Thread 12143015

RPD is a complete downgrade from the mansion.

The whole game is a downgrade. It's no longer horror, and the series became shit.

>>12143015 (OP)
I think they're both great settings

The RPD from 1.5 would have been a complete downgrade, whereas RPD from 2 is not.

>>12143015 (OP)
Purists are autistic retards that don't deserve to have opinions.

>>12143015 (OP)
>why dont they just keep reusing the mansion in every game bros

>>12143015 (OP)
spooky mansions are always, always superior.

I prefer the Museum (RPD) to the Mansion, but RE1 puzzles blow RE2s out of the water.

>>12143371
RE never had good puzzles, even the best RE puzzle can't hold a candle to Silent Hill.

>>12143383
I mean it's true that Silent Hill has better puzzles, but this isn't a Silent Hill thread lol. Comparing RE1 to RE2, RE1 has significantly better puzzles, and they're honestly not that bad. The crow art hallway and the chemical mixing are both pretty decent puzzles.

>>12143015 (OP)
Nobody believes this

>>12143042
>>12143371
I think it would have worked well if the Museum was cast as the Raccoon City Hall and a small 1.5-style RPD was connected to it via tunnel or another street section to serve as the Guardhouse equivalent.

>>12143406
Playing 1 and 2 back to back will lead you to this conclusion.

>>12143406
I do and you're either going to have to live in denial or accept it.

>>12143015 (OP)
I've never cared for RE1. Original or remake.

>>12143406
It's so fucking lopsided. Who thought the police department layout was even a good idea? Say what you want about the mansion, it works well on multiple playthroughs. After you realize what the fuck is going on with the rpd, its kinda off-putting

>>12143609
The immediate forced backtracking is a giant black mark against 2. RE1 had nothing like that. The mansion was much more open to explore right off the bat.
>Go from main hall to STARS office to get the medal
>Go from STARS office back to main hall to exchange the medal for the key
>Go back from main hall to STARS office to unlock the door beyond it

>>12143015 (OP)
It does overstay but the Underground Lab is peak

Irons being a secret serial killer is still a weird narrative choice. It’s one thing for him to be bribed by Umbrella, but why have him kill and taxidermy the mayor’s daughter?

>>12143713
Not to mention his secret, torch-lit medieval torture chamber hidden within the police department.

>>12143015 (OP)
raccoon city to me IS classic resident evil not the arklay mansions or rockfort island.

that said i did end up liking RE3 more than RE2 in my playthrough of the series.

>>12143202
i always find it funny how capcom really wants to do a RE1 remake in the modern style but realize that REmake already exists so we get homages like the spencer estate in RE5 or the baker plantation in RE7.

>>12143383
I mean most puzzles are just "put the doohicky-shaped thing in the doohicky-shaped identation"

>>12143991
Much better than the rigamarole puzzles that make up Silent Hill.

>>12143740
One of the files names him as a rapist too.

>>12144006
no,you are just a retard.

>>12144006
uh no
sh puzzles actually make think a little

>>12143647
Hey, someone saved my webm
Had to make it when I realized that indeed, this is literally the only way to progress at the beginning of the RPD. It's just comically blatant padding
I still love RE2 by the way

>>12144098
Yeah and it would have been a pretty simple fix too. Make the Spade Key open that door at the top of the stairs if you go through the East Office. Or leave it unlocked and make the key unlock the door leading outside, whatever. At least give the player an alternate route to the second floor.

>>12143402
Those are two of my favorites too, earlier in the RPG campaign I'm running, I shamelessly copied a ton of the spencer mansion for a spooky mansion for them to go through, and those were two puzzles I carried over

>>12143597
Thsn FUCK YOU!

>>12144146
Also, the fact that none of the keys in RE2 unlock more than 3 doors is a good example of how linear the game is compared to RE1
In RE1, the Armor key unlocking 6 different doors gives you a lot of freedom when it comes to how you want to progress

are the remakes worth it? i used to play 2 and 3 when i was young but i dont feel like playing the originals now

>>12144750
/vr/ will tell you that any remake is inherently bad, but I think the RE1 and RE2 remakes are decent
The RE3 remake is liquid shit though. Haven't played the RE4 remake
Just to be clear, I don't think the remakes are better than the originals

>>12143015 (OP)
nothing wrong with re1 or re2, the 3 remake is an abortion though
>>12144750
I played the originals when it came out on PS1. RE2 remake is pretty good and faithful, RE3 remake is absolute garbage. They turned nemesis into a cucked faggot so zoomers wouldn't break down crying trying to defeat him. I like the RE4 remake too.

