Thread 3772885

Come post about the best crpg ever made!

what were they

>>3772885 (OP)
Far from the best, but it is really good and far from as hard as people whine about.
Final boss is embarrassing though

>>3773099
I think many builds would struggle with it on dom if they didnt do the mutagen puzzle. Personally, I pretend like I need to destroy the tanks before I can kill it, to give it that extra bit of challenge.

I decided to do an asshole stealth man and so far it's been fun, but... be real with me, am I gonna get shat on later with unavoidable open combat like in so many games, or will it continue to let me fuck with people and avoid trouble like this?

>>3773178
there are a few occasions where you cant start from stealth, so be prepared for that
but most of the time stealth will work for you

that said, there is a certain type of item you can get from a certain merchant that will fix that problem for you
except against enemies with true sight, of course, or if your stealth isnt high enough to not get auto-detected

I admit I got kind of turned off when after delaying playing it for ages I finally gave it a shot, only to realize it really didn't seem to want me to do the one thing I really wanted to, mind wizard with ALL the powers
That is, 'all the powers' was literally impossible with the limited slots, and even using all schools seemed actively worse than hyperfocusing on one
And I don't know, I'm a bitch and being hard limited like that just leaves a sour taste in my mouth

>>3773200
people still do quad-psi, they just dont have 4 schools innervated at once
most do two at once, and they pick the spells that will help most for that fight
You still can do four at once; theres a feat that lets you ignore the penalty from one school, which helps a bit
and you can have up to 12 slots, or 13 with a special item, if you have high int and use an expanded headband
psi is strong enough that you could do this and still have an easy time, it just wont be as optimal

>>3773333
>12 slots, or 13
*10 slots, or 11

>>3773333
Guess I'll take you on your word
What kind of stats would I want for maximum brainmage? And for that matter, what skills other than all the psi ones, which I refuse to not at least almost max?

>>3773338
https://underrail.info/build/?HgMDAwoDDAwAwocAAAAAwqA4AAAAEEgOOQXCoMKgwqDCoDwzAGIsK2NfKghQRB9XZcK9ZsKEIcK3esKd4qGHBOKitQLiq4YF4qyDAt--

If I were to do it, I'd go with something like this. I didn't spend much time on this, so some slightly different choices might be better but this is the gist of it. You can't afford much in other skills aside from the int and will ones, but those are the more important ones anyway, I think, stealth excluded.

>>3773338
https://underrail.info/build/?HgMDCgMDEAgAAAAAAMKgUgAAAAAUWQkyWsKgwqDCoMKgKSw3KyRhOT9Hwrdswp3CrldEKmTCvWYhwoYFLnLioZoF4qK1AuKnlwPiq5oD374

I have this build saved, but I dont remember if I made it or someone else did. It's the tranquility version of the same build, basically. You'd need to bump int up to 12 and lower will by 4, and adjust the skill points accordingly. Tranquility might be better for quad psi because psychosis also increases psi cost, but I think psychosis is superior in general.

>>3773200
just play the ancient pre-nerf version and you can :^)
I get why he wanted to limit it, but man the slots are a shit solution
just got to remember that the only thing that is objectively real is suffering, and that suffering is the best thing in life objectively.

>>3773365
is he a slav
I genuinely have no idea but he seems like every slav I knew

I was okay with so much of Styg's bullshit, but realizing he made Cyclops Eye a fucking random chance made me swear a blood oath against him

>>3773200
>mind wizard with ALL the powers
That was one of most fun you could have in a RPG, using all your highly situational powers in situational scenarios. Just play the legacy version, really.

>>3772885 (OP)
Isn't Styg a nazi? Ain't playing nazi games, nu-uh. I'd rather play Octopath Traveler.

>>3774030
I bet you would

>>3774030
He's a slav, hence a fascistoid, but not a Nazi since he's an untermensch himself. Just like the Japs.

>>3773366
yeah. they had to somehow adapt to the endless buttfucking over generations.

>>3773388
:) just endure an hour of refresh... or more!

>>3773003
very spooky

>>3773388
items you'd want to make a build around, being random, was a bad call imo, I agree
I think some items being random is fine, but the cyclops is a bad example. If anything, just put it in one of several random locations per playthrough.

You think styg will add more blob pistol types?

I was not expecting this

>>3774030
Nein, mein baiten cuckling. He's not even nationalistic by serb standards. Just a mildly autistic codexfag.

>>3774524
>mildly autistic
hes a full blown autist

>>3772885 (OP)
I have never finished Underrail. The furthest I can get is a few missions into the deep caverns before I run out of steam and lose interest.

>>3774483
A bio blob gun would be pretty disgusting.

>>3774560
>DC
I mean that's the end of the game and dc is also polarizing, so it's understandable. Did you try the dlcs? I love them but I think a lot of ppl get bored by all of the traveling and the locusts in expedition.
Also what was your build? I'm always curious. I assume most ppl first time around did some sort of build with assault rifles.
>>3774562
Oh totally. Fuck, I want that now. Also wonder if blob guns will get special attachments.

>>3774558
By Grimoire: Heralds of the Winged Exemplar standards he's a well adjusted individual.

>>3773140
Doubt anyone actually did the mutagen puzzle without a guide

>>3774578
The mutagen puzzle isn't bad desu. The sonocaster one gives me ptsd just because I fucking hate reading music, I've never even used the weapon.

>>3774524
>Just a mildly autistic codexfag
What's the deal with rpg codex anyway? Why's everyone a migatard there?

>>3774587
Traditions established by years of cirklejerking if I had to take a guess.
>ib4 Why's everyone a faggot here?

What happens if you take out the SRO all on your own before you even get the mission from the free drones?

>>3774595
Nothing. I did that and there's not a lot that changes from just doing the mission.
>Went to sweep SRO after finding the snitch.
>I did it so no other named Drones died in the fight.
>I holed myself in the office, killing cans as they came in a conga line.
>Then went down and killed all the Protectorate units within the Junkyard outpost and the prison.
When I took the quest I was fuming at the fact that they stopped at the elevator entrance and I'd killed the people below over nothing – even more at the ending slides where it said that after the Drones' attack the Protectorate units were sent back home with the help of the Black Eels.
I killed everyone there, I crippled The Rig, the pirates took control of the sea and it didn't matter.
I set Fort Apogee ablaze, I murdered the cans at the Core City docks but the game still said the Protectorate retreated, regrouped and annexed South Underrail eventually.
Nothing matters. Next time I'll sneak into Vera's office and put ten HE traps around her to kill her and it won't matter.

>>3774615
Ah shit, thanks.

Styg should just give me a toxic waste flamethrower-type weapon. Just let me hose down enemies with two big ass fuel tanks on my back that instantly kill me if I get shot in the back.

>>3774578
I did. The lemurian music puzzle is the one I can't figure out.

me and who

God I love status effects.

Is underrail worth beating? I had two characters i tried to beat game with, sniper and stealth gunner, but each time i dropped the game somewhere near scrapyard (or however that area was called), not because it was hard (i played on dominating with oddities both times) but because it gets really boring. Big fights are interesting, but everything else seems shitty and boring (especially quests and lore). So is it worth giving underrail another shot?

>>3774769
Ain't your dad, nigger. Play the game if it's fun don't play if it's not.

>>3774661
The closest you can get is making a 12.7mm minigun and crafting contaminated bullets so you can brap a small room full of serpentkin or something.

Kitty cat time.
>>3774769
Junkyard is like the exnteded tutorial area lol. You might like the lore later on since it gets more interesting.
>>3774775
That sounds like a funny idea.

>>3774699
surgeon

>>3774769
this is just about the only crpg since bg2 that doesnt have shitty quests or lore
theres been a couple decent ones but underrail takes the cake

>>3774769
If you don't like it then you don't like it. Why force yourself. You're not getting paid to play it. No-one is holding a gun to your head.

>>3772885 (OP)
How's the choice and consequences? Narratively, don't give me retarded shit like "you can choose to do this quest or skip it!". Like if I play another playthrough, will there be a difference other than builds?

>>3774857
not that much
theres mutually exclusive questlines
some actions have consequences later on in the game
theres a ton of ending slides, for each faction/town

>>3774857
some quests/encounters are seeded at the start of a run and mutually exclusive with others
there are a few faction choices you can/have to make
but generally the narrative is just "I kill things because I like money and exp"
the encounter design and how each build interacts with what you are doing is fantastic though

ok hammers are pretty fun

Infusion hammers probably won't have the same weight and impact that they do in this game which is a shame.

>>3774857
Just remember to avoid killing Faceless as much as possible and you'll be fine. Also, kill ever Tchortist on sight, be it in the open or from the shadows, and take the optional route to the University instead of doing their dirty work.

>>3775032
Booo Tchortist quests are fun

>>3775150
It's funnier to clean the institute so the Faceless find it empty. Too bad Eidein "mysteriously dissapears" in the ending, even if you shatter him.
You get SO many Adv. health hypos it's insane.

>IRL useful idiot proud of killing the video game useful idiots
You can't make this shit up.

Finally, I gave styg his money for the game. Any knife/throwing knife build around? It's also been a while since I touch the game and I know it's gotten quite a few updates since then.

>>3775290
https://underrail.info/build/?HgMQCgMDBQYAAMKgAMKgwqDCoMKgADUyAGFgITJlAAAAAAAAADkmJE4SE0EGSzxHXELChcKzUTHDiMKcwp7Cn8KgGm3inY0F4qKMA-KnvgTiqLsD37w

I wanna do a second run and i want to do some wizzard shit. Never done this so any advice? Do i play normally in the early game and then transition to full psi?

>>3775311
just throw icicles at people

>>3775311
just kill everything with psi abilities
you can carry a knife very early on to kill rathounds if you want, and throw grenades too

>>3775329
Took a quick look at the different abilities and i went with thought control and temporal manipulation instead. But if im already nuking everybody then metathermics must be even stronger right?

>>3775408
This stuff is surprisingly strong. Killed most things with neural overload and nuked the guy with a bow using a grenade. Got some more against robots. Going for a sorta glass canon build.

