Thread 3825628

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Anything worth getting?

>>3825628 (OP)
The Owlcat trio, Pillars Of Eternity 1 & 2 and NWN mostly. I don't recommend Stone Shard. Not because it wouldn't be a great game, but because it will never be completed. The developer is a drug addict in Eastern Europe who was caught buying drugs with the money he got from Early Access sales. Which is why there was no progress made on the game for several years there: he was in fucking prison. For being a druggie loser instead of working on the game.

Lifeprotip, kids, never fucking EVER spend money on Early Access. Ever. People used to get paid to playtest video games. It was a job that you got paid to do. And in those days, when video games were released, they were relatively bugfree and fully featured. And only 20 dollars.

>>3825646
>Shard
Looks good, despite the atrocious rpg maker sprites.
What's with dark envoy, op? Banquet of fools? Swordhaven?

>>3825646
>being a druggie loser
That true? Any news article or the like?

>>3825646
>The developer is a drug addict in Eastern Europe who was caught buying drugs with the money he got from Early Access sales
I've heard of some scumbag EA opportunism, but this really takes the cake.

Any of you tried Tower of Time? The prospect of real time with slo-mo looks intriguing, but how well does it actually hold up?

>>3825646
>buying drugs with the money he got from Early Access sales
You mean just buying drugs? That's his money from his job, he can spend it how he wants. What drugs? Knowing slavtards and the huge stick they have up their asses while drinking themselves to death, it's probably just weed.

>>3825647
Have you ever seen an RPG sprite, anon?

>>3825648
It was drama in his Discord server while it was happening two or three years ago. He's made a few updates after he got out of prison, but it's still slow as fuck and nothing really meaningful has improved about the game. It's been years and years since he started on it.

>>3825646
>The developer is a drug addict in Eastern Europe who was caught buying drugs with the money he got from Early Access sales.
Heart warming that indie RPGs can be used to fund drug binges. I just assumed all these devs were nerds.

>>3825661
No, it was meth and heroin. And he "didn't have time" to work on the game because he was passed out or working odd jobs... to earn rent money... because he spent all the Early Access money on drugs. The point of Early Access is so the dev can stay home and work on the game instead of flipping burgers. You work eight hours flipping burgers, that's time you can't spend writing code or painting sprites or whatever. That's the entire point of Early Access, anon. This is not complicated.

>>3825667
Indie RPGs can fund a lot of shit. Until the playerbase finds out that their money isn't being used to develop the game.

>>3825628 (OP)
it's just the shit. some of the more overlooked titles

>thaumaturge
>gamedec
>alaloth
>seven

>>3825646
>And in those days, when video games were released, they were relatively bugfree
No, they weren't

>>3825669
Meth and heroin is an odd combination.
The point of early access is to make money selling an unfinished game. You're over complicating this and moralizing.

>>3825666
Damn. Tbqh he could've worked in prison. It's eu, so a laptop without Internet access should be allowed. These countries usually allow for leave, too.

>>3825695
He could have worked on it out of prison, too, anon. He's a human. The game is not the sole reason he exists. It's not the only thing going on his life. Obviously he cares a lot more about meth and heroin.

What happens with old abandoned indie games with these sales where no one touches it except to withdraw the $60 a year they get from steam deposited to some bank account? I assume Steam sends some email to their account about these sales they could sign up for that no one ever reads. I'm thinking of Dead State.

>>3825720
What do you mean what happens? Nothing.

>>3825721
I was thinking they just sit there with no discounts but isthereanydeal says dead state has had several 75% discounts this year so I assume there is some sale autopilot or something

>>3825660
An anon made a thread here and posted his adventures a while back, you should find it on the archives.

>>3825719
>Obviously he cares a lot more about meth and heroin.
>The game is not the sole reason he exists
I'm so sorry. I expected him to owe people that put their trust into him. It's my fault, really.

>>3825724
Probably the yearly sales let you opt in automatically. Mitsoda probably doesn't want to think about Dead State and both DoubleBear and his marriage's failure.

>>3825646
I'm simply going to pirate it

>>3825730
Yeah, you shouldn't give complete strangers money for unfinished work.

>>3825719
>>3825695
>easteen europ, in priosn
>could work on laptop on his game
You two have no idea what youre talking about

>>3825734
The core concept of pre financing a project to cut the banks is awesome. The lack of all security measures in this concept is concerning and frankly, laughable. He should get punished for this behaviour.

>>3825735
They don't allow devices? Pretty sure even Greece had to modern ize their prisons to get eu funding.

>>3825727
Much obliged.

