Thread 3847674

Rebooblican edition.

About to start Disgaea 2 for the 3rd time, hoping I have enough patience to get through the entire postgame this time instead of dropping it right after the story mode. Fuck pirates, fuck felonies, fuck cellphones, fuck dark world stage unlock conditions , etc.

I just finished the main story of Disgaea 2. The side characters were stronger but I felt the main duo didn't have enough development. The game felt much easier than the first game, although I was quite a bit underleveled when playing first. Also, I miss my female brawlers.

>>3847703
I wanted to add another thing. Since, I was playing with Japanese audio, I could tell the localization was faithful for the most part, except when it came to Etna. What's the deal with the Beauty Queen stuff?

>>3847674 (OP)
I'm going to start Disgaea 2 for the first time once I 100% Disgaea 1. The only hard achievements remaining are the 10 million damage and hyperdrive ones which I'm not really looking forwards to since it's just time consuming. My majin easily does 2 million damage at this point though so I just need to level him to another 3 million damage then use braveheart.

>>3847708
I think they just sort of let her VA do whatever she wants. She really likes her roll.

I finished my item world run for my trap, this was honestly not worth the effort for 1 item. Kill bonus is so fucking slow to get up. I did everything I could, 20 stars, invader path, kill everything even in mystery rooms which just adds more floors to grind. All that shit and still get like 12+ kill bonus every 10 floors + mystery room floors.

are oither NIS games allowed? i want to autistically rant about the phantom brave sequel

>>3848166
Sure why not. Haven't heard much about the sequel since it was released.

>>3848170
The original game was a comfy self contained story, even the alternate Another Marona arc as well. For some god awful reason they seem to be over-explaining and introducing an entire system about how phantoms work and how they can sometimes just magically do whatever they want now. No need to confine you can just possess someone or something lol. Every """"phantom"""" in this game is no different from a fucking living being. I already thought the story was bad enough just judging from the first chapter, making Ash look like a retard. Theres no real mystery either, the main villian is painfully obvious and i know for sure theyre going to bring back the sulphur somehow. Throw in extra party members because why not disgaea did it hahaha. the writers are surely not the same from the first game right? and then i get to Ch8 where they introduce this "LOST" shit. If you"have no purpose" for lingering as a phantom too long or some bullshit they turn into a monster because...(???) im this close to just dropping it i hate this fanfic tier game so much. at least some of the designs are cute despite the 3d downgrade.

>>3848191
Man 3D is the death of all 2D franchise.

Just unlocked the carnage dimension in 5 but I'm not sure what to do from there.

>>3848033
honestly, she does it pretty well so I'm not that hung up on it

I want to FUCK Etna

>>3848211
I dont hate it entirely but it makes all the games look even more low budget, with the animations as well. Ash for example looks is ridiculous

>>3848451
I think they should make the heads smaller atleast. Like enough where its not so weird.
Other than that the series doesn't suffer really from being 3d, just that NIS couldn't budget their money wisely.

>>3848451
Look at that head shape, those puffy cheeks. He looks like a baby.

>>3848549
It's the proportions. They're like 2.5 heads tall. They could have made them like Disgaea's that are like 4 heads tall instead, although I get why they did that. It's because the game is more zoomed out than Disgaea, but still.

what are they going to do with all those unordered slumber cat clocks?

>>3848660
wait I'm in the wrong dimension it's just a hand waver here
uh I'm retarded don't mind me

>>3848641
It's not just the body, though--The face shape is distinctly baby-ish. I tried to illustrate it somewhat.

For example, Blue Archive's chibis have similar body proportions, but their more rounded faces work a lot better for making the characters look chibi without looking like child versions of themselves.

>>3848668
Oh yeah thats a great example , it feels a little unfair because i think BA has the best chibis ive seen but thats exactly what i was thinking regarding NIS 3d models dont look as "chibi" anymore. Reusing the base model shape for 90% of the humans really shows

>>3847674 (OP)
Bring back the old OP pic

>>3848679
You can't change the OP pic

>>3848679
You just have to accept it.

