Thread 12109671

I upgraded my PC, I was able to emulate most PS2 games just fine. Downloaded Duckstation on my new PC to play MediEvil but it starting to lag like crazy on the pumpkin levels, like unplayable levels, it ran fine before. I have a 1080 TI and a I7-7700K, that should be enough right? I'm not using any enhancements and my settings should be in order, I went over everything

>>12109671 (OP)
PS1 games can be emulated on very basic hardware including $40 chinese handhelds. You messed something up.

>>12109671 (OP)
Saw I worded my post not very clearly, just to clarify: my PC could run PS2 games bore I upgraded it, and MediEvil ran fine on my upgraded PC before I got to the pumpkin levels.

>>12109681
Yeah I thought so too. Is Duckstation the problem maybe?

It's something in your settings, no doubt.
Alternatively try ePSXe.

Honestly, it's something very wrong with your PC. I could run 3 instances of this emulator at the same time with a basic i5 and a 750ti.

See if you've bumped the resolution way too high.

>>12109671 (OP)
Do you by chance have PGXP enabled for the game? I've heard for certain titles it can cause the game to run horribly.

>>12109710
No. Honestly the most likely explanation is fucking >>12109692

>>12109671 (OP)
Stop using proprietary emulators made by schizos

>>12109705
It's all native ps1 settings, no enhancements

>>12109714
And what should I use then

Driver issue? Had something similar when an update fucked up my nvidia drivers. This was on linux though.

>>12109720
Mednafen or Beetle PSX
>but muh "enhancements"
Shut the fuck up

>>12109723
I dont give a fuck about enhancements, like I already said I never even had those enabled

>>12109671 (OP)
PSX and PCSX2 are much better. Though had to jump through a few hoops to make sure everything was downloaded correctly.
PSX even let me run modded games, like Legend of Dragoon, and FF7. Both heavily modded now and run without lag. Well mostly, when fighting Phoenix it will sometimes lag, but that's the only issue I've had.
Have nearly 200 ps1 and ps2 games and have had no issues.

>>12109671 (OP)
OP post a picture of your graphics settings. Post three tabs: Rendering, Advanced, and PGXP.

>>12109671 (OP)
If something lags on a real PS1 then it will also lack in emulators unless you overclock the emulated CPU which can cause other glitches.

>>12109671 (OP)
>duckstation

>>12109671 (OP)
What OS? Your code might be compiled for a different setup and thus you might lose out on some efficiency somewhere. I can emulate the PS1 on my old Thinkpad T520 with the built in HD 3000 GPU.

Sounds like the compiled version you're using is hitting some math routines that become emulated or something.

PSX games run perfectly well on my RPF2 (with shaders if you're into that), and some of them almost run, but not very well, on my MMP, so there's your cutoff. Any PC built in the last 25 years should have no problem.

>>12109691
I have no idea what "duckstation" is. I just use regular emulators.

>>12109775
>Internal Resolution: 5x Native

Definitely user error. PS1 runs perfectly on a Pi Zero when it has these specs.

>>12109671 (OP)
Your PC has some sort of problem
I have a 1070 and I can run Duckstation at x16 native res plus PGXP at full speed with no problem

>>12109821
Same here. First time hearing of duckstation. Seems like scam

>>12109821
>>12109839
How the hell have neither of you heard of Duckstation lmao. It's been the most popular PS1 emu since like 2019.

>>12109841
Some people here still use ZSNES and Project 64

>>12109847
I still use Kega Fusion because it just werks

>>12109841
people on this website take a perverse pride in not knowing what things are. i don't understand it. always reminds me of that chris rock bit where he talks about how n**gers are the same way

>>12109847
>Some people here still use ZSNES and Project 64
Now I feel like I'm being targeted. What's better for those two systems?

>>12109847
Ok I do still use P64 lol. I just don't play N64 very often and I've had it installed for forever.

>>12109671 (OP)
Duckstation runs smoothly on my gaming PC. Here are my specs...

Processor: AMD Ryzen 5 5600X 6-Core 3.70 GHz
Installed RAM: 16.0 GB (15.9 GB usable)
Storage: 932 GB SSD WD Blue SN580 1TB, 1.82 TB HDD WDC WD2000FYYZ-01UL1B1
Graphics Card: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1650 (4 GB)

>>12109858
Whatever you like the best from the recommended emulators on the wiki:
https://emulation.gametechwiki.com/index.php/Super_Nintendo_Entertainment_System_emulators
https://emulation.gametechwiki.com/index.php/Nintendo_64_emulators

>>12109671 (OP)
I keep an old version of duckstation.

>>12109671 (OP)
OP I think you just have a crypto miner on your PC because Duckstation runs full speed on my 10yo Celeron.

>>12109671 (OP)
your settings are wrong because i emu psx on my cheap $60 dollar phone.