>>3775299
Thank you anon. I trust you and now am going to start a dominating run with that.

>>3775415
I just started a tm, tc run myself lol.
>mt
cyro orb is disgoosting

>>3775434
I have psy so powerful it softlocks the game

>>3775437
did not attach

>>3775439
lol wtf

Is there a way to up the difficulty of a save? I want to go up a notch but replaying the beginning is boring.

>>3773140
I couldn't even finish the game on normal lol. The last boss was unwinnable for me because my build was too ''jack of all trades master of none''

>>3775461
What did you try on the boss? I played on normal, waltzed in without doing the puzzle and nuked in two turns with an LMG.

>>3775472
My build was really ''crowd control'' oriented, It was like a crossbow + psyonic + traps build, and even the initial distribution of skill points was ''balanced'' so my crossbow damage kinda sucked, same for my psyonic damage, and traps and crowd control abilities are pretty useless against the final boss so yeah no way to implode it quickly for me

>>3775424
Knife is super easy, it'll feel like hard.

>>3775490
xbow just stacks up corrosive acid then lays down the shock bolts

>didn't take escape artist
fuck cornell fuck cornell fuck cornell

>>3775611
you have two options
1. sea wyrm armor + tabs
2. mutie stew + morphine + aegis

>>3775616
yeah i'm going to switch armors

Is there another fast way to get a jet sky besides the one at camp harthor? I feel like you are missing out on some content if you don't have one.

>>3775652
its by far the easiest way to get a jet
are you having trouble with the ratking?

>>3775656
>are you having trouble with the ratking?
No im not even at that part yet. Just having one sorta hidden way to get one kinda sounds retarded which is why i thought there are some other ones.

>>3775652
why do you feel like you're missing out on content?

>>3775662
There is just the rig and there are these calming waterways with traffic and some missions associated with them. Its a shame not to do them but when you get a jet sky 'late' there is no reason to visit these places unless you have some time to spare.
Buying one or getting one for for free after the gang war would be a lot nicer.

>>3775666
desu I always do all the waterway stuff once it's really late game just for the sake of exploring, random encounters and killing everything

>>3775661
shiiiiiiet
its waaaay easier and open compared to what you otherwise have to do
the game is basically handing you one on a platter

>>3775671
yeah i know. This play through is just really fresh so i have none at the moment. Just felt like there would be other ways however.

>>3775672
on my current run I found out that you can pp your money back after you buy it, if you position yourself so that he cant walk past

>>3772885 (OP)
Underrail is a mediocre game, not even the best rpg from its release year, get some taste.

>>3775707
Not an argument.
>not even the best rpg from its release year
Name it

>>3775652
Loot other jetskis if you are bent on exploring the waterways right away:
>Wait for a battle to break, usually some people raiding a bigger ship.
>Kill some of them and loot their rides.
>Or wait for the battle to be over and pick up what you need.
You may find a better engine and battery or you can get on a new jetski altogether. It won't be much because the best jets are bought in Core City and they will be useless by the time you can afford them – they are more vanity buys than anything.
You can also get a hotwiring kit and go to The Rig (North from Camp Hathor, then left, then south until you see a structure. Land on the west side where the bar is) or the Hopperdrome (random) to steal one.
I usually wait until the Expedition questline so I have some levels and I don't get wasted at sea.

>>3776147
I asked about if there are other pre-expedition ways to get a jetski. Because again, i think you should get one a little bit earlier.


Also do the Drones get as good as the Protectorate? I decided on the Drones for this play through but they are kinda boring. Im at the blow up elevator thing so maybe it gets better but the protectorate just have a much cooler vibe but don't fit with my build. But even then Oculus made the Drones obsolete so i don't know if i should even bother with them.

>>3772885 (OP)
sell this game to me

>>3776218
Hyper realism

>>3776193
You can do those things with the dingy, slow jetski you can buy at Camp Hathor. I don't think you can get another one pre-Expedition unless you steal one from Core City or Junkyard and aggro half the screen.
The Protectorate and Free Drones are there for extra quests and lore but you can skip them. Overall, Drones' missions are a bit harder and you can get more items out of playing for Protectorate but not much else. The best items are usually the ones you craft, anyways.
Honestly, I love taking the Free Drones' side because I like raiding Epione Lab and the Stalkers' hideout; you can do both on your own but I like the extra motivation.
>>3776218
Be a cave wizard. Set a chump on fire while his shadow (x2) slap him to death.

>>3776147
>and they will be useless by the time you can afford them
???

I can afford them as soon as they are available to buy, except for the few most expensive ones. The torpedo makes a HUGE difference for melee characters, and the leviator is both tankier and more stable than the aegis jet for ranged characters. Definitely not a vanity buy.

>>3776193
Can you even use a jet ski to move around in the non DLC maps of the game? It wasn't designed with it in mind so I doubt it. I only remember getting to Core City docks, but can you actually use the jet ski to get around in the main game?

>>3776218
You'll love it if you're a zazed sam hyde fan.

Is doing the dude quests good for a PSI character? I want to get into expedition but i always tp around which kinda makes the game boring. So i want to avoid him for now. Is this a bad idea? I don't think you get any perks from him.

>>3776423
Yeah. The Waterways are a series of maps that interconnect the different ports in South Underrail, plus adding other places of interest.
>>3776484
Riftwalking is incredibly helpful to move around, especially when you're hauling stuff to sell to different vendors on higher difficulties.
The first quest requires a bit of lockpicking, hacking and perception for traps but the other one takes you around as you follow the dude, gathering ingredients. The worst part is going through a compound where people speak i a foreign language; you can sneak around or kill everyone. There's plenty of items in lockers and on the soldiers, so do the latter if you're confident in your crowd control and killing humans quickly.
>>3776432
>yfw Styg probably dumped tons of money from the game's sales into Sam's little house of fetishes.
Now I'm glad I pirated Expedition, desu.

>>3776530
I know what riftwalking is and i did those quests on on PSI characters but im wondering if a PSI one could have some other experience since its PSI and all. I already have everything i need to do it but the novelty wears off after doing it a couple of times.

>>3776532
There isn't a lot else to do with Dude in that regard besides buying more Juice from him. You can have some extra insights with a high Int character during his second quest and talk to him about his real name after going back up from the Deep Caverns, but that's it. Juice-induced Second Sight can help you in some plot-related events and the +1 Per is nice, so don't knock out getting drunk on it as underwhelming.

>>3776543
Decided to do his quest before the dlc. I never actually tried properly infiltrating them so i was worried about not getting a nice uniform. Turns out that its easier to get it that way however so i did.

Also about the expedition, is climbing gear something you find naturally in a casual play-through? I don't remember finding any in my last one and i'd rather have a little pointer in the direction than not find it and not do the thing.

>>3776484
>Is doing the dude quests good for a PSI character?
Yes, especially if you're a male and have high persuasion (which you should, for no other reason than the fact Will is your main stat).

>>3776802
>spoiler
You mean the oddity?
It's on your way to the black and blue statue at the top of the entrance of the Black Sea. You either do the Agi check to climb there or go around through the Pirate Bay. You eventually have to deal with the pirates by joining them, making a truce or killing them to explore areas of interest.

>>3775586
Surprisingly easy in the relatively early part of the game. I've only had problems with tin cans for now.
Also, where does one farm crawlers or buy their poison? I don't like relying on luck to get the crawler tipped throwing knife.

>>3776925
>You either do the Agi check to climb there or go around through the Pirate Bay.
That or there is some equipment apparently. It says so when you try to climb without being able too. Also its not just an oddity i think. If you have enough PSI the should be a interaction like with all monoliths

Its not very subtle with the suggestion and i don't think that this is flavor text as there have been similar moments than before. I already did a raid on the pirates to i could try that way but im still interested.

>>3777056
You can find the gear in the Citadel of Life. But you'll need to have opened the way to Viridescent Quarry via Fetid Marsh, and have the relevant storylines done in Expedition and Oculus. I think that's all, been a long while since I last bothered with it.

>>3777068
And the relevant quest in the east is the submarine stuff i assume? Don't remember there being anything else in that area.

>>3777038
lots of cave maps have plenty of crawlers
theres the black crawler lair
theres that underpassages map with a bunch of them
you can buy them at the institute

>>3776218
Do you like the taste of shit?
Do you enjoy bad game design?
Do you like garbage writing?
Do you like ugly looking art style?
Do you like jank unfinished buggy games?

Then UnderRail is for you!

>>3777162
it's not buggy at all
obviously the rest of that is subjective even if it's wrong

Im at the part in expedition where you need to make and use the gas grenade for the terminal but i can't form a recipe and skill standpoint. Do i just level up and spend skill points on things i don't need or is there another way?

>>3777198
there are some already crafted ones in one of the vaults
also that area is optional if you hate hives

>>3777210
How is that area optional? Isin't that were you are sent to by Oilfield? Also the grenades, are they in the armory type place or where the crabs are? I have the pesticide and i looked through the crab place but i still have this issue.
Hives are not too bad but if i can skip it i would.

>>3777214
you get sent to a lot of places and there are a few others that you have to find yourself
however the places with locusts don't contribute in any way to the goals of the expedition

probably where the crabs are I can't remember

>>3777216
So i just kinda explore on my own and report places to oilfield? I already found the medical center and i am exploring lemco right now.
I remember doing that hive place and getting sent to places afterwards. Probably some coordinates there.

>>3777219
it's basically
mutie island for arm>institute of technology for clearance>medical center for implant>security headquarters (which is north of horticulture)>submarine bay>station zero

bonus points for finding the artifact the ferryman threw at some guy

>>3777222
Thanks.
used the super solider drug to skip everything leading up to the nexus of technology too.
Dunno who thought that the agriculture thing would be a fun area to play.

>>3772885 (OP)
Did you guys not already see the existing thread? >>3770484

Guess people aren't used to seeing the thread with fan art as the OP instead of a screenshot.

>>3777259
I like the hort center.
The nades are in the lower level, to the west, in the part with spiders and red grass.

