If you follow Ralof into Helgen Keep during the beginning of Skyrimjob, he unknowingly completes an aurbic ritual through the unbinding of your hands (untying the Prisoner from fate) inside of a Tower--symbolic of the wheel/cylinder within which all of 'reality' occurs--where a chandelier casts the shadow of an eight-spoked wheel upon the floor of the same ritual chamber containing a deer head casting dragon-like wing shadows, between the bear emblem of the Stormcloaks and the Imperial sigil.

>>3755725 (OP)
nigger, what?

>>3756572
Watch your tone when you speak to me, Mer.

>>3755725 (OP)
Deepest lore. But what if you go with Hadvar?

>>3755725 (OP)
>this is what Bethesda writers spend their time on instead of writing coherent storylines and a believable world
I'm so fucking tired by how every normalfag dickrides Bethesda like their life depends on it when they're easily one of the worst AAA studios in the business. These subhumans literally pretend like the games being buggy pieces of shit is a good thing and got mad when Reblivion fixed a few of them.

>>3757130
why would you

>>3757557
NTA but if you go with Hadvar you can take all the blacksmithing materials from Alvor's house for free. I'm pretty sure you also get better prices from him because of that disposition boost.
Also if you go with Ralof you have to wait through all the dialogue before the door gets unlocked if you just want to run through the dungeon, while with Hadvar you can just grab the key from the chest and run through the dungeon as soon as he unties your hands if you don't feel like going through all that business.

From a purely mechanical perspective, Hadvar is generally the better choice. I would say Ralof is better only if you want a full set of steel-tier heavy armor early.

>>3757989
oh my bad i thoughts it's a lore thread, not metaknowledge minmax thread

>>3757994
You asked why people would side with Hadvar and I gave you an answer

>>3757557
because I have no respect for the controlled opposition Thalmor asset

>>3758340
>Thalmor asset

Imperialtards once again proving that they literally cannot read.

I never knew there was a choice here until years and years later lmao.

I would always just run to the end and go right

>>3759030
dang

>>3757989
However, Ralof is faster to give you the lockpicks in the lockpicking tutorial, and if you side with him you can get 2 Helgen keep keys!

>>3755725 (OP)
What about the carpet ? Jokes aside a very observant observation brother . Bethesda is a very esoteric and involved in the occult 100% company . Brother don't get lost or pulled into the occult . Jesus Christ is the way , the truth and the life . No one comes to the Father except through him . Remember that . All occult etc. powers are from the fallen ones not from God or "the universe" or some shit they are deceivers and want you to stray away from God so they can devour you when you're alone in the wilderness . Do your research through this lense brother and you will come to understand the truth . And never let yourself be deceived into thinking it is too late to turn back to God , to come back home . For it never is too late . No matter in what pit you find yourself in just cry out to Jesus or the Father if you have a hard time calling out to Jesus and cry out for help , for mercy and do not let despair consume you , always hope no matter how impossible it may seem , pray and God WILL save you no matter what circumstance you find yourself in . Apologies for my rant just wanted to make sure you're gonna be okay brother as well as anyone else reading this God bless all of you ! . Anyway i'm going back to /x/ hahahaha

>>3756572
he's right you know

>>3764288
>"the universe"
This isn't an inside job. We're talking about the universe being threatened from beyond, beyond God even. That's power scale

>>3755725 (OP)
That's a very creative observation OP, A+.

Do you think its possible they worked a vertical slice into this symbolic journey at the start of the game?

>>3755725 (OP)
first time I played I didn't realize you could choose who to enter the keep with, I just kept following the imperial guy since thats what I was doing so far, I would have sided with Ralof otherwise

bump

>>3771627
>necrobumping your own shitty thread

This should be a bannable offense

>>3757989
>My Stormcloak Nord has to side with Hadvar to get a 2-h weapon
>My Imperial has to side with Ralof to get a set of Imperial gear
Literally wtf Bethesda

>>3771820
Posting off-topic should still be a bannable offense. Take your garbage back to your favorite social media platform if you cannot contribute.

>>3774836
>you cannot contribute
The fact that no one cares about this garbage schizobabble off topic thread and you have to keep self bumping it from page 9 of this slow ass board is proof that you can't contribute, faggot.

>>3775272
You ever plan to make a post without newfag buzzwords?

>>3767480
>I didn't realize you could choose
Skyrim starts with a NPC filter

>>3775293
T_T

>>3775298
It's okay it teaches you later. Did you know in the civil war you can defect by delivering the high king's crown to the other side?

>>3755725 (OP)
bretty neat observation anon