Thread 3836331

Why do all these giant modding projects end up like this?

tldr
bethshit sux

>>3836331 (OP)
who?

I literally do not care. Release it and fuck dramafarming
boohoo the leads want to release it already and are done with the scope creep of the project. fucking drama queens

SkyblivionDev crashes out on twitter
Project is extremely mismanaged like all Modding projects, it's an inevitability at this point

>>3836341
tl;dr "the leads just want to finish it already and to stop dragging it out forever"
sounds fine to me

>>3836340
its not remotely ready yet it, most of it is bought Unreal assets or unfinished work by people who left years ago.
Skyrim remastered makes this project seem like the massive embarrassment it is

>>3836341
>"Let me tell you's a little bit about me. Since the young age of 14 I have been an addict an opioid addict to be specific"
Cool, a schizo I can just ignore

>>3836331 (OP)
Why the fuck did this even need to be made, is my question.
It's just such a non-requirement. If they had applied this amount of time and effort to making something of their own, a la Enderal, they could have really had something.
Instead it's just been a massive boondoggle, waste of fucking time. All so that they could shittily port a game into a shittier game.
Even if it came out tomorrow, I don't see any reason to give a fuck. Everyone who still cared about Oblivion just played the remaster, and the remaster is already better than anything these people are capable of managing.
The whole idea was folly from the start. Kind of sad, actually. I imagine what could have been accomplished if they spent all this time and effort actually trying to make something new and personal instead of just shitty remaster, and I just think it's a damn shame. A damn shame.
I remember thinking roughly the same thing about this garbage 10 years ago when I was fucking 19. A decade later, and where have they gotten? Nowhere. The fact that they made it all this time without realizing how retarded this premise is is mind-boggling.
And why are they only just losing steam now? Oblivion remaster, and because Bethesda's reputation is declining rapidly since Starfield. So what were even their motives? Consumerist fanboyism, I suppose. Consumerist fanboyism pulled from a well that's long ran dry.

>>3836341
Oh dear, the project that gave your life meaning for 10 years is about to end meaninglessly. That sucks.

At least they can cope by creating drama out of it.

>>3836341
>"I've been slaving away at this for decades under the premise that we'll never release it. Ever."
>"Now that people are telling me it needs to release and all this work needs to come to fruition, I'm throwing a bitch fit."
Huh?
I'll translate retard gibberish: He's made working this mod his whole identity, and he doesn't know what to do without it. He's a fucking slave, he can't move on. If he had his way, it'd never release. When he hears that it needs to release and they can't just tweak away at it literally indefinitely, he takes it personally because it's like his life's purpose is something that just needs to be finished off already.
In short, he's an obsessive retard who is taking the project way too personally. He has a parasocial relationship with it, and is having a narcissist freakout.
>>3836360
Never should have wasted his life on it in the first place.

>>3836331 (OP)
Skywind and Skyblivion were always absolutely redundant projects made to look good on someone's resume.

>>3836343
problem is these fuckers committed to "no release until it's ready" which means they only have the hype to keep it going. something like tamriel rebuilt opted for much more reasonable approach of modular releases where content itself draws people in.

>>3836353
90% of the people on these projects are autistic

>>3836368
Difference being TR is doing its own thing, they're not remaking a game.

>>3836331 (OP)
>>3836341
He's gonna kill himself, isn't he?

>>3836331 (OP)
gonna need some source

>>3836331 (OP)
If there's problem on continuing it, better if they release all the contents, ask for being cited if someone wants to continue it and stop. Like it happened with Fallout 1 Remake.

BTW, it would have prevailed where Oblivion Remastered would have failed: on mods.

>>3836358
You sound mad people dedicated their free time doing what they enjoyed
>noooooooo you don't get it, you *need* to create a new world that'll be forgotten about a year after release like Enderal's poor attempt at being a 2deep4u Gothic wannabe feat. The Reapers

>>3836362
>He's made working this mod his whole identity, and he doesn't know what to do without it. He's a fucking slave, he can't move on
Which is weird, because it's not like Skyblivion's release will mean its end. They'll still have to work on the small add-ons like Mehrunes Razor or Frostcrag Spire, then the two big DLC that are Knights of the Nine and Shivering Isles. What Rebelzize rightfully believes is that these projects taking so long to release end up giving diminishing returns with people starting to think they are vaporware like what's happening to Beyond Skyrim. Skyblivion locking in a 2025 release date a couple years back and sticking to it through thick and thin is what's generating hype lately, as it shows people it's not all smoke and mirrors and the release is imminent.

>>3836395
There's an opportunity cost to it.
This retard >>3836341 for example spent 10 years on it, and is in a homeless shelter addicted to opiates. Imagine if they had a job, or at least devoted their free time to something impressive they could put on their resume or sell instead.
You may as well say I have no right to criticize someone for staying at home jerking off either. I guess I don't in the cosmic sense, but at the end of the day it's clear that these people have been wasting their lives, and they aren't even happy about it.
>people dedicated their free time doing what they enjoyed
Is that why they've posted an angry, public spaz-out?

