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Anonymous No.3822611 >>3822617 >>3822625 >>3822628 >>3822629 >>3822630 >>3822665 >>3823437 >>3823479 >>3824044 >>3824161 >>3824175 >>3824193 >>3824242
Why is the RPG genre as a whole so progressive? I can't think of a single RPG that let's the player be a ultra nationalist exterminating foreigners and enslaving their women. You're always just the woke warrior fighting for change and equality alongside a party of carefully manicured diversity.
Anonymous No.3822617 >>3824193
>>3822611 (OP)
Rogue Trader
Anonymous No.3822625
>>3822611 (OP)
>why is [media genre] so progressive
ESG dollars
Anonymous No.3822628
>>3822611 (OP)
Skyrim
Anonymous No.3822629 >>3823438
>>3822611 (OP)
>Why is the RPG genre as a whole so progressive?
As opposed to what genre of video game?

As to why idealists flock to RPGs, it's because their whole worldview is already a fantasy, so they tend towards constructions of illusion.
Anonymous No.3822630 >>3822632 >>3822634 >>3822640
>>3822611 (OP)
>I can't think of a single RPG that let's the player be a ultra nationalist exterminating foreigners and enslaving their women. You're always just the woke warrior fighting for change and equality alongside a party of carefully manicured diversity
Sucks to be a zoomzoom.
Anonymous No.3822632
>>3822630
>attempts generational divide and conquer
>doesn't list any rpgs
>hasn't actually played old rpgs
Too obvious, OP.
Anonymous No.3822634
>>3822630
>You're a hur dur zoomer hur hur ha ha ha *farts*
Very clever. And I've played several older RPG's that are sucked off like Neverwinter, Baldur's Gate, etc. They all push the same woke shit as the new stuff albeit a bit more subtly. Feel free to name something that doesn't fall into that category although I know you won't.
Anonymous No.3822640
>>3822630
...So why didnt you mention any?
The only ones I could think off are obscure russian nationalist fever dream games that try to be so masculine that it feels like a gay parody because their culture was buckbroken by close to a century of communism.
Anonymous No.3822648
How the hell should I know
Anonymous No.3822665 >>3822681 >>3823182 >>3823433 >>3824044
>>3822611 (OP)
Because rightwingers can't create art or even entertainment.
Creatives tend to be overwhelmingly left wing and you're just gonna have to deal with that little chud.
Not everyone is a sociopath sharing your deranged fantasies.
Anonymous No.3822681
>>3822665
>t. rightwinger
Anonymous No.3823182 >>3823194
>>3822665
At least we'll always have Dostoevsky.
Anonymous No.3823194 >>3823216
>>3823182
>A cheap sensationalist, clumsy and vulgar. A prophet, a claptrap journalist and a slapdash comedian. Some of his scenes are extraordinarily amusing. Nobody takes his reactionary journalism seriously.
Anonymous No.3823201 >>3823206
There was this quest in Arcanum that I always thought was really weird. There are two gangs in the slums that are fighting for control. You're told to join one side and help them beat the other. It doesn't matter who you side with; in the end, they take over and the slum remains a slum.

To get the best ending, you have to do the opposite of what the game tells you and just kill them all. Kill everyone in the slums. Then the slums become a thriving, prosperous hotel.

It seems so weird to me, the message being pushed there; the slums aren't bad because the people in it lack access to society and capital - the slums are bad because of the people themselves. In order to fix the slums, you just have to kill everyone. It's so contrary to every other messaging I've ever received about poverty and gangs in my entire life. I wonder if that was deliberate or just a consequence of thoughtless quest design.
Anonymous No.3823206
>>3823201
Well the designer is a gay dude, so his idea of utopia is gentrifying an area lmao, which yes means getting rid of the gross poors basically by any means necessary. Out of sight out of mind.
Anonymous No.3823216 >>3823220
>>3823194
>reactionary journalism
That's rich coming from Nabokov, who had an even bigger hatred of communism than Dostoevsky.
Anonymous No.3823220
>>3823216
Reactionary vis-a-vis nabby's liberalism, obviously.
Anonymous No.3823433 >>3824044
>>3822665
>25 years of derivative drivel that not even their own side cares about
>killed comicbooks
>killed the superhero genre
>um ackshually rightwingers can't create art or even entertainment
Anonymous No.3823437 >>3823440 >>3823443 >>3823444 >>3823866
>>3822611 (OP)
Right wing ideology is typically anti-intellectual, anti-arts, anti-anything that isn't emotion based reactionary thought so it is very hard for them to create art.
Anonymous No.3823438
>>3822629
the most underrated post in this whole thread
Anonymous No.3823440 >>3823441 >>3823449
>>3823437
Tolkien
Herbert
Heinlein