Here is your Disgaea musou, anon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OeiijXYpkrM

And also, new Yomowari trailer for which I am more excited personally
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3kk4YQgskw

>>3848799
whoever handled and approved the audio mixing of the trailer should get sacked, but I'm looking forward to more animations like with that felynn near the end

>>3848799
ever since the /nisg/ threads on vg ive always wanted a disgaea musuo it seems like the perfect series for it. even if im not sure if its set in the same universe.

also praying its a functional game by release

>>3848799
Ehhh, musou Disgaea isn't really a genre I really wanted from the series but I guess its a good excuse to finally have fully playable 3d Disgaea characters that isn't chibi 3D. 2nd game seems interesting.

>>3848859
>the audio mixing of the trailer
Youtube's shitty new "autodub" was on by default for me, did you disable it?

>>3848968
no I think it was trying to autodub, I forgot that existed. Audio mixing no longer liquid dogshit.
going to see if I can pin down how to turn it off by default, thanks

>>3848930
Small indie company please understand.

>>3848924
the game looks like shit and doesn't really interest me but i do hope someone rips that nekomata model and i hope there are succubi as well

>>3848930
They're so fucking tall, holy shit.

>>3849022
I just noticed but there are some giga tiny ones as well

what are the chances that those nisa niggers release the d7c patch and dlc on switch and ps5 after the switch 2 ver is out?

>>3849004
yeah it looks like a bad shovelware game but im still willing to give it a try

>>3848799
Nippon Ichi is too incompetent to turn off autodub. Hell, their cheap ass is probably happy they don't need to pay English dubber.
Fuck NIS.

>>3848924
>>3848930
>>3849004
>>3849159
Is this a Felicia from Darkstalkers rif off? I'm glad someone is doing something with that design, since Crapcom decided to sit on it and do nothing with it.

>>3849425
It's just the old cat girl that's been in every Disgaea anon.

>>3849430
I like these proportions a lot better, the 3D nekomatas are too tall and lanky and their tits are too big.

>>3849433
Not many people are fans of the transition to 3D, personally I think it's not THAT bad but I do wish it'd be closer to the original art style of the 2D games.

>>3849433
They look weird because they're too lanky instead of muscular as originally intended.

>>3849477
The model's forearms and calves are so skinny compared to that concept art. Their hands and feet are normal human-sized too, seems like they should be a lot larger.

It's like nekomata cosplay.

>>3849433
Nothing wrong with big cat tits
>>3849477
>>3849533
i cant remember but i feel like nekomatas have not been toned or muscular since disgaea 4. or the 3D psyop finally got to me

>>3849581
still toned/muscular in 5 at least

wow shorts. why even add the succubus to this game

>>3849433
>>3849477
>>3849533
>>3849581
Succubi used to be thicc too
Harada's artstyle just changed over time and now everyone has lanky proportions
It's dumb for the kitcats though since they're supposed to be tomboy martial artists and muscular catgirls is a unique character concept compared to most other catgirls which are just extra soft and feminine

>>3849695 (Me)
>muscular catgirls is a unique character concept
Well not really unique since as another anon mentioned earlier the design was probably inspired by Felicia from Darkstalkers
and I guess the early 2000s was during the domestication process of fictional catgirls so they were still some Amazonian ones and not all moe

>>3847703
yup sadly Adel is a nothing protag

>>3847703
>Pleinair
You didn't beat the game.

>>3849982
She owes me sex

>>3849982
I didn't use her in 1 so I wanted to use her in Disgaea 2. She's cute.

>>3848930
I noticed there's groups of the same enemy that's big and small. I wonder if giant magichange will be in this game.

>>3849425
Even back in 6th gen, Japanese knew we weren't getting more Darkstalkers. They had to throw fans a bone somehow.

How does everyone feel about "dood" and "-ssu" here? I have no strong feelings but I heard "dood" first, and depending on the game I turn voice volume to zero.

