Thread 3807612

jesus fucking christ
who tought its a good idea

*holds up spork*

If I ever replay WotR I will kill all of the companions.

o kurwa

>>3807612 (OP)
As one anon said, the companions feel like actual players, not characters in a game and I'm certain he's right.

>>3807840
its awful

>>3807845
Who right in his mind thought that a good idea? It's THE immersion killer.

Isnt that furry fetish self inser of one of devs?

>>3807612 (OP)
What's the problem? She might be my favorite companion.

>>3807612 (OP)
I don't know, but I want to fuck a fox.

>>3807868
See
>>3807869

>>3807612 (OP)
i thought she was funny and i liked her quest[spoiler/]

>>3807867
Furry is only gay because their fat costumes look retarded and they literally have gay sex. Animaloid humans are fine.

I didn't mind any of the companions
People can seethe about standards and taste all they want but man, it's so much easier to enjoy things when you let yourself

I like that Nenio makes people seethe with her unashamed cringe and refusal to suck your dick because as far as she's concerned she's the Main Character, not you, and from her perspective, she's right.

>>3807938
>refusal to suck your dick
That's not what my headcanon and art say

>>3807957
Doesn't count unless you've made a mod for it.

>>3807612 (OP)
Autism

>>3807957
Autism

I didn't like her but I didn't rage at her and it's a little poignant when you find out she's basically a malfunctioning android.

>>3807840
What do you mean? I haven't played it

>>3808033
they're annoying as fuck and trying to be the center of attention

>>3807840
>>3808062
Ironically that makes the game more accurate to tabletop roots. People who don't actually participate have little understanding how tabletop RPGs play out in practice.

>>3808127
yeah these are not real players entire thing ends up being nuisance

>>3808033
They behave like the ttrpg ayer, not the character. They talk like woke fucks, not like action heroes in a torn war zone.

>>3808127
>>3808223
This is true, I know how players behave. Constantly giggling. One of the reason I prefer Crpg over ttrpg.

>>3807612 (OP)
There's nothing wrong with that statblock even though
>5STR lmao
You could probably take some points from WIS since Wizards get naturally high Will saves, if only to have an easier time hauling gear around, but after the first couple levels you'll probably have your STR constantly buffed anyway.

>>3807612 (OP)
>5 str
Now that's just asking for it.

>>3807612 (OP)
>5 str
>carrying a backpack
Must be full of balloons.

>>3807612 (OP)

I couldn’t play this game because of this and the black paladin.

>>3808272
you are aware there is non-woke mod for this game that switch skin colour to normal

>>3807612 (OP)
>5str
Rapeable af

>>3807612 (OP)
that whole kitsune race thing doesn't really fit anyway. they should have went with a generic beast race or something that are different animal looks and not such weeaboo cringe.

>>3808290
Not having these underground mixed beasts as playable race is a big letdown. Lazy modeler.

>>3807612 (OP)
me uwu
i have my problems with this game but very few games pander to me in this way so i am very content

>>3808290
the kitsune in wotr aren't really "weaboo" though. most you get is the diplomat lady saying she's from tian xia. asian flavoring is barely present.

>>3807612 (OP)
Her writer, who is also the head writer of the game
Once I saw that it clicked why RT's writing in general is so much better than WotR's

>>3808290
>that whole kitsune race thing doesn't really fit anyway
its such cringe weaboo fanfic it hurts to look at

>>3807840
> the companions feel like actual players, not characters in a game
worse.
They feel like someones OCs in their own version of a Disney Marvel flick.

>>3808127
>>3808224
>>3808136
>Ironically that makes the game more accurate to tabletop roots
I can tell you never played any Tabletop and maybe only watched some third-rate jobless VAs sperging out on a stream and somehow that made you think that this is indicative of what Tabletop is supposed to be like.

Its not.

>People who don't actually participate have little understanding how tabletop RPGs play out in practice.
Ironically you are talking about yourself here.

You are the cancer that is killing both RPGs and Tabletop you retarded tourist.

>>3808305
There also the fact that WotR - the Pathfinder Adventure module - was written by the same tranny that wrote the worst parts of Siege of Dragonspear and kept failing upwards due to checking the right identity politics checkboxes.

>>3808332
Amber Heard isn't a tranny she just likes to virtue signal them a lot

>>3808330
>I can tell you never played any Tabletop
I didn't, but saw people playing in uni from time to time. Never joined for a reason.