>>3777259
>Dunno who thought that the agriculture thing would be a fun area to play.
Its better than the marsh.

>>3777271
This is the harperfan & discord general.

>>3777421
yes, whiny soibois get out

>>3777271
what is it supposed to be fan art of?

>>3777734
Carnifex beating up a fighting game character, I think from one of those anime fighting games.

Turns out if you debuff yourself enough then you actually can fail this strength check. I didn't think that was possible but it is.

>>3777748
why would they bother with that
who is ever going to have less than 3 str when they talk to this guy

>>3777222
i did the nexus but i have no followup quests. Is the hive area optional as in if you solo the expedition or optional in a way that oilfield and the rest recognize?

>>3777817
If you do both then you have to leave the camp for a bit and then Oldfield will call you to come back and give you the followup missions. Not sure if it'll work if you only do one.

>>3777821
So its not optional? I mean i already have all coordinates needed after doing some exploring but looks like i still need to go there for second time.

Its just that my character is very single enemy focused and has little hp which is fine everywhere else but i cannot fight 20 bugs at once that shoot at you from 20km away.

>>3777825
There's nothing critical there so if you really wanted you could just to to the health center on your own. The only thing you get from horticulture center is the location of health center and security HQ. Every other area has a vital item of some sort but horticulture doesn't.

>>3777825
you do not need to do the hort center
all it gives you is coords for where to look; you can find those places yourself

>>3777826
>>3777830
and if i go to the health center on my own the questline wont break or anything? Its just weird because i have already discovered them but there is no option to say "hey, i found this building in this and that".
I'll try either way because of how cancer hort center is.

>>3777825
You could probably stack stealth items and avoid them. Even if you have no base stealth, black balaclava+black soft padding leather+black tabis+cloaking device gets you a lot of effective.

>>3777833
nope, you'll be fine

>>3777834
Does nothing if you are on jetski or if you keep bumping into each other. I have little problems fighting them inside but i cant even get there without reloading 10 times.

>>3777837
Thanks for the info. I'd probably torture myself with the bugs otherwise.

>>3777841
they shouldnt be out for you to bump into them

>>3777841
What's your agility? If you have at least 5 base then you can go from G7 to H7. G7 is completely safe, H7 does have enemies but if you enter from the right spot you can start right next to the stairs and then get off your jet and hit stealth immediately. You need 8 agility to get past the check, but you can easily get +3 from hopper chest+feet+steak so if you have base 5 you're good. If you have base 3 agility then you can use white dude or all in instead of steak. Much more expensive but it will work.
Sometimes there's a bitch serpent hanging around the door which sees you whenever you use the button, but if you wait long enough then it'll move away.

How many of you actually play on dominating? For me I've comfortably enjoyed hard with my somewhat minmaxed builds. Not sure if I'd enjoy the hp bloat dominating seems to add but I want to give it a try.
Was thinking of cooking up a pistol only build. Maybe chem/electric pistols as well.

>>3777868
once you go dom you dont go back
hard feels pathetically easy

>>3777868
I've only done one playthrough because of the shit economy.

>>3777868
Bosses having enough hp that they avoid dying before they get a single turn is a good thing.

>>3777868
hp bloat is fine
the evasion bloat is not
that and saving newton is the hardest thing you will do in dominating

>>3777890
>the evasion bloat is not
The evasion bloat is great unless it's one of those rare cases where there isn't a clear answer to it within your build.

>>3777933
makes slow weapons in the early game more painful
makes fighting multiple death stalkers in the midgame more of a chore

>>3777943
It forces you to use simple tactics to negate or heavily reduce evasion. It's a more nuanced HP bloat.

>>3777944
>simple tactics
you mean shitting bear traps everywhere

>>3777949
Or forcing Ambush to proc, or using flashbangs/nets, or cave magic, or tazers, or close combat with pistols.
I wasn't even thinking of bear traps initially, but sure.

>>3777943
Trying to kill Magnar with a sledgehammer is painful

>>3777868
the game offers little to nothing besides fighting, and there's very little of it outside dominating. almost dropped it before trying dom due boredom.

>>3777955
Flashbang>pummel or TK grounding if you're psychokinesis+hammers both work.

>>3777955
yeah, if you can manage to incap him in any way, he's ripe for a net or pummel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Opl0_hwgYKs

I flashbang + decap critted him with the red dragon once

I don't know why you people are scaring anon off the Horticulture Center. Thrre's nothing much there besides supplies, pest nades and crafting materials but it isn't that bad. Pyrokinesis, Cryokinetic Orb and incendiary grenades carried me through just fine.
>>3777868
I'm gonna start one on dominating this week because of this thread and the fact I played on Normal and Hard the times I did it.
I will probably try a build opposite of what I usually play, so maybe I'll go for high Sneak, high Dexterity stabby asshole that breaks into every house or something.

>>3778046
I said I like the hort center, but it isnt necessary to go there

>>3777849
I use this shortcut all the time, and if I have enough agility I also boost for the shortcut to the nexus center, personally I find the nexus path with all the crabs and spiders a lot more annoying to trek through than the bugs at the marsh.

>>3778144
the marsh path is also much much easier to stealth through
unless you have a pesticide grenade

>>3777868
It feels too tryhard and unfair to me honestly, I wish hard mode could have the dom exclusive bosses and have more powerful enemies like the big burrowers around but without the inflated HP.

>>3778151
That'd be cool
I like the stronger bosses and extra enemies but the extra hp on regular enemies and the worse economy is just tedium rather than difficulty

I hope Infusion handles merchants like Oblivion where they have a set amount of money to offer when trading but they have an 'infinite' amount of it so you don't have to wait an hour or use a literal cheat engine to get the merchants to refresh their money.

>>3778178
I hope styg dies before finishing infusion and he's forced to play retarded minigames in hell

What's the optimal choice for a war crime enjoyer?
I just want people to suffer before they die.

>>3778193
Utilizing bear traps, gas grenades, poison, ect. You know, playing as an average crossbow build.

>>3778193
chempistols

>>3778178
He'll double down in limited items and money while adding a time limit to the game.

>>3778151
Styg should make a customizable difficulty setting, maybe even going an extra mile and adding challenges like Deadfire.

>>3778278
>customizable difficulty

No.Fixed difficuilty only.
More filtering to the (now dead) God of filtering.

>>3778280
That would be great too, if anything because of the filtered tryhards who will cry about the game being too easy to break.

It sure seems like infusion is going to be harder than underrail.

What's the mystery behind drinking Absence? My character started getting paranoid and seeing shadows but that's it.
It's weird that Dude has that on him and not a White Dude if you kill him.

>>3778408
it's alcohol that was memed as a hallucinogenic 100 years ago because you had to drink it in a weird way

>load up underrail build planner website
>go to load my saved builds
>half of them missing
>one of them called GDPR_REMOVAL_FLAG
aw nuts what the hell is this

The screen transition penalty better not be a permanent thing in Infusion with time being a mechanic.

Do I keep pretending like heavy duty doesn't exist or give it a try
don't like heavy guns being a separate thing and the new area seems shit

>>3778778
You can just sneak through the place which is also how you do the secret quest by getting to the boss while not killing his minions.

I can't wait to gearqueen in infusion. All-green AR with forward grip, suppressor, green anatomical scope, reflex sights, laser sight.

Dunno if I'll go with tacticool armor or siphoner/hopper. We'll see.

>>3778999
>he thinks fun will be possible in infusion
lol
better archive the first release of the game before styg patches everything again

>>3779009
Ill be an alpha tester for sure, but I think infusion will be more fun than underrail. I'm not a filtered soiboy zoomer faggot like all the underrail unenjoyers. He's implementing a ton of my suggestions.

>>3778999
>wait 10 in-game weeks for the parts to arrive at the local merchant
>pay mechanic to have all the parts installed
>drop expensive rifle on its sight because you got scared by a rat
>nothing works anymore
>money stolen
Such is life in the underrail.
Check'd btw

>>3779018
>pay mechanic
didnt you watch the video where you can swap parts at will?

>>3779021
The video of the alpha build of the game?
Parts will likely have a (crafting) skill requirement, just like they do now. Don't have enough skill? Pay gunsmith to do it for you.

>>3778237
>an average crossbow build
is critting everyone with shock bolts, or sometimes with fire bolts too. pointless to fiddle with accessories

>>3779025
>playing a tacticool gun nut
>not having enough mechanics
anon

>>3778284
now THAT would be funny. but stug loves his discord audience way too much.

>>3779012
>He's implementing a ton of my suggestions
Oh never mind you're part of the problem
Underrail just got worse as it went on because he kept listening to the cabal or discord retards wanting everything nerfed
not that I have any hope even for the most alpha version of infusion with the retarded new combat system and the ground breaking oblivion lockpicking

>>3778778
it's absolutely pointless.

>>3779042
>gear queer
>good with mechanics
KEK

>>3779046
>Underrail just got worse as it went on
No it didn't.
It's more fun now than it ever was.
>the retarded new combat system
Good that you got filtered out already.

>>3777868
I played it once with pistols. Once you get the ball rolling it's dumb easy. But I play normal most of the time because underrail is my turn off brain relax game.

>>3779046
hey, we got some stuff buffed

>>3779046
What even was nerfed?
>the whole psi system being reworked
>smart goggles burst
>move and shoot for some crossbows and guns

I actually think the game has gotten worse as it's gone on because character building has gotten too easy. There are way too many items that increase effective skills and level 30 gives you way too many skill points. At release you had junkyard surprise and jackknife and that was it. Now there's pie/Jon's special and engineer suit and boning knife and Phreak's glove and medic exoskeleton and hypno goggles and tattoos and JKK jacket and Institute belts and probably more shit I forgot about. And an extra 200 skill points from the level cap going up. Junkyard surprise did lose +int but hypercerebrix replaces it so that's not a loss either. You don't ever have to make hard decisions anymore, you can max everything you care about and still have loads of points left over.
Complaining about nerfs is fucking weak. Complain about buffs instead.

