Thread 3830201

Tell me your thoughts on the Dragon Age series. Which is your favorite, which is your least favorite, and are you interested in further sequels?

>>3830201 (OP)
I have only played Origins, and I think it's one of the best RPGs ever made.

>>3830201 (OP)
>favorite
origins
>least favorite
everything after origins
>are you interested in further sequels?
no

>>3830201 (OP)
Played Origins and 2. this is what I think:

Wasted Potential (thanks, EA!)

Now...
>Which is your favorite
Origins by a mile.
>which is your least favorite
2 killed all the enthusiasm I had, but I dread what comes after that one.
>are you interested in further sequels?
Definitely. NOT!

>>3830201 (OP)
Origins is ok. Golems of Amgarrak is a very good module when you play it with a fresh character.

>>3830201 (OP)
>Favorite
Origins
decent story and presentation, extra content was also pretty good, expansion catered more towards build autism
>least favorite
Inquisition (never played Veilguard), the most boring RPG I played, melee combat sucked, A.I was close to Avowed level of retarded, every rpg and class aspect was gutted, none of the characters were memorable
>sequels
no, their only hope is full retcon or something set in the distant past
moving from away from Gray Wardens was also a mistake

I would like a reboot but only and only with a competent studio. Starting with Origins remake and then completely new games going after.

>>3830667
Larian to the rescue

>>3830668
If they made it turnbased and got rid of the MMO inspirations, it might finally be a good game.

>>3830201 (OP)
>favorite
Origins
>least favorite
Inquisition but I don't care for any of the sequels, it just happens to be the worst of them
>are you interested in further sequels?
no, one decent game/setting being progressively tarnished by its successors isn't something I want and it's gone on long enough as is

Origins is babbys first crpg and I am babby. There will always be a special place in my heart for it.
I only played the demo for DA2 and I don't think any sequel of the series will ever interest me.

>>3830201 (OP)
Origins is a classic. 2 is alright, I despised it when it first released but it's won me over in some ways over the years. Inquisition is a mess but there are some vaguely enjoyable things about it. I haven't played Veilgard since I know I wouldn't enjoy it.

>3830201
>favorite
Inquisition. yes really. as an explorefag its incredibly rich.
>least favorite
Dragon Age 2, only because it was a rushjob and they copy pasted a ton of it, such a shame.
>are you interested in further sequels?
hell yes, Veilguard was highly polished but was created by mentally ill deviants with an agenda, it can still be salvaged.

>>3830201 (OP)
Origins is the only game in the series worth playing.

>THe
>Dragon
>Age
>Setting
Thedas.

>>3830201 (OP)
Its dead.
So it doesn't matter.
None of it matters.

The hill I will die on is that Inquisition is a fun and extremely cool entry in the series IF and ONLY if you use two specific mods.

The mods are:
>No time limit on war table
>Increased Power
The worst part of DAI was the "Single Player MMO" aspect where you had to do mundane side content to unlock more main quests. It made the game a chore at time, as did the long wait times for random plot content on the war table. These two mods fix both; you can do the main quests anytime, side content is all optional, and progression feels much better.
>but is DAI even good?
I think it's good, yeah. Not great, but if you love the setting then it's absolutely fantastic for expanding it.
>Combat
Slightly better version of DA2's combat. Not the best part of the game, but you can still have fun.
>Story
Story is good. Rreally strong opening chapter, lots of twists, some spooky stuff, it progresses well. The stakes gradually rising along with your standing in the world is very satisfying.
>Skyhold
A customiseable home base is a great addition to any open world RPG, I've always thought. Fixing up and expanding Skyhold is cool, as is running your movement.
>World
The open world is absolutely fantastic. It's beautiful, expansive, and stuffed to burst with things to do; puzzles to discover cool gear, historic landmarks to find, resources to claim, and so on. Customisation in the game is tied to the use of resources; go kill dragons for dragon skin, etc.

When you aren't railroaded into grinding by the retarded power/time system, the single player mmo aspect evaporates and you can just have fun exploring. If you liked DA2, you'll like Inquisition.

>>3830668
Larian made BG3 and so I will never buy anything from those Satanists again.

>>3831859
The gameplay itself is the MMO part, and that really brings the game down. The arcadey mini bosses are repetitive (mmo) and not very good. A far cry from the first game.

