Thread 12125226

My fucking god did this game's quality drop off a cliff in the last three levels.

But with a box like that, how could you resist?

>>12125226 (OP)
There isn't any cliff in Thief 2

>>12125226 (OP)
>in the last one level.
ftfy

>>12126040
Last level is one of the best. The one before that though...

>>12126070
Second best

>>12127768
Nah, that would be Casing the Joint. The actual cleaning is boring, especially the part with the masks.

I have a soft spot for Masks even though it's a bad mission. I like how it has a red moon while raining.

kidnap is the single worst mission in the game, but
>use the city map twice
>kidnap recylces the lost city from t1, but with all the interesting stuff striped out
>casing/masks uses the same map yet again

>>12125226 (OP)
Last mission is appropriately large and complex. Better than how the first game ended.

Anyone interested in shitty little lore videos? (Only canon stuff, no FMs and no Thi4f)
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLmqYHnLFUbaKbL9ZprgRQnKqrM3UtYF53

>>12125643
please don't play games because of the box

>>12125853
There's a cliff next to the lighthouse in Precious Cargo

>>12126040
to be fair it was made in the last 4 months stretch if the prototype leak is anything to go by.

>>12125226 (OP)
>>12126040
Soulforge is good.

I've been playing nothing but Thief for 2 months straight now. First GoldtoDark, then Thief 2. Now I'm bathing in FMs. Having a blast, I've been sleeping on this for way too long. NOBODY pushes Benny around.

What you don't like being an Amazon delivery driver?

>>12133908
It's hard pissing in cans

>>12134838
Gatorade is King

>>12130063
hey i was watching a few of your vids some weeks ago and enjoyed 'em, i'll try to watch the whole series

>>12135912
Thanks. I have a new video coming tomorrow and another one two weeks after that.

>>12127898
>The actual mission is boring
Weird take. Casing is mostly empty with hardly anything to do.

>>12136956
I just liked exploring the level with all the secret passages. The next mission doesn't have this novelty in exploration, so even though it's supposed to be more interesting because of increased challenge, I wasn't very interested.

The last level is fine. I dislike the reuse of multiple levels, however.

>>12130064
If the box looks interesting it's worth checking out, and if it's a bust its not a big deal. That's how it used to be done!

>>12137102
Its pretty obvious why exploring Masks isnt as fun. But thats less the fault of Masks itself, and more the fault of the devs deciding to make Casing and Masks a 2 parter at all.

Eidos mandated that Thief 2 should have that many missions. That's the reason there's so much recycling, with Casing, Courier, and Kidnap.

>>12125226 (OP)
I disagree, it's quite good and the climax being an ultralarge monstrosity of a level is a fitting and satisfying cap to the tone of the Metal Age.

>>12130064
I will play whatever games I choose and you cannot do anything about it. Keep your whining and hurt feelings to yourself.

>>12142162
Courier is honestly the worst of the three for me. Entire premise feels like what would have been a pre-mission cutscene in most other cases.

>>12144479
It would be fine if they mixed things up a bit, like give you access to different houses that were closed in the first city mission.
But yeah, they had no time for that, since they were closed right after the game's release. And then the same happened with Ion Storm and Thief 3... Is it some sort of curse?

Karras' voice gets super annoying after hearing it on every surveillance device. Sometimes the voice samples overlap.

Taffers, I need your help. The last few fms I played were mid, please recommend a good one, preferably some pre-ND obscure kino.

>>12136956
It mixes things up by focusing on intelligence gathering and having detection be an instant failure. I can't even remember how the mission plays once you actually do it for real.

>>12144479
It was kinda cool to see more of the city, but IIRC it's just the Ambush level rehashed.

>>12146608
Ever played The Taffer's Tower? Pretty obscure, and I thought it was fun

>>12146703
Noted !
Please keep them coming - I need my fix !

>>12144368
>it's quite good and the climax being an ultralarge monstrosity of a level is a fitting and satisfying
I feel like there are some legitimate complaints to be levelled against Soulforge, but I personally do agree that it's severely underrated as a finale and is probably the best level in Thief 2's latter half in-spite of its flaws.

What really makes Soulforge the best final level in the trilogy is that it tests all of the game mechanics that the player has used so far in the series. Anyone who liked playing in the Mr Sandman play style their first time can attest to the fact that Soulforge was a difficulty cliff, because you could not just remove every threat and then explore freely. You had to manage your resources, selectively remove threats, and actually use stealth to get past enemies in the absence of a universal ability to get rid of them. It's the first time in the series that a level has made you play it like a stealth game, not because of forced ghosting or alarm restrictions, but because it's too hard to play it otherwise.
You are not there to win a fair fight. You are there to cheat, by facing an army with overwhelming firepower, and not letting them use a single bit of it. Stealth is the act of winning by not letting your opponent play.

Last level filtered me, harrrrd. I save scummed the ever loving shit out of it. I was playing it on expert because I wanted all the mission objectives. Probably made the encounters and damage output crazy-hard toward the end, though.

>steal thyself away, heheh, heh
got me

>what has thou builst, garrett?
he's got a point, garrett the type of dood who'd log into servers in minecraft and just steal resources and not even build anythin'

>>12150710
I agree, it's kind of fantastic from that angle. I still think it's kind of repetitive in some ways and maybe a little over-long, but it really makes you play as a sneaky guy who needs to not get seen.