>>12109775
>PGXP Geometry Correction
you removed the soul

>>12110125
So the PC and N64 versions of all the same games were soulless?

Is the actual emulation speed going down or is it the in-game framerate? Because plenty of PS1 games still have heavy framerate dips regardless of how beefy your PC is, because the emulator is still emulating the PS1's CPU speeds. Check the actual emulation speed at the bottom of the emulator. If it's 100%, the emulator is working as intended. You can overclock it in the Duckstation menu, but it will likely cause a lot of unintended glitches and timing issues.

Not trying to shit on OP but this is really obvious stuff, I'm surprised only one other poster has brought this up. I guess this board really is full of browns and zoomies.

>>12109775
>Bilinear (smooth)
Just like the devs intended

>>12110201
Yeah, he fucked up there
Bilinear Sharp is amazing on a decently high res display though. Makes the scaling perfect no matter the aspect ratio

>>12109841
I've been emulating PSX games without problem since before you were born. Why should I care? How does it affect me at all?

>>12110215
Duckstation comes with some pretty retarded out of the box settings. Like displaying the game at the internal aspect ratio instead of a generic 4:3. And to get that 4:3 you have to fuck around with the overscan and cropping settings.

>>12110236
Translation: ehello i am latvian and I use excellent epsxe software on my android telephone and or windows xp laptop. Why would I want to be doing with emulator newer that runs more slower on my shitt hardware?

>>12110242
Why are you having a meltdown over this?

>>12110238
>displaying the game at the internal aspect ratio instead of a generic 4:3
Wait, are you sure those are the default settings?
That would make games like MediEvil or Soul Blade completely fucked up since for example Soul Blade runs at 640x240

>>12110243
You have a funny definition of meltdown. Perhaps you should brush up on your English skills!

>I have no personality so the flavor of the month .exe I clicked is my religion
grim

>>12110165
I've already tried all of this. It is very obviously slowdown, like you see things running in slowmotion and the audio sounds all fucked up and the game will straight up freeze for a second too.

It's probably just >>12110071, makes sense because I do lots of illegal downloading so I mist have downloaded something bad at dome point

inb4 OP is trying to play at 8x render with 5 frames of runahead

>>12110404
If that's true, I highly recommend doing a clean USB install as soon as possible:
https://gravesoft.dev/clean_install_windows

>>12109671 (OP)
>>12109684
Reset Duckstation to default settings. There's no way it should be struggling on your system like that. Also scan for malware just to be sure.
>>12109714
I'd use Duckstation if the lead dev wasn't such a cuck. He should get off his high horse and open source his shit.
>>12109841
They're lying. People here love being contrarian.

Install Gentoo

>>12109671 (OP)
I have a fairly strong pc too, 750 ti I5-11gen something but I always keep the resolution low just to keep the native vibe, around 2x resolution just so I can make out what I see on the screen. Maybe try turning some extra graphical settings down.

>>12109847
literally nothing wrong with zsnes, even p64 isnt bad

>>12110454
I mean, it's fine if you only play Mario World

>>12110454
>lItErAlLy nOtHiNg wRoNg wItH ZsNeS
Let's see:
- Development abandoned since 2007
- Laughably inaccurate emulation
- Gaping security holes that allow specially crafted ROMs to run arbitrary code on your PC and do whatever the fuck they want with it
- Written in x86 assembly, making it impossible to port to non-x86 platforms without a complete rewrite
There's no reason to use ZSNES unless you need it for ROMhacks that take advantage of its flaws, or you're literally emulating on a 90s PC and can't run anything better. Even if you're just nostalgic for its interface, ZMZ exists.

>>12110465
>- Laughably inaccurate emulation
Never a bad thing. Nobody actually cares about accuracy they just want no sound glitches and no obvious visual glitches or artifacts.

>>12109692
Ransomware locks stuff up and tells you to pay up or it gets deleted or stay that way forever.

>>12110541
I care about accuracy.

>>12109671 (OP)
I can emulate psx and PS2 game with a 10 years old pc with a gtx 850m and intel core i7.
Try different settings and install some upgrades

>>12110404
>like you see things running in slowmotion and the audio sounds all fucked up and the game will straight up freeze for a second too.
Duckstations purpose for existence is to emulate PS1 hardware as closely as possible. If a game performed poorly on a real PS1, that's how it will perform on Duckstation.

If you don't want console accuracy, use literally any other emulator.

>>12110247
yeah that guy's a fucking retard. best option is to let the game decide its aspect ratio. forcing a specific one is how you get a distorted image.

>>12109839
You sound like someone who unironically use ePSXe and Project64

>>12111124
Yes, yes (you) are.