>>3779292
>level 30 gives you way too many skill points.
Kind of the reason why I never fully leveled up to that point. The few runs I've had, I never went past like level 25 because most of the game had already turned into a breeze.

the amount of backtracking that you'll be doing, is what killed any sort of replayability for me
especially if you bought the core city apartments

>persuasion checks to make charms stronger get harder with game progress
styg why the fuck
as if people didn't hate coral enough already
why do i need persuasion to make my own character believe in the first place? fucking self hypnosis?

>>3779424
Tedium is good game design. You're trading irl time for whatever you're doing.

>>3779452
I didn't even know that was a thing

This would be extremely cool if I wasn't doing a low level run that can't get metathermics high enough to learn plasma beam.
I guess it's still pretty cool just to see it.

>>3779661
I just got the stilts for the first time ever, from donnie
about 15 minutes ago
I like to collect uniques and other special items, even if I dont use them

>>3779661
>limits to only 1 psi slot
That doesn't seem very useful, especially if you're a pure psi and don't have guns or something to fall back on.

>>3779755
Once you get a plasma beam build online with the cyclops eye, it's annihilates everything in the game but nagas. It's actually pretty fun and I would recommend it if that stupid piece of shit cyclops eye wasn't a fucking rare merchant drop. You don't need a gun or any back up weapon. Beam everything and have a good energy shield and tac vest.

>>3779760
I already did a pure psi wizard build awhile ago and my headband with a plasma beam filter was good enough to kill anything that wasn't a naga. Cryo orb was also really useful since not every enemy group is going to be perfectly lined up to beam in one hit.

I just got the game+expedition on gog, I know almost nothing about it so I have a quick question
I want to do throwing+melee, is this viable, or should I focus only on one combat skill?

>>3780395
Yes that works

>>3780395
>I want to do throwing+melee, is this viable, or should I focus only on one combat skill?
Throwing always works well, if you only want to chuckle grenades you don't need a very high skill (targeting terrain is easy) but if you want to throw knives (targeting enemies directly) you'll have to max it out.
You can easily max out an other combat skill alongside it, like melee. Go high on DEX as it will scale both skills.

Anyway to undo aggroing a faction? I kinda fucked up when I stole the protectorate jet ski and it's been a while before I realized it when one of the outpost turned red.

>>3780537
no
of all the factions to make hostile the protectorate matters less than even junkyard

>>3780576
>>3780537
You guys are alright, don't come to Fort Apogee tomorrow.

After like 900 hours I'm finally burnt out on underrail
just feels like I'm playing checklist simulator of things to do in the correct order and I get bored of using whatever build I'm on by core city
hate running around to sell to a bunch of different merchants with my different loot stashes to have enough coins for both super steel and the jetski i want
don't think there's anything left for me in this game

>>3781825
I've been there before. That's why veterans do meme runs. I remember in 2020 saying "I think I've got one more run in me", yet here I am like 10 runs later still doing another one. Underrail is like 4chan; you're here forever.

On my current run, I'm doing more merchant runs than ever before; I have way more money than I'll use. Torpedo + good parts, many D&D drinks, like 7 super steels, fully fleshed out house, and I'm going on 33k past that, with 0 merc, before starting the institute or heavy duty. I'm collecting foods/drinks, unique or special weapons and armors, luxury items, and a few other things. I'm doing all the hard fights, sometimes going out of my way to make them even harder.

>26 july 2025
Tick tock, troondle.

>unarmed psi monk build does piss poor damage to the final boss
God damn it, I don't want to do the puzzle or having to stealth around blowing up the healing tanks. Besides nagas this build was murdering everything in sight until now.

>>3782244
do you have expose weakness? corrosive acid vials? a blast cap and a crowbar? taste for blood?

>>3782244
Same. I thought I'd have to restart the run. I had even done the extremely easy mutagen puzzle and the psi tentacle was creaming me.
What I did was genocide the worms down south to craft 30 regen mixtures because they don't have the health hypos' penalty. I had a good metal armor and soaked up damage while I slowly Plasma Beam'd every tank and kept the creatures away with Exothermic Aura, so the tentacles wouldn't regenerate so quickly. At the end I hammered Tchort to death. It wasn't a good build.

>>3781825
Take a break. I felt that way a couple of times. At 1500 hrs now and I just stopped at lvl 24 on my psi-less hammer guy. Time to read books and take a break from vidya for a while.

Why is underrail infusion called that? because of the faceless infusion buffs? I’m very curious about where and when it’s going to take place.

>>3781825
Yeah, that's about it. There's just no more novelty left. Meme builds can only keep the interest up so far, there's still nothing new to see or to do after depot or so.
>>3782421
>because of the faceless infusion buffs?
Nah.

>>3782421
We don't know. He has confirmed it has nothing to do with the faceless.

>>3782244
>>unarmed psi monk build does piss poor damage to the final boss
Really? I can't imagine
post build

>>3782784
https://underrail.info/build/?Hg0JBgMDBwUAADIAwqAoZEZuUAAAZG4AKHgAwqAAACgAZCsmMSRpORQgThbCqAZDwqnCtn1swp7Cm8Ktwq7DlgfCg-KdjQXipq4F4ragBd-8

My punches barely did any damage and I'm not able to kill it fast enough to out DPS the healing and survive the tentacle onslaught.

>>3782246
>>3783056
only niggers ignore

Does anyone kill the faceless? Asides from accidentally doing so on the first playthrough

>>3783092
Once I won a playthrough with zero Faceless kills, I've started killing them again. Butchering the fucksfor experience right and up from the central train location is just way too convenient to do before entering Expedition DLC.

>>3783092
I strongly prefer not to, and I rarely do
ive played a evil retard build before and been genocidal towards them; its underwhelming

>>3783092
Nah, they're usually too tough when you normally encounter them in the mid-game after Depot A so its easier to just have them fuck off from Rail Crossing after doing the Foundry Faceless quest or having enough persuasion so they don't kill Buzzer either. At least the institute invasion doesn't affect your standing with them if you defend yourself, in one of my builds one of the faceless got inside the elevator so I had to kill him before I could go down myself but the commander didn't care.

>>3783693
actually that doesnt matter
happened to me one time and I just activated the elevator anyway and he disappeared

>>3783056
yes you need a build that does an enormous amount of damage to kill tchort straight up
>recklessness+cheap shots
>no critical power
>no taste for blood with nail grenades
>not enough chemistry for corrosive acid and no expose weakness
yeah it's not going to be easy

>>3783762
>no taste for blood with nail grenades
and ripper glove

>>3783762
I'm only playing on hard and like I said in my post that the build was good enough for everything else in the game. I didn't really think a big fleshy eye would be so resistant when my character can destroy a metal robot by punching it.

>>3783706
>tfw I avoided fighting them by laying 20 bear traps on my last playthrough.
I thought I would lose favor with them so I disassembled a bunch of sledgehammers from dead tchortists, crafted the traps with the steel plates to bottleneck them around the boxes near the elevator and just waited. None of them died and they didn't even got into combat with my character. It's so dumb but it was nice I didn't have to shoot them.
But I did get their oddities because near the warehouses in DC there are some ancient rathounds that I started killing for blood and some cloaked Faceless got near amd stayed there by the time I was over. After activating the power plant and crafting a bit, the rathounds respawned and killed them before I could join and help.

>>3778046
>I don't know why you people are scaring anon off the Horticulture Center.
I have a temporal/psycho build and little AOE. Add having little hp in the equation and once those fuckers spawn its over. I can manage fighting multiple strongmen at once but having over 4 crickets on my screen means its over.

>>3783985
>implosion+punch a hive
>throw grenade
>locusts gone

>>3783990
Not psycho. Thought control. My mistake.

can someone tell these shadows to fuck off already

>>3784151
just say NO

>>3784156
i did but they didn't listen
i don't want to imagine what the audience is thinking watching me run in circles with these fucking things chasing me

>>3784159
The audience can't see them.

>>3784151
What I fucking hate the most is how when you get biolocated that the doppelgangers immediately attack you before its your turn, but when its you doing the biolocation on an enemy they get to have their turn first before the doppelgangers so they always get to run away first and make a lot of distance between them unless you get them trapped first.

will i be fucked if i main throwing knives in my first playthrough

>>3784492
everything can work
robots will kick your ass though don't forget to get the grenade feats too

AAAHAAHAHAHAH GAS EM ALLL GAAS EMM ALLLLL

Vera is obviously a Protectorate spy right? Not even Oculus knows why she left them in the first place and she's just hands over all of SGS to them if you leave to join Six at Hexagon in the north at the end.

>>3784302
I hate that you're basically fucked unless you have neural overload to banish them or have 14 CON to tank their slaps.
>>3784581
I wouldn't call her a spy considering she is stationed in a backwater settlement that doesn't offer a lot to the region (no meat, no scrap, no weapons, etc) and she openly states her intentions of letting South Underrail welcome Protectorate help as their best way to survive. Tanner maintains neutrality but he fucks off at the end, Gorsky hates Protectorate but his head is back in Core City and SGS is left on its own, with Vera in it.
She is either a low ranking Protectorate agent that hasn't made a lot of noise to be noticed by Oculus or a northerner that hasn't experienced the bad side of Hexagon and honestly believes they are the solution to most problems.
I think there is no other ending for SGS, which in my opinion is sad. I also hate that Rail Crossing is fucked unless you side with the cans and give them the train.

>>3784581
I don't think she's a spy, at least not in the sense of being an actual operative, it would be too obvious but it's also unnecessary. She's clearly a true believer in the Protectorate/US so I think it's more likely she was sent (or allowed to go) to SGS because as someone who genuinely believes in the Protectorate she's naturally going to act in way that promotes their interest.

>>3784614
or just high dodge or uncanny dodge

>>3784614
>I also hate that Rail Crossing is fucked unless you side with the cans and give them the train.
Personally I like that a lot. Do you want to join the foreign freedom fighters? It's going to cost the blood of your local allies.
Do you want to secure safety by joining the foreign military force? It's going to cost everyone but you their freedom.
Don't do anything? Fencesitters get fucked. Enjoy.

