Thread 3864443

I'm an Archer at heart. regardless of how weak the party member is I just cant resist having one or being one if its single player,

what are the best RPGs for this itch that I must scratch?

>>3864443 (OP)
TES V: Skyrim

>>3864445
agreed. once your stats are maxxed out its how its meant to be played

>>3864450
Oblivion too. Ragdolling enemies is fun

>>3864443 (OP)
Dragon's Dogma.

>>3864443 (OP)
Which RPGs don't have archers? Archers in the Pathfinder games are INSANELY, game-breakingly overpowered. The 3.PF ruleset kind of defined the modern notion of "archer"... WoW obviously had the Hunter class which was OP all the way into Wrath era (go find Warmane). Pillars Of Eternity had solidly performing archery (it's not really restricted to your class, it's just a weapon type you can choose to specialize into, but the bard and ranger classes were pretty good at it and you can gestalt them in Deadfire). If you feel that crossbows are archery (they are, by the way), then Underrail has extreme support for it as a playstyle including poisoned ammo and traps. If you feel that firearms are archery (they are, by the way) then Rogue Trader gives you immense options to be a sniper, marksman or soldier or any other kind of ranged combatant. Final Fantasy Tactics games have archers of course.

It's only really the Jrpgs that don't have archery because they don't really do tactical positioning.

>>3864475
That's cheating. Dragon's Dogma 1 and 2 are the peerless ultimate in real time action combat, so it's pointless to even mention them.

>>3864487
yes all RPGs worth their salt have archers, but not a lot of them do it well. they seem to be included because it would be rude not to

>>3864492
Ok well you still haven't explained or described what you consider to be "doing it well". What kind of game do you actually like? Top-down tactics games? First person adventure shooters? Storybooks...?

>>3864493
I'm here for your opinion, not to tell you mine. but I see Pillars of Eternity is on your list so I'll give it a try

>>3864487
>>3864497
To give an opinion about PoE archers: played your bog-standard wood elf ranger in my first playthrough. It's simple class, and having high Perception is a good attribute during dialogues.
You get your standard pet animal, which I didn't really care about. They are useful, but I was there for the archery.
During my playthrough, I had a moment of thinking "damn, my character isn't really doing much, is he?", since I was always busy micromanaging the casters. The usual stuff for these types of games. Until I checked the statistics and saw that he had like 40% of the kills.
You don't get anything overly fancy, but he's effective. Also good with gunpowder weapons.
There is the Stormcaller bow in the DLC, which is one of my favorite bows in video games. This thing fucks.

The Cipher class also makes for a good archer.

>>3864497
So we're supposed to just telepathically guess what you will enjoy? You literally cannot even summon the strength to give us a sentence about what you enjoy, but you'll spam refresh the page to instantly respond to all commenters with oh-so-arrogant terse reactions?

>>3864507
DO NOT

>>3864624
Yes, I accidentally picked the wrong image.

Didn't Arcanum had a "bug" were fire rate of your bow/gun is tied to how fast you can click? Something to do with tick rates and modern processors breaking it?
If you ever wanted a bow that shoots like a Gatling gun, that's your game.

>>3864443 (OP)
Fuck off clanker.

>>3864487
Archers suck dick in FFTactics

>>3864645
Yeah, with a bow and the skills/stats for it you could shoot a few arrows in turn based or switch to real time and become a gattling archer.

>>3864475
>be Dragon's Dogma
>have better combat than most action games out there

>>3864475
I wish DD had blood and gore so bad.

>>3864604
I'm asking what you enjoy, not asking you to guess what I enjoy, my illiterate friend.

>>3864443 (OP)
Divinity II

>>3865205
Uhhhh have you even played those games? Have you played Grimoire Of The Rift? Because archers, snipers and flintlocks can literally solo maps in hard mode.

>>3864489
>>3865227
Dragon's Dogma is just watered down Monster Hunter with grinding to make it easier. Solo Alatreon woth a sword and shield if you want real fun.

>>3865837
And don't get me wrong, there was a lot I fucking loved about Dragon's Dogma. But I had to start a new game and rush to the first drake available that would OHKO woth anything other than a scratche to give an experience close to playing Monster Hunter.

Sons of the Forest

>>3865845
>new game and rush to the first drake
>with late/endgame gear
yeah okay buddy

>>3864443 (OP)
>I'm an Archer at heart.
I'm an actual Archer.
Now don't take it as my word, I've never played it, but apparently Horizon Zero Dawn is good for scratching that itch. That's coming from fellow archers.

