Thread 12164027

Playing on emulators is superior to the original hardware in 98% of cases

>>12164027 (OP)
Name one advantage of emulation other than
>Pause anytime
>Fast-forward function
>Remap controls
>Easy piracy
>Remove slowdowns

I'll stick to real hardware, thanks.

>>12164043
>eternal preservation of the games even when all plastic has completely rotten
>basically free
>no extra flash carts or ODEs needed
>no memory card and cart memory shit to worry about
>doesn't take up extra space
>can use basically any controller in existence with it
>can emulate on portable devices

My PS2 died.

>>12164067
it had a good life

>>12164043
>name an advantage of emulators BUT DON'T NAME THE ADVANTAGES

>>12164043
You forgot the best one: using superior controllers. N64 with an Xbox controller just makes sense.

>>12164043
>>Pause anytime
>>Fast-forward function
>>Remap controls
>>Remove slowdowns
You didn't beat the game.

>>12164043
You forgot graphical improvements

>>12164054
oh shit, 3 minor visual bugs

>>12164118
That don't exist on real hardware. I won't settle for a downgraded experience, thanks.

when emulation is a 1:1 experience there's nothing wrong with it, until that happens PS2 games are better played on an actual PS2

>>12164043
Creating your own cheats to either make things easier or just generally fuck around with the game

>>12164086
I think you missed the tongue-in-cheek nature of the post

>>12164043
less input lag than real hardware
widescreen patches
easy save transfers
on the fly texture editing

>>12164043
>Bug fix patches
>game improvement patches
>translations for Jap-only games
>better graphics
>achievements for those who are into that

>>12164027 (OP)
>Playing on emulators is superior to the original hardware in 98% of cases
Or 100% of cases in PAL regions

>>12164027 (OP)
Real, while collectorchuds are spending 200+ on discs , with my usb drive, autobleem and psclassic i can have the same thing with all sorts of new system settings and more games in general

>>12164063
>preservation
Emulation is not preservation as you're playing an interpretation of what someone else deems accurate.

>>12164221
it's the same game on better hardware
"interpretation" makes it sound like it's an entirely new game

>>12164226
It's not the same game. I get that you're a lifeless loser so you wouldn't understand the pain of a loved one die then a hollow emulation of them appears acting 99.5% similar but deep down you know it's not the person you loved. Until you understand this you will never get it. Now go outside kid.

bro is comparing emulating Super Mario to a "loved one dying"

>>12164221
Neither is playing on original hardware, since console models between manufacturing cycles have different firmware and BIOSes on them which affect the games, sometimes subtle, sometimes not-so-subtle. There are PS2 games that won't even run on the PS2 Slim, or which won't run on launch-date PS2 Fat consoles.

>>12164238
even ambient temperature affects the console and causes drift in the quartz oscillator, making even the original hardware not completely "cycle accurate"

Actually if you're not playing the game on the day of release it's an entirely different experience

>>12164043
name one advantage of pizza other than
>it tastes good

>emulate PS2 game on Macbook M4
>zero heat generated
>4% CPU usage by the emulator
>zero fans, zero moving parts -- completely quiet hardware, room remains as cool as a cucumber

>>12164067
Good motivation to learn some electronic repair.
Just don't start with the poor PS2, you will absolutely destroy the first few things when trying to repair them, no matter how many youtube videos you watch.

>>12164067
>>12164258
My original PS2 slim (with the laptop style power adapter) stopped reading discs... I'd like to resurrect it for nostalgia sake (I have a newer slim that works, and a phat with harddrive+FMCB)

>>12164043
>name one advantage aside from all these, these don't count because they otherwise would ruin my argument

>>12164258
I took my old PS2 fat apart to clean the disc laser lens with no experience just reading a guide and had no issues.

>>12164027 (OP)
There is a time to emulate and a time to play OG hardware. Only a sith deal in absolutes. Or taking the weak bait.

>>12164117
If you're not playing PS4 games in the original 480i via composite, you didn't beat the game.

>>12164253
I live in eastern europe and can't afford food, so food analogies anger me.

>>12164320
Yeah and 98% of the time you should emulate

>janny having a meltdown mass-deleting threads
>this one stays up

>>12164413
Why are you mad about people discussing emulation?

>>12164235 God tier bait
>>12164331 erm actually you need to be playing in rf on a tiny monochrome crt with mono sound and the output needs to mess up mid-game so you have to twist the RF cable and bang your fist on the TV to make it work. SOVL SOVL SOVL

>>12164170
unless the cheevos are heckin problematic! can't have that

>>12164094

That's like the worst example you could possibly provide lol. Only fps n64 games like Goldeneye are better on an xbox controller.

>>12164320

There are also middle grounds like mister fpga or og hardware with flashcarts, or software emulation to a CRT via emudriver. To me the worst thing about software emulation is the input lag. Like yeah, there's runahead to eliminate it but it isn't without drawbacks and many emulators don't have it. I like fast forward but it gets to be really habit forming. This applies to save states as well and they should nearly never be used unless you want to practice a section of a game.

Give me one good reason I shouldn't use save states as long as I only use them at times you would usually be able to save

>>12164478

Why do that? Just use ingame saves. Save states aren't real saves, they're volatile ram snapshots that easily get corrupted and often become incompatible with emulator updates and you often can't transfer them between emulators like normal SRAM saves.

>>12164487
Save states are more convenient than in-game saves, and I have never had one get corrupted across many games and emulators. I make duplicate saves anyway in case I override one. Emulator updates making them incompatible could certainly be annoying, I'll take that as one good reason

>>12164495

It does depend on the emulator probably. I've never had a Retroarch savestate become invalid but PCSX2 nightly has updates all the time that warn the user that the update will make them incompatible. I used to lose save states all the time on MGBA standalone too like 10 yrs ago. If I were you I would at least occasionally make a normal save, or maybe when you finish a game make a normal save to know it's good forever.

>>12164043
No need to rely on aging, seldom overpriced hardware?

No need to rely on aging, often overpriced hardware?

>>12164507
I'm glad we were able to discuss this amicably

>>12164413
I am not paying for the shitty Switch subscritption service, tendie.

>>12164413
I am not paying for the shitty Switch subscription service, tendie.

I changed my PC, got one suitable for the game, installed Windows 11, but I don't understand why it won't let me install the EPSXE emulator for PS1. I managed to install Duckstation, but I preferred EPSXE.
Are you having the same problem?
Any tricks to fix it?

I don't have any problems with the PS2 because I only use the original console, and if it breaks, I'll buy another one. I never want to be without my PS2!

For Sega, I use Kega Fusion on a Windows 7 PC, and I haven't had any problems so far.