>>3784704
the folk of rail crossing dont get wiped out; some of them die to ironheads but the survivors fend them off and then bail
they split up and head to different communities, but most of them head north with whatshisface, their mayor

thats a pretty minor price to pay for the souths freedom

>>3784709
>betraying the trust of one of your only allies in the south is a minor price to pay
See? Perfect characterization for the type of people who would join the drones. Masterful work.

>>3784712
>>betraying the trust of one of your only allies in the south
That's what they did first when they asked the protectocucks for help.
>pick the cuck side
>get fucked
Serves them well.

>>3784718
>asking for help is cucked
>instead you should just all die to bandits, because lmao
>muh freedoms
Truly the approach that will lead the south to greatness.

>>3784724
>ask SGS for help
>get a lone autistic retard that will solve all your problems
>ask the foreiner power for help
>lick their boots
>get cucked
You retards never learn, not in viday nor IRL.

>>3784726
>Free Drone
>illiterate
Tale as old as time. Enjoy your buzzwords, though.

>>3784712
they didnt betray our trust by siding with hostile foreigners?
you sound like a cuck alright

>>3784718
wow, its like I posted twice

>>3784740
>they didnt betray our trust by siding with hostile foreigners?
They didn't side with the Free Drones, though.

>>3784740
>it's okay to lie and betray because they did it first
What level of jewish mental gymnastics is this?

Tchortists are pretty fucking cool desu. At least their tech and genetic modifications are.

>>3784750
>despite all the lies and betrayal I'm still loyal to israel
Do Protectorate enjoyers really...

epic

>>3784614
>I also hate that Rail Crossing is fucked unless you side with the cans and give them the train.
Why didn't they join with SGS? That should've been how it ends for them if you told the Captain you were sent by SGS to help and you stayed in South Underrail as the new council member.

>>3784856
Realistically with the Ironheads out of the way they should be fine. That said, do we know how much power SGS even has? They were already arguing hard about expanding to junkyard

>>3784876
They're powerful enough to become a counterbalance to the Protectorate if you have them side with the Black Eels preventing them from taking any more of the South. With that ending path it should be easy for them to have Rail Crossing join them as a branch faction with the train used to trade supplies.

>>3784856
>Why didn't they join with SGS?
SGS can't offer protection nor means for them to defend themselves.

Are there other games with turn based combat similar to Underrail? I mean like it's ''fast'' turn-based combat if that makes sense, the other turn-based games I've tried are a slog because the turns take forever

>need 10 str for super slam
well shit
my latest abomination

https://underrail.info/build/?HggDAwkDEAQAMgDCoAAAMlpfAABkcx5GMsKgAABGAMKgUCsILF8FH2XCh2YhwoTClCQjUMK3wrvCisOHwp3CruKdggriq4YF374

exoskeleton, sledgehammer+hoddurform
doesn't seem terrible but no premed is retarded but thought control is retarded in general

>>3785031
what was the inspiration for this?

>>3785055
I want to kill robots without having to rely on psi
and you need 6 fucking strength to wear an unpowered exoskeleton.

>>3773388
Plasma Beam comes so late that it doesn't even matter. I don't think it's even better than a very good Metathermics headband either.

Lol I wonder what other armor sets this dude responds to. Maybe the exos? He didn't react to the coretech armor

>>3785070
try grey army

>>3785073
Good idea. Lemme genocide natives first.

>>3785073
The normal, officer, and spec ops sets all give the same response. But yeah, very neat.

Also a nice touch that other tchortists respond to your prototype armor

>wanted a shitty meme tattoo
>coral

>>3785070
Exoskeletons do have their own dialogue, yeah. Lemurian marine does too.
>>3785118
Some of the shitty meme charms might actually be good. Specifically, the crit chance ones. I don't know how much they're worth because Styg refuses to give any information on charms like a stupid bitch, but trading a belt slot for crit chance might be okay. Maybe.

why does this fucking game keep updating on steam

Never had this happen before, I'm guessing it's because I threw a chem haze grenade at the door which lured the guards down here? The bandits completely buttraped the praetorians lol

I'M NOT LOCKED IN HERE WITH YOU
>>3785519
We've been getting little tweaks and bugfixes here and there, unless you mean something else
>>3785133
Neat, I'll have to try them later.

YOU'RE LOCKED IN HERE WITH ME

>>3785586
>We've been getting little tweaks and bugfixes here and there, unless you mean something else
Styg needs to release the sequel instead of adding crowbar mechanics and tweaking the assault rifle

>>3785519
discord sycophants telling styg about more fun to patch out

This is not an efficient way to spend bullets, but it is fun

>>3785118
>he doesn't know that you can remove Coral from the game
I forgot the exact file but its in the game's folder somewhere, deleting it gets rid of her.

>>3785668
KILL GYPSY

how much stealth do I need to get in and out of the compound

>>3785726
0, assuming you go in by the vent

Huh, didn't know one of the randomized extensions to the sgs outpost caves is the darkdweller crane cave area

Man I forgot how much I disliked the lenox/mordre part of the oculus quests
have irrefutable evidence he did it but I still can't kill him without sgs turning on me
despite him being alone in the middle of nowhere
yeah yeah, just craft gas grenades and cheese to work around poor quest design
or invest 90 points in a worthless skill

>>3785989
I like to think that Tanner had Mordre killed by sending a few sentries to wipe him out. I prefer just getting the quest over with to get into Oculus so I skip the gas grenade cheesing crap.

>>3785989
>just craft gas grenades and cheese
Well, you're playing Underrail after all.

Today is the day I make a pk mt psinigger and use that gay psychophract armor

It's been a long ass time since I played undertail, should I give it a shot? Has the early game changed at all? What builds should I run?

For example I've never done psi

oh nonono carnifex sissies not like this

>>3786530
I just killed him with metal breakdown+bilocation+bear trap.

How possible is it to get into the compound, snag an exo, and then leave without any stealth?

>>3786551
He wasn't even able to make a turn in my case. TC/TM is just so strong against in 1v1s.

>>3786593
Try it and tell us how it went.

>>3786595
Fuck it, I'll head up there in a bit. I only played HD once and I blew everyone up with a grenade launcher

>>3786604
Don't cryodogs defuse those?

>>3786646
Yeah I had a 9mm grudge as well

>>3786595
OKay that was a lot easier than I thought. Sick new armor.

>>3783056
I got my revenge after destroying the tanks, it was a real bitch.

>>3787027
do you not have implosion

>>3787034
I forgot about that ability, I rarely ever used it.

>>3787042
it would do at least 30% of tchort's hp
maybe more
a lot more with expose weakness

>>3783056
>heavily armored guy portrait on a 3 Con dude wearing a leather jacket
lol

>>3787027
grats bud

>>3787058
If he used leper poison and had vil weaponry it even oneshots him. Implosion honestly jacked for boss killing

>cleared the gauntlet with 13 hp left and the other runners almost at the end
FUCK burrowers
fuck the maze
fuck the lightning area you can't pause in

>>3787954
>who are you working for and are they hiring
Lel. Also reminded me I should make a regen focused build with that exo for fun.

>>3787722
Did you even get the keys? Looks like you had shit luck on your run getting the 3 worst rooms.

>>3788110
I couldn't get the keys in the electric area because I don't have sprint so I had to fight another room full of burrowers at the end

>>3772885 (OP)
https://limewire.com/d/AATaY#INZQYtYpPz
Save near utility tower.
Which I haven't managed to complete.
Can you try that save and tell me if it's even possible?

>>3788740
Too lazy to check a save, post a builder link instead.

>>3788740
its never impossible

>>3788749
I can't pass that outdoor part on dominating.
What's required not to loose all your health there?

>>3788764
bison leather

>>3788766
Got it both for boots and coat. Infused with super steel.
Though boots do not have insulating foam. padding.

>>3788764
use antithermic armor and keep throwing mollies at your feet when needed

>>3788793
> mollies
Any estimation on number I will need further?
I was trying to save them for the upper level.
And have just 20 of them.

>>3788820
20 should be plenty
just use them only when you need them

Should I even bother with TM for an LMG/minigun build or should I not since the only ability I'd even use is the AP/MP boost ability? I never find myself ever needing to use stasis, I guess it might be useful for dom but I just play on hard.

>>3788866
LMG? No. Minigun? Yes.

>ferryman is mad I killed all the natives and pirates
>won't tell me the body part
I only have 4 int but I used the hypercerebrix on him already and he won't talk to me anymore.
I think you can get another one in station zero but am I just fucked?

>>3788886
yeah, youre probably too dumb to get it from yngwar
may as well try though

>>3788886
I think you're just too low INT even with the pills to get into the philosophy discussion which gets you on his good side, I slaughter both the savages and pirates every playthrough and the ferryman still talks to me and takes the sub to the abyssal station for me. Did go through the dialogue choices until you could tell him that you notice him staring into the water which opens up the philosophy talk?

>>3788869
Well maybe I'll have my character take the pill later since I won't be using a minigun for awhile anyway if I decide to use one.

>>3788841
Doesn't work for me. Maybe I'm just too slow for real time play.

Well, and how that fireplace mechanic works?
Do I get it right that debuf stack is going to be reduced only when I'm nearby that fireplace?
Or is it - I lit it anywhere on the screen and stack number decreases disregarding my proximity to the fireplace?

>>3788895
yeah but I'm too low int for philosophy 1

>>3788886
Should've used the hypercerebrix on you, dumbass.

Bad news, I started using underrail slang in real life.

>>3789374
bre

>finally get all the items I need to hypnotise myself into thinking charms do something
>gypsy refuses to spawn
styg i hate you
i hate you

>>3789404
LOL

>>3789410
I did it!
I now have a bonus that is possibly stronger when it feels like it when it feels like working at all and also I'm not even sure what it does in the first place. The wiki says crit chance but that may or may not be correct. Even if it is it's probably only like 1% more. But whatever it is, I have it.

>>3788927
Thank you everyone for the hints.
Managed to get through, even being such a clumsy player as myself.

Healing nearby fireplace - that's the key I was missing.

Spent coal when breaking all the ice on the upper layer. Till that - last frozen wasn't giving me required dialog options.