>>3825738
The punishment for an abuse of trust is that no one will trust you. The problem is that there's an endless supply of suckers and word of mouth about reputation doesn't always travel forever. I'm reminded of how Project Zomboid was seen as a total scam when they took forever to do anything and then posted about how they had all their work that they didn't back up stolen on a laptop. Now people think that the dev is trustworthy, though I heard the latest update and the time it took soured some new people. I just don't engage with early access ever and never have.

I like stoneshard, but it updates once a year, if you're lucky.

>>3825646
Here I was expected the life protip to be don’t do drugs
>t. knower

>>3825730
Sweetheart. The entire reason we're having this conversation is because I explicitly warned people that he's a druggie grifter stealing money from people who thought they were funding the development of a game he has no intention of completing.
So.
Ya, you were warned not to be stupid enough to "put your trust" in him. Trusting him doesn't mean he's gonna do something. That's why it's trust. That's why it's Early Access: because he's not legally bound to do fucking anything for you. That's literally the whole point of Early Access. And I'm warning you to not be a sucker about it.
It is indeed your fault for being a naive dumbass funding druggies in Eastern Europe. You can't just stomp your little feet and expect that he's gonna change because you feel entitled to something. The reality is that he's a drug-addicted loser. That's just fact. That's the reality. Fucking deal with it.
DUMB fuck.

>>3825738
What if he could be ... put in prison...?

>>3825802
If "don't do drugs, kids!" worked, no one would be doin' drugs. The lifeprotip is to be realistic and deal with reality as it is, not with pithy slogans that were the subject of intense mockery in the nineteen-fucking-nineties.

>>3825678
No one's moralizing. Go get you some heroin if you want, anon. Stop panicking. We don't know you.

>>3825819
The moralizing is about some obligation to a customer beyond the at sale product, not the drugs. Don't buy unfinished games, dumbass.

>>3825841
I'm the one who's been warning people to not buy unfinished games. And you apparently agree with that.

...

While chiding me about moralizing? For saying the thing you literally just plagiarized from me?

Dumbass, indeed.

>>3825739
I used to work in one. Even guards cant haveone

>>3825739
>ummm devices???
Do you not understand what prison is, zoomie?

>>3825862
Plagiarized, really? I'm the first person to use the word unfinished in this thread.

Dumbass can't stop preaching.

>>3825877
He thinks prison is like being grounded, but you don't even get to keep your vape pen. So obviously you have to make do with just your phone for dopamine.
>>3825897
Kill yourself. Insufferable.

>>3825669
Gosh, imagine what an RPG could be made solely on meth binges
some of the greatest works, books, plays and political movements were made on alcohol, but they didn't have the good stuff back then

>>3825672
>>thaumaturge
SOLID game, memorable, combat is hard if you pick the hardest difficulty
had witcher vibes

>>3825646
Fucking Stone Shard. I remember buying that, playing a bit then stopping because they were talking about adding custom character creation soon. Every year or so I look up to see if they've added it yet, mostly as an inside joke to myself, and they still haven't.
There's still people defending them not doing it yet every time I check though
I'd probably be mad, but iirc it was pretty cheap. Maybe on sale or something idk

>>3825646
I buy early access games all the time, all you have to do is buy games that are already fun experiences in themselves. You don't buy EA and hope the game gets good, you buy it when it already counts as a good game in your eyes, so that the worst case scenario is you get a good game and the best case scenario is the game gets better and you got it for cheaper than everyone else. I haven't even touched Caves of Qud since it's 1.0 release, because I had my fun with it way before that.

>>3825745
I think I'm the anon that other anon is referring to
found the thread via a leftover image https://arch.b4k.dev/vrpg/thread/3326313/#q3361905
but I'm not sure it's worth reading through it
better read the tldr; version bellow
> surprisingly good main story and side stories, I'm talking better than some AAA games
> fun exploration, especially in early levels
> progression/loot system is not ocean-deep but does the job and is intuitive
> it's fun to do battles, they are pretty dynamic and enemies get new interesting abilities/gimmicks as you progress
> personally I really enjoyed the looks and the art style of the game
> level/game length is just right and doesn't overstay its welcome
personally for me it's easily an 8/10 and worth every penny

uhh is it just me or like a lot of these games not really isometric?

>>3826889
isometic just means topdown for most people.

WotR DLC worth getting or is the game fine without it?

>>3826766
I like how you also have to give up some Salutors if you want the best ending.

>>3826889
please don't start

>>3826947
Most of it wasn't very good. If you really wanted the shifter class, maybe the Last Sarkorians is. I've never touched a Dance of Masks, so no idea if that one is