Nevermind that you fags still seethe about Pic related.
Anonymous No.3823441
>>3823440
Anonymous No.3823443
>>3823437
Anonymous No.3823444
>>3823437
That's right. Centrism is the best then.
Anonymous No.3823449 >>3823459 >>3823464 >>3823871 >>3824193 >>3824214
>>3823440
>Tolkien
Was a man who called himself an anarchist and who hated authority. Would be called a RINO or an outright communist nowadays.

>Herbert
Almost feels like you're trolling with this one, but rightoids aren't known for their intellect so you may actually believe Herbert was one of you despite his writings. Very likely you haven't actually read any Herbert in your life.

>Heinlein
Certainly the funniest pick of the lot. Heinlein would be considered an absolute lefty loon nowadays just by sheer measure of the kinds of topics he wrote about. Religious fundamentalists would be trying to have his books banned.

>Lovecraft
A true rightoid. Virulently racist and scared of other people. All of his fears manifested in his writings, and it's all he ever wrote.
Anonymous No.3823459 >>3823473
>>3823449
>"um ackshually none of them were rightwing"
>seethes about how Catholics are nazis
This is the funniest cope.
Every time someone says a writer who had values that were fundamentally opposed to your progressive stack you suddenly try and pretend that he was a card carrying communist.
Every.
time.

>Would be called a RINO or an outright communist nowadays.
I would like to remind that the UK was discussing whether to ban LOTR for traditionalist values a few years back.

>, but rightoids aren't known for their intellect so you may actually believe Herbert was one of you despite his writings
That right, keep regurgitating your corporate little truisms.

> Very likely you haven't actually read any Herbert in your life.
Well you definitely didn't.

> Heinlein would be considered an absolute lefty loon nowadays just by sheer measure of the kinds of topics he wrote about. Religious fundamentalists would be trying to have his books banned.
If only you actually would have read anything he wrote.
In fact, if only you could read.

>A true rightoid. Virulently racist and scared of other people. All of his fears manifested in his writings, and it's all he ever wrote.
Which is why you continue to try and fail to shit out derivative works of the things he came up with.

Because Evil cannot create anything new.
Anonymous No.3823464 >>3823473
>>3823449
>Would be called a RINO or an outright communist nowadays.
>Religious fundamentalists would be trying to have his books banned.

Didn't you guys very recently try to get Rowling cancelled which was one of your very own 3rd wave feminists over her saying that transwomen arent women?
Its just endless hilarity listening to you guys about how other people would judge rightwing writers.

This is why you lost the culture war btw.
Anonymous No.3823473 >>3823475
>>3823459
>This is the funniest cope.
t. rightoid who was screeching about pope Leo XIV just last week is now pretending "Tolkien as totally one of us heh" kek

>>3823464
>Didn't you guys very recently try to get Rowling cancelled
No? Hogwarts Legacy sold over 20 million copies. The vast majority of people, left or right, aren't bothered by JK Rowling's views.

Trans activists are mad at her. The rest of us don't give a fuck.
Anonymous No.3823475 >>3823480
>>3823473
>noooo we actually dont care about Rowling now
And this is after you guys tried to cancel people that dared to play the Wizardgame on Stream.

This is why people dont like you. You lie through year teeth, you keep accusing people of what you yourself are doing and you think the general public is too dumb to notice.
You became the very thing you raged against and you don't even have the backbone to admit it.

