Thread 3840531

anyone excited for this? there is an alpha going on (ends monday). its basically not-Everquest. pretty cool so far

>>3840531 (OP)
Buy a banner unc

>>3840549
not affiliated with them, just think the game is interesting.

>>3840549
Buy a high-quality post, newfagGPT.

>>3840531 (OP)
Why do you think a board of no-lifers who say "it's not real RPG without choices & consequences" consider MMOs interesting
(Excluding the AdventureQuestfags poisoned by nostalgia)

>"farmer"
this is not suspicious at all

>>3840531 (OP)
That shit's been "in development" since Pantheon was just a sperm. And we all know how Pantheon turned out. Even Adrullan seems further along, and it was a fucking Minecraft mod originally.

>>3840817
Pantheon died with Brad. This game is much more promising from what i've seen. Feels just like Everquest, unlike Pantheon. They still need to add the underdark or whatever, but a lot of the world is there already.

>>3840827
I dunno, "feels like EQ" isn't really a stellar endorsement. I like some things about EQ. Like the importance of utility, crowd control and buffs making "support" valuable as a role in the party dynamic distinct from "heals". The janky environment design being full of surprises and secrets.

But being FORCED to group just to be able to play was fucking awful. Grouping should be optional and done only for the sake of easier / safer / faster rewards. It should never... fucking EVER be mandatory. Especially in a game you have to pay to play.

Also the inter-class balance of EQ was so fucking awful it is literally legendary to this day and used to teach entire courses on game design as an object lesson in what not to do. The crafting system was fucking garbage. The UI didn't even tell you what your abilities fucking do because they literally just didn't write the information down. The list goes on and on, really.

It's better if any new MMO project aspires to be better than EQ. To be un-like EQ.

>>3841407
I'm sure they have plans to improve the gameplay. All the devs are ex-EQ players basically.

>>3841445
They don't. They're just re-making EQ in Unity. They couldn't even be assed to add weapon sheathing because then it wouldn't be nostalgic enough I guess? Autism is both a blessing and a curse.

>Subscription based MMO being made by a bunch of autists
Dead on arrival unless they plan to milk other autists through Patreon or something. Honestly, they would be better off making something like a multiplayer Xenoblade, because there's nothing "wrong" with using tab targeting for combat, and they wouldn't have to deal with the cancerous MMO design baggage.

>>3840827
Why would he have cared about Pantheon when he didn't care about Vanguard?

>>3841603
Vanguard was published by SOE. Pantheon was crowdfunded. He likely had more freedom to do exactly what he wanted... in between his coke binges.

>>3841445
Plans & Promises...
They have a concept of a game.
Ya....

>>3841448
And can we take just a minute to talk about how fucking insanely stupid it is to choose Unity for a project like this?! Like, just even one fucking minute. Please.

>>3841704
He was a cokehead? Is that just you talking shit or is it true?

>>3841735
Whatever got him was never admitted publicly, but he had a long history with drug abuse. Couldn't find whatever it was that mentioned it, probably scrubbed from the internet. some articles, but they have since been removed. it's not really important anymore, i guess. no need to drag a dead man down... but yeah, coke makes the most sense, we all know its popular with professionals.

>>3841758
No, we do not "all know" that. Very convenient that you made up some shit that got "scrubbed from the internet". He's not a goddamn billionaire dictator. He was an obscure dork who made video games. "Scrubbed from the internet" fucking lawlmeow.

Yeah, you wouldn't wanna drag a dead man by talkin' shit about him on the internet. Even though you're the one who acted on the spontaneous urge to say shit...

>>3841735
>>3841841
Why are you displaying such an adverse reaction to a game developer being a drug addict?

>>3841841
lol wtf. I don't give a shit if you believe me. This is old news that no one gives a fuck about anymore. Quit crying.

aren't MMOs addictive anyway? like, everyone who plays one is an loser addict, so why would you cry about drugs?