>>3830201 (OP)
For me it's like
DA2 > VG >DA1 > DAI

>are you interested in further sequels?
Yes?

>>3830201 (OP)
>favorite
Origins

>least favorite
That I played? Inquisition was pretty terrible. But Inquisition was only my least favorite because I refused to touch Veilguard.

>further sequels?
Not as long as EA is at the helm. They've made it clear that they think RPG fans are idiots who'll buy anything with a Bioware tag, and so they can freely pander to woman and trannies to try and expand their audience.

>>3830201 (OP)
>thoughts on the Dragon Age series
I love the worldbuilding, lore, story, and characters, at least in the two good games in the series. Origins is one of my all time favorite games and I actually think it's better than KOTOR 1. Dragon Age 2 sucks donkey balls. I actually like Inquisition but the combat isn't as good as Oriigns. I didn't play Veilguard.
>favorite
Origins
>least favorite
Dragon Age II.
>are you interested in further sequels
You would need EA to sell Dragon Age off to Obsidian and for Obsidian to convince David Gaider to come back on as lead writer for me to be interested. In other words, no.

>>3834000
>Obsidian
They've been compromised themselves for some time now too.

>>3834002
This probably the dumbest costume design I've seen in a while. Nigga in the front has scissors strapped to him, pointing into his thigh, and the weird mulatto thing in the back has targets on its knees.

>like 5 posts saying "I play the other games but not Veilguard"
Was it this trailer that did it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4F3N4Lxw4_Y
I remember watching it live as a loyal fan reading/watching all the extended media slop for 10 years patiently waiting. Couldn't believe what I was seeing

>>3830201 (OP)
Origins good

Everything else bad

Some say 2 not that bad but don't realize it nostalgia.

>>3834112
C*lifornia was a mistake

>>3834666
I played 2 and Origins back to back and I enjoyed both of them, Satan.

>>3830201 (OP)
mages are 100% right, we reestablish the tevinter empire of old, enslave the elves and the qunari, throw the female priesthood and female divine out of the window and embrace the glory of being a badass global empire

>>3830201 (OP)
>favorite
Origins
>least favorite
DA2 but I never played Veilguard
>are you interested in further sequels
Hell no, I'm glad this series is finally dead. 3 installments too late but better late than never.

>>3830201 (OP)
>4 games
>only the first game+exp was good because EA fucked with the sequels every single time
EA is the worst fucking thing to ever happen to the game industry. The amount of series and companies they have fucked over and buried is a mass grave at this point.

>>3834002
The companion designs are actually pretty good for all being boring humans. It's a mark of how insanely dogshit people's tastes are on this board if these are "bad".
Distinct designs, most of them are freaks or distinct in some other way like artificial limbs, fucked up arm and shit.
If I play a fantasy RPG I want to play with dwarves, golems and shit as party members.
If I play a sci-fi RPG I want to play with as sci-fi companions as possible. In Mass Effect I used shit like Wrex, Garrus, Legion, Javik and shit. Not Ashley or Miranda like most boring fucks on this board would roll with.

>>3830201 (OP)
>favorite
the good one
>least favorite
the last one (relevant no matter the year this would have been posted)
>sequels
Fuck no
If I had the IP I would remake DAO, fix some things and make it look graphically and artistically better because it's really ugly.
Then I would make a Calling hack n slash sequel with our previous character ready to die and uncover the secrets of the Darkspawns buried in the Deep Roads.

>>3830201 (OP)
Typical Jewish story telling.

Hype everything up by implying some deeper lore, then deliver the same old tiresome Hollywood style cliches in the sequal which just disappoints everyone equally, then take THAT and trash it all in the third sequal with dumber bullshit then before which baffles everyone who didn't even care about the story in a bad way.

Recently re-installed DAO after not touching it for a few years.
I spent forever dealing with a bug where the game would always crash first after the first cutscene which I finally figured out was due to a specific graphic config.
I remember the last time I played I got filtered by the quest where you defend Redcliffe against undead. I'll see if I can get through the whole game this time.

When people talk about Origins do they include Awakening as well?

>>3830201 (OP)
Origin and Dragon age 2 is peak

>>3836505
I'd include all the expansions/modules as one complete work, yeah. Golems of Amgarrak for me by the way, great design on that one.

