Thread 12159162

Are respawning enemies cheap or fair?

respavning enemis is excellent exemple of sittu design of megamen

>>12159168
kek

>>12159162 (OP)
It's kino because it forces you to actively engage with the enemy design and keep a constant forward momentum.

>>12159162 (OP)
Respawning enemies alone isn't enough to determine fairness. It's situational.
If the player is shown that enemies respawn in a moderately safe environment, they now know to expect that behavior and can plan around it. Not doing so would then be a fault of the player and not the game's design.

How about neither, fucking retard? What kind of dumbass binary question is this? Zoomer shitstain trash really needs to be erased from this board.

>>12159162 (OP)

In resident evil outbreak and resident evil outbreak 2 the respawning enemies feel unfair because bullets are very limited.

>>12159162 (OP)
It's necessary for that game because it's the only challenging part of it.

>>12159162 (OP)
They're annoying as hell, but I imagine they're hard to avoid if you're working with bankswitching and limited RAM. I much prefer games on later platforms where the enemies actually stay dead after you kill them.

>>12159162 (OP)
Respawning enemies are the main thing that makes that game good. >>12159226 is correct.

>>12159226
You know what else forces you to keep moving forward? Autoscrollers, we all love those, don't we?

>>12159263
They're obsessed with Good Game Design™ that all games need to follow, consequence of growing up playing standardized crap

>>12159162 (OP)
Whenever someone interviews at my company I sit them down and ask them to play Ninja Gaiden. If they can't beat the game, I mark down "does not meat technical standards" and put the application at the bottom of the drawer.

>>12159162 (OP)
Depends on how they respawn. If you die or leave the area and they're all back, fine. But if it's immediate shit like in OP, then meh.

>>12159226
I remember reading an interview with the Ninja Gaiden devs and this precisely why it was designed with respawning enemies.

>>12159162 (OP)
Mostly tedious, but passable if they're needed to reach some tricky platforms.

>>12159162 (OP)
I've never liked it but don't really mind it in older games. It's way less forgivable when it happens in non retro games though, like in Fallout 4.

>>12159162 (OP)
Fair, but I swear the first time I played it I thought it was glitching, it just doesn't visually look right.

>>12160926
>way less forgivable when it happens in non retro games
I don't know man, just 100% finished Indiana Jones and the Great Circle, and it always pissed me off when all the enemies had respawned in some area if I left for 5 minutes.

>>12159162 (OP)
In the case of Ninja Gaiden it was clearly designed to have you deal with enemies as part of the platforming so it makes sense.

>>12160938
Yeah, it's the same shit in Fallout 4. Clear out an enemy camp and they would all just respawn later after a few days. Total downgrade from New Vegas in that regard.

>>12160690
But in NG they don't respawn automatically and indefinitely like in gng.
>>12160859
>Autoscrollers, we all love those, don't we?
I do, timers as well.

>>12159162 (OP)
I literally posted a webm like a year ago. Explaining how ninja gaiden is like momentum, and respawning enemies encourage not stopping.

op is retarded and probably a zoomer

>>12161008
Cool TAS