>>3850379
It's never really bothered me I suppose, neither back when I used the English VAs or now with the Japanese ones

>>3850379
I like both and "dood" is iconic in its own way, but overall the Japanese prinnies' voices are less grating so I like them better. Compare:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wFFLKvXyQ4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3hJn00H-z0

>>3850379
My opinion is that it's one of those things that are just a bitch to translate so I'm okay with the translators going for "dood", since as far as I'm aware, the "ssu" thing is a shortened "desu" and it's associated with a boorish way of speaking, not downright vulgar but not exactly proper either.
I'm cool with it, and I find it make the Prinnies more endearing.

>>3850379
I have no nostalgia for the english localization, so it's ssu for me. Also funny end particles are part of Japanese so it's less poignant. Zam? Really?

>>3850379
It doesnt bother me but i will never ever play these games with a dub on regardless

What music track do you pick for the item world? For me it's
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NaV5whjSb1U

>>3847703
I finally beat Axel mode. It was fun and his band of freaks was endearing, although I think I left a legendary 39 on one of them after starting a new cycle. The post-credits scene made me laugh genuinely.
I think all maps were pretty small, which is how I like them, and there were no maps with those dumb geo effect "puzzles" that drag on for too long. It was enjoyable overall. I also liked how the level of the enemies jumped from 70 to +100. I kept myself from over-leveling by reincarnating a bunch, and for the final map, I decided not to ruin the experience and passed the stronger enemies bill before trying out the map. I got my healer one-shotted in the first turn because they were 300-400 levels above me, but I still managed to pull through. Sleep is really op.

>>3847674 (OP)
>Boobjobbed archer
What a Blasphemy. Flat is Justice.

>>3848451
TINY ands and feet, HUGE hips.
Those are cartoonish girl proportions applied to men also.

>>3850403
Personally I like the English prinny better. The English prinny sounds goofy and wimpy, the perfect voice for a pathetic minion to kick around. While the Japanese version just sounds like a normal guy.

>>3851444
Axel's theme

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJDlD8yY-Us&list=FLbWlbTfKCXgZpVyQht3vNtQ&index=286&pp=gAQB8AUB

God I can't believe this video is still up nor, that its been on my playlist for..... pic related.

>>3851699
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1HncbIPegZM&list=FLbWlbTfKCXgZpVyQht3vNtQ&index=267&pp=gAQB8AUB
Really liked this version as well

>finally start D5, in part for Metallia
>she only has 3 voice lines in English
>in Japanese i don't like the higher pitch and it evokes too much the feeling of woman playing young boy for some reason.
>she's OP
If only I had a way to replay the The Witch and the Hundred Knight, but I'm without a working PlayStation.

>>3852533
She's not just OP either, she's almost mandatory for a lot of post game stuff. Also is that game on steam?

>>3852533
swamp pussy

Was Disgaea D2 the first game to depict Laharl's wing tattoos?

>>3853270
dunno but it was the first game to depict his womb tattoo

Why is my level 300 exodus reducing my HP by 1/4 like a weight in D4?

D3 on the vita was/is my favorite, It has a bunch of crossovers with the Ps2 era NIS characters and previous disgaeas, and I liked the main cast, I thought they bounced off of each other really well. sucks that the only way to play it atm is vita or PS3 emulation

>>3854025
Why haven't they ported it to modern platforms anyway? Is it the pixel graphics or did it flop too hard?

>>3854025
How is Vita emulation these days? It's been over a decade since I last played 3, and that was on PS3. I'm curious about Raspberyl mode and the DLC girls.

>>3854030
I have no idea
>>3854031
Its gotten better, D3 can run pretty alright but I'm still wary of it possibly randomly crashing during item world grinding or something. I remember playing rasberyl mode and the dlc girls story, it was neat and I miss the sort of alternate modes like etna mode that older disgaea had, they used to have a couple different endings but now we usually only get 1 ending. Rutile, the cat one is a half-nekomata and complete cinnamon roll, stella the more demon looking one is friends with her and strong arms her into pretending to transfer to evil academy and stealing i think the deed? its been a minute, but essentially she's the dean of a rival school and is similar to how mao was in the beginning of d3, so it was neat getting to see mao absolutely school her and display some of his character growth from the main campaign.

