Thread 12093547

the *amount* of added time in remake managing inventory is nuts, because there are double the amount of puzzle items while the inventory slots for chris and jill are the same as the original. you are constantly running back and forth.

there are many more cases in remake where you have to squeeze through an area and killing is unavoidable. and i’m not talking about kerosene for burning zombies, i get that’s optional. the main issue with inventory is the extra puzzle items, not the means of dispatching zombies. in the original game you have a lot more leeway and ability to move forward in progress without constantly needing to go back and forth. there’s really no reason at all other than artificially elongating the experience for there to be as many extra puzzle items when the outcomes are the same. it’s shit design.

re 1-3 don’t have that problem, they keep it moving much better. remake taxes you and wrecks the flow of the game. don’t try to fucking tell me i should be cool with this because that’s how re games just are, because yeah they all have the item management but not to the retarded degree that remake does that adds way too much time and sucks the fun out.

>>12093547 (OP)
Yeah but Remake has the best graphics and atmosphere out of all thd classic style RE games. I feel like that counts for a lot.

i replay the original more and its permanently burnt in my brain but the remake is not. its kinda nice playing it every few years and not remembering everything, and yeah its much harder and more to manage

>>12093547 (OP)
4 is the only game remotely replayable today.

>>12093547 (OP)
REmake can be beaten without ever using the storage box. The game much higher learning curve to the original, but once you get it, its becomes just as manageable as RE1, but longer. I like RE1, but the games doesnt really have much going on at once and besides the difficulty spike when the hunters are introduced, only when playing the original US release, the game never gets hard, you just become so powerful that you can blow through everything.

>>12093596
we’re not talking about the 17th speedrun for spergs, we are talking about the game when you go to play it blind. it’s absolutely fucking obnoxious how much they ruined the og games flow. it’s a chore to play. the og is actually still fun

What bothers me are the door animations

How many low quality threads have you made about this?

>>12093547 (OP)
Snoys shit themselves that it isn't piss easy like the PS1 games. Many such cases. See also: Code Veronica and Zero.

>>12093754
refute a single thing in the op
>>12093760
remake isn’t harder, it’s just more tedious and has clunkier control

>>12093547 (OP)
this was rushed, and did not improve on the original. og game is perfect. remake somehow manages to make controlling the character more awkward, and now the character models are much too big on screen in comparison to the rooms, resulting in not being able to see often and running into walls or being in a cramped space when there should be ample room to to turn around. it seems it was not properly tested because it’s unacceptable that a remake of a playstation game on gamecube can’t even improve basic functionality. the original is still the best way to play this game, regardless of older graphics. people may forgive flaws in remake because it looks stunning. sorry but visuals don’t make the game, and remake falls short of improving on, let alone replacing, the original resident evil. remake is only interesting for a quick look, it’s a worse game to play and doesn’t match the quality of the playstation games.

>>12093971
this. very obviously rushed when you see the first barry betrayal in the game and they don’t even attempt to make logical sense as to why jill would start trusting him again. worst writing in the series.

>>12093596
playing as Chris on a blind playthru is very difficult, and not that enjoyable, also certain sections are just so slow by modern standards and i grew up playing the OG RE games on PS1, i'm talking about using hand crank on multiple objects etc...

SourceNext PC version of the originals with fan mods spoil me too much, i want fast fun momentum, not the RE HD remaster slog

>>12093547 (OP)
I feel it's been long enough that the consensus is that REmake really isn't as good as the original but it just looks so damn nice. The first and only remake that looks better than the original. Mostly. Alt costumes are still trash compared to OG.
If you like REmake a lot you probably owe it to yourself to play the original at some point. It's just got a lot tighter pacing and is better as a game.

>>12093547 (OP)
>the *amount* of added time in remake managing inventory is nuts
I have never had an issue with this, did you play as chris your first time? Are you walking around with a bunch of useless shit like a knife and carrying a nade launcher/shotgun/pistol at the same time?????

>>12094129
Yes, the inventory becomes a problem with stuff like the gasoline and lighter needing to be managed, new multi-piece puzzle keys, you start really feeling the inventory limits in ways you didn't in the original. Did you play the original?

>>12094135
Every room you need to burn bodies in is near a safe room. You do know you kinda need to plan right?

