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What's the best Star Trek game?

What’s wrong with his nose?

>>12122452
I think they just drew half his face and then mirrored it for the other half

>>12122463
Why would they do that would it even save memory?

>>12122463
That's clearly a photo.

>>12122463
Yes that's is clearly whats going on.
>>12122469
Yes, they just mirror the pixels instead of having to store the whole other half of his head. Back then, every byte was precious.

>>12122489
Patrick Stewart’s face is not that symmetrical.

>>12122520
I actually somehow 100%'d that game as a kid despite thinking it was shit even back then. Went back a few years ago and I couldn't even play it for more than 3 minutes without vomiting.

The Genesis version of ops puc us pretty good, but my favorite is 25th Anniversary

>>12122405 (OP)
PicaaciP

>>12122405 (OP)
a final unity

>>12122463
>>12123193

>>12123193
>>12123195
Based

>>12122510
it's PATTAP

>>12123195
>>12123193
why does stupid shit like that make me howl the most

>>12122405 (OP)
>best Star Trek game?
Elite Force 2.

Believe it or not it is sourced from a frame in tng when we first see Picard in Encounter at Farpoint

>>12123225
hey, thats some great chiaroscuro, perfect for some doodle exercise. thank you for sharing, it's been a while since i've seen the episode/s

>>12123217
IT'S BEEN A LONG ROAD

>>12122405 (OP)
xtrek

>>12122405 (OP)
Elite Force 1 and the Armada games

>>12123225
nice, you can see they fucked it up by making it symmetric lol

>>12122505
modern vibecoding zoomies would wind up in the bathroom crying if they had to work in the constraints of 90s game devs.

>>12122405 (OP)
I always loved Klingon Academy, buggy as hell though. I remember the mission against Earth crashed my pc many times

I've only ever played Judgment Rites but it was pretty good.

>>12122463
Clever

>>12123837
You cant see the other side of his face

>>12122405 (OP)
A game where i can play as some french bald guy???

>>12125267
That's your criteria??

>>12122405 (OP)
I've been watching TNG after seeing a few episodes of SNW and Discovery, and it's so goddamn kino, leagues apart from everything else. I don't know why I had this image of TNG being like the original series and thinking "this shit is way too camp, like Adam West's Batman"

>>12125605
Have you not watched TOS? It's really not very camp outside of a few episodes. Go watch The Doomsday Machine if you don't believe me.

(Discovery is garbage IMO, SNW is kinda shitty but only gets about as stupid as Voyager did) Check out DS9 if you like the serious stuff, it's fantastic.

>>12122405 (OP)
This game had an insanely detailed database. I remember spending hours reading all the entries.

>>12125605
Check out Balance of Terror, The City on the Edge of Forever and The Trouble with Tribbles and you'll get an idea what most of the show will be like. Balance is my favorite overall. The one thing that produces the camp is the low budget. Other than that it was surprisingly good when i started watching all of it some 7 years ago.

>>12125605
didn't have a tv as a kid, watched an episode of tng at a friend's and told him it rocked
went there again and he showed me tos not knowing the difference and i thought it totally sucked

>>12125921
Makes sense, budget, special effects, and production quality for TNG was much higher, which kids will pick up on. If you can see past that surface stuff, TOS has a lot going for it.
In particular, the chemistry between Kirk, Spock, and McCoy is something later Treks have struggled to replicate.

>>12122469
It saves quite a bit of memory actually, especially since the image is dithered and thus has less reusable areas.

>>12126714
Also, it was probably done at the last minute to trim the game back to 16M

>Star Trek invented the TURRIRRUT meme

Who knew

>>12125640
>(Discovery is garbage IMO, SNW is kinda shitty but only gets about as stupid as Voyager did) Check out DS9 if you like the serious stuff, it's fantastic.

Based opinion. I also recommend DS9, first season is a bit rough but stick with it. Are there any good DS9 games?

>>12125640
>SNW is kinda shitty but only gets about as stupid as Voyager did
Voyager gets a lot of hate in the community, but after actually sitting through all of it recently, it's severly overhated. The premise gets thrown out of the window pretty early on, which is where a lot of the stupidity stems from, but it has so many good "syndication" episodes which you can just put on without much context. and 7of9 gets wrongly accused of being sorely coombait, maybe that was initially the idea, but the characters is really good, as all slightly autistic/robotic characters are in Trek. And i dont even hate Neelix, they didnt give Ethan Phillips enough emotional moments, because he can carry intensity. When Tuvok busts a move for Neelix at his farewell, i legit started sobbing like a faggot.

I digress. all i want to say is that Voyager isnt nearly as stupid as Nu-Trek, just a little bit here and there.

>>12126875
Would have been nice to have more emotional Neelix moments and less of the doctor crying about something.

>kess, kess! I used your likeness in my program what its like to have a family, and now i am experiencing... erectile dysfunction and my mothrr in law is riding my ass like there is nooo tomorrow and now i want to have our son circumcised and-beep doctor to the bridge to take over all duties!