>>3841858
You don't care so much that you said it anyway. You don't care so much that you're in here panicking and walking it back to maintain some semblance of credibility... "Yeah, maybe I dunno, it's ok if I completely fucking lied about something so easy to prove" does not make you seem superior. Nor does "quit crying bro!" when you get pressed on it.
No one's crying here but you. God damn, the trashy drama and shit talking you're engaged in has me convinced you have five inch stilletto acrylic nails right the fuck now. You've been posting here while waiting for the glue on your fake lashes to get tacky enough to stick to your fucking eyelid. You smell like a Claire's and your foundation doesn't match your skin tone. Your entire fucking life is about nothing but drag and drugs so of course you think everyone else's is too.

>>3841842
It's not an adverse reaction to drug addiction. It's an adverse reaction against gossip and rumors based on absolutely nothing. Why are you so gullible? Why do you want so badly to believe something about someone just because some random retard on 4chan said it? Why are you a pedophile? How come you watch CP on your phone? Like. Why are you a child molester?

>>3841902
lol, jesus... you're going to feel real stupid when you find out this is not an internet secret.

>>3841902
>>3841904
Brad must be this newfag's favorite e-celeb. Dude sounds like a cokehead himself bringing up kids and secks out of nowhere.

>>3841905
>>3841911
Ok, let's have the links, then. Show us all. Samefagging because your ego so fragile you can't even handle being disagreed with on an obscure anonymous image board. All you'd have to do is shut up and you'd be left alone, but you just can't let it go. You just can't let it go, you have to keep digging.

>>3841962
literally the first result in google
https://web.archive.org/web/20110807202521/http://www.fohguild.org/forums/retard-rickshaw/31593-vg-producers-letter-49.html

>>3840549
What does unc mean?

>>3841967
Type in a search for "proof the world is flat".

>>3841982
anon, fires of heaven was the best EQ raiding guild in the world. it was well known that many of the devs had joined the guild, among a few other popular guilds. this is literally the kind of shit you had to either prove who you are, or be one of the best players in the world and willing to dedicate yourself like a full time job to playing with the guild. everyone knows who that person is.
you're not going to get a picture of brad snorting a line, anon. first hand account of someone who was actually there is the best you're going to get, so stop being a bitch and just accept that it happened, and everyone who is actually serious about who Brad is and was would already know the answer to this, so fuck off already.

>>3840531 (OP)
yeah just waiting on release, I've been hopping into the tests on and off since they originally started and we can only play jank tier nighharbor for so long

I did hop on the september test for a day though and noticed fighter is going full blown WoW warrior high apm tier so now I think i might main fighter when it launches, it was originally shit tier EQ warrior for the longest.

I like the game but I still file it under DOA until I see other starter zones and how troll female looks in-game.

>>3842001
i havent been playing much of the tests, mostly cause i dont like losing progress between wipes. prefer to experience the game when its finished. ive been leaning towards playing a goblin shaman, but i'll probably end up with deep elf cause im big on living in the underground. not sure if goblins will.

>>3842004
shamans are kino, shaman or SK was my 2nd class choice and yeah same I went hard early on and they wiped a ton of times, now they seem to never wipe but the 1-10 game is fucking HORRIBLE on m&M right now, they really need more zones, mobs, and quests in general or it's dead on arrival for sure.

I need at least a qeynos equivalent 1-15 experience to give it the full blown green light.

>>3841978
uncle, it's what kids pretending to be black say. anon is using it ironically.

The game is alright. The concept art is nice, I like the "old school roleplaying" references, like every loading screen being the cover of an AD&D book. The gameplay is still too much like EQ and not enough of its own shit but it is what it is.
The only real problem with the game is the gay boomer community that just /wants/ the game to have hot garbage in it just because EQ had some shit ideas on how to solve problems. I can understand wanting your game to be challenging, but EQ wasn't challenging. It was tedious and annoying to get through to the fun exploration bits. It was also extremely primitive compared to the MUDs it was based on. Thankfully the developers aren't total faggots and are actually going to implement things like maps (eventually) and a less time wasting means of retrieving your corpse (maybe).

>>3840531 (OP)
why isn't this thread in /vm/?

>>3841407
not the game for you

>>3842001
Can you tell me how the Warrior is? I never touched it on P99 and I had a pretty bad leveling experience as Warrior on various Vanilla WoW servers so I don't know how it is at high levels.

>>3842092
people come here to make generals and adposts for games that get ignored elsewhere. nature of a slow board.

