Thread 12156008

how bad is story in this game?

A 4?

Fun and enertaining/10

VIII: Great story, bad characters
IX: Bad story, great characters

>>12156008 (OP)
The story is fine, but it's just told in a really weird way. It relies heavily on foreshadowing and implications to a fault, and some important plot points aren't mandatory to view.

>>12156081
Only good character in 9 is vivi

>>12156008 (OP)
It has a good story.

>>12156087
There is a large amount of exposition and lack of "show don't tell", too.

>posted it again award
it's fine, it just got cut a lot, especially the laguna/ishgar part. pretty sure adel was originally meant to be the final boss. also i'm convinced the whole "gf make us lose our memories" was tackled on at the last moment. heck the whole gf thing seems quite undercooked given how they are introduced as if they were part of basic school curriculum yet they are never really brought up again as part of the lore.

>>12156129
this, and it also requires like 5 playthroughs to really get everything that is happening since the "tell" moments are quickly forgotten

>>12156110
Steiner is a good character

A 5/10, but no mainline FF has ever gone beyond 8/10. The world however is quite interesting.

>>12156008 (OP)
One of my favorite takeaways is that the design of Esthar was directly influenced by the design of iMac G3, and half the dev team thought it was stupid, but they put it in anyway

>>12156382
i never heard this but it's instantly believable, i always loved the wacky esthar designs that didn't fit with the rest of the world

>>12156382
Oh God, those things. My school had them and I fucking hated using them.

Great story, poorly executed.
You really have to go out of your way and read stuff on the PC and talk to NPCs multiple times anywhere you can access every time the "game moment" changes to get a real picture of what's going on.
As someone mentioned, the game was heavily cut due to time constraints or disc space and they cobbled it back together with asspulls, story band-aids, and hidden dialog.
At least on the first playthrough it has this aura of mystery about it, but you'll probably notice a few asspulls and be confused about why Laguna matters.

>>12156008 (OP)
The story is the games strongest point. Confusing, yes, but really great and the only FF story that can compete with VII.

>>12156373
>master swordsman, top marks in exams, loyal friends and even his teacher wants to fuck him
squall buddy you turned out alright

I got through disc 1 and there was no story, just random events that weren't too interesting full of literally ONLY comedic relief characters. It's baffling.

>>12156008 (OP)
It has a sense of being overly ambitious and convoluted. There's a lot of interesting concepts introduced
>child soldiers with gradual memory wipe due to their training
>remote viewing of past events relating to a current war
>villain from another time who wants to merge all times together
>malignant moon in the sky that sends monsters to earth on rare occasions
But all of them are very shallowly developed when just one could carry a whole game by itself.
>>12156202
Yeah, I also suspected a lot was cut after Disc 1. The space section feels like something deserving of more importance, but you're not there for very long.

All the characters besides Squall (and maybe Seifer) have the depth of a puddle. But Squall as a protagonist is great, shame he has basically no chemistry with Rinoa. Their romance comes off a somebody's virgin fantasy rather than a believable, blossoming relationship. Most FF romance stories are terrible though.

Frankly, I don't like the game much overall, the only real enjoyment I got out of it was the RPG mechanical side of things.

>>12156569
>Most FF romance stories are terrible though
IX was the only one to do romance realistically.

why are people constantly talking about FF8 in the last year? I've always liked the game so I;m not complaining, just curious why everyone is 're evaluating' it and making threads all the fucking time. more than 7. very odd.

>>12156391
It's less about "cut content," more about "I want to be SHOWN everything without any effort."
>I have to talk to NPCs?
>I can't just watch cutscene?
>4 MINUTES!? That's, like, 7 Tik Toks!! I don't have TIME for this SHIT!!!
>I'll just repeat what clip I saw of a review once on Youtube 10 years ago --- That'll prove I'm a gamer and I know what I'm talking about.

>>12156614
It's literally one dude, he's been making them for years on /vrpg/ and now he moved here since the moderation changed.

>>12156575
Couldn't agree more.

>>12156642
This. I'm surprised most people haven't caught on

>>12156614
It makes sense. I beat the game a couple months ago so now the entire world has my memories and remembers the game, so they bring it up to trigger my attention.
I liked it. Heartless Ultimecia was a surprising design.

>>12156382
>and half the dev team thought it was stupid
so only half the team had a soul uh?

>>12156008 (OP)
I'd really like to say the story is bad, OP. But the game would actually need to have one first.

>>12156441
Success doesn't turn into happiness if you burn yourself out in the process.

>>12156382
Source for this bullshit?

>>12156081
accurate. though I dont think viii characters are bad, just alright. when they actually give them some characterization, its good. but that clearly wasnt a priority. and ix has a mix of great characters and a few awful ones (amarant, eiko, kuja)

>>12156430
X story is better than both, even if as a game its not as good.