>>12094138
Yes, it's a lot more management. Dicking around menus is not RE at its best. Phrase it how you want, you're just agreeing with me.

>>12094140
Worked on my machine, literally never had an issue with it. Why are you carrying around the lighter and fuel throughout the entire mansion? Not my problem youre retarded and cant bring what you need.

>>12094045
While I don't hate the remake overall, I agree that Jill acts a lot dumber than in the original
In the original when meeting Wesker in the guardhouse she goes:
>"Where on Earth have you been? You disappeared from the hall all of a sudden!"
In the remake she's like:
>"It's good that you're safe!"

>>12094045
>Barry literally puts a gun in her face
>Jill disarms him
>"Give it back! I can explain, I swear!"
>She gives it back
>He never explains, she never asks

>>12094128
OG RE1 IS SO HECKIN KINO!!!!!!

>>12094143
there are DOUBLE the amount of puzzle items to collect and examine, combine or use. yet the same number of puzzles and no extra slots. therefore you are spending an insane amount of time putting things in the box and having to go back because for nearly every puzzle you now have doyble the tasking with no added space. it fucking kills the game. you are in a bizarre state of denial if you don’t see how this adds a tom of extra time managing items.

>>12094187
>finds random item
>hmm probably for a puzzle later
>put it in safe room box till i need it
Do you really go throughout all of resident evil 1 carrying every single puzzle item you find? Only to drop it off in a saferoom box when your inventories full???? Not my fault you can't handle simple things in a digital toy.

>>12094196
you’re being retarded on purpose. you can’t be this stupid. there are TWICE as many puzzle items in the remake, even though the puzzles are the same as the original. meaning you have to constantly run back, twice as much you would normally. because there’s added slots in the inventory in the remake. you have no choice but to do twice as much backtracking. making the game longer for the wrong reason. it’s the definition of tedium.

>>12094129
I've noticed the shitters who cry about having to constantly go back to the box carry multiple weapons and ammo or even the knife and ink ribbons. They leave the safe room with 1 or 2 free spots or none (!!!)

Obviously when you're new it's OK for this to happen at first but they literally never learn and go to the end of the game like that. Some kind of mental condition where they never ask themselves am I doing something wrong? No! the game is old and poorly designed....I'll keep running back to the box!

>>12094205
*there’s NO added slots
same limited slots, double the items required to find for a puzzle. you spend literal hours dicking around with the save room chest and just examining and combining items

>>12094205
>meaning you have to constantly run back
Your inventory management is poor.

>>12094214
stfu retard. i’m an re expert, i played the shit out of these games. i know how to fucking manage items. the problem is the remake adding two times as many items. you’re fucking full of shit, lying your ass off on the internet about a game anybody here can play. you’re one of those spergs who can’t admit there’s a flaw in his favorite game.

>>12094217
Maybe you should leave the safe rooms with more than 1 slot open? Maybe don't carry the chemicals meant for the plant everywhere? Maybe use the dog whistle as soon as you get it? I literally never had an issue with this. There's a map incase you get lost, going from 1 side of the mansion to the other takes like 2 minutes.

>>12094226
You're a shitter.

>>12094226
>the problem is the remake adding two times as many items
>I'm and RE expert!!
>wtf why are there so many puzzle items i gotta carry around this game sucks
>I'm going back to re5.

>>12094225
if you used the exact same inventory management from the original and you were great at the game, but suddenly the remake doubles the amount of items in the actual game, you are now going to need to visit the box more no matter how good you are at management, because there’s twice as many fucking items. you’re gaslighting in the extreme

>>12094234
>but suddenly the remake doubles the amount of items in the actual game
It doesn't though.

>>12094235
yes it does. it’s a fact. look it up. you’re fucking unbelievable, dude. such a lying sack of shit

>>12094234
>gaslighting

>>12094239
Record your next playthrough I'd like to see you constantly running back to the box you retard.

>>12094239
woah theres a fake key you gotta use to get the real key now! and a dog whistle you use instantly after getting it! so much fucking BULLSHIT DUDE!!!

>>12093581
Yeah I like how similar to Crash Bandicoot it has adaptive difficulty so the game gets easier every time you die.