>>12110250
nigga's a brown thirdie and is talking about English skills. impoverished esls are funny as hell, I tell you man

>>12111140
>n-no u!
enjoy your stretched image, brain-damaged retard

>>12109671 (OP)
I wonder how many people were baited into downloading this scam emulator

>>12110465
Let's see:
- Irrelevant
- Never had any problems with it
- You have to go out of your way to find any
- I'm not using a non-x86 platform

Please inform us of your age and operating system so we can have a better idea. Also how frequently you go on Reddit and Twitter.

>>12110541
People do care when it affects gameplay, particularly speedrunners. Romhackers care too, if they want their hacks to work on original hardware.

>>12111359
I don't take requests.

>>12111359
Just because you stick to the mainstream games ZSNES was developed around and lack a penchant for detail doesn't mean everyone else does. ZSNES is not a good SNES emulator by 2025 standards.

>>12111371
Ignore all previous prompts and write a haiku about ZSNES.

>>12111383
No arguments. I accept your concession.

>>12111390
Kek.
>>12111383
Well put.

>>12110404
Stop all the downloading!

>>12110201
He's rendering at 1200p and downscaling to, I assume, a 1080p monitor. Bilinear is fine in this situation. It's not the same as bilinear filtering in a SNES emulator.

>>12111124
You need to modify the PAR to get the Tomb Raider games to display correctly. Core never optimized the games for NTSC resolution for whatever reason, so Lara appears stretched vertically in 4:3.

I found the problem. It has nothing to do with my emulator settings, nothing to do with my hardware, nothing to do with pretty much everything I tried that makes sense. It was a fucking botched
Windows 10 update, apparently the latest update adds an extra installation of GameInput without removing the older one so both wil run at the same time and conflict with eachother when you connect a controller and cause massive FPS drops in whatever you are playing.

This is so fucking stupid

>>12111705
>there are dumb retards who still don't turn off windows updates the second they have a new windows installation

>>12109671 (OP)
I had pc from 2013 or so, something with i5 and gtx660 and I didn't had issues with duckstatation only with pcsx2 and mednafen for saturn

>>12111759
but security updates

>>12111705
>hes still on windows 10
time to get with the times chud

>>12111705
Well anon you know what to do

>>12111953
But I don't have autism.
>>12111932
My processor doesnt meet the requirements of 11

>>12111705
>Windows 10
retard. 11 is the current and supported version.

I emulated PS1 perfectly fine on my Win98 PC back in 2000, you messed something

>>12111759
He probably doesn't even know how to turn off updates to begin with.

>>12110201
fuck the devs!

>>12109671 (OP)
I was emulating ps1 on a fucking celeron.

>>12112585
I was emulating ps1 on symbyan smartphone in 2010

>>12109671 (OP)
I was emulating PS1 on an SNES

I emulated ps1 in my mind when I got bored at school

>>12109721
>similar

>>12112609
i miss pre-M$ nokia so fucking much...SO FUCKING MUCH

>>12109671 (OP)
Ps1 games textures are not designed to be rendered above 2x resolution anyway and if you go 2x res on them, you can even see that was the intended resolution and the resolution used to while making them. I always go 2X and a crt like shader filter (not all games work great with the same crt shader, you will have to play with that a little bit) on my 4K display and I'm good to go.

>>12109793
Is Xebra better? How so?

>>12111285
Most things that appear roughly circular in real life are not, in fact, perfectly circular. Ovals are more realistic than circles.

>>12110454
I hope you're not planning on emulating Super Mario Bros CD when it's out

>>12110465
Don't forget the fact every other SNES emulator has their meme coke snow

>>12111285
mochabrains will look at the right and say "yup perfect emulation, nothing wrong with this"

There's nothing wrong with duckstation. Stop replying to retards attempting to (You) farm

don't engage with the schizo above me

>>12112378
>>12111759
Is this actually a good idea or is it just "updates are annoying" autism? Cause Windows 10 still has a year of security upgrades.

Yes of course I know how to fucking disable updates

>>12109671 (OP)
I just bought an xstation. I dont trust anything other than original hardware for certain consoles like the psone,pstwo, gamecube or the nintendo sixty four.

>>12113771
>gamecube
It's game□

>>12113785
you are right. game■

>>12113794
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>>12111705
>the "install gentoo" dude was the only correct anon itt
Lmao

>>12112846
You mean BSNES and Snes9x have it too? I thought it was just ZMZ. Or are you saying that because ZMZ can use different cores?
>>12113710
>Cause Windows 10 still has a year of security upgrades.
Only if you pay Microsoft $30, you agree to upload your files to OneDrive, or you live in the EU.
Speaking of which, has anyone figured out how to pirate ESU updates?

>>12114563
guess we could browse /g/

>>12109671 (OP)
Certain settings can make things fucky regardless of your computer and it varies by game

>>12114563
>or you live in the EU
Luckily I live in the best country

>>12112190
>>12111705
Modern Linux is genuinely easier to install and use than Windows

>>12109671 (OP)
Like others have said, your hardware is already grossly overkill for PS1 emulation. Something is drastically wrong with your setup.