>>3808332
Planning to play EET. Should I skip sod? Some mod authors claim it's decent as a campaign.

>>3808332
No, it wasn't, she (yes, she, a biological woman not a tranny) only wrote the first book

>>3808340
Wotr ttrpg campaign is much worse than the vidya implementation

>>3808339
Siege of Dragonspear's content, which was made by experienced BG modders, is pretty good. It's the writing that's absolutely dogshit.

>>3808371
The modders made the content for beamdog? Writing is certainly bad, no question. Is the bbeg in sod at least somewhat fun?

>>3808339
>Should I skip sod?
Yes.

>>3808337
>>3808340
> a biological woman
Ive seen the pics and I doubt that very much.

>>3808337
Is this a bait or what

>>3808339
>Should I skip sod? Some mod authors claim it's decent as a campaign.
Depends.
While it has some decent battles here and there most of it just throwing hordes at you.

To this day certain encounters can bug out (that Shadow guy in the Temple of Bhaal, many parts of the Crusader camp etc, the Endboss battle)

Writing-wise it depends how much tolerance you have for bad writing because you have constantly the authors politics shine through in the writing of SoD and eventually it gets tiresome.
The constant memberberry-shit also gets old fast.

All in all I found SoDs writing had many of the same problems as BG3 but to a much worse degree.

>>3808455
A nice touch I always liked was that the unused firebat hero in the campaign editor was called Guy Montag.

>>3808469
he was my fav guy, next to protoss raptor

>>3807616
People keep saying this, but this isn't really Nenio at all. She's not quirky and weird. She's uncomfortably autistic and borderline retarded and the world reacts to and treats her with that lens. She's not glomping anyone or gigglesqueeing. She's a kind of retard that would test a deadly poison by using it on herself and hoping some passing stranger would revive her, which makes sense giving that she's essentially an information-collecting robot that progressively gained some sapience over time

>>3808460
>the authors politics shine through in the writing of SoD and eventually it gets tiresome.
That's filthy. Say, how long is it? 5 to 7 h can be done within 2 or 3 days of play.
>>3808476
She's not organic?

>>3808476
>She's not quirky and weird
Yes, she is, her not doing it on purpose doesn't change that.

>>3808493
biorobot

>>3808501
That's a thing in Pf? I see.

>>3808501
I did her whole questline and did that whole dungeon (one of the worst of all time) and I think I blocked all that out due to how insanely stupid it is

>>3808523
She's not artificial per se, she's a former cultist of a demon lord who got her mind wiped and was turned into an information-collecting drone that eventually deleted the knowledge of her origins and developed something of a new personality.

That would be a pretty cool character concept if it wasn't all revealed in one of the worst optional dungeons of all time, and hardly hinted at in the main playthrough.

>>3808523
btw that other anon is spoiling you but trust me it's okay to miss out on that shit quest
do NOT do nenio's quest
there is nothing for you there
look up a video of someone finishing the final fight or something

>>3808538
I see. There was an option to not recruit her and I used it. No one right in her mind would take such a lunatic with him. Unfortunately role-playing isn't encouraged in... Well rpgs.

>>3808551
Is the final fight interesting or rather what comes after?

>>3808327
So like a significant portion of player characters?

>>3808645
>players do it, so it's fine if hack writers do it!
Can we quit this brain-dead argument?

If I'm alone in the forest and I'm screaming obscenities, it's fun. If I'm alone in the forest and the trees are screaming obscenities, it's concerning. There are certain things that are acceptable for players to do, but which are less acceptable when presented to players.

>>3808645
See >>3808330

>>3808674
>There are certain things that are acceptable for players to do, but which are less acceptable when presented to players.
Apparently such trifling prifanites have to be spelled out.

>>3808330
Oh by all means continue spouting some "no true scotsman" shit. Games are what they are depending on the group, your experiences are not universal, should not be universal, and thankfully will never be.
Anyone, on any side of this retarded argument, who insists there is a right and wrong way to experience a hobby explicitly about hanging out with friends and indulging in a bit of imagination-fueled roleplay needs to hang themselves pronto.
No matter how much you seethe at 'cringe' in the hobby, the retarded VAs sperging out on a stream and doing voices that put their entire professional success in question are exactly as valid as your group.

>>3808332
WOTR adventure path has 7 different writers. Pathfinder APs are usually segmented into 6 parts, and each one has a different writer because all the parts are quite beefy, and they release them on tight schedule, which would be difficult to handle for a single person.