>>3842034
you sound like a little bald bitch soi boi with a shit opinion
probably a wrathbaby

>>3842094
I only experienced it up to 29 on the original EQ, but it's very, very basic in EverQuest; you basically auto-attack, kick, taunt, and bash (if you're a large race or using a shield), and you take hits in the face as a meatshield tank.

But since EQ combat is 90% auto attack, warrior was more fun back then than the other melee classes due to having access to double attack and crits, so you pumped out pretty decent damage.

In M&M, the fighter plays a lot like a WoW warrior mixed with an EQ warrior, but with no rage mechanic. Early on, you get access to a 2-minute battle shout just like in WoW, you learn charge at level 3 just like in WoW, and you get access to on-demand attacks like rend, etc., and eventually big auto-attack passives like double attack.

It may end up being one of the best DPS classes in the game due to not using a resource; every ability only has a small cooldown and no resource requirement.

>>3842173
sounds like bad design

>>3842182
try it before you knock it, little lad.

>>3842182
it's an mmo, there is no good design

>>3842183
i'm 22, don't call me that
>>3842204
the zone design in this game (and by extension, EQ) is great

>>3842207
>22
nta, and no offense, but you say that like we should give a shit. Thats still pretty much a kid, imo. You dont really know anything until you hit late 20's, and by that point its been about a decade of you screwing up and learning life.

>>3842217
uhhh okay? we're talking about a video game here

>>3842222
Just saying you make 22 sound like it means something, and it doesnt. Especially nowadays.

>>3842182
>>3842207
>>3842222
Embarrassing off-topic attempt at a "haha gotcha" from someone too young to have any significant experience with the genre.

>>3842223
>>3842237
Insufferable faggots fuck off back to r*ddit
t. 42yo

>>3842240
NOW you're 42? You're probably younger than 22 and you will always be an obnoxious newfag nigger that's for damn sure.

>>3842004
>i dont like losing progress between wipes
You don't.
When the next public test week pops up, your character from the last test(s) are there and selectable. If you hit ten in one test, you get to start ten in the next, assuming you pick the same server.

>>3842244
Game will be wiped before early access.

>>3842241
that's not me, and it's so typical for an oldhead like you to be throwing around racial slurs when you don't have any arguments left

>>3842284
>racial slurs
It was me, but now I side with those 2 faggots. Fuck off nigger.

>>3842288
good luck playing this game then, buddy
they actually crack down on this kind of behavior in game

>>3842284
>slurs
Why do newfags OBSESS over telling everyone else how new they are in every post they make? We knew from the first post when you broke down because of some dead e-celeb. You are always going to be 14-25 years old and you are never going to fit in on this website.

>>3842291
that's not me, i have no attachment to mcquaid

>>3842290
that's fine, no one wants to play your shit EQ knockoff
also you have to go back to the monsters & memories discord

>>3842296
we'll see come January

>>3842290
Why would I play a shitty Unity knockoff of EQ when I run my own eqemu server?

>>3842302
i dunno, so you can play with other people instead of some bots you fucking loon?

>>3842328
Other people play on my eqemu server.

>>3842328
calling the barely animated apes who want to pay a subscription fee for a nostalgia based mmo "people" is a stretch.

>>3842207
bald ahhh ugly ahhh bitch ahhh weak ahhh 22 yo bich ahhh

>>3842353
Which one is it that you run?

>>3842207
You're 22 and you still haven't learned how to use grammar properly? Punctuation? Do you know what a period is? You can press the "shift" key on the left side of your keyboard and then while it's held down, you can press the letter you want, and it will produce a capital letter...
But anyway, yeah, you're a child. And a particularly stupid one at that.

>>3842093
I have more time logged actively playing a single EQ1 character than you've spent alive, little boy. I am entitled to say something about the game.

>>3842249
>mostly cause i dont like losing progress between wipes
Is anon talking about EA or the frequent stress tests.
Not wiping between stress tests presently.
If wipe before EA bothers anyone shouldn't even be talking about playing now.

>>3842689
They wiped the majority of stress tests which some of the more veteran and OG players were involved in which is why so much feed back now is absolute dogshit tier because they drove off the better players after doing weak as fuck tests for a year that constantly wiped.

