Thread 12152475

Is it a big spoiler that you control Raiden in MGS 2? Would I be missing the impact by knowing this already?

What the fuck? Don't you mean you play as Snake, right?

>>12152483
You do play as Snake at least for a minute. But then he changes his code name to Raiden at the last minute.

No , the bigger spoiler is that its all fake and AIs such as the Colonel are controlling everything

american g*mers were very upset they had to play as a cute guy

>>12152475 (OP)
it was an enormous and unpleasant surprise to people at release, the entire game was meant to be you as snake adn take place on a supertanker

>>12152475 (OP)
it is unless you read the manual

>>12152475 (OP)
Do you consider reading the manual a spoiler? Of course not, retard.

>>12152475 (OP)
No. The meat of MGS2 is basically
>Go live your own life as best you can
Knowing about the switch doesn't negate that.

OH MY SCIENCE IT'S SO HECKIN META AND POSTMODERN
HIDEO?
FISSION MAILED?
LE COLONELS LE PRESCIENT SPEECH
OH MY KOJIMA I'M KOJIMING OUT

>>12152475 (OP)
Read the manual.

>>12152475 (OP)
Reviewers were pretty quick to spoil that.

>>12152475 (OP)
It's as much of a spoiler as Sephiroth killing Aerith at this point

>>12152898
wtf spoilers

>>12152475 (OP)
it's one of those phenomena that's pointless to worry about past the time it was actually a new unknown thing in the zeitgeist. you're never going to be able to relive turn of the millennium nerd culture, you're never going to surprised by one of the most mainstream pieces of vidya lore. just don't worry about it and focus on the journey.

>>12152475 (OP)
no. mgs2 reflects at length on all of its twists, the initial shock value is only a small part of the experience.

>play tanker
>it's just a lame retread of mgs1
>turn it off
>years pass
>read spoilers about raiden
>intrigued
>play the entire game this time
>it's just a lame retread of mgs1

>>12152475 (OP)
No, the spoiler is that it's not actually some genius future-predicting masterpiece. It's just another goofy ass but fun Kojima game.

>>12152475 (OP)
It was just a bait and switch to piss off MGS1 fan boys, it doesn't matter whatsoever

MGS2 is really fun and one of those games that you notice a lot of new things each time you play it. You could read a whole synopsis of the plot but still come away with a different point of view. It is often overshadowed by MGS 3 but 2 is such a surreal experience that it's worth playing at least once in your life.
As always, you can ignore the anons that are offering glib dismissals or remarks.

>>12152475 (OP)
>Is it a big spoiler that you control Raiden in MGS 2? Would I be missing the impact by knowing this already?
Yes. Nobody knew. I was on GameFAQs all the time back then when it came out. Nobody knew anything about the game after the tanker because Konami didn't release anything. I remember the day the came out and after I beat the tanker that night and started the Big Shell thinking that anything could be possible. The first game was known for twists and mindfucks so even though I was playing as Raiden I knew there would be twists, and maybe Snake would be in it later? The message boards were going crazy. Everyone hated it, but I loved it.

>>12152475 (OP)
No. The Raiden reveal was aimed at people who had played MGS1 and wanted a sequel just so they could play as Snake.

>>12152732
anti-kojima shitposting is so embarrassing.

>>12152475 (OP)
Not at all, play it regardless. Sure Raiden is no Snake and he's a bitch, but he has reasons for being a bitch.

>>12155346
I know Kojima was the first time you experienced anything vaguely post-modern, but to anyone actually well read, i.e not gamers, MGS 2 is a fucking joke

>>12155357
we're all very impressed youve read finnegans wake anon

>>12155362
>UH DUDE INFORMATION CAN BE LE MANIPULATED
Woah...that's so profound dude...
How about if you're such a LE CREATIVIDAD you fucking worked on your games? That's why Konami kicked him out, he literally didn't do shit
Same with Shitagaki, these primadonna game dev faggots fuck around then get mad at consequences

>>12155357
we get it already its so funny to say Kojimbo instead of Kojima, you see the names arent the same! Reddit is down the hall.

There's no point to being "well-read", when you still cannot communicate basic thoughts without acting hysterically aggressive. /v/irgins are tiring to read.

>>12155383
people like that are far more concerned about the image they present rather than actually discussing the substance.
>you like X? well Y came FIRST and I like that more than you!

>>12152475 (OP)
It was at the time in 2001. No one expected that you'd spend 75% of MGS2 NOT playing as Solid Snake.

>>12152501
It's like starting off a Tomb Raider game as Lara, then suddenly a short time later you're playing the bulk of the game as someone else. It's bullshit.

>>12153404
>people enjoy playing as this character I made?
>well fuck those guys
Why are hacks like this

>>12153404
>>12155896
I don't think Kojimbo was that vindictive with MGS2. Supposedly Konami focus tested fujos and they said they didn't like old rugged men like Solid Snake so they made Raiden. If anything seems like Kojima didn't like Raiden since in the next game he makes him Volgin's gay masochist lover that you end up killing.

>>12155364
>LE
Your mind is a clot of memes working together to simulate an annoying human.

>>12152475 (OP)
as far as i'm concerned MGS2 is twin snakes, tanker chapter, snake tales and MGS:mobile.

>>12155357
>>12155364
it also doesn't help that we know virtually EVERYTHING about MGS2's development from the original script and plans to even what got recycled for MGS3 so all the post-modern crap really is just a bunch of pseudo-intellectuals reading way too much into something to find meaning that doesn't even exist without wanking dead author theory in a vain attempt to appear smarter than they actually are.

it's all just fart huffing at the end of the day.

>>12156993
Imagine hating MGS2 being your whole identity. You probably think you're really smart for doing it, as well.

>>12152475 (OP)
It was a big spoiiler back in the day. Realizing that the Zone of the Enders demo disc was all the Snake you'd get in the entire game was a huge let down.

>>12157002
>Imagine hating MGS2 being your whole identity.
not really. i just don't think it's the "misunderstood masterpiece" that psudes like yourself masturbate to.