>>3836406
>they
>spaz-out
I'm 99% sure I know who you're and where you're going to post in a couple of weeks.

>>3836440
If you're 99% sure, you're 99% a retard schizo. There's no fucking way you know who I am. The world doesn't revolve around you and whatever faggot clique you're from.

>>3836331 (OP)
nice low-effort bait, poojeet faggot
you didnt even bother to fully cover up the original text

anybody who fell for this is spiritually brown if not literally

>>3836440
You can correct that to 100% now as you've definitely hit the bullseye.

>>3836452
Oh no! My profile picture! You got me!
You should send me a message on the normal channels letting me know you totally got me!

>>3836453
Relax, anon. We're on an anonymous imageboard, how am I supposed to know what the fuck is your profile picture?

>>3836469
That’s from “da mystery of druidboxing” by the wu tang clan

>>3836469
Not being able to register sarcasm is a hallmark of autism.

>>3836476
Speaking sarcasm in written text must be a sign of idiocy, according to your logic.

>>3836479
Dude, come on. You definitely should've been able to understand that. It was pretty blatant.

>>3836482
Poe's Law. Shit like this is spoken seriously way too often online. WAY too often.

>>3836476
Do you even realize how many layers of sarcasm we're currently under?

>>3836446
sar i don't understand parody sar
autistic jeet

>>3836331 (OP)
>>3836341

>>3836568
Why are you making these schizo pics and posting them on a tiny board nobody cares about?

>>3836341
Wow, what a baby. It's just a fucking mod get over yourself.

>using autism as a sincere insult on a site for autistic wizards who love anime and manga
Are you going to hit him with a zinger like “virgin” next?

>>3836395
Enderal was good though, and finished.

>>3836701
Don't bother. That guy spits the same nonsense for years now.

My youtube feeds the last few weeks had a bunch of skyblivion hype trailers, it seemed like it was about ready to release?

Anyway the reason big projects end up with lots of drama is because modders tend to be failed professionals and generally that means they come with a lot of baggage, either due to the failure or the reason for the failure.

>>3836370
doesn't seem that much harder to release different parts of remade morrowind as you go than to release mini expansions.
>break map up into release-sized areas
>catalogue anything that spans multiple areas
>work on areas one at a time, ignoring anything that requires areas that haven't been done yet (such as quests that take you between cities)
>finish faction quests, main quest, etc when you you have areas released
>voice acting dead last so you at least have something to release once va drama consumes everything
basically what tr is doing but you already have most of your design document ready to go

>>3836799
Because I assume they had visions of grandeur of release a mega project at once to public adoration. All of Project Tamriel teams have a much more sensible, modular approach where content speaks for itself and generates them attention .

>>3836331 (OP)
>Skyblivion
First time hearing of this. How the guy behind it is going to justify the Imperial army wearing pants in Cyrodil but sending all their recruits skirts with no pants in the frozen Skyrim? What's Martin's morale stance on Thalmor? How can the Empire go from having its last Emperor and all his successors assassinated to having a guy from a line of royal pretenders (or is he the first?) also calling himself an Emperor get himself assassinated in Skyrim like a couple of weeks later?

From my point of view, the only way this project can be not shit is by being NOT Skyblivion, but if it's Skyrim+Oblivion then it's not good at all.

>>3836358
Enderal was made by hyper disciplined German giga austists while these other "overhaul" mods are made by disorganized cliques on discord where thinks dont get done.
Making a game is hard work and needs tight coordination, there is no room for "sorry irl shit got in the way" and petty drama.

>>3836860
What is it with Euro lads? Poland is also strong with modding autism.

>>3836849
bruh they're not doing any of that shit they're just putting the oblivion maps in the skyrim engine

>>3836932
Yeah, realized when actually reading the thread a bit. Doesn't sound all that good either. Skyrim's gaunt faced NPCs aren't that much of an improvement over Oblivion's potatoes. I agree with anons who said that all that energy (if there was any) would have been better spent on devs' own magical realm.

Trying to remaster a 19y old game in a 14y old game is retarded

they arent just putting oblivion maps into skyrim with no changes
the dungeons are all new, the towns are redesigned to look like their intended concept art and attributes/birthsigns are being readded

>>3836864
Just look at the credits. It was an all-Polish team making coordination and communication much easier.

>>3836341
>"waaaaaaah I'm a drug addict and blame others for my shitty life choices"
Good riddance. Negative losers like these can only hurt a project. It sounds like the mod is in a better state without this guy.

The only time I remember this mod is a thing is when one of you Bethtards makes a post crying about it. I don't understand the obsession with it.

>>3836395
Enderal is still an amazing mod and I actually liked the Bioware influence because DA:O and Mass Effect were good. It's crazy how much effort was put in that mod.

>>3836331 (OP)
The ideas for this big mods are neat, but I simply dont give a shit until they are released.

>>3836341
IL;DR

A bunch of hobbiests who basically chipped away at a project was being treated like actual employees and expected to work properly and efficiently. So it all crashed and burned when the two who thought they could succeed inevitably failed.

>>3836331 (OP)
fake and gay still coming out this year
seething op

>>3836358
>If they had applied this amount of time and effort to making something of their own, a la Enderal, they could have really had something.
That's what always baffles me.