What is your favorite origin anon? For me, it's the city elf. That was kino

>>3830201 (OP)
Played the first one for 40 minutes, couldn't continue, the boredom almost killed me.

>>3830667
I can't believe this retarded shit is what passes for an opinion nowadays

>>3835669
>and shit

>>3836628
I understand that you have no social life and probably a schizo, but you can't just randomly chimp out without at least elaborating.

>>3830201 (OP)
I really liked Origins, I disliked 2, but was forgiving about it because I realized it was sabataged by massive corporate fuckery. Everyone said/says Inquisition is good, but it's MMO bullshit with really, really fucking weak writing and lore, in my opinion. That's where the series died, but apparently it's still playable. And now Veilguard is so horribly fucking shit that I unironically just think the series is over now and needs an outright reboot if it continues at all.

>>3831859
I never had issue with power or the time limits. I just fucked around as always and had ample power/influence.

It probably sucks if you want to proceed quickly through on later replays but i tend to do one thorough playthrough that takes a lot of time and I leave the game and return between work so that handles the operation timers on its own.

I like the story and the characters. Didn't play Origins yet because I only got to it due to it ebing free on Epic, but this game clearly can stand on its own.

>>3831859
Thanks for the two mod reccs, Inquisition is edging ever closer to being played in my backlog, already got Oranges and II done a few years back.

>>3836628
You need to be at least 18 years old to post on this board.

>>3836628
Remakecucks are deranged, man. They just want to play the same games over and over for their entire lives. Really sad shit.

>>3830201 (OP)

>Favorite

Origins. Full stop.

I´d only care for a sequel if they a) returned it to it´s RTwP origins or did a 180 on the action oriented combat and went turn based and b) went back to the original tone and aesthetic. I feel the dark fantasy aspects got diluted with each entry. I would also require real RPG mechanics with actions and dialogues with actual consequence on the level of BG3 at the very least.

I feel sword and sorcery in general has become to comfortable and mild in the bad sense. You really can´t sell a world being trying and grueling if everyone is more afraid of hurting other people´s feelings than of giant dragons. A dark world is meant to be that, dark. It´s not just about the monsters, it´s about the dark aspects of human nature.

>>3837226
Pretty much, that's why I didn't elaborate, it should be evident to anyone with an IQ above steamed carrot. Remakes, reboots, remasters. Fucking braindead. If something stands the test of time, by definition it doesn't need any of that. And its value is a certain experience, if you replay it 50 times you're just wasting your fucking life. It might also be a zoomshit symptom of living through times where all media you've been exposed to is dogshit.

I'm at castle redcliffe right now.
My biggest gripes about combat are the attacks like the ogre grab or dog pin where the enemy just holds you down and damages your character till you die. Are you just supposed to stun them?
Also should I let Jowan (the mage in the castle redcliffe basement) out of his cell? I think he's telling the truth about not being behind the undead but him insisting he not follow me was really suspicious.

I played 1 and 2. There were not enough dragons.

>>3838055
>Are you just supposed to stun them?
Yes. The game doesn't teach you about it as well as it could, but that's why you should try and keep at least one talent that does a guaranteed stun/stagger on each character. I think you're supposed to learn this during the first boss fight with the ogre, but the fight is easy enough to beat without it. Grab attacks aren't as bad as they first look at least, in particular you'll notice Alistair start to survive them as he levels up and gets better armour.
>spoiler
It's not a big deal in the grand scheme of things, but if you're unsure, probably best to leave him where he is, he's not going anywhere.

>>3838055
>Are you just supposed to stun them?
Use cone of cold.
>Jowan
He is shady but he won't screw you over. Fun fact, he is one of the key characters from another origin, specifically circle mage. During your travels, you will find more of them from different backstories. They are part of the world.

>>3830201 (OP)
Good worldbuilding with good dialogue and characters.
Everything else is mediocre or downright terrible.

Best one is the only good one, the first game.
The rest are all mediocre.

>>3838613
>Good worldbuilding with good dialogue and characters.
That's the part that turned me off the most, lol. Generic story and generic characters with boring dialogue.

>>3838615
It almost killed me

>>3838615
For Origins? Good worldbuilding with good dialogue and characters is what I thought too. Yes it's generic, but it's well executed, and that's good enough for me.