>>3789374
It's gonna be hard reading a bunch of fraggin gay lingo in Infusion.

How the FUCK do I do the stolen railcart quest on hard when the sniper just oneshots me through 9 con?

>>3789785
wait nvm, I could solo them with a sniper rifle of my own despite having zero relevant feats... Why the fuck are shotguns so weak???

When did Styg add this slot nonsense?

>>3789796
Prob an accuracy or range problem

>>3789778
We don't know where infusion takes place right?

>>3789893
not the south, not the north, someplace new, someplace somehow associated with NFT

>>3790031
Wait what the fuck. He confirmed it's related to the NFT? WHAT

>>3790060
some people spotted a few things in the pics and vids he's posted so far

>>3790074
Fucking sick.

Went melee stealth hammer build and now the faceless fags end game meetup is a fucking death sentence since I loved slaughtering them en masse. My fun gimmick build has fucked me.

Are there any factions or people that could be considered genuinely good guys? SGS might be the closest thing there is but they did go and wipe out that Omega station instead of trying to coexist.

>>3790312
it wont let you sneak from the previous map?
and you dont have smoke bombs?

>>3790377
omega actually did start it, SGS just finished it
and no, SGS isnt good, its neutral and lightly benevolent to its allies

I would argue the free drones are the closest thing to "good" in that they are putting their lives on the line (and giving up their old lives entirely) just to make the future a better place

>>3790453
>Free Drones
They're terrorists and kill civilians, even people that aren't supportive of the Protectorate like Sneaky tells you about the shit they do up north causing civilian causalities like bombing places.

>>3790598
>>3790377
Rail crossing, Hathor, and Foundry are pretty neutral/good.
SGS seems neutral/good but they also took in some Biocorp people. Omega, at least according to SGS people, wasn't really their fault. But who knows.
Free drones are mixed, gassing civilians (could be CAU false flag op but who knows), becoming more radicalized in some ways according to Sneaky, stealing the supplies rail crossing needs.
Protectorate is the flip side of that coin. Stability and unity but killing innocents (according to the renegades), CAU and assimilatingg Biocorp. They also I think threatened Bate's daughter or something, causing him to become a spy.
Oculus is seemingly neutral but a bit more chaotic since they carry out assassinations and helped the free drones with Maura.

NFT in some ways were good people but they were using the shadowlith so inevitably were going to ruin everything.
Biocorp had the compound to protect humanity from void creatures or something along the lines of that but were also evil shits responsible for tchort, the faceless, NFT being decimated, mutagen, etc.

>>3790710
>get one of the many alien artifacts lying around
>except this one isn't a godmen one it just connects to an evil god lmao pranked
lemuria at its peak sounds pretty cool

>>3790749
I think it would've been a baller place to live, yeah. What a tragedy.

>>3790749
The only good thing that came of the evil god rock is that they obliterated Biocorp's submarine with it, and I'm assuming the sub was pretty big because it was a 'siege carrier' submarine. Other than that, they got pranked so fucking hard lol.

Is there no way to make incendiary and cryo pistols before Depot A

>>3790782
It requires retard luck or refresh merchant CE, but colton and gort. I got mine from gort. You could also check blaine and fixer but I'm not sure about those two.

>>3790074
can't believe styg is cashing in on non fungible tokens 4 years after they were cool

>>3789785
Snipers have a tendency to oneshot you unless you have very high mechanical resistance. It's just their nature. The only real solution is to shoot/nade them first or break line of sight and force them to get up close.

>>3789796
You're probably using one of the shitty shells, its best to just stick with the red shells while using the yellow shells on creatures and unarmored enemies.

>>3790598
ok retard

>>3790710
>Rail crossing, Hathor, and Foundry are pretty neutral/good.
all solidly neutral

It's really sad that these guys heard a mysterious noise and got murdered. Really sad times.
On the other hand, free Praetorian outfits.

Why didn't he make an expansion with cybernetics?

>>3791000
wasnt ready yet
infusion will have cybernetics

>>3790930
Idk. The foundry government is pretty alright. Sure working there sucks but that's not the fault of the government. They could very easily just tell everyone to nut up or use slaves in the mines or something but instead they go out of their way to make sure everyone's lives are as comfortable as possible barring what they can't do anything about like the hazardous working conditions. They even have a police force that respects due process. I know this sounds basic in the enlightened times we live in but by the standards of the setting Foundry is practically saintly.

>>3791032
I see
yes, good for its own people
but it doesnt help others

>>3791037
>yes, good for its own people
>but it doesnt help others
I wonder (((who))) is behind this post

>>3791056
kek
altruism is jewish

>>3791037
Yes, you should help your own first. What part are you struggling with?

>>3791057
No, but you are.
Who should they even help, aside from those who are under their own protection already?
Schizophrenic psionics? Warmongering clans of foreigners? Spooks who live in the utility tunnels?

>>3791032
It’s funny how much shit gets past them
>evelyn murder bunker, if it goes unsolved one man per week dies
>the couple who pay you to murder each other, foundry agents can’t figure out shit
>getting the guilty oculus assassin out of prison
>you can use your rep to talk to him or just say he’s your husband if you’re a woman
>can also just persuade the warden that you’re on duty to check the surveillance system or whatever
>arms dealer in their own ranks
>hobos harassing that butcher guy
>can’t handle the beast, refuse to use your plan because too risky
>everyone’s fucking sick and dying

>>3790930
To be fair, it’s a brutal world they live in. Hard for anyone to be altruistic when they’re all just trying to survive. Rail crossing, Hathor and Foundry aren’t in a place to give when they’re both under pressure from the faceless, ironheads, rat king, burrowers, and the beast. For me personally, if you’re on trading terms and willing to help each other out for a cost, that’s good enough. SGS sending you to give aid to hathor and rail crossing is pretty decent all things considered. And none of these groups seem like they would backstab each other. Unlike the junkyard gangsters or core city.

>>3791078
If they elected a non-idiot mayor, maybe things would work.

>>3791085
kek

>>3791085
And become a dictatorship? Sorry but only idiots can be elected for the Good of Democracy™.

Camp Hathor are pretty chill guys as well, they just spend their days hunting to supply factions like SGS with fresh meat. Though they must be pretty shit at hunting people since they couldn't do shit about the Rathound King or even knew that he lived just a couple of maps south of them.

>>3791072
nobody said you shouldnt, you nutcase

>>3791076
no, you're just a buttmad touchy baby

>>3791083
yeah im not blaming them for anything

>>3791105
harper get a trip so I can filter you, thanks.

>tfw no tchortist /k/ gf
>>3790992
>>3785579
Lol same thing happened to me.

>>3791121
The Tchortists are such nice people, I don't get why you have to slaughter them all.

>>3791097
The sarine quest is still the funniest fucking thing to me

>>3791123
YOU dont

>>3791123
It's a shame. I like to imagine some of them hid and escaped through the vents or something.

>>3791128
nevil

>>3791128
>>3791131
and the DC ones

>>3791133
>>3791131
True. I mean nevil is a special case since he figured out all of the fucked up shit and left early on, it's not like he was fighting for his one and only home and family. But yeah the DC guys eventually ditch tchort and disappear.

https://www.stygiansoftware.com/wiki/index.php?title=Psionic_Transceiver
Has anyone used this before? It seems like it would be funny against lunatics but I’ve never tried it. Also does anyone use the hypno goggles (aside from the persuasion boost)

>>3791141
nobody mains hypno goggles
they have some synergy with cut-throat, but nobody uses that either

>>3791149
oh whoops, thought that pic had the transceiver in it too
they put it on, get the buff, then switch to a crafted headband

>>3791149
>>3791150
Holy shit lol. Well it's good to know you can swtich off it. Shame about the hypno goggles but they just don't seem very useful or interesting in the first place. I'm a little tempted to do max persuasion character with them but that's probably a waste of time.

>>3791141
>Has anyone used this before? It seems like it would be funny against lunatics but I’ve never tried it.
Yeah, it's fun to hit stupid high numbers.
Also don't forget to use it near the oculus mainframe.

>>3791153
poor lunies
they're always trying to get to monoliths but they can never quite do it

>>3791154
>>3791153
The whole transfinity thing is bs right? it's just taht they can sense oculus despite it being invisible or whatever?

>>3791134
>he doesn't personally kill all the DC tchortists
Unlike the ones in the institute they're fully aware of what Tchort really is and still willingly work for it.

>>3791191
I usually forget about them lol.

>>3791188
no, as evidenced by the hexagonal gem

>>3791194
I'm not sure I understand what's going on there. I'll have to replay the section unless you feel like explaining.

>>3791196
you give him juice so he can actually see oculus, but it also just powers up his already superior senses and he can actually see the shit he's been talking about
he then runs off and ascends dimensions, apparently
or at least learns to riftwalk

it's yogi content, so Ive never paid close attention or given it much thought

>>3791198
Huh, interesting. Thanks

>going through music album
>almost all the songs sound the same
>it's just okay
>one song sounds completely different and knocks my socks off
>album reverts back to original sound after, pretending like it didn't just drop a beautiful atom bomb into my ears
this is peak

>>3791141
PT's useful for memes, big number screenshots and reading oculus mainframe lore.

>>3791495
>reading oculus mainframe lore.
Is there some lore locked behind the PT?

>>3791577
To see all the lore in the goonframe you need to have a certain amount of points in each psionic skill. So someone who isn't doing unipsi won't be able to read all the lore normally. Psionic Tranceiver gives you bonuses to every psi skill for every psi user nearby, and Oculus is full of them, so just putting the hat on as a character with no skill points in psi whatsoever will let you see all the lore.

>>3791149
>>3791495
can't believe there are midwits who think that neural overload is bad instead of being the strongest ability for both tranquility and psychosis cave wizards

like this game but I get halfway and ditch it or start again. no saves either.. must've done the first section up to junkyard 30 odd times
Anyway, metathermic ice fire chem pistol mad scientist? Viable? Possible?