>>12144750
yes anon play remakes, original games are stinky and outdated and look bad. the heckin remakerinos made all this shit obsolete.

>>12143647
its not like any first time player managed to dodge each and every enemy in the game

>>12143383
Silent Hill's puzzle logic is halfway to the moon at times and even gets obfuscated by poor localization. There is no clear winner when it comes to puzzles but overall, even Cope Harmonica mogs every Silent Hill game.

>>12143458
Not at all

>>12144912
>RE2 remake is pretty good and faithful
Fucking how
How is REmake 2 faithful. Leaving aside how it's entirely different mechanically, it literally does a 180 on characters narratively. What part of that is "faithful".

>>12144750
>>12144897
for RE4R i'll say...
+it has better combat.
+it fleshes out luis & krasuer.
+taking care of ashley feels less like babysitting.

-it's less campy and doesn't have alot of the charm the original has.
-the removal of OTEs ruins some of the setpieces.
-no assignment ada or any new content ala RE2R's ghost survivors.
-separate ways (paid) & mercenaries (free) are DLC.

>>12143647
resident evil in its core was always a metroidvania

*pursues you down the hallway at a leisurely pace*

>>12145998
Sweet, the merchant that lets me exchange handgun rounds for better ammo is here!

Your face is a complete downgrade from the mansion, how about that.

>>12146623
This is me, you wanna say that again?

>>12146660
Making a survival horror game in the arklay woods would be so fun but they keep making slop

>>12146660
Y-Your face is a downgrade, boulder puncher.

>>12143647
you literally get forced back into the mansion after you get to leave it for a while, much gayer than getting a medal in the first 5 minutes of the rpd

>>12143015 (OP)
The coldest take ever posted on this board

>>12143020
how is it any less horror than the first game?

>>12145998
not a single re game got him write not even darkside chronicles & their models were super faithful to re2 concept art

>>12143647
2 is very linear and one of the ancestors of modern movie games. There's no alternate choices or outcomes like RE1, no different endings. You see the same scenes in the same order and get the same endings every single time no matter what you do.

I agree. The mansion had more sequences that had you outside in a nicer setting: an outdoor garden, a pool surrounded by snakes, and a fountain area leading to a secret lab.

Meanwhile RE2 mostly has you running around inside a police station with a hidden torture room and a secret path to a hidden lab that goes through the city's sewers. The few times you are outside, you're on metal surfaces leading onto or off of trams.

>>12146613
It’s comical how easy it is to put down Mr. X. It gets doubly hilarious in Nightmare/True Hard mode, because in some encounters he legitimately takes less handgun bullets to take down than common Zombies. It’s just a no-brainer to save handgun bullets to take him down in the last stretch of the R.P.D to get some easy Shotgun/Magnum/Grenade ammo.

>an eccentric mansion built by an autist for some rich faggot family is less interesting than a police station in podunk, USA?
Shocking faggot
RE:2 and the police station are both still great though.

>>12149054
true but theres 4 different scenarios. i prefer re1 myself but at the time i thought 2 was way better

You know you've been on 4chan too long when you read the unironic take of "Resident Evil 2 is the ancestor to movie games".

>>12149816
>barebones gameplay thats barelly challenging
>braindead puzzles that dont require any thought once you are older than 12
>doors loading screen and unskipable cutscenes take a huge portion of the runtime once you know the game
yep,movie games it is.

>>12149821
It gets really obnoxious around the time you hit the sewers and lab. It feels like you're getting interrupted by a shitty talking scene every 5 minutes.

>>12149834
RE1 has 8 cutscenes in the first 10 minutes of the game

>>12149821
Might as well dislike the entirety of classic RE at that point

>>12149993
why would i,i got nothing against movie games.
MGS is in my top 5 PS1 games.

>>12149816
What game is Claire playing?

>>12150068
Your favorite PS1 Capcom game

>>12143713
I always sort of thought it was the outbreak that pushed him over the edge but he has that torture/dissecting room under his office so plus he got rid of his sectary and that was before the outbreak

>>12148763
It certainly lacks the feeling of isolation of RE1.

>>12151826
Opposite for me. Racoon City and the RPD embody the feeling of despair and danger that I think is missing from most of the other RE games.

>>12145998
And he will catch you eventually. Pretty cool villain.

>>12151826
your isolated in RE2 as well save the occasional run in with fellow survivors/team members just like in 1

>>12145998
I don't know if it can be understated just how fucking cool this guy's presence was as a revelation. You thought you just beat the game and it was so good you figured you'd give it another whirl right off the bat only for it to airdrop giganigga on you 10 minutes in. One of those little things that having the internet killed part of the magic of.