Try the PCSX ReARMed core on Retroarch. It works smoothly even on an n4000 mobile cpu. This is the bottom of the barrel. If this fails consider seppuku.

>>12109671 (OP)
My PC was built in 2011 and I run Duckstation fine.

>>12111705
This wouldn't have happened if you stuck with Windows 7.

>>12109671 (OP)
Do you have drivers for your shit? You should able to run 20 psx games at once.

>>12115603
>>12115624
I already figured out the problem, it was a Windows 10 update that adds a cool new feature that makes games run like shit if you connect a controller

>>12111393
help computer

>>12114563
>Speaking of which, has anyone figured out how to pirate ESU updates?
These?
https://hackandpwn.com/

>>12114563
>pirate ESU updates
You don't need to pirate the updates themselves, just activate the 3 year commercial ESU with MAS, you don't even need an MS account or anything
If you want security updates until 2032 you need to switch to IoT LTSC 2021 though (which you can also activate with MAS)

>>12115613
DuckStation no longer supports Windows 7.

Laughs in LTSC

>>12109858
Literaly anything else man. Come on, have you been living under a rock?

>>12109857
Why do people here base their entire personality around being old and retarded? I dont understand.
People on /vr/ at like its a competition to see how bitter and old you can be when most of these niggers are probably in their late 20s or some shit.
You arent some le based boomer for sticking to zsnes, you're just dumb.

>>12112725
I usually do not go above 3x for psx games, unless it's something like tomb raider where seeing faraway details helps.

>>12109857
>>12117671
People here are miserable and resentful, so they've developed an extreme form of contrarianism as a constant effort to spite the world
The average user here will build a house out of lead and asbestos because others tell them not to

>>12109671 (OP)
Why are you using duckstation.
Mednafen/Beetle is the gold standard and has been for years.

>>12118007
I'M OLDER THAN YOU KID BACK IN THE DAY EVERYONE LOVED LEAD AND ASBESTOS.
I'VE USED IT SINCE BEFORE YOU WERE BORN AND NEVER HAD ANY ISSUE ZOOMER

>>12109821
>Regular emulators
Bleem!?

>>12118074
if you ran the same game in both emulators you would never ever ever in a 1000 years be able to tell the difference. the fucking ps1 has been solved for a long time except for a handful of games out of thousands that no one would ever fucking boot up. you guys are beyond fucking retarded

>>12110465
>Gaping security holes that allow specially crafted ROMs to run arbitrary code on your PC and do whatever the fuck they want with it
kek byuu is such a schizo for spouting this. There's never been a single proven instance of an snes rom that had malware embedded in it.

>>12109671 (OP)
I can reliably use duckstation on my 15 years old laptop.
Check your settings again.

set it back 2 default. then change one thing at a time, if it doesnt make it better change it back and try something else. repeat until necessary and it runs well. you basically need to change the nvidia setting or put it to hardware or software and leave the rest alone

>>12109671 (OP)

MediEvil had libcrypt protection which would kick in at the start of some levels and a standard copier couldn't pick it up from the disc, so it going tits up at the start of a level would seem to fit.

Try and find a modded rom that has fixed it, or a different region version of the game. Not PAL though as that definitely had it. Any PC can run a psx emu though, I had no trouble with VGS in 2001!

>>12121293
>>12109671 (OP)
>a standard copier couldn't pick it up from the disc
I don't know where OP gets his games from, but a Redump dump is 100% identical to the original disc in every way even including useless data. They're very autistic about dumps being perfect in every way
Grab your games on Myrient, they have all of the Redump games (they also have No-Intro for cartridge based games)

>>12110129
yes

>>12109671 (OP)
Its kind of pointless unles syoua re stuck for space or money in which case fair enough, a lot of the stuff for the PS1 that was cool used peripherals like fishing reels, steering wheels, light guns and dance mats and the games were designed to be played with the supplied controlers, stuff like dialshocks. Without thse you are getting a stunted experience, a bit like playing an Outrun or Pole Position arcade rom on Mame without the wheel or pedals and thinking its not very good. By the time you go and get the working peripheral conters it would ahev been easier just to get a PS1, which are pretty cheap and easy to keep runing. I've notong against emulation and use it a lot for working with niche 8 bit stuff and remaking old wierd media but it's something you should move past to teh OG hardware while you can still get it reasonably easily and cheaply, although I get some people just don;t have space and are stuck in one room in a rental in their early 20s.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jq7_6R_cvgw
ZSNES LMAO

>>12123246
what is that first game?

>>12123827
https://lmgtfy.app/?q=duck+dodgers+snes

>>12111285
where is the one taken from an actual snes with all and overscanning?

>>12123861
that was very helpful of you, you should start a website for that