>>12123225
Yeah I realized that, there's just some slight touch ups to give him the collar of the later season uniforms and to sorta beef him up a little, Stewart started hitting the gym at some point during TNG

>>12126875
I sort of agree. Nu-Trek absolutely makes Voyager look good.

But conversely, coming off of DS9 makes Voyager look terrible. It has some incredibly dumb episodes, but has some really good ones too.

>>12126924
>Would have been nice to have more emotional Neelix moments and less of the doctor crying about something.
seriously. the episode where he died and is brought back only to realize there is no afterlife really underlines that neelix doesnt have to be goofy all the time. and the doctor also has some good emotional moments, especially with seven, but he wasnt given enough to work with. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGpLrGOEI3Y

>>12126947
>But conversely, coming off of DS9 makes Voyager look terrible
to a degree. DS9 has some awfully sloppy ending arcs. The political/war stuff is top notch, the bajoran deity shit feels like an afterthought.

>>12126961
>the bajoran deity shit feels like an afterthought
It's from the pilot episode.

>>12122697
>25th Anniversary
Correct answer.

>>12127012
>It's from the pilot episode.
i know, but its obviously one of the elements they took from B5 and havent developed much beyond the initial idea. precursor aliens and godhood is an interesting theme to explore, it just falls short by the end.

>>12125267
It's baldkino for sure.

>>12125248
but what if you could??

>>12122405 (OP)
>best game
25th Anniversary, followed by Rites and A Final Unity
>>12125605
>mushbrain zoomer/millennial says tos is campy bc le graphics
>>12127017
They should’ve just done like sg1 did in s8 and had an entire 90 minute episode devoted to wrapping up various plot lines accumulated over the years.

>>12122405 (OP)
should I watch the original serie or the Next Generation ?
I have the original with the original voices, in english, but Next generation with voice overs in french so I'm torn because I'll have trouble focusing if the lip-sync is bad

>>12126875
Neelix hate always felt forced, as if trekies wanted their own Jar Jar Binks to shit on.

>>12128713
Assuming you're French, both series are on Canal+ (in English)

>>12128713
They're both good, though late TOS and early TNG are not so good. I'd watch both.

>>12122405 (OP)
Which was the one that lets you take on Kobayashi Maru complete with option to cheat on it like Kirk did?

>>12122405 (OP)
Really only Point and Click adventures work for Star Trek

>>12127064
Name another

>>12122452
they were too cheap to spring for a 4mb cartridge so to save 250kb of data they mirrored his face.

>>12122489
You can literally see the exact same pixels mirrored RETARD

>>12128235
>mushbrain zoomer/millennial says tos is campy bc le graphics
Nah, it is a product of its time. It's just missing Shatner carrying a big cartoon bomb around the Enterprise, aged very poorly. TNG aged like fine wine

>>12129575
Bullshit

>>12129019
Hitman series is the most prominent baldvania I would say

>>12122405 (OP)
elite force 1

>>12126875
>Voyager gets a lot of hate in the community, but after actually sitting through all of it recently, it's severly overhated
No, you're just have really low standards for what constitutes good television.
>And i dont even hate Neelix
Ohhhhh you're bait posting.
kys faggot.

>>12128832
Not true. There are great trek fps and ship sim games. Star Trek just hasn’t had the kind of investment from devs other franchises like Star Wars got because the trek fan base is notoriously older and was already middle-aged in the 90s when pc gaming started to take off.
>>12129575
Nonsense. Next time put down your phone, pay attention, and look beyond the special effects.
>TNG aged like fine wine
S1, 2, and a lot of 7 did not. Again, I can tell you’re focusing on the look of the show instead of the storytelling.

>>12126875
>>12130234
Voyager was decent until they abandoned the premise of the show after s3. The show became more and more generic after that, with too much focus on seven and the doctor. It lost all its personality and sacrificed almost all of the cool storylines it started with in favor of more borg.

>>12125673
Same. I remember getting to a point in the main quest where I couldn't figure out what to do, so I would just fire it up to read the computer entries and randomly warp to planets to see if I could find anything, or blow up some Romulans on the way.

I loved how pissed Picard would get if you just opened fire on enemy ships you encountered before answering their hails. Made it way easier to kill them, though, lol.

>>12130581
>S1, 2, and a lot of 7 did not
Season 2 has Measure of a Man. Your argument is invalid.

I only really disliked the early seasons of TNG as a kid. There are still a lot of interesting plots and ideas, permeated by the odd, unsalvagable episode. But even those are more genuinely interesting and thought-provoking than modern TV slop, so I always cringe whenever anyone says "YAH TNG GOOD JUST SKIP TO SEASON 3 LOL".

>>12130590
>Voyager was decent until they abandoned the premise of the show after s3
They abandonned the premise of the show almost immediately. The entire concept was "what if a single starship had to survive apart from the federation and suffer actual consequences" and the only time it ever really delivered on that concept were things like the Year of Hell two-parter, which ended up being an alternate reality.

Season 3 of Enterprise was better at being Voyager than Voyager was.

>>12130613
>measure of a man
The exception that proves the rule, cmon. S2 has a good handful of great episodes, but it’s not the period of the show everyone remembers fondly (for good reason).
>enterprise s3
Agree completely, good point. Also, why no Enterprise games? Missed opportunity.

