should've been a pixelated Costanza or at least a Louisville Slugger with buttons on it

>>12094503
lol
It literally could have just been a retro (castlevania style) bat.

It reminds me of gamer apparel sold in walmart instead. When I think of retro games, my mind doesn't instantly go to a fucking controller. You dont even look at your controller, when playing.

>>12094474
I don't care for a damn logo. The front end is what counts.
Retroshart is a fucking space invader lookalike lul

>>12094546
I dont use Retro Arch either because I dont like the word "Arch"

Yes, I am autistic (self-diagnosed)

>>12094547
I don't use Retroarch because it's UI is godawful and some of the core maintainers are retards.

>>12094614
RetroArch just werks. The UI is like that because it gives you extensive options to do almost anything you want.

>>12095679
No the UI is like that because it's HTPC focused. There's nothing presented to the user that couldn't be done with a traditional windowed interface, you're just expected to use a controller.
In fact there's still the unfinished husk of an abandoned desktop mode in RA that would've done just that.

>>12095730
>unfinished husk of an abandoned desktop mode
Never really used it. How is it unfinished or abandoned?

>>12095734
>How is it unfinished or abandoned?
Because it wasn't finished and development stopped.
What kind of fucking question is that?

>>12095730
>No the UI is like that because it's HTPC focused.
...and because the devs are retarded. It's an awful HTPC interface. Clunky and overengineered with option-itis that buries the things you want to do under layers of other shit that makes it irritating to navigate.

>>12095730
You can literally use a mouse or keyboard

>Cascading options menu lists
This is functionally different to a windowed interface how?

>>12095969
Mouse input is a relatively new development, and adding it doesn't mean the interface wasn't designed for controller input.
To answer your disingenuous question: It's different because the menu takes up the entire screen, cannot be quickly navigated with a mouse, and cannot even be accessed with just the mouse.

RetroArch could satisfy all the shitbabies by hiding most of the options until a line is changed in a text file.

>>12096143
Nope, it would still be terrible MCP bullshit, and many of the devs would still be stupid assholes

>>12094130
There is nothing desktop friendly about RetroArch. All love my emulator folder like you wouldn't believe. RetroArch is still good for the more obscure stuff.

>>12094457
>No Linux version
>and it uses goddamn EmulationStation to boot.
Hard. Fucking. Pass. I hate EmulationStation 10x more than RetroArch, and even if I didn't, why the fuck isn't this shit on Linux?
>>12095679
It does and it doesn't. You have to acclimatize to its bizarre design decisions before it becomes usable, but it still beats the tar out of other multi-emulator UIs with consolized interfaces.
>>12096143
That's what other RA frontends do, and they suck worse than RA does. At least RA lets you navigate with a mouse, even if it's overly consolized.
>>12096283
It frustrates me how the RA devs refuse to take even the simplest suggestions to make their shit more user-friendly. I've grown used to using it for lack of better alternatives, but some of its design decisions still baffle me.

>>12095741
I was obviously asking for specific examples of features that are unfinished or abandoned.

>>12094153
It's the meme. To not post it would be strange.

>>12096609
>You have to acclimatize to its bizarre design decisions before it becomes usable
That's what I did and it works fine. Does everything I need or want an emulator to do. I'm currently playing MSX games using BlueMSX and I can switch to NES, SNES or whatever I want with a few key strokes or button presses. Retro computer emulation is a little less straightforward and RA is more console centered but honestly I have 0 complaints whatsoever at all. I can even download the corresponding box art, screen shots, etc for FREE, for almost anything.

>>12093087 (OP)
https://docs.libretro.com/development/frontends/
i'm looking through them myself, haven't finished yet and so far haven't seen any attempt to use gtk/qt or otherwise 'native' engines but maybe you will see something you like

I don't get why people hate Retroarch so much. There's some aspects of it that you gotta figure out but for what it's doing which is something pretty complicated to consolidate, it's good

>>12098158
i understand it. retroarch is completely controller/menu driven. ive you have ever tried snes9x or dolphin, its a very standard menu. settings are in the top bar and content just in the main window. in retroarch to do the same things requires you click through 15 hamburger menus. every button is 10x the size so you have to scroll way more. its just not computer friendly

>>12097658
I still wish there was something better. Something with the same feature set, but with a UI better optimized for desktop use. And don't get me started on RA's joke of a desktop mode; until the developers implement a launch option that allows it to run without the Ozone interface running behind it, it's pointless.

Thinking about it, you know what would be a massive usability improvement for RA's interface? A goddamn search feature that would allow you to jump to any setting just by typing it in. My BIOS has one, and control panels in modern operating systems have them too. They're an absolute godsend for navigating labyrinthine menus.

>>12097658
I still wish there was something better. Something with the same feature set, but with a UI better optimized for desktop use. And don't get me started on RA's joke of a desktop mode; until the developers implement a launch option that allows it to run without the Ozone interface running behind it, it's pointless.
Thinking about it, you know what would be a massive usability improvement for RA's interface? A goddamn search feature that would allow you to jump to any setting just by typing it in. My BIOS has one, KDE's system settings have one, Windows' control panel has one, hell even my Android phone's settings have one. They're an absolute godsend for navigating labyrinthine menus. There's a "search" option you can click in RA, but it doesn't do this at all. I don't know if it's just broken, or if it only works for games or some shit.

>>12097658
I still wish there was something better. Something with the same feature set, but with a UI better optimized for desktop use. And don't get me started on RA's joke of a Desktop Menu; until the developers give it feature parity with Ozone, and implement a launch option that allows it to run without the Ozone interface running behind it, it's pointless.
Thinking about it, you know what would be a massive usability improvement for RA's interface? A search feature that would allow you to jump to any setting just by typing it in. My BIOS has one, and control panels in modern operating systems (Windows, Android, KDE Plasma on Linux) have them too. They're an absolute godsend for navigating labyrinthine menus.
RA does have a "search" feature but I can't figure out what it's for because it can't actually find settings or games. As far as I can tell, it's a broken placeholder.

>>12096609
>At least RA lets you navigate with a mouse
Who tf cares about navigating it with a mouse lmao if you're using a mouse I got a perfect program from you to use. It's called "the stand alone emulator running on windows" that runs better, is more up to date and let's you use a mouse to your heart's content.

>>12100483
You had me until you said "on Windows." Fag.
But yes, standalone emulators are better than the bloated mess that is RA.

>>12100668
Using Linux over Windows for emulators offers absolutely no benefits most of the times and in a lot of cases you get worse performance or the emulator is Windows only.

>>12093087 (OP)
I don't think there is. Like you can use frontends that make it so you don't have to use RetroArch's UI, but I don't think there's an alternative frontend that can read LibRetro DLLs. That's... actually pretty odd?

>>12094614
>some of the core maintainers are retards.
I mean to be fair a lot of the drama towards them is weird too. The biggest case was when the original dev of Duckstation got mad at them for "stealing code" when it turned out all RetroArch did was warn him that someone else tried to pass Duckstation code as their own and they rejected it.

>>12094370
>>12094457
is there a way to make mame automatically boot into the correct orientation depending on the game? really annoying having to switch to 3:4 for shmups

>>12094130
This. Retroarch is based. I'm not sure what's triggering about it.

>>12102074
>says the namefag

>>12102085
You must /b/ lost friendo. Last time I checked, games we're supposed to be a good time. Sucks to be mad I guess. Maybe shitpost on /vr/ about it?

>>12102087
you're cool. hahah

>>12100483
>>12100668
>>12100742
The benefit is that I get to use an operating system I actually like. Windows stopped being good after 7. Most standalone emulators have native Linux versions too, and I do use some of them.