>>3838654
Origins was awful. Really dull characters with a very predictable plot in a generic setting. I think you have to like SyFy shows to enjoy that kind of writing.

>>3838660
It didn't help that you have these characters trying to emote during a scene and they spackled with blood. Like, wipe your mouth, guys, shit is gross.

>>3838660
Alright then, give me an example of an RPG with good writing

>>3835669
>4/5ths of the companions are non-white and painfully ugly
>the only white companion is a girl with dyed hair with a lesbian cut
>"these are actually pretty good"
I sincerely hope they pay you to espouse that opinion. I don't mean that as a joke or to call you a shill, but the only two reasonable answers for why someone would look at that shitty picture and talk about how good it looks is that they're being paid to do so or they're retarded.

>>3838772
>4 lines typed
funny seething is funny

>>3838772
>4 lines typed
funny seething is funny

>>3838704
Betrayal at Krondor

>>3838772
>>4/5ths of the companions are non-white and painfully ugly
Yes, why would I care about this after everything I said? Wrex, Garrus and Javik are clearly attractive white women, that's why I liked them in my space scifi RPG.

You made it very clear your nr1 priority for companions in a space scifi RPG is for the companions to be attractive white women with hourglass figures and lusting for your cock every second.

>>3830201 (OP)
Origins is legitimately good, but not enough to bother doing more than one playthrough other than dabbling with the different origins.

DAII isn't great, but has some interesting story beats.

Inquisition ha fun levels to explore that looked really nice, that's basically the only thing of value.

If I can get the digital version of Veilguard for less than ten dollars or the physical version for less than thirty, I will play it.

>>3835669
I play pretty much all RPGs as a human supremacist and do my best to maintain human supremacy. Kill all non human companions.

>>3838852
There's a difference between interesting alien creatures and a bunch of literal jeets, mexicans and nogs in space. The fact that you're arguing in bad faith and trying to equate Wrex with pic related as though it's the same thing must be some indication to you that your argument doesn't have any merit.

Fun and exciting alien races with unique physiology isn't DEI. Fat space Samoan women are.

>>3830201 (OP)
1: meh, but alright
2: beyond garbage
3: mega garbage
4: not even going to give it a chance

>>3834002
These are just troons in cosplay

>>3834002
Obsidian has never made anything worthwhile. No, New Vegas is not a good game

>>3839087
Wrong

>>3834587
So many things there making me go "what am I looking at..."
Art style, bringing that stupid dwarf back A THIRD TIME, Harding mattering, the token qunari, "I'm putting together a team", how did anyone approve that?

>>3836504
Don't pick Redcliffe first and it'll be much easier.

>>3835694
>Hype everything up by implying some deeper lore, then deliver the same old tiresome Hollywood style cliches
Anon Bioware only ever had one (1) single cliche plot through their entire lineup of games. Nobody even slightly familiar with RPGs ever expected anything original from them. People loved Bioware for comfyness and neat characters (especially waifus/husbandos).

>>3830201 (OP)
Would anyone really answer this question by legitimizing Veilguard as their favorite and Origins as their least?

The only Dragon Age that should exist is Origins, and maybe 2 if one is desperate for more, but there's a hard cutoff after that that makes Inquisition and on bad fanfiction tier.

>>3839011
>There's a difference between interesting alien creatures and a bunch of literal jeets, mexicans and nogs in space
Their setting doesn't have humanoid aliens. Instead having humans showing how they get fucked over (experimented on, losing limbs, etc) by the corporations they're working for is both in-line with the themes of the game and makes them more interesting weirdo freaks.
No, I would not prefer 5 horny blond bimbos. If I wanted that I would play some porn game.

>>3840952
>neat characters
They made the same characters over and over.

>>3840989
>themes of the game
That's one theme. Singular. I guess there is going to be gay shit, also. Riveting.

>>3841285
If you want to dumb everything down in the game into
>le capitalism bad
because you have trouble grasping it, that's on you. Which is pretty funny anyway, because it's not like Fallout, Underrail or anything else that gets posted on this board is high brow stuff.

>>3830203
>I have only played Origins, and I think it's one of the best RPGs ever made.
wow you are literally me

how did they fumble it so badly