>>12130835
Btw I’m saying all that as a huge trek nerd who could watch s1/2 all day long

>>12130590
>more borg.
Don't forget more "time travel." Brannon and Braga apparently got it in their heads that City on the Edge of Forever is a beloved fan favorite that always gets into "top 10 Trek" lists not because it was a masterfully written story by Harlan Ellison, but no, it was clearly because it had time travel. So they just started to stuff time travel into everything.

>>12130995
>Edge of Forever

I'm actually watching this episode, as we speak, and loving it.

>>12128806
Starfleet Academy.

>>12130995
Voyager is the weakest of the og trek series despite having one of the best Star Trek games to its name (elite force). Enterprise was a much better show, people can mock the intro all they want, idc.

>>12122452
He's gay.

>>12122405 (OP)
although they're not retro. star trek online and the mass effect series are my favorite trek games.

>>12126772
i'll never get why they put chris having a stroke on the boxart.

>>12125605
>>12125640
nu-trek imo is basically...
orville > lower decks > strange new worlds > discovery > picard. (i haven't seen enough of prodigy to rate it).

disco as it's own thing is an okay to mediocre sci-fi show but is a terrible trek show (which checks out since they plagiarized a video game for the main plot of S1 & S2) while picard is arguably worse because it's such a boring show. it feels like they took 3 TNG movie scripts and decided to stretch them out into 3 seasons of a TV show.

>inb4 b-but season 3 of picard was GOOD!
this is what season 3 of picard reminds me of...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OfJRm0WssOE

>>12122405 (OP)
Buttbuttin's Creed 2/Ezio Trilogy is a Star Trek game because John de Lancie is in it :D

>>12132903
Protect less

Elite squad, the first one, dont know how good the sequel i s also klingon academy, good space battles, nicemixof ships (klingon,romulan,starfleet,somealiens) can target different ship parts (engine,weapons, warp core, etc), teleport troop across and hit themwith a tractcor beam

>>12122489
They could still only use half his photo to save space then mirror it.

>>12122489
you can mirror photos anon

>>12128713
Watch both but download TNG with original voiceover first

>>12123831
Elote force, yeah.
2 is good too, but not quite as.

25th anniversary is great too.

>>12126849
The fallen is supposed to be at least solid, but I've never played it.

>>12126875
Voyager was always one of my favorites. Everyone else is a faggot, except you and me. We should get married no homo
But really, it's got a lot of fun episodes. And it doesn't hit lows as low as even tng, though it doesn't quite reach it's highs either.
Also it has my favorite trek game, EF.

>>12126849
>first season is a bit rough but stick with it

>I will make you some of my famous OOOOOWBERJEEEEN stew.

It gets a lot better after the first Episode, which is a rough, rough start. Some great political intrigue though. Still, hammy acting and Star Trek go pretty hand in glove, so perhaps I should lay off Avery Brooks.

>>12122405 (OP)
Depends what you mean. I feel like the P&C adventures (A Final Unity, 25th Anniversary) both cater more to the spirit of an actual Trek episode.

Elite Force is objectively a really fun game, but Star Trek was never really about blasting things into smithereens. The more Trek-y bit of that game is the add-on where you can explore Voyager, talk to the crew and fix things.

>>12138194
>And it doesn't hit lows as low as even tng
Going past warp 10 caused crew members to turn into giant salamanders, which I'd say was even dumber than the TNG "de-evolution virus" episode.

>>12125605
TNG is a real mixed bag especially in the first two seasons. Even later seasons would have the occasional shit episode and sometimes otherwise decent episodes would be brought down by all the sanctimony.

>>12130581
Part of the problem with Star Trek is that the appeal is really multi-faceted. With Star Wars you have a two obvious action domains to focus on: lightsabers+blasters and space combat. Easy to make whole games that heavily focus on one or the other and satisfy the itch. With Star Trek, it's harder to focus on one without feeling like other parts aren't getting enough attention. Focus on planet-side away team stuff and I miss voyaging on The Enterprise. Focus on spaceship dynamics and I miss the planetary exploration.

Maybe there's a game that nails the balance, I stopped trying to find them a long time ago.

>>12122697
It's glorious. Would recommend let's play by a English speaking dutch weirdo Dilandau.

>>12140156
Way back, when I was an isolated kid in the 1990s I tried to come up with the ideal Star Trek game based on my love of TNG. What I later discovered is that I "invented" the visual novel. I just wanted the Picard speech equivalent of that My Dinner with Andre game from the Simpsons.

>>12132897
>people can mock the intro all they want, idc.

IT'S BEEN A LONG ROAD

GETTING FROM THERE TO HERE

>>12140870
That song is a piece of prime cheese and could even have made a good outro, but a Star Trek theme needs an orchestra.

>>12126772
but i love that meme

>>12122551
The joys of having time as a kid

>>12130613
One of the core premises of Voyager was the crew trying to survive while it comprised of two factions that hated each other, which they also abandoned immediately by just having all the Maquis just assimilate into starfleet

>>12122405 (OP)
I really enjoyed A Season for all Seasons on SNES