>>3854030
Trying to avoid bringing back a black listed VA.

>>3854048
why would japanese devs care or even know about that?

>>3854048
i don't think they really know or care about english VA drama

>>3854052
>>3854059
Feels like NISA(America) is the only ones actually pushing for these games to be put on steam. I don't think NIS of Japan really cared to port them to the PC.

>>3848799
>>3848924
>>3848930
What the fuck am I looking at?

>>3854142
Disgaea musou/warriors

>>3852760
>She's not just OP either, she's almost mandatory for a lot of post game stuff.
I can see that, I think.
Having discovered i can have a prinny an hero himself when she's close to full revenge and then using her overload on an entire map makes the capture squad feel pointless.
>Also is that game on steam?
no, unfortunately, and I personally have no hope of it ever getting ported.
>>3852889
>swamp pussy
100+ years young swamp pussy

>>3854190
It's bad.

>>3854218
She got all the Tera Spells except Heal. So if you want to farm the skills in the chara world...
Careful about Greedy Mekhashefa, as if the prisoners are too strong, you won't be able to beat them up and Extract from them.
Why yes, I'm talking about Carnage Dimension how could you tell.

I get the feeling I should have opted for UPS or whatever it was nisa offered instead of standard delivery my smoothbrain d7 preorder, that slumbercat probably won't get here until November and icbf to email their customer support to attempt to change it

>>3847674 (OP)
Well just incase anons don't know there is also a Disgaea thread on >>>/vmg/1501381 I'm mentioning and linking each other since Disgaea fans are scattered

Archer is so cute and retarded.

>>3855181
>>3855218
Flattie flattie, cute flattie croissant!

got an email about ewwdo edition at 1 am but copy/pasting the tracking number in doesn't recognize the number and rest of the email is formatted differently than when they mailed me a plushie recently, which is weird

>>3855250
i've seen posts elsewhere about people also having issues with buying stuff through nis store / rosen queen so i guess something is fucked up on their end

why the fuck does Nippon Ichi keep insisting to make 3D games?
they could've stuck to the 2D they are good at and make games that actually looks good

>>3856199
drawing and animating hundreds of 2d sprites is much more costly and takes a lot longer than rigging a shitty 3d model and reusing animations.
BUT they could've just reused the high-res sprites from 4, 5, 1C and D2 and no one would've complained

>>3856201
if they wanted to be ambitious then they could've in the 2D way
and if they wanted to be lazy they could've recycled (i know I wouldn't complain)

it just looks like they wanted their games to look ugly for the sake of looking ugly

>>3856199
Knowing Nippon Ichi, they were at the brink of bankruptcy before D5, they probably want to be economic when they can, and making 3D seems easier than 2D.
Obviously we all agree that their 3D is utterly shit.

>>3856291
I like the 3d enough that I'd be hesitant to call it shit, though I would still prefer 2d

>>3856291
literally PS1 graphics

>>3856446
get your eyes checked

>>3856446
A little better.

>Finish all the preparations to get my first character maxed out in D5
>Can't be fucked to do the rest
I didn't even launch the game since then. Shid.

>>3856624
The Chara World is a nightmare.

slumbercat get

For me, it's Magic Knight

>>3856737
I always make this class and never use them because I could never figure out how to build them in every game. Hybrid classes always elude me.

>>3856737
She and her uga buuga are a treasure.
It's too bad she is absolutely powercreeped, and that her gimmick is a sloppy.

>>3856806
She's our magic autismo.

>>3856630
Yeah that and the shards, and the gear, and the innocent. It's not even that it's difficult, it just turn my brain into mush, it make me feel like one of those carricature of a worker at conveyor belt that just stamps car plate all fucking day.