>>3791597
>metathermic ice fire chem pistol mad scientist? Viable? Possible?
Meta chem pistols is generally one of the strongest builds, but I would go all in on fire damage.

>>3791596
please stand still sir

>>3791596
I use it when I play as a cave wizard, its perfect for stealth kills since it doesn't make any noise.

that wasn't so bad really

>>3791617
it's just overpowered in every aspect. it is the most spammable ability, it is silent, you can wallbang people with it, it completely ignores shield and armour, it does really good damage especially if you get hoddurform, you can make it splash with locus of control... if it was any stronger it would be actively gamebreaking like stasis is.

>>3791637
>it would be actively gamebreaking like stasis is.
everyone keeps saying this but I find it the exact opposite, what kind of situations did you ever need stasis for and that it even did anything to help and not just prolong your death?

>>3791656
>wait for cooldowns
>waste enemies abilities
>longer buffs
>chill while enemies burn/melt/etc
>bait every one to cluster and drop big aoe
>you are literally invulnerable

>did health center before nexus
>can't report anything to oldfield
>even though I have the acorn and rescued todd

>>3791662
except for distortions
and your charged gear can still be emp'd
you can still be entangled, gear rusted, expose weaknessed

>>3791656
At minimum, it's a +1 turn duration on all your buffs.

>>3791656
Literally doubles your alpha strike
>huff all the drugs in your inventory
>walk around the corner in stealth and get in position
>exit stealth, use adrenaline and contraction and start murdering
>at the end of the turn use stasis (can be free with premeditation)
>when stasis ends you get a free turn with all your buffs (including blindside which normally lasts 1 turn) to finish off anything that survived

>start a sniper build
>pick up a grenade launcher since it seems like a perfect 2nd slot weapon for a sniper
>is now a grenade launcher build in you are path
I hate stygger.

>>3791819
grenade launchers only use two feats
you can still use both

>>3791819
I thought I was the only one. I was having problems with crowd control with a gunslinger build at Depot A and I didn't have enough coins to spam bear traps, but then I found The Thumper, decided to give it a go and never turned back.
It saved me against those mutant dogs near the turrets.

>>3791819
Please tell all your friends how good grenade launchers are so they buy Heavy Duty too.

>>3791819
I did the same and the sniper was still superior for most encounters.
You don't get to cheat AP with grenade launchers.

>>3786530
>flashbang
>stealth
>cut his throat

Gimmicky but funny.

Thumper is pretty much the go to side weapon if you're doing a gun/heavy gun build regardless of whichever gun it is.

>>3791656
I’ve only ever used it in dominating when I massively fuck up positioning and need to be invincible while retaining my buffs. It is quite good.

I used to hate dc but now I love it

>>3791597
>Viable? Possible?
you can beat the game with no items even on dom.

>>3791597
Versatility chem pistol + metathermics was one of my favorite builds in this game.
Your chem pistol is stat hungry so i go max dexterity. Psionics is talent hungry, but 10 will is enough. You get all the psychosis/mania and metathermics talents, you can blast people like crazy.

You can even increase the metathermics damage with chem pistol attacks! Which doesn't really work very well cause you're usually hitting enemies with metathermics abilities first since they have much higher range and acid pistol is usually the best pistol but at least the option is there

I wonder if Styg has ever beaten his own game on Dominating difficulty.

>>3792881
of course not, he's not a weirdo no-life nerd.

>>3792881
I dont think he has finished a run since before dom was implemented
probably not a whole lot of fun to play a long game that you made and know everything about

How do I make the most out of a silenced weapon gun? Feels like both are out matched by knives for close range and crossbows if I'm planning a long term fight

>>3791819
Is spearhead still the best sniper? Or should I also make a reaper for stronger single targets

>>3793406
smg is best, pistol is still doable
laser pistol is almost as quiet and much better
but just do an smg build except with a silencer instead of a rapid reloader or muzzle brake

>>3793407
spearhead is still the best
you *can* make a 12.7 for nagas and turrets and shit, but its really not necessary

>>3793412
got it, thx. i'll stick with dragunov until i can craft a better spearhead

>>3793410
I'm questioning the validity of the silencer as an attachment for any build, like is there any scenario where it's the better option?

>>3793414
its only for when you need to kill someone completely quietly, as in a nigger could be RIGHT around the corner and wouldnt hear anything

>>3793415
but then why not just use a knife or crossbow

>>3793416
because those are melee and crossbow skills respectively

>>3793417
right but if i'm specializing into guns then a 5mm isn't going to be able to do anything against robots

not to mention the silencer also lowers the damage, like you'd have to be able to kill your target in one round and then also move out of LOS

>>3793422
Aimed shot, execute, crit-boosting gear, smart goggles, taser, appropriate feats like blindsiding. I guess? Tbh never played with silenced firearms, they seem gimmicky but maybe they have a place in the midgame against human targets?

>>3793420
it will
ive seen a guy beat the faceless commander fight with 5mm smgs, and the commander himself is one of the tankiest enemies in the game, if not the tankiest

you'll have to build it right and have good shit, stack damage sources

>>3793420
granted this is an AR and thus has concentrated fire, but its a non-crafted non-refurbished gun, no lube, not max level, etc

you can do it

>>3793429
How are smgs compared to ars?

>>3793432
slightly less optimal, imo
you have to dedicate more and work harder, but I think they can shit out more damage per turn than ARs can, overall

>>3793428
right i'm just wondering if there's any way to make the gimmick not be ass for most of the game
>>3793431
yeah exactly that's an AR, a silenced SMG would be worse since the barrel slot could be used for a more effective combat addon

>>3793433
I see, thanks. Well I might as well try an smg build some time. Probably 7 str for full auto, whatever per for feats, and then pump dex with versatility. Something like that.

>>3793435
>yeah exactly that's an AR, a silenced SMG would be worse since the barrel slot could be used for a more effective combat addon
depends
if you had a very high quality one, with lube, you might match or surpass this damage, especially if you went high per instead of dex

>>3793438
if I played an smg build, Id go
>7 str
>17 dex
>7 agi (hit & run, advanced naval combat)
>6 per
>5 int
vers, but not specced

Really hope the next Underrail game has a more open start, there's pretty much no sequence choice until you get to Depot A and the early game random events aren't exactly inspiring

Really would like if you could go to part of railway crossing or camp hathor during the early game

>>3793450
Also want some kind of overlap with pickpocket, it's either a skill you take or don't

Same with traps feels like I have to completely rewire my brain if I want to use that offensively

>>3793450
it's confirmed to not have a starting town like sgs
he also said you can beat the game without ever speaking to anyone

>>3793455
*nods*

Do throwing knives fall off or is it viable to the late game?

>>3793462
viable

its harder to do just throwing knives, but throwing itself is very strong
knives mainly struggle with bots

>>3793463
lol i forgot you can fucking throw bottles of acid in this game

>>3793463
Yeah I guess that's fair most builds in this game struggle with bots

>>3793462
They stay super strong against anything with low mechanical resistence, especially organics.
The problem is robots. You need shock shurikens for those, normal throwing knives won't do shit.

Just did DC since the changes and honestly it isn't so bad anymore. Not having to do the labyrinth is huge

>>3791656
>what kind of situations did you ever need stasis for
waiting out enemy buffs and cooldowns.
getting multiple enemies in a crowd.

come the fuck on, nigga.

The worst thing about this game is that the game wants you to grit your teeth like a good cuck and never kill a single named NPC because you'll aggro the entire faction, and there's no discrete methods of removing NPCs outside of quests either; You kill them and everyone will find out.

>>3793535
other than sgs, the game doesnt give a single fuck if you kill entire factions

>>3793537
What I dislike is how the game always lets NPCs start fights with you, but you're never allowed to act yourself without pissing off the entire town. Furthermore, not everyone should react the same way. And I don't think an entire town should magically know you snuck into someone's house and killed a grandma in her sleep either.

I was able to take out the side guard camp on my current run right after doing the Omega Compound and now I'm hauling around 15 guns with one merch to sell them to that will offer charons, i hate waiting 90 minutes for merch inventory to reset

>>3793541
I don't like the whole controlled zone thing or whatever it's called either.

>>3793546
I think the issue is that population zones are too dense with not enough NPCs that wander

>>3793546
It's kind of based on VtM's Masquerade system, I believe, but its handled a lot better in that game.

>>3793541
its meant to simulate shit like "oh yeah I saw that guy enter that building; it must have been him", surveillance systems, detectives, etc

>>3793535
>>3793541
>>3793546
>>3793547
>>3793559
None of this shit actually matters.
Why don't you play games that actually spend a lot of effort in simulating NPC lives?
Oh wait, all those games suck.

>>3793568
Because if the game is going to tell it's own stories about individual murder and assassination I would like to tell my own stories about murder and assassination

>>3793569
Then make a game with a quest about assassinating someone.

>>3793568
>None of this shit actually matters.
HOLY COPE.

Are you on Stygg's payroll?
>Oh wait, all those games suck.
You can kill people in Fallout 1 and not basically break your entire game doing so.

>>3793576
Your game isn't perfect, styg

>>3793577
>You can kill people in Fallout 1 and not basically break your entire game doing so.
Same in Underrail.
>But why doesn't the station police launch an investigation which may discover me depending on the clues at the scene of the crime and-
None of this makes the game more interesting to actually play and i wish i could tell every autistic game developer that.

>>3793583
motherfucker no one is saying that the problem is literally that npcs are telepathic if specific npcs get killed and your option is either slaughter the entire town or reload

>>3793583
>Same in Underrail.
>entirety of a quest hub is permanently locked out and almost every single hobo in town will immediately run toward you and try to pelt you to beat you to death after you slit the throat of a single drunk laying in a pool of his own vomit in an obscure part of town with zero witnesses to your crime
Dude, no. It's not the same at all.
>None of this makes the game more interesting to actually play and i wish i could tell every autistic game developer that.
What's autistic is how the game demands you be a compliant lawcuck at all times.

>>3793586
>the problem is literally that npcs are telepathic
Like in Fallout 1? Based Styg retvrning to the classics.