>>3809148
Yes, but let's not pretend this isn't done under a consistency overseer.

>>3808720
>Oh by all means continue spouting some "no true scotsman" shit. Games are what they are depending on the group, your experiences are not universal, should not be universal, and thankfully will never be.
Tourist got butthurt about being called a Tourist.

>Anyone, on any side of this retarded argument, who insists there is a right and wrong way to experience a hobby explicitly about hanging out with friends and indulging in a bit of imagination-fueled roleplay needs to hang themselves pronto.
Thats right.
There is no right way to do things which is why you should learn to breathe through your asshole so you can show everyone how unique and creative you are.

>No matter how much you seethe at 'cringe' in the hobby, the retarded VAs sperging out on a stream and doing voices that put their entire professional success in question are exactly as valid as your group.
>valid
Hi leftypol.

>>3807612 (OP)
>makes OP seethe
>does the pepe pose

>>3809481
>Still no pajeet characters in video games
Kek, one can wonder why

>>3809150
It's done poorly. No one talented enough writes fantasy for little money.

>>3808290
There's nothing even weaboo about it, it's just a fox furry.

>>3807612 (OP)
>>3809481
lol, that portrait
>thingken of "sour" grapes

>>3807612 (OP)
The only real problem with her quest is how it's basically just unlinked puzzles with a massive set of puzzles at the end. Had they split it in get two masks during act 3>explore first half of Enigma>get two masks during act 5>explore second half of Enigma, it'd have worked far better than what we got.

>>3810651
I dislike that all quests nowadays are independent of each other, instead of being intertwined and having multiple outcomes.

>>3808720
True
>>3809178
Seething faggot.

>>3808718
>Apparently such trifling prifanites have to be spelled out.
>prifanites
>be try-hard
>try to sound more intellectual because you are insecure
>fail because the words you've used are outside of your usual vocabulary

ooooof.
The amount of secondhand embarrassment I feel after reading that reply is unreal.

>>3810725
Sounds like you're coping.

>>3810784
It's auto correct you poor faggot
See>>3810725

>>3810785
>>3810815
This is why nobody wants to play with you

>3810817
This is the best you cane up with? Not even worth a lmao

>>3810842
Who are you quoting...?

>3810964
>Who are you quoting...?
... or whom (esl moment, perhaps?)

>>3812031
...whost've* esl retard you dont even have C1

>>3812031
>>3812033
**whom'st've

>Go out of the dungeon
>Demon stacks sits on my capital where I've put my trash NPC's
>Have to sit through 15 fights where they kill all my units
>Get a notification that they've started a siege
Is it just me or is it a little bit silly that they are able to attack my units sitting in forts without taking the fort?

>3812033
>..whost've
Whoo(m)psi*

>>3809178
And not a single legitimate point in the entire post, just two insults and a non-argument bordering on a strawman.

>>3812047
Who are you quoting mate?

>>3812031
>>3812033
>>3812033
>>3812042
Nenio approves

>>3808330
>>3808720
I played with lots of different people and honest to God I don't think I've ever had a session that wasn't exactly like that "Ogre-Slaying Knife" sketch

>>3809178
>There is no right way to do things which is why you should learn to breathe through your asshole so you can show everyone how unique and creative you are.
>The core of leftoid philosophy
Really describes a lot of the decline of TT, movies, games, novels, even if we remove all the white guilt motivated woke cuckery from the equation.

>>3812238
Maybe if you go full retard with false equivalence.

>>3809178
Based. "muh subjectivity" people needs to be hanged drawn and quartered

>>3807612 (OP)
eh, who cares only the rich boy and the gnome were good companions anyway

>>3813685
>not the serial killer

>>3813686
she wasn't helpful when she was fucking my soldiers to death

>>3813686
>not one of the worst ones
Yeah

Can a Bard be built for a finesse weapon and an CHA to AC so I could get a reasonably dodgy DEX melee frontliner?

>>3808330
It really depends on who you're playing with. If you're at the table with some grogs or with some good friends who are committed then there's no issue. But if you're playing online or with randoms at a local club then 90% of the time it's going to be a quirk chungus gigglefest.

>>3813938
Is online ttrpg a thing already? I still dislike all systems I found online
The old ones have charm, but are highly impractical.
I'mmamam asking about online play for a reason. If it's a thing, how come people still use cards or dices, instead of more sophisticated random variables? If a machine does the math, you can have better results than a 1:20 chance or whatever.