>>3856630
Does maxing out a character get any less tedious in later games? In 5 I already asagi'd up a bunch of people and gave them a gorillion stats with shards, but doing Chara world for even one is taking forever (and I'm not sure what to do next either)

>>3857186
Ironically, farming for shards, extracts, and doing the Chara World, make getting Innocents relatively easy, since they'll breed like bunnies in the farm, so you'll be sure to have a lot of characters equiped.

>>3857287
I have no idea, I haven't finished 5 yet so I'm not touching 6, and 7 does nothing to me.

>>3857287
Maxing characters through chara world isn't really necessary and can beat all content without maxed attitudes. Your bigger stats come from

>shards + extract potions(the item you get from extracting prisoners) = 20 mill stats
>maxing all sub classes then reincarnation and placing that character into the Elite 4 squad and releveling that character back up = another 20mil stats
Giving you a grand total of 40mil in all stats. If I remember right, if its not 40mil in all stats then its probably 20mil in all stats.

Then your weapon stats you need
>a 400 kill bonus + max training bonus(forgot what number it stops at but it'll usually be finished when you reach 400 kill bonus which takes the longest) rank 40 legendary carnage weapon
And in order to do the above, you need to run through your item's carnage item world at 20 stars difficulty as you get more kill bonus as its crazy slow to get up. See>>3848040

D5 really made shit more tedious because I don't remember it being this bad in 1-4 but its been forever since i played those.

D5 felt like it really jumped the shark with the grinding then it seemed like they overcorrected in D6 by removing a bunch of mechanics.

>>3857363
NTA but I remember a guide years ago about the best weapons you could get, however, I am dumb, and the guide felt obtuse at the time, would you be okay to explain to me the steps to get the best weapons available in D5?

>>3857451
There's 3 rank 40 rank legendary weapons for each weapon type compared to previous games. Some people like to call them rank 40, 41, and 42 but its mostly a gimmick differences. You need to unlock carnage dimension so you can start collecting carnage items if you haven't ready. Pretty much all normal items and gear you've collected becomes useless and want carnage versions of the items like pic related.

>>3857451
>>3857524
Duping multiple copies of an item is also made much worst too in D5. You have to run through item world for a chance at a specific mystery room that makes a copy of the item you're in, innocents and all. Along with another RNG probability of the NPC failing. You basically have a 1/3 chance of getting your item to dupe per mystery room visits.

In D3 and D4, you could have your entire team decked out in 40 rank legendary weapons in less than a week. Took me over a week just to get 1 item to dupe. D5 gets too much praise for all its QoL features because they also took 2 steps back for every good they did.

>>3857524
>>3857540
ah hell

>>3857552
Good luck. Even with cheat engine, this shit was tedious. That or the table I found was useless for the most tedious stuff.

I felt absolutely no guilt abusing save states in Disgaea postgame, ESPECIALLY with bonus rooms. Younger me suffered horribly at the hands of that goddamn Fortune Teller, I quit before I could even get as far as item duping.

>>3857524
I personally prefer the Legendary ones, which is it's own canworm especially on Carnage.

>>3857540
You are truly at the mercy of the RNG. Good luck maxing your Traps.

One of my biggest grip is how the Innocents are handled.

Honestly, I prefer games that crash a lot because they are internally unstable like just about every Bethesda game, to D5's more than just occasional Improper use the CPU/GPU and locking up the full OS crashes.
using task manager to prevent the processes from using some of the CPU cores lets the OS recover when it is a CPU issue. but doesn't fully eliminate the crashing.

>>3857732
I've heard a lot of complain regarding 5 completely locking up one's rig, but that has never happened to me. Not even a crash. I really can't tell if I'm just that lucky or if the complains are overblown.
The most I've had to suffer was the game making my rig bitch when launching it, slowing down everything to a crawl.