>>12094249
Yes, unironically
In the original you can have a full inventory and you'll still be able to to grab the armor key because using the herbicide frees an inventory space
In the remake you need an extra space to grab the real armor key before putting the fake in it's place

>>12094249
retard, liar, obvious samefagging

>>12094257
no problem just eat a herb

>>12094259
reading comprehension not your strong suit?

>>12094265
Both don't need to go back to the box. There is no problem.

>>12094249
you’re giving one example. the point is you have many extra keys and puzzle-related items that you can’t use and need to store for later, there are more of then them than the ps version. until you have played it and have a feel for when you may need that item, you are definitely going to do extra leg work to the save room. it’s impossible not to, unless you are running around without a weapon or health item. considering the added number of these items, it’s absurd to suggest there is a way to play it (especially the first time) that doesn’t include a lot of extra trips to the save room. it’s kind of a ridiculous thing to do for your remake. they could have given you more slots if they were going to up the number of items so much.

>>12093547 (OP)
>there are double the amount of puzzle items

list the items in REmake that weren't in the original. I don't think there are that many

>>12094283
the item count is like 60 in re and 100 in the remake, total items. the piano puzzle now requires two items instead of just finding the music sheet. you have to go somewhere else for another sheet. it’s things like that op is referring to. i don’t think it’s fully double for puzzles but it might be. it is for sure that there’s a lot of puzzles that now require two items and a new location for the second piece, which you don’t know on a blind playthrough so if you’re going by the original to grant you a visage of the future of when you need to have an item on you, you’re now in the dark. you necessarily will be headed to the save room more often due to this.

that can put a bit of tax on time for visiting the item box. the original has it too. i remember it being more costly in terms of time for the remake. i don’t think op is unwarranted saying it’s not fun.

>>12094283
There's around 30 items that are not in the original:
https://www.evilresource.com/resident-evil/items
https://www.evilresource.com/resident-evil-remake/items

>between the 5 million people that bought the game plus rentals and second hand gamers there are probably 8 millions+ people who already played the original Resident Evil by 2001 already
>we need to add more bullshit so that they don't all finish the game in 2hours

Was the entire design mentality behind REmake

>>12094341
Nah, I think they just got excited and the original's snappy pacing and tight design was a bit of a happy accident.

Like I think if they were making REmake in a vacuum without following the original mansion, it would've ended up like RE3's sprawling mess of a map.

>>12094310
I forgot about the faggy X ray puzzle in the lab that replaced the cool little cipher with the Garden of Eden painting. That and the Bible verses on the passcode stubs also hinted at some weird religious bent to Umbrella's research that was completely lost.

>>12094172
You intended this as a rebuttal but all I see is a turn speed that isn't abysmally fucking slow to justify the quickturn.
REmake has blockpushing too, in the spider cabin.

>>12094381
It has the same box pushing under the Guardhouse too. Except the bridge is removed when you drain the water, so the trip to use V Jolt is a retarded detour through a bunch of completely empty rooms and loading screens for no good god damn reason other than wasting your time.

What's that? You said the game isn't tedious enough? Okay, we'll add an item that forces you to walk slowly :)

>>12094393
They picked that up at Konami's Castlevania garage sale. Same place they got the Clockwork Crypt (complete with spooky bleeding coffin and cursed book) and the giant bat from 0.

>>12094257
>>12094303
>waaah im a huge faggot that cant handle extra items
Never had a problem with it. Keep crying, I can beat RE1 remake in less than 2 hours, guess I am a quad digit IQ genius when it comes to item management. Kneel faggots.

>>12094453
well that settles everything, if you personaly had no problem then everyone else must be imagining the dogshit design

>>12094462
then everyone else thats crying must be shit at the game*

>>12094465
tedious design means that the first time you play it’s a lot less smooth, the pace is shit compared to the old game and it’s often for very dumb reasons like this
>>12094389
bloat to make it longer. that has nothing to do with being good at the game. mastering the game, surely you can beat it faster. but as a game it had been nadly designed, that’s undeniable. they wanted to add things but it wasn’t tested as well as the original. also even movement is less smooth, the character model behaves in a way that’s less fluid and that’s kind of insane that they couldn’t make an upgrade. it’s so much faster and smoother to control the character in the original. they may seem like small complaints but they add up to a lesser game. it’s not about difficulty. i don’t think remake is hard. i never died playing it the first time. it’s just a fucking drag in certain ways to get arounf in the game. it’s a downgrade in control, in particular.