Isn’t he dreamy?

>>12155593
they should have made him asian

>>12149816
Why is her Playstation upside down?

>>12152262
>>12153731
But unlike the first game, you don't slowly discover the whole situation.
It's just "the whole town is already overrun with zombies". Doesn't feel like horror to me.

>>12155806
launch unit

>>12143015 (OP)
Fuck that, it's like 700 trillion times more interesting. 7000 trillion, even.

>>12143302
They're very limited, and Capcom knew it. They had to add an underground lab to make it worthwhile.

>>12144750
Very much so, yeah. They're their own games but they're pretty good, especially RE2make and RE4make.

>>12155961
I'm very limited too and I don't require more than spooky mansions.

>>12155593
Hey. It's up to us to take out umbrella.

>>12155992
>leon later appears in the umbrella court cases

>>12155815
It's a different kind. That's like complaining that Dawn of The Dead isn't a good horror movie because the whole country/world is zombifying already.

>>12156337
It’s a lot more actiony than Night of the Living Dead, and I would say the same for RE2 in comparison to RE1.

RE was a one-time thing, the cat's out of the sack. There's a reason why there's a distinct difference between REnjoyers and RE2+ fanboys. The original RE2 may have been good, but they literally scrapped it for being like.. the only good RE game. Fucking retards.

>>12143015 (OP)
Experiencing RE2 in 320x240 with door and cutscenes skip mod on a PC is a closest acid/shrooms-like experience I had while playing the videogames. It's so damn smooth, especially if you know what you're doing, but your last playtrough was 20 years ago.
>>12155992
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FJN76pBp-U
>>12149816
>passionate babymaking sex with Claire

>>12155992
>Umbrella is taken out by the stock market

>>12156702
Well yeah. Its most realistic outcome that Umbrella would be financially ruined. All the characters were doing was finding evidence of their bullshit to get hearings and prosecutions started. Did you think they were just going to shoot Spencer in the face and high five each other?

>>12157412
Yea in a fucking game w zombie dogs and giant mutated humans w a pension for stars team members, the series absolutely should not have ended on a one off note about the main villains being taken down by stocks. If I wanted that I’d watch a boring documentary. It was a stupid decision then and it’s a stupid decision now. Yes capping Wesker in a final scene after he maybe had betrayed umbrella
Leadership and taken control would’ve made sense for the game world and would’ve been a more satisfying conclusion then “lol stonks stopped the evil corp!” Basically the characters never needed to do anything. None of their testimony or evidence did anything it was, ya know, being responsible for having an entire city nuked.

>>12157421
Yes I hope a city having to be nuked would end the company responsible. The characters didn't do fuck all anyways. Claire was captured and barely managed to escape. Chris and Jill went after Spencer only for Jill to be captured for years and Chris to create counter bioterrorism team. Leon became super agent man. I don't think I single character did anything that actually took down Umbrella other than scramble like idiots and almost get killed

Would you have sex with Claire?

>>12158051
She's attractive and knows how to take care of children so I would marry her

>>12143647
ignoring the lictor and jogging around all the zombies like 5 times is extremely funny and disrespectful kek

They're basically the exact same thing you fucking retards

>go to the only available path
>run into a bunch of key bullshit
>you get a choice of a couple branches
>which way around you do it just depends which key bullshit you did first
>open up another branch by completing the other key bullshit
>mover forward to find more key bullshit

RE2 has a smoother progression of key bullshit, but it's still the same key bullshit

Yeah... Claire......

>>12158068
Chris... Stop it.

>>12158295
it's kinda funny how she's maintained relevancy despite only appearing in two games.

like even in universe she just joined STARS as a medic at the time of RE0 & RE1 and after that she basically fucked off for 19 years.

>>12156702
>>12157412
>>12157421
>>12157965
>Did you think they were just going to shoot Spencer in the face and high five each other?
nah but this definitely reminded me of how ada implies that there was some deus ex/metal gear solid level conspiracy theory bullshit where umbrella was just a tip of the iceberg to leon in RE6 and it's never brought up again.

>>12158386
It's really a shame. Cutest RE girl. by far.

>>12158318
What makes you think he’s Chris? He could be the ghost of Steve for all we know.

>>12158318
DON'T OPEN THAT DOOR

>>12158295
>Death Island
What the fuck did they do to her

>>12159278
>>12158318

BLOOD!

>>12159424
The characters look weird in the CG movies.