Thoughts on this series? How underrated is it?

>>3809003 (OP)
>he doesn't know

>>3809003 (OP)
Play IV

Phantasy Star II has the best setting. PSI and IV are probably the most palatable for people. You get more out of PSIV if you play the games before it.

IV is my favorite JRPG of all time. The setting, story, characters, music, gameplay... it's phenomenal and for its time it was leagues ahead.

They remade the first three games on PS2 and stopped. I'm really irritated and hope somewhere along the line they bring us Phantasy Star IV remastered or remade with added content, bonus dungeons, super bosses, NG+, everything.

I fucking love IV. II is also great. I never played I and I never finished III. III was made by different devs and they experimented with a lineage system so while it's neat it didn't sit well with everybody. It was okay.

II is notorious for being rife with crazy long dungeons that will tax your patience. The PS2 remake has a ton of quality of life added to it, even if the graphics are a little meh.

I love the series. I actually plan to go back to play I and finish III at some point.

I would say start with IV and then see if you want to do the remakes or the original.

IV is a good game but I just don't find it as compelling as I
I guess the issue is IV is a little too handholdy, telling you where to go and what to do next, whereas I is about exploring and finding things
(II & III are meh, for different reasons)

>>3809003 (OP)
I love Phantasy Star 4. Man am I still mad that the fan sequel that was being developed back on the old "Cвeтлaя Зoнa" is lost to time, i desperately wanted more of the games at one point..

>>3809003 (OP)
PS2 is one of my favorite games, and I just played through PS4 for the first time in... 30? years. I actually found it a little underwhelming. There's a lot more dithering used in the graphics than in the previous games and it makes for an uglier look IMO. It also goes by pretty quickly, and it feels like you often barely use the equipment you just bought before arriving at the next town and upgrading everything again. The dungeons also feel uninspired, and they're simpler and more straightforward than PS2's.
Overall for me it ranks alongside PS3, below PS2. I haven't played PS1 enough to compare.

>>3809293
Remake whole of the Argol story going back to the unification wars.

>>3809003 (OP)
Unless you're a boomer, you're not going to enjoy these games my guy

Which version do I play?

>>3809003 (OP)
I wanted to play the second one but they kill the cute girl companion so I lost interest.

>>3809640
There are other cute girls that join. And even cute save girls.

>>3809293
What fan sequel is this? That translates to Light Zone.

>>3809638
You can try the original first, start with Phantasy Star II, as that one has a great PS2 remake with quality of life. If you can tolerate the original then good for you, you have grit and gumption, something twas necessary back in the ancient time that is the 90s and you had to endure this sort of thing in RPGs.

If it's too hard or dated you will enjoy the PS2 remake as long as you can deal with the graphics.

I played the original and beat it when I was a kid. I replayed it, and the remake. I like the remake. It adds things that make the gameplay smoother and more entertaining, but there is that challenge to the original that you feel proud to have earned. Depends on what you want out of the gaming experience.

>>3809649
"Cвeтлaя зoнa. Aкaдeмия PПГ Mэйкep." ("The Light Zone. The RPG maker academy") is a russian website dedicated to, well, teaching RPG Maker and providing resources and plugins for game creation. It still exists today I think, but it's a far cry from what it was back in 2008-2010.

The fangame was called "Phantasy Star IV: After" (or something like that) and took place 5 years after the events of the original on Motavia. You played as a duo of 2 girl hunters investigating the reanimation of the Zema Factory, meet with the son of the Piata Academy director, are sent on a quest by Demi to investigate recent disturbances. Then the demo ends with you bumping into the little girl possesed either by Dark Force or Zio's spirit.

>>3809674
Holy crap that sounds really cool. I hope somebody can dig up the demo at least, I want to see it.

>>3809912
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I found it, lol. It even got translated to English. All these years I though it was dead!

>https://anntenna.itch.io/ps20

>>3809942
Buy a banner

>>3809953
Why?

>>3809953
>https://anntenna.itch.io/ps20
Shut up faggot, I was asking about it and clearly showed interest so it's helpful that he went to find it and linked to it.

>>3809955
He thinks you're selling/shilling your own work. Even if you're pimping it that's fine because it's a fan project and I was interested. Thanks.