>>3793588
*and try to beat you to death

>>3793586
>>3793590
GODDAMN TC PSINIGGERS IN MY GAME RUINING MY MURDERHOBO SPREE

>>3793590
>Like in Fallout 1?
lol no, plus you can actually wait out bounties or even comply with the local authorities.

Styg you cunt why did you only write one quest after you find Oculus

Where's the quest where I can help my autistic wife phillis learn how to love (lesbian)

>>3793595
Stop crushing on every female npc, you absolute horndog. Styg will never give you a waifu. For me it's Hanna. tfw no tchortist gf

>>3793598
phillis and yahota are the only women i cared about and at least you could have some nice moments with yahota

>>3793600
Yeah Phillis is cute.
Does Yahota have nice moments? She just talks about how she wants to be alone, and iirc there's a moment where she's like i don't really have shit to say to you now that the expeditions over.
Anastasia is cool. Vivian is everyone's tragic favorite. I think Katherine at Junkyard would be an underrated waifu.

>>3793588
except that it doesnt, as I stated earlier and you clearly ignored

>>3793605
doxy is the only one who actually wants you and she's like 15 to boot

amelia is the hottest

>>3793606
>ackshually you have a """"choice"""" of murdering an entire enemy base, or not doing so!!!
Faggot.

>>3793608
you mean the grey army?
you can kill a particular guy for his keycard and uniform without turning the base red

>>3793609
You know that's not what I'm talking about, but okay.

>>3793607
>doxy
oh god i forgot about that family
>amelia
>tfw she genuinely smiles when you talk about dropping grenades at your feet
I NEED TCHORTIST GF NOW

>you can put a laser cat into the bio processor in dc and it makes a laser pew sound as it gets killed
lol

>>3793605
if you have good perception or some shit she is impressed that you can see stuff out in the sea from her tower

Anons, do you kill the hobo, get him arrested by the praetorians, or leave him alone?
>>3793617
Oh okay yeah I know about that one. It's a nice moment. Oh I just remembered you can ask if she's banging her dad based off the Ladelman's dialogue. God I love that guy. His impression of her makes me chuckle too.

>>3793595
answer my fucking question styg

you gave every other town multiple quests then we find some psychic cctv building and all the work they have for us is stalking an old man who dies right before he explains that mutagen makes people immortal

>>3793620
It's kinda funny how cucked oculus is because all of their quests are frontloaded before you even get to find out who they really are. If we ever get underrail 2 in the north, at least we might learn more about those psiniggers that work with oculus

>>3793619
I gave him a hundred coin and pickpocketed it back.

I MISSED THE 94% CHANCE SNIPE OOOOOOOOOUGH H HH IWFHWEIWHAWI IHATE YOU STYGGG IIAIAHAIAHREFIESf

>>3793611
I dont, nobody knows what you're talking about
there are several "enemy base"s in the game

>>3793617
>yahota perception check
fucking what
how have I never encountered that one

>>3793619
I leave him alone; its trash so nobody wants it
can't smell him from inside my house
anybody who messes with him is just a sadist

>>3793628
Iirc you can spot some spiders or some shit and she's like, oh good catch

>>3793630
hopper island
how about that
I wonder how much you need; I know ive talked to her with high per characters so I probably just didnt delve into her dialogue enough

>>3793619
I pay him 50 charons to fuck off

>>3793466
>blitz through the power plant with my 18 will 8 str tc character by beating everything to death with a sledgehammer
2 or more nagas still meant I had to use emps and vanish grenades though

NEW WAIFU?

>>3793579
Yes, by and large, it is.

>>3793783
>camp hathor refuses to sell javelins after several refreshes
>can't find a fucking knife handle
>0 sturdy vests have spawned
I'm basically naked and I have to wait for something to spawn to be able to kill anything without spending all my grenades.

>>3793839

If you have hathor unlocked just go to core city you fucking retard

>>3793841
I guess I could do the early arena rounds with my 60 quality dagger because I'd be using grenades anyway.
I like to be able to kill the other contestants though.

>>3793839
I dont think ive ever seen hathor not have a javelin

>>3793844

if you are looking for a dagger just go grab kukri
or the wicked hook from foundry near the pigs

>>3793839
Skill issue.

>>3793839
did you know a guy just beat the game on dom using zero items?

>>3793936
unless it was his second playthrough it's not impressive that a master of the game knows how to ignore all of the obvious gameplay choices

>>3793944
yeah honestly its not really very impressive anymore
once you know the game like the back of your hand everything is easy; my current run feels like I'm playing on normal

is that sledgehammer anon still around can you post the sledgehammer build thats tanky and has some mobility with leather?

>>3793978
im not pigman, but I can one-up that build

https://stygiansoftware.com/forums/index.php?topic=10715.0

Also since it keeps being mentioned, unarmed builds are by nature easier to build since it's entirely feat based and items barely affect your damage

>>3793982
>items barely affect your damage
It kinda sucks to play unarmed without tabis

>>3793992
Yeah but it's not as shitty as playing a build that uses STR for guns like the AR or Sniper and having to slog through the early game with a crappy pistol until end of Omega Warehouse

>>3793997
Early unarmed is abysmal. It starts being nice around the later mid game due to how scaling works.
Last time I played unarmed (fist) I actually retried a couple of early encounters using a (admittedly crappy) sledge instead just to see the difference and it was night and day. Gloves are also so much of an improvement over naked fists that you'd be a fool not to use them.
Still obviously doable completely naked, don't get me wrong, but it's not pleasant.

If you get mutated by mutagen at the waterways will all of the muties be friendly to you there? Probably not, right

>>3794086
it would take some serious shenanigans to get to that mutagen without any of them seeing you, but im willing to bet they'd still be hostile

id like to see someone prove it though

>drugging my hopper with jumping bean, feeding it soda, and casting psychotemporal contraction on it every time it makes a lap so I can win 4.5k shekels
god i love this game

>>3794150
is that the spec ops armor?

>>3794159
Yup. I'm only using it because it looks cool desu

>>3794160
based fashion enjoyer

>>3793876
currently 1 for 4

Does anyone have a shotgun / grenade launcher build

I knew riot shield builds were a meme, but I really underestimated how half-baked they really are. What sort of mad man would specialize into having a CHANCE at countering only ONE damage type and ONLY in melee? And the sad thing is that even though I'm hyperspecialized into negating mechanical melee, I can still get dunked by sledgehammers if I'm unlucky enough.

>>3794728
they're effectively a specialist gear
like how you wear the cau when doing acid/bio shit
you wear riot if youre fighting a bunch of melee enemies as a character that cant wear tungsten, doesnt have infused sea wyrm, and ideally uses one handed weapons while having at least mediocre strength

however, if you ever play a noncrafter, you'll find that they make a pretty good generalist armor

>>3794634
How about
5 str
5 dex: leading shot
10 agi: blitz, hit and run, nimble, sprint
10+ per: parabola, fragmented chaos
5+ int: tricky trajectory
sixth shell
barrel stare
could also throw on pellet mayhem, critical power and recklessness too
something like that? idk if anyone has a proper build thing for this

Is Yell with full Intimidation worth it?

>>3794754
ye

>>3794735
The issue is that there are several perks supporting it that give little payoff and require stats that would place you 1 point away from being able to wear tungesten regardless. Specializing in riot shields make you slightly better against melee while significantly worse against everything else. It's even arguably less reliable against melee than just wearing metal armor and using spear guard for less overall investment.

>>3794728
Every time I think I want to try a build with a riot shield I realize I don't lol

>have 10 more base initiative than carnifex
>first throw spear crits
>use recurrence and increment
>second throw spear crits
>put down exothermic aura
>he dies to recurrence while trying to catch me in all the fire
first attempt on him too
nice build highlight

>>3794778
>>3794789
If you fully spec shield bash you can use it every turn for no AP cost. That'd be cool. It probably wouldn't be worth it, but it'd be cool.

>>3794778
well yeah, you dont take riot feats

>>3794754
spec it too.

Does the industrial exo drill scale with melee or anything? I've been trying to use it on a random character and it misses all the time

>>3795244
nvm i'm retarded yeah you need melee to hit with this idk why i thought you wouldn't need that. still sucks tho.

>>3794789
I ultimately still thinks it's worth experiencing. It could use buffs for sure, but it's a very different, albeit gimmicky way of playing the game.

>>3794951
>>3795345
Should I do spear and shield? I'm frankly sick of using swords lately.

>>3795363
spears and shields don't work very well together

>>3795363
>>3795414
>>3795345
There is nothing in this game worse than shields

>need skill or the comfort of my home to just pour poison onto my knives
I see...

Carnifex says that dread lord is missing his head, yet he fights with bare fists. Did he rip dread lord's head off with his hands or something?

>>3795471
you spill it into your mouth like dr. zilch
>>3795484
probably.

>carefully plan skills
>forget I can't use boning knife and Phreak's glove at the same time
i am stupid

Is there an up to date CE table?

>>3795861
it still has working merchant refresh, stats you can edit (except its pre HD so everything is shifted down one) and item duping, but idt there's any table for latest.

>>3795861
>>3795875
My most recently downloaded table has heavy guns included, check the CE thread and download the latest table from the comments, should be up to date

>>3796155
oh i'm dumb. gotta download the new table then

>there's a conversation with kokoschka about bald women if you recruit kaya from the waterways dungeon
lol

>>3796182
oh, damn, I missed that
I had her there once

>>3796333
there's some other neat little interactions
>becket says kaya looks just like izumi because they use the same character portrait and model
>other free drones say that kaya looks just like izumi
>darling says izumi is really hungry
>trenton says that izumi is doing well and her connections to the eels might come in handy
>kaya herself laughs at how everyone keeps confusing her for izumi, and has a handful of lines about missing her brother, accepting her new life with the free drones, and 'nom nom nom'

I never checked if there's anything for her if you have her side with the cans, will have to try that next time.

>>3796573
>tfw got them mixed up in my own post

>>3773003
regardless of the corpse type on the ground, they still drop electronic loot, which wouldnt make sense if they were mutants or zombies
what the fuck even happened there