>>3836341
>modder is a dopamine addict
wow no surprises there

>>3836598
this site is just filled with losers but no one likes autists they are too annoying and obnoxious even for the shitposting fags here
fuck off to reddit if you want a safe space cuddling autists and other mentally ill freaks

>>3836331 (OP)
I would never play a game made by someone who writes like this.

>>3837858
It’s fake.

>>3836331 (OP)
why are u rusing on the internets

Skywind >>> Skyblivion

>>3837864
I was hyped for Skywind until they announced they were doing amateur modder VA for the whole game. Literally ruined. Also it’s never coming out.

>>3837872
they cast every single role last month and all the dialogue is written, so now theyre in the process of recording, cutting, mastering and implementing of voices

>>3837528
it IS going to get delayed to 2026
mark my words

>>3837415
>Bioware influence
Interesting way to say "blatant Mass Effect ripoff".

I did think it was strange that they put out that "First 15 Minutes" video but then ended it by saying they still need people. Who the fuck knows, I guess. I hope it'll be finished eventually.

>>3836331 (OP)
this will end up just like the Frontier mod for New Vegas. You can probably do some weird shit like fuck the falmers or something

>>3836341
>Oblivion Remastered released in May
Bethesda ate Skyblivion's lunch, and these faggots are still fighting over the scraps.
This mod is so fucking over. And like most mods, it was over before it began.

>>3838587
it's sad you can see the mood clearly shifted to "fuck it, just release the damn thing already and get it over with"

>>3838600
Its a retarded mindset from them if its true. Its not like they need to worry about sales or something, its a free mod.
There's still a decent amount of hype around it and if it come out good and polished it'll gain plenty of traction. Its not like the oblivion remaster is some perfect product that can't be improved on, its a lazy UE5 stutterfest with terrible mod support.
I'm excited that it seems to be coming out soon but hopefully they aren't rushing it.

>>3838612
Many modders are like OP, attention whores with no creativity who have to attach themselves to something to get what they crave.

>>3838612
Sounds like they took one look at the remaster, and realised they couldn't do any better.

tale of two wastelands worked out

>>3836341
Is this one actually real or another shitpost made by the mentally ill op?
I'm thinking its just schizo shit since I haven't seen any discussion about this anywhere else.

>>3838754
Never believe anything you read on the internet, ever.

>>3836341
>like all modding projects
Why do you promote gross exaggerations like this? Obviously there have been huge modding projects that have succeeded previously.

>>3836341
>its a porject for the Elder Scrolls fans

How many "fans" have died waiting for this turd to finally be shat out?

>>3838755
The internet makes you stupid.

>>3836975
Skyrim was new when they started the project. They were just way, way too slow at developing it.

>>3836341
Trannies...

Half of this thread is the op samefagging.
Seems like he's got some weird hang up about mods.

>>3838754
This one is real

https://x.com/keyecomposer/status/1961922524700151893

>>3836358
>Everyone who still cared about Oblivion just played the remaster

you must be a zoomer to think that shitty remaster did oblivion any justice

>>3840188
As if Skyblivion is going to do it justice, lol.
It's more of a fanfic remake than anything else.

>>3839953
I don't even really want to wrap my head around what the drama could possibly be. Whether or not it was true when they set out >>3836975 hits the nail on the head for it. It would probably be easier to just start from scratch with the remaster for whatever it is they want from the game at this point

>>3836358
>>3837584
>Why didn't they just make something original
You gotta realize that these people weren't a business, or professionals setting out to make something. They were excited teens getting into modding, doing it on the afternoon and weekends after school. Based on no compensation, just fun for the heck of it. As the project went on and they grew up, it slowly grew into sunk-cost fallacy.

Not to mention that it was a proprietary engine they've gained all their experience. Trying to switch to an engine you can sell in, would have 100% broke the project early.

Or if you mean making something original in the Creation Engine, that's even worse, because they lose the only advantage they have, and that is the complete schematics to the thing they were doing, for no real gain.

>>3836368
This too, releasing in chunks would have allowed them to make their mark, and get feedback, and maybe even further volunteers to making things. Instead they tried to release as if they were a company.

>>3836331 (OP)
Everyone knew this was going to fail a decade or whatever ago when they first started it. It isn't the first "I want to build the TES world in a TES game", and it won't be the last.

>>3840238
>It would probably be easier to just start from scratch with the remaster
So have you been a retard your whole life or was it a recent change?

>>3840407
>Trying to switch to an engine you can sell in, would have 100% broke the project early.
This reminds me of the bitterness of one of the rpg maker development collab threads where That Guy does everything possible to force an engine shift no matter what used duplicious and forceful methods to coerce everyone to switching to a newer RPG Maker version when he failed to convince anyone to try to do it.
Why? Just because the newer version is newer despite also being old, and ignored the time investment needed to get most of everyone to transfer over for the dubious promises that did nothing to motivate them to not quit.

>>3836358
>If they had applied this amount of time and effort to making something of their own
They couldn't recreate, what makes you think they could create?