>>3857540
smooth Early, Middle, Late, and even early post-game
but dat late post-game

>>3856737
For me, Samurai

>>3848191
Not to discourage you further
But GODDAMN did they fuck up Sulphur in this game.
Sulphur was cool as shit, as a barely understood force of nature, that acted for completely alien reasons beyond human comprehension.
They made him a generic rpg villain. A whiny one.

>>3849695
Actually the succubus and nekomata weren't Harada, I'm pretty sure.
I'm pretty sure they were done by the La Pucelle guy, fukkin, Ryoji or whatever.
Harada redid their sprites when they went to HD, which is when both got slimmer, and is their design today. Also when the succubus lost her snake tail.

>>3850379
I like dood.
It has a certain bit of personality and charm to it I can't get over.
Even nowadays when the dubs are a lot lower quality, I still prefer dood.

>>3849695
I'd say they were more cartoonish.

I liked the gameplay and what I've seen of the story for Disgaea 1, but good lord the grinding and how slow things feel kills me. Should I just skip to 5?

>>3859899
1) Download Disgaea PS2/PSP rom and associated emulator
2) Bind 500% fast-forward hotkey to an unused trigger button
3) ???
4) Profit

>>3859903
I was playing the PC version on my Steam Deck.

>>3859899
If you dislike grinding, Disgaea isn't for you, let alone 5.

>>3859899
Disgaea arguably 1 is the least grindy of the Disgaea games, while 5 is the definitely most grindy.
For the speed part, the later Disgaea games have options to speed up movement and animations and even Disgaea 1 has an option to disable special attack animations all together.
For the main story though you shouldn't have to grind that much if that's where you're at, it's when the "tactics" part of "tactics RPG" is still relevant. It's only the post game when the difference in levels that enemies get between stages is in the hundreds or thousands that the grind becomes necessary.

>>3860000
Witnessed.
Also I wanna have consensual hand holding with Etna dood.

>>3860000
feels like D5 is tricking you, every thing goes super speed until you get to the LoC and Baal then it slows to a crawl

meanwhile with D1 no LoC or Challenge maps at all once you beat the lv 6000 prinny Baal that's about it

>October 19th
It's Sicily's birthday
say something nice about her!

>>3861669
She is a good tank in 5.

>>3861669
she has the best Xeno version

>>3861669
She's the least retarded sibling in her game

>Go to room with Zed, Xenolith, Void, and Thunderlord Laharl
>ask them who is the best imouto
>watch the battle rage

>Ash is compelled to fight anyway
>Adell says he's fighting for his sister but he just wants to fight
>Laharl says he just wants to fight but is fighting for his sister
>Yeyasu is glad it's not about little brothers so he doesn't have to fight

>>3861724
I miss my chuuni sicily, I will never forgive boltrend...

>inside of you are two Laharls
>one keeps you up at night, imagining unspeakable things
>the other, has boobs

Axel is a great character, but damn, this is kind of depressing.

https://vgmtreasurechest.com/soundtracks/disgaea-2-dark-hero-days-exclusive-songs/rwkjnqpb/01%20Axel%20Blues.mp3

>>3864098
I really like his hub theme
It seemed like he got better after 2's main story, it's been a while so I wonder what happened before 4 that made him a hell janny
I don't remember how that ended for him either, hope he's alright though, he deserves it

>>3864109
>I don't remember how that ended for him either,
If memory serves.
He's the acting president of the netherworld. He has almost no practical power, because Valzy and pals are strong enough to bully him, but he's nominally and publicly the face of the Netherworld. Think Mr. Satan in Dragonball. He has all the people's support, a bunch of money(?), and all he has to do is handle the pr of being the most important people.
Assuming the Fuka & Desco show is canon, his family's finances are more or less sorted out, iirc.

>>3864090
One if taller, more mature.
GOD I WANT TO FUCK THAT LAHARL.

>>3864188
Every Laharl is pretty fuckable ngl

>>3864188
Etna, please.

>>3864188
>taller, more mature.
maou krichevskoy-sama?

How does Disgaea 7 perform on PC? Steam reviews are "Mostly Positive" overall, but "Mostly Negative" recently, with some comments talking of entire system crashes.

