Daily reminder that action RPGs are not actual RPGs. All Diabshit, Yshit and Breath Of Fire/Secret of Manashit belong with the Legend of Zelda, Dark Souls and Monster Hunter, all of which no one in their right mind would consider an RPG.

>breath of fire
>action rpg
breath of fire is turn based, OP. what in god's name are you talking about?

>>3787483
I meant Breath of the Wild

>>3787483
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IqXc4C6rGiI

>>3787490
>Breath of the Wild belongs with Legend of Zelda
Nice try, bro. Fuck off, secondary.

If you level up stats then it's an RPG, it's as shrimple as that.

>>3787523
Is Madden an RPG?

>>3787532
A sports RPG, yes. Doesn't it even let you assemble your own party?

>>3787512
seriously, shits of the wild doesn't belong anywhere near zelda, put that shit in with elder scrolls garbage where it belongs

>>3787532
it's an rpg for jocks too uptight to play an rpg with wizards and goblins and shit.

>>3787495
Gross. It never happened. Shut up.

>>3787473 (OP)
>he didn't say Elder Scrolls or Nu-Fallout
fake post

>>3787473 (OP)
Why are you doing this!? Why are you Fucking being an Asshole right now?

>>3787473 (OP)
Well explained and argued, I am thoroughly convinced.

>>3787561
My football teammates played Morrowind… on Xbox, gross. I tried to get them to play fallout 1 but they got filtered by a radscorpion encounter right outside vault 13.

>>3787473 (OP)
>action RPGs are not actual RPGs.
They're better than that

Another stupid attention whore thread. And with people taking what I hesitate to even call bait.
The absolute state of this board...

>>3787473 (OP)
>Monster Hunter
Monster hunter has been established as a rpg for decades.Ask any old goldbox fans is monster hunter and they will immediately tell you "of course".

>>3787843
Ah yes, the esteemed council of old goldbox fans

>>3787843
Old Goldbox Fan #21814 here, Monster Hunter is an action game.
Action games are fun.
RPG doesn't mean "good".
Hope this helps.

>>3787495
Delete this.

>>3787495
man, Dragon Quarter really marked the beginning of the end for this series

>>3789369
>mfw only played 1, 2, 3 and stopped
Many such cases

>>3789375
at least play 4, it's considered to be the last good one

>>3787532
Yes and so is Call of Duty multiplayer since leveling up gets you better gear and perks.

>>3787473 (OP)
Just call them Action Adventures. It's what you do - adventure.

>>3787473 (OP)
>action rpg are not rpgs!

this is you thinking the defining aspect of being an rpg or not is having turn-based combat, which is fucking wrong

>>3789647
And RPGs are Inaction Adventures

>>3789656
No, RPGs are games where you play a role. Make decisions that reflect the role you are playing.

>>3789684
Like Telltale's the Walking Dead

>>3789751
I guess thecnically, except The Walking Dead sucks shit when it comes to playing a role. Lee is a predefined character with his own views and opinions and character traits, and therefore branching dialog makes no sense for him. Most of the choices you're allowed to make are complete nonsense.
Other predefined protag games like CDPR trash tend to suffer from similar issues. It's exceptionally rare to be able to make a GOOD roleplaying game with a predefined protagonist, because either the choices interfere with the established character building, or the protag has no character and at that point you should have just allowed your players to create their own protags.
On the topic of Telltale, the closest they've gotten to making a good game with choices was The Wolf Amogus, because most choices from there are somewhat reasonably believable for Wolf to make, seeing as he's a struggling ex violent criminal trying to rehabilitate. Silent options show him off trying to be stoic and serious, friendly options show him trying and possibly overcompensating in being a good cop, and hostile options show him relapsing into his old ways.

>>3789764
>The Wolf Amogus
sus

>>3787473 (OP)
Action games must be excluded to make a workable definition but the fags in this board are in denial about it.

>>3787473 (OP)
You don't get to define what an RPG is, you autistic faggot.

>>3791195
>What is a woman?

>>3789380
Dragon Quarter is not only the last good one, it's also the first good one.

>>3787473 (OP)
Yeah, fair enough.

>>3787473 (OP)
>>3787843
I can't see anyone who plays Monster Hunter as well as RPGs considers it an RPG. I have played shit tons of Monster Hunter. Well over 1000 hours on the first game and other than the Wii entry, hundreds of hours on every other one up to Generations Ultimate.

Monster Hunter has a lot of thematic similarities to RPGs in that it's a fantasy setting which honestly is like 90% of RPGs and the game centers around doing quests for people. For one though, most RPGs have a story and characters the game makes them try to care about. Monster Hunter has only paper thin characters and story. Beating the ultimate last boss in 3 all they say is wowie kazowie. Also
RPGs have always been defined as games that use character stats and abilities to determine combat outcomes. Why in Skyrim if you're high level and in massive armor you can just stand still and take no meaningful damage while being raged on by a dragon and then kill it by hitting the attack button a few times. That's not Monster Hunter. Monster Hunter is an action game, specifically it's a boss rush action game. It is all about learning the patterns and specific bullshit of the current monster so you can avoid it and land your own attacks. You collect new armor and stuff but it's mostly cosmetic (though this does get less true as the series goes on) and if you're not actively playing then you can be in end game equipment and get trampled to death in seconds. Finally, usually in RPGs there's a leveling system that makes your character progress and grow. You do go up in hunter ranks in Monster Hunter but they really don't affect much, it's just a marker of progress

>>3791360
A miserable little pile of secrets.
You'd think there might be a difference from a man, but no, not in this case.

>>3787473 (OP)