Even the biggest leftoid anarchists hate you.
Anonymous No.3823479 >>3823480
>>3822611 (OP)
>Why is the RPG genre as a whole so progressive?
It's like this with video games in general, not just rpgs
Anonymous No.3823480 >>3823508
>>3823475
You sound insane lol

>>3823479
Art in general*
Anonymous No.3823492
Probably for the same reason studios barely bother to include even particularly mean-spirited options/routes, let alone anything people would consider evil. Most players seem to avoid those anyway, so why bother wasting development time and funds?
Anonymous No.3823508
>>3823480
>You sound insane lol
Anonymous No.3823866
>>3823437
>emotionalism in art is... LE BAD
Yuji Sakai No.3823869
if i was a jannie i'd just move this thread to >>>/pol/ and be done with it
Anonymous No.3823871
>>3823449
Crybaby jew faggot post.
Anonymous No.3823910
RPG tend to attract a type of middle-class public who are eager to copy the social mores which, they think, are promoted by elites.
Anonymous No.3824044
>>3822611 (OP)
you sound like hillbilly scum and you need your head smashed in.

>>3822665
this
>>3823433
stop acting white you mistake wokeshits with actual liberation fellows, I actually offend woke zoomers because I will point out that too many white women are getting hired for the sake of being such.
Anonymous No.3824161 >>3824163
>>3822611 (OP)
>ultra nationalist exterminating foreigners
Play Last Defence Academy
Anonymous No.3824163 >>3824202
>>3824161
Also Shadowrun, most characters are some shade of the right.
Anonymous No.3824175
>>3822611 (OP)
Mostly, games are made with the intent of you being the good guy
Anonymous No.3824193
>>3822611 (OP)
>>3822617
Seriously this
The difference between WOTR and RT is stark.
Kind of amazing how much they had to pander to the PF LGBTQ license seeing what they're like in RT without any of the leftoid baggage.

I haven't been annoyed by a single companion so far but I'm only to Pasqal.

>>3823449
You are either functionally illiterate, or lying to yourself 420 fathoms deep in the koolaid ocean.
Now do Orson Scott Card.
Anonymous No.3824202 >>3824210
>>3824163
That doesn't seem accurate, unless you mean "most of the characters you kill"
Anonymous No.3824210 >>3824252
>>3824202
Clearly that is a (You) and how (You) played issue. I was the most racist cyborg alive.
Anonymous No.3824214 >>3824221
>>3823449
>>Tolkien
He would be anarchist but an anarchomonarchist. His ideal realm was literally what Gondor becomes under Aragorn, where the King weilds ultimate and absolute power but choses not to use it except for defence of his subjects, leaving all the villages and parishes mostly autonomous like he shows with Shire.

>>Heinlein
>communist
lol lmao, now I know you are illiterate troon. He literally was one of the hardest hardliners in the NSDAP that wanted to commit suicide because Hitler wouldn't let him genocide all Czechs and Jews.
Anonymous No.3824221
>>3824214
Plus watching a leftist try to characterize him away from his deeply held religious beliefs is humorous. Same kind of history 'rewriting' they're always trying to do which is why they're really a detriment to the actual liberal arts.
Anonymous No.3824242 >>3824253
>>3822611 (OP)

Rather than progressive i would call it involved on social politics, i mean, there are enough instances on which a player can choice to not be progressive but social issues always seem to be a thing.

I usually donΒ΄t give a fuck about it. Like in BG3 the devs put a lot of refugees but i never get involved on any of that. I donΒ΄t kill them but i wonΒ΄t save them either. If they die they die. Not my problem.

Same with all the pro/anti synth stuff on Fallout 4. I had no reason whatsoever to give a shit, just woke up and looking for my son.

And then there is ME on which politics are more of a job thing. You are the commander, you need to recruit, just promise things for them all to fight together and let whoever comes after figure the rest. Sure, you could play a "humans good, aliens bad" Shepard but that seems like a poor strategy.
Anonymous No.3824252
>>3824210
If you only count Returns that might be possible, but both Dragonfall and Hong Kong basically force you not to be racist outside of a few random dialogue options.
You raid a Humanis compound in one, and your entire team save Racter is metas in second and you can literally never say anything even dubious about their type.
Anonymous No.3824253
>>3824242
Being turbo-racist in ME can be pretty funny, but yes, as far as what quickly becomes a matter of galactic security is concerned, it runs counter to practicality.
Well, letting it influence your overall decisions is. You can still be an asshole to many of the aliens and they have to deal with it.