>>3866391
Depends. Are you on Windows 11?

>>3856740
Usually it best to go all in on magic as her ability is boosts elemental skills, but 5 onward gives her unique elemental sword skills so you can use them too in those games.

>>3866401
Yes.

I have a Switch 2, should I just get it on that instead?

>>3866460
Nta but switch 2 has the complete edition with all the dlc and some bonuses, right now it's switch 2 exclusive in the west (this is really fucking stupid)
So if you're looking for somewhere to play the game, that's the better option right now
Disgaea doesn't tend to get any mods or anything so I don't think you'll miss out on much by not being on pc

ojou sama sex

So anyone played this?

Looks like RPGmaker slop.

>>3868879
Played whaaaaaaaaaaa
Actually, there's potential in making that sort of games. Imagine a game that embrace the autism, or an EraDisgaea.

>>3868879
Porn games aren't worth playing, especially RPG Maker ones. I just look up the CGs instead.
https://exhentai.org/g/2345379/12d4e77b36/

>>3847703
Cool, I just picked up Disgaea 2 on sale and plan on emulating the rest since NIS doesn't care about their PC ports.

>>3847674 (OP)
What should I expect from this series? I played FF Tactics and the advance versions before and I was eyeing the games due to a a /v/ a few days ago, plus the first game is cheap on steam currently

>>3869508
Fun srpgs with lots of (OPTIONAL and mostly post game) grinding, every item can be powered way up by going into the item and doing randomized mini stages inside of it
There's also a picking up and throwing mechanic to help your units get across gaps, or toss enemies further away. I'm not sure if this and jump heights really play much of a role in other srpgs since I haven't played many
"Da grindan game" meme really comes from the post game stuff or if you spread yourself too thin and try to raise too many guys at once, but for reference, the final bosses in some games are level 120 or so and the postgame final super guys can be anywhere from 2000 to 9999 where you need to level your character that high and back to 1 multiple times, plus perfect all your equipment to even stand a chance (at least in dd2 and 5)

Be warned if you're starting with the first, it's extremely jank even with the qol changes they've made over the years. It's a relatively low budget early PS2 jrpg, so be aware of that. 2 is much better in most metrics and is my honest recommendation, but it's less iconic and the plot actually involves the cast of the previous game at times (very rare occurrence in the series)
That said, the better the visuals and gameplay get, the worse the plot generally becomes, at least in the 2d games

>>3869508
The series is known for its grinding though you won't have to do too much of it if you only care about the main story. The games don't take themselves real seriously so expect lots of humor and tropes.
Nearly everything has levels: your characters have levels, the items they use have levels, their weapon skills have levels, and the abilities they use have levels.
You start from single digit stat numbers and can go into the millions or billions.
There's arguably less tactics than in FFT, but even more grinding.

The first game is a good place to start, it doesn't have as many of the mechanics as the newer games but you don't have to worry about learning everything at once, the games build on top of each other mechanically. Though it does lack the QoL features as the latter entries. It also arguably has the best story out of all the games.

>>3869508
Pretty much what the other anons said, there's no real strategy other than pumping big numbers to over power your enemies and there's always some kind of trick or mechanic to over powering your characters super easily so don't be alarmed when you see stuff like lvl 9,999 and stats in the billions because there's usually an easy way to get to that point but still requires a bit of grinding. In the Disgaea series you gain levels like exp, basically you can reach a point where every time you kill something you gain dozens of levels.

And postgame is the only time where that stuff truly matters and these games have a lot of post game content. The story is like 1/3 of these games and you can usually beat it at around level 100 or less depending on the game.

>>3869508
Do you like to see number go up? If so, Disgaea may become an addiction.

>>3869542
>there's no real strategy
That's not true, there's basically only strategy in Disgaea. You are probably thinking of tactics, the smaller moment to moment actions.

>the PSP port of Disgaea 1 had online
I sometimes forget they tried to push online for these games every so often.

