Thread 12098352

What is the worst water level in a retro game?

>>12098352 (OP)
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xbox ninja gaiden. why

the one where i pee on your moms butt lol

>>12098352 (OP)
labyrinth zone

>>12098352 (OP)
Majora's Mask Water Temple

Ninja Gaiden Black is pretty bad

Golgo 13: Top Secret Episode, final underwater level. Your hitbox shifts like crazy including being different if you are moving or staying still, the spacing is very tight, and there are tons of mines that can kill you before you reach the end. The game is already brutally hard and unforgiving, but this section in particular is sadistic. Pretty much all of the underwater sections are that much harder than the other parts of the game with maybe the exception of the first person mazes, but that last one is just unfair.

Every water level in Blood. Blood is the only game that fades your screen to pitch black as you start running out of breath. Such a cheap shitty mechanic.

>>12098352 (OP)
The Labrynth Zone section of Scrap Brain Zone Act 3. I mean Labrynth Zone was awful but having to go through it again in a white and purple color scheme is...maddening.

>>12098356
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/v/ schizo folder dumper

>>12098352 (OP)
I almost can't decide what was worse, Atlantica in KH1, or Atlantica in KH2. The former has among the worst level navigation schemes in a game of its kind and makes battles infuriating, and the latter is barely even a game at all, as it's just a series of shitty rhythm minigame sequences. I'm leaning toward the first, as KH2 Atlantica is actually optional IIRC.

>>12098352 (OP)
Any sonic level with water.

>>12098363
Good morning, ranjeets

>>12098352 (OP)
The one in Powerslave is pretty bad

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The water level in DMC2 where you have to fight a giant fish boss that can turn invisible, and stays permanently invisible in DMD mode.

>>12098356
Is it really a level though?

>ctrl+f ocarina
>0 hits
Rare white pill.

The water sections in Powerslave are genuinely fucking godawful.

>>12098762
lol, no. Legitimately the best dungeon in the game, and one of the best "water levels" of all time.

>>12102391
Oot water temple is one of the better dungeons
Very satisfying central puzzle
Pretty cool boss
Item is lame but whatever.
The only real issue is the boots thing but its such a nothing burger.
Oh no like 1:30 extra minutes of pausing the game combined

I remember the underwater levels in Mega Man Legends 2 being AAAASSSSSSSS

>>12099216
The worst part is that you have to constantly activate and deactivate your oxygen supply if you don't want to use it up in five seconds.
On the other hand, I wonder if retro FPS game consisting exclusively of underwater levels would work if your character could breathe underwater.

>>12098352 (OP)
Labryinth Zone from Sonic 1 still gives me nightmares.

>>12102587
All MM dungeons suck. It's like they were added just because "all Zelda games should have dungeons".

>>12102917
Majora's Mask with zero "Zelda" dungeons and twice the Bomber's Notebook quests would be insanely kino

>>12102738
It would probably be kind of boring but not annoying. Kind of like always having Wings of Wrath in Heretic and Hexen.

>>12102738
>I wonder if retro FPS game consisting exclusively of underwater levels would work if your character could breathe underwater.
sure, as long as you disregard realism and don't change the player's momentum physics in the water. there are a few Doom wads that pulled it off fairly well.

>>12098352 (OP)
Water Temple / Ocarina of Time

Thought it would be the 1st answer

>>12098352 (OP)
Any Mario game, ever. Somehow, they never managed to figure out how to make water levels fun, despite Ecco the Dolphin managing to make an entire game the water level, and being fun as fuck.

>>12099946
This. If it's a water level you shouldn't drown. It should be fully underwater and you have to work around the reduced movement. Even TMNT's water level wasn't that bad since you at least had unlimited breath.

>>12102917
get off the drugs, the dungeons in that game are all great.

>>12103475
they're fine in SMW when you can hold a shell or key to swim faster

>>12098762
It's fine, people just hate it to fit in because it's a meme.

>>12102391
Water Temple's difficulty was an overblown millennial midwit meme that on exists because every late 2000s gamer content creator used it as the punchline to their AVGN tier jokes.

The temple is fine and actually requires some thinking to get through. Most players got filtered by missing the extremely obvious camera angle clue when they raised the platforms in the middle tower and didn't notice the hidden tunnel get exposed when the platform lifted.

Also one of the best soundtracks in a game that basically nailed every song.

>>12106302
They aren't. The flow is messed up, the layout of each dungeon tries to tailor to a specific mask but it fails to do something interesting with them since all the cool stuff is already done in the overworld.

>>12106998
>extremely obvious camera angle clue
Not extremely obvious at 240p.

i like the timed underwater escort mission xD

>Nobodies mentioned Spider-Man and the X-Men

Storm level. Simple as.

>>12098762
miles better than the one in OOT

>>12098352 (OP)
Megaman Legends 2 underwater dungeon.

>>12107860
That's my favourite underwater dungeon in any game ever. I absolutely loved it.

>>12098352 (OP)
AQUANAL

>>12106998
the only thing I ever heard about it was the tedium of having to constantly go to the inventory to select iron boots, the temple outside of that didn't seem to particularly offend people.

>>12108010
a lot of people get stuck because there's an easy to miss key. it can be kind of confusing. I think it's a very clever dungeon but there were a lot of rumors back in the day about potential softlocks (they don't actually exist)

>>12108468
This is the correct answer.

>>12098762
it's not even hard though?

>>12106998
isn't it possible to soft lock the water temple? I seem to recall it is.

>>12103382
Honestly yeah. A lot of the high points of that game was interacting with the NPCs.