>>3842400
>>>/vm/1949318

>>3840531 (OP)
Why play not-Everquest when Everquest is (somehow) still getting content updates? Pic related was released last year.

>>3842708
Modern EQ is terrible and Daybreak is a shit company. Play on an Emu server if anything.

>>3842708
because modern EQ servers are shit and full of faggots
quarm is shit and full of faggots and the owner is a giga faggot ugly retard
P99 is cool but we need green 2.0

thats why

>>3842708
op here, i've played the TLPs half a dozen times or more over the years. the problem is daybreak doesnt moderate their servers and they basically let people get away with cheating, like manipulating the krono economy. you also get these same tards walking in and taking over camps and pushing you out because its not like you can do shit against a chanter/mage box combo. they dont have enough rules on boxing, imo, but some people would probably argue the other way that they should just allow everyone to box since no one follows the rules anyway, especially the people that make daybreak money.

>>3842706
Yeahhhh.... that's exactly what I thought.

>>3842715
>>3842714
There aren't any good EQEmu servers that forbid boxing. None. THJ has the best anti-box technology but... it's an Aporia server. So...

>>3842740
yeah but aporia > birdnose secrets

>>3842690
>having a meltie about wipes during Alpha
how about killing yourself, genuinely?

>>3842754
>correct a lying faggot retard who was lying
>"grrr ur having a meltie!"
lmao, retard

>>3842776
every test has seen more players than before

>>3842778
are you braindead retarded or something, little lad?
good lord

>>3842779
you get off on flaunting your old age?

>>3842780
you give off bald vibes
later fag

>>3842781
Oh, the Irony...

>>3841978
It's uncle in black.

>>3842743
Quarm is an ok experience if you just looooove vanilla EQ, because it's better than P99. But that's not saying much.
Aporia does absolutely fucking STUPID shit that ruins the entire fucking game because he doesn't fucking know what he's doing and does not care. And worse, he gaslights about it and insists that everything is fine and you just have to trust the vision while he keeps breaking more and more shit.

>>3843067
>And worse, he gaslights about it and insists that everything is fine and you just have to trust the vision while he keeps breaking more and more shit
That sounds incredibly like how EQ was to be quite desu.
How many oldfags ITT remember The Vision TM that was used as an excuse for every crazy change back in the day?

Game is going to struggle. I think its great they stick to their guns on preventing "convenience creep" but they dont seem to be able to parse between that and idiotic nostalgia fueled nonsense like unresponsive UI and ridiculously shitty chat window design from 1999 being important to the vibe.

>>3843067
>trust the vision
How much am I snorting before I'm able to see it?

>>3843077
So you played the first day of the September playtest on the busiest server in a zone with 600 other people and came here complaining about "unresponsive UI". Get the fuck out here.

>>3843077
It may not end up being a million dollar wage for the devs, but I'm sure the sub fee from a few thousand players will be a nice supplement to their day job. They don't necessarily seem concerned with making a shit ton of money, since they're just doing this now in their spare time with no crowdfunding. Seems more like they just care about making a game that they, and their fans, want to play, and I'm fine with that. Only need about 1-2k people to make a server seem active.

>>3843079
I'd wager you could get appropriately high from one huff of Aporia's farts, but it's hard to tell because Aporia himself doesn't seem to breathe if it isn't from his own shitcunt. And no one plays on his shitty servers who hasn't been there from the beginning, so it's hard to find a control group is what I'm saying.

>>3843110
What an absolute cope, holy niggers.
Yes, the UI is unresponsive because the server is unresponsive. That's when it isn't under full load where the game absolutely breaks down and goofy things start happening like mobs moving to some other point when you shoot them with an arrow instead of chasing you.
But it's fucking Unity, so even if they actually fix their netcode it will still be unresponsive trash, because Unity is unresponsive trash.

>>3843705
I didn't have any problems with an unresponsive UI. Sounds like your pc is just dogshit.

>>3840581
Tax farmer

>>3843705
>unresponsive.
You should bug report those things, anon. Sounds like your computer has an issue or just your connection.

>>3842708
modern EQ is cool but the interface is ass, I'd rather play a more modern game like Monsters & Memories