How's phantom blade the lost hero?

>>3869508
>>3869532
>>3869542
>>3869544
Thanks, what about the pc ports? I heard there are some mods to improve stuff up

>>3869743
PC ports outside of 2 are shit. Emulate the switch ports.

>>3869828
2's port would freeze on me at times, which could be pretty punishing in the item world. you're probably safe if you don't use an AMD GPU however
note that 1's pretty prinny mod that improves terrain textures and such also works with 2

>>3869835
I just find it weird that the definitive edition is only on PC yet switch and similar consoles holds the definitive editions for everything else. The PC ports are missing the latest QOL updates/features.

>>3869508
The Grind.

>>3869542
>pic
And the funny thing is, it's not even optimized yet.
Grinding your Carnage Yggdrasil and your 3 Traps are certainly a journey.

>>3869553
if i remember correctly that allowed you to get some form of asagi, at least in the nip version

>>3869934
WAIT, i remember now, it was on Makai Senki Disgaea Portable: Tsuushin Taisen Hajime Mashita, a nip exclusive re-release that you could get an asagi through the multiplayer, in the regular release(even the US) you can get a prism ranger(awful stats if i remember), yeah

>>3869743
PC ports should be ok for some of them but results may vary. The english publisher for this series isn't known for being one of the best programmers in the industry and in fact the very oppisite. These chuckle fucks melted console CPU's back in the day so imagine letting them port games to the PC.

>>3869940
>oppisite
opposite*

In the original disgaea each and every level meant something if you get to level 9999 you fought tooth and nail for it even with the 300 Statisticians, and if you got a character that wasn't a majin up there even moreso.
with current Disgaea games getting 9999 is pretty easy, it's only when you want to max the items and stats that you hit a snag

>>3869553
>>3869936
Multiplayer VS in Disgaea sounds like ass, considering postgame stages are 1% tactics and 99% whose numbers are bigger. Though if there's some kind of equalizing effect that puts all characters at the same level, I guess it could work.

Is there any footage of the mode online? I haven't been able to find anything.

I'm on D5, and God, God. GOD. Farming your characters and gears is so ass.
Literally praying to RNG for my Carnage Traps to be cloned.

>playing Disgaea 2
>almost ready for land of carnage, wondering why I haven't unlocked Priere yet
>turns out you need to be in story chapter 1-9
>I would have to restart, clear up to chapter 10 for Laharl+Flonne, unlock and clear at least 10 dark world stages for Zetta and 25 for Baal
Fuck me man, why does such an arbitrary limit exist?

>>3870477
>I would have to restart, clear up to chapter 10 for Laharl+Flonne, unlock and clear at least 10 dark world stages for Zetta and 25 for Baal
^ to get back to where I am in my current cycle, I mean. After unlocking Priere of course.

Not to mention all cell phones I had to use and bills I had to pass to unlock Gordon and Prism Red.

>>3870468
>Is there any footage of the mode online? I haven't been able to find anything
Don't know but reading the description made it sound lazily tacked on. It was from a time when online for games was still new and everything had to have some kind of online function.

I'm about to finish 4, and I dread 5 and 6, I cannot stand Seraphina and her obsession with Killia, I adore Killia and Lieze tho, so that's my reason why... And Disgaea 6, the gameplay... I barely remember it but I think it was the wors, Disgaea 7 looks good, I hope it lives up to its (decent) hype

>>3870773
Seraphina is an hilariously weak heroine.

So I ended up buying the first game recently and I got that bad ending on Mid boss lmao...

>>3870871
Look on the bright side: you are starting to get bad endings early!

>>3870871
Mid-boss is quite the sudden difficulty spike, I would say it's the hardest spike for people playing the game normally since they won't have any good grinding spots unlocked yet. Probably one of the few instances where you'll have to use tactics over grinding. Having a few generic units really helps there, especially one with good range and a healer, and maybe some guys to just eat up damage (hopefully you didn't delete your prinnies yet).