>>12094476
>the pace is shit compared to the old game
please see
>>12094172

>>12094476
>i don’t think remake is hard.
You can't manage your inventory and run back to the box constantly. It's too hard for you.

>>12094480
i’ve played the games, both of them many times. a gif is not changing what i know about the games.

>>12094483
Then you should know re1 aged like shit unlike re2 and re3.

>>12094482
i was explicitly talking about a blind playthrough revealing a more tedious design than the original game. you are literally the most willfully dumb retard troll on the board.

>>12094453
>Never had a problem with it. Keep crying, I can beat RE1 remake in less than 2 hours
And? If I'm good at Superman 64 and can beat it in 30 mins does that make it a good game?

>>12094487
I'm sure many things are "tedious" for the retarded. Like getting dressed in the morning.

>>12094487
Everyone's blind playthrough of resident evil if them wondering around like a retard. I had to restart my playthrough twice the first time playing and I think I fucked myself later the third time.
>>12094489
Well superman64 doesn't have item management and people dont complain about running back n forth from an itembox. If re1 remake can be beaten in less than 2 hours then why are people crying about item management?

>>12093960
>posts a webm of the shit remaster version with analog modern controls and where the music is fucked up
Nice one you dumbfuck lol

>>12094493
bro you are underage. time for bed. you are not serious, your interpretation of the legit criticisms itt is bordering on sub retarded

>>12094498
You are underage if you spend 3 hours running back n forth from the saferoom

>>12094493
>I had to restart my playthrough twice the first time playing and I think I fucked myself later the third time.
ok you are actually retarded

>>12094495
Then I can also ignore every version of RE1 besides NA Longbox. Not that I need to because the remake has escape knives lmao

>>12094501
it’s unavoidable the first time you play because you have no idea where things are located. that’s why you can beat the game so much faster on replays. before you know, the game taxes the shit out you to an absurd degree. it’s not hard, it’s just annoying. that’s as many times as i’ll say it, you are a disingenuous sack of shit and a turbosperg who won’t acknowledge any deficit to your favorite game.

>>12093547 (OP)
the nightmare on elm street of game remakes. slick but charmless and pointless. and as anon said, it’s not fun.

i loathe this game. it’s everything wrong with modern videogames. it’s the beginning of the soulless, all-style-no-substance pointless retread gaming experience. i’m not blown away by the psx classic but i’ll play it over remake any day, though. this game is repulsive to me.

>>12094531
>doesn't like the original
>loathes the remake
are you retarded? why would you even play it then

>>12094541
i said i’m not blown away by it, that doesn’t mean i don’t like it. i think it’s a solid 9/10 game, it’s not mindblowing to me anymore. i played the remake because i purchased and played every resident evil game as they came out and i wanted to see if it was as good as it seemed to be from the magazine previews.

are you suggesting a person should never play a remake of a game that’s expected to be better because they didn’t have their mind blown by the original? that makes no sense. i feel like you’re mischaracterizing what i wrote. it’s my anecdote. what you put in greentext changes the meaning of what i said and then you are calling me retarded for it, are you sure you’re not retarded? you lack fundamental logic.

Bro lifting your shotgun in REmake is a longer, slower animation

>>12094559
>are you suggesting a person should never play a remake of a game that’s expected to be better because they didn’t have their mind blown by the original?
yes, remakes are almost always inferior products, and are almost always targeting the hardcore fans, not people who think the original is solid

>>12094593
>almost always
So they are better sometimes.
That means never play remakes because the internet says it's bad?
REmake is the best example of a remake of an old game and improving it.
REmake 2 and 4 are other examples.

>>12094593
not in 2002. i got them as they came out, as i said. the screenshots were amazing. my expectation of it being better wasn’t based on remakes because they weren’t a thing back then like they are now.

also, thinking the original is solid is not a reason to have lowered expectations of a gamecube remake of a 1996 playstation game. it certainly stunned visually but it’s a hollow retread.