>>3809942

Would that dude be willing to share the assets? I didn't realize it was done with RPGM too, I overlooked you saying that. I would absolutely follow his lead and use it if I had those assets. Making a fan game would be a good start for me, especially for my favorite game of all time. thanks so much for posting this. Any idea if the assets are available? I didn't know you could get RPG Maker to look exactly like PSIV. :)

>>3809955
>>3810022
There's some bitches on 4chan that'll do that anytime you share any unknown fan game or indie game. Wouldn't take it seriously (or anything on this site seriously).

>>3810026
>Any idea if the assets are available?

Hm. Antenna used to be one of the curators of "Cвeтлaя Зoнa" and shared many assets back in the day, but "Lokator" guys are not as eager to share their stuff.

>I didn't know you could get RPG Maker to look exactly like PSIV. :)
There are sprite rip websites for the original game. Like this one:
>https://www.spriters-resource.com/sega_genesis_32x/ps4/
... where you can get all the necessary sprites. You'll have to align them into grids and tilesets yourself though for editing.

>>3809645
>save girls.
Just want to save the purple haired one with the nice ass

>>3810035
>https://www.spriters-resource.com/sega_genesis_32x/ps4/

That's fantastic. Mind dumping any other good links you have that are in the same vein, regarding RPG Maker and Phantasy Star? :]

>>3809640
>>3809645
>>3810051

Play the PS2 remake then! If you do NG+ then follow a specific route (look up a guide or you'll likely miss out on what to do) you can actually save Nei from the fight!!

I love things like this and it's something I would do for Alys if I remastered Phantasy Star IV, along with allowing you to take any party member you wanted to face the final boss.

>>3810120
>something I would do for Alys if I remastered Phantasy Star IV
Good way to ruin the gravitas of the narrative.

>>3810120
Even further do something like have in-game rewards or unlocks for beating the final boss with a certain combination of characters or restrictions, which then unlocks further extra dungeons or a superboss. Seriously, I would dial it to fucking 11 and go all in on a remake/remaster if I had support and fans. They could make money off my autism if they hired me to do a Phantasy Star IV remake project officially.

>>3810122
It would be something like near end game when Chaz becomes a full chad completing some dungeon or fighting a boss to get something that allows for her to be brought back for use in the final battle and added content. Something along those lines.

>>3810124
No. Sacrifices are retroactively ruined this way because any subsequent playthrough you'll have full awareness that it's not really a loss. That's the problem with FFIV. Sometimes characters should die in a story.

>>3810125
I disagree when it means you can use a character like I would have implemented. Also some people like/want to save characters, though I do agree with you the "Game of Thrones" method of killing off main characters is also good because it builds tension and is ominous. In the case of Alys though it would be how they allowed you to revive Nei if you did NG+ and followed a set of steps. You get the original impact for the canon story but fans can then replay, save the girl, and get some extra party combinations through the new character.

>>3810129
Hey, you can write your fanfiction however you want, but you won't elevate anything that way, just reduce it to self-indulgence. Guess that's a problem with fanfiction in general and why so much of it is really bad.

>>3810133
I haven't read fanfiction so I wouldn't know.

>>3810143
It's what you are talking about making.

>>3809003 (OP)
yeah it was pretty cool

>>3809003 (OP)
3 slop games in a row and then IV is pretty damn good. II has good music, but that's where all of the positives end. It's a really lousy series.

>>3810122
Sorry but if you can only give "gravitas" to the narrative by killing the cute girl you are a certified kusoge.

>>3810171
For me it's Alys

>>3810185
It'd be the same if she was a man, she's a mentor figure, incel.

>>3810169
...Yes, sure, and?

>>3810222
So do do have familiarity with fanfiction, you're talking about making it. Reading it yourself is unnecessary. Following yet?

>>3810238
I know what fanfiction IS I said I wouldn't know regarding your opinion that so much of it is really bad. Following yet?

>>3810337
But you do recognize that your desires to reform the narrative and save a character you like are self-indulgent, even without reading any fanfiction yourself, right? Getting it?

>>3810204
Then kill a man.
They usually dont because everyone loves cute girls.

>>3810428
They do kill men off, it's just that when they do you don't remember it. Who waxed poetic over Tellah?

>>3810339
Not self-indulgent if the point is to do something I know fans in large volumes want and appreciate.

>>3810339
Also, the point I was replying to for you, which is the whole thing you missed, was that of fan-fiction not being very good most of the time. The point you're still not seeing or getting. I know you're trolling either way, but it's cool, keep replying. Bumping a good thread is best for everybody.