>>3865879
Yeah I had a big hammer but any armor was worthless at that level hence why any attack I didn't dodge other than it's scratch was instant death. It still took almost a week of day night cycles to kill it in the end where during the night I was also dealing with mobs of goblins. Try it yourself it it seems truvial. Point being... This was after I played the whole game which I found a good deal of fun but annoyingly easy compared to Monster Hunter which was my favorite series so that's what I did to try to get the same feeling. It was still nowhere near as hard as the regular Alatreon quest.

>>3865944
DD is a game where gear is infinitely more important for stats than level, and you have the weapon for beating the final boss, one of the best chest clothing items, and the torso armor that gives the highest Strength buff
bragging about doing something early but cheating some of the best gear in the game in to do it isn't impressive

>>3865956
I'm not trying to brag about it. I'm trying to explain the lengths you have to go through in that game with all it's gear and level scaling to get the similar kind of experience that Monster Hunter games (at that time) provided. There's a lot I love about Dragon's Dogma but it feels like a slightly better Skyrim where it's more of a fantasy walk in the park RPG where you're a divine badass than Monster Hunter where you are just a scrappy samurai cave man trying to kill things way more powerful than you are.

>>3865837
>>3865845
Why don't you just smash your testicles with a hammer? Play some soulsborne slop or something, anon. Some people play games to have fun. No one is impressed by your mindless masochism or vapid self-competition. Get a job or something. Gross.

>>3865969
You got called out on your bullshit and stomped hard for it, stupid little boy. Shut the fuck up. Some of us here actually have played the game. Don't try to lie like that about something so easily fact checked. It's fucking stupid.

>>3866018
>>3866020
I do play games for fun. I'm just trying to articulate why I wish Dragon's Dogma which has a lot going for it was as much fun as Monster Hunter. To me, high difficulty is fun. Insane difficultly is big fun.

>>3866020
Also, it's funny that you're claiming I somehow didn't play the game when the pic I posted was killing the drake with a weapon you only get by playing through the whole game. All I'm saying is that as much fun as Dragon's Dogma is, it's nowhere near the challenge Monster Hunter gave. Did you beat the final quest of MH3 and get you WOWIE KAZOWIE? Your opinion means very little to me if not.

Monster Hunter sucks and Dragons Dogma being a worse monster hunter explains why it also sucks

MH is overrated as fuck, but Bow was fun in World

>>3865837
Dude, dragons dogma is monster hunter for adults. Monster hunter is just over the top cartoon anime dragons dogma with little cat buddies and less Greek mythology.

The issue with dragons dogma is Capcom has no idea how good the series could actually be.

>>3866111
>The issue with dragons dogma is Capcom has no idea how good the series could actually be.
Checked. Reminds me of Battlefield. After the series’ accidental peak in BC2, the devs had to ask players “please help, what made this game good? We don’t understand or know what we are doing”

>>3866062
The conversation you butted into was about Dragon's Dogma. Not Monster Hunter. No one cares what you did that shitty game just like your achievements in kindergarten last week are irrelevant.

>>3866111
Capcom doesn't really have much experience making RPGs so they keep understaffing and underfunding DD projects. It's a classic noob trap dilemma - people who've never made an RPG always underestimate how much work they are.

>>3866062
Listen dude, it's cool that you are good at games, but if you say shit like
>Did you get your WOWIE KAZOWIE? Hmph, I bet not. I bet you don't even get that many good boy WOWIE SMOOCH SMOOCH stickers from your parents for doing your chores.
people are going to make fun of you.

You want Archers? Tactics Ogre (PS1/SNES/Saturn) says hi.

>>3866111
They are very different games, DD is a narrative driven RPG, Monster Hunter isn't really an RPG in any way other than you gather loot for better weapons like in some RPGs. As I've said repeatedly, there is a lot I like in DD, but it's way too easy. I wish it had a similar difficulty curve to MH, that's all.

>>3866155
They're made by the same company and very similar in many ways, that people got triggered by me mentioning that Dragon's Dogma was ultimately disappointing because it didn't live up to the other similar series is not my problem.

>>3864443 (OP)
My favorite party in IWD has two archers in it, extremely effective and makes positioning fun

>>3864489
I spent an hour trying to get my pawns to shut the fuck up then quit playing. :)

>>3866799
Shitposts of all kinds grow at the anons’ feet, like so many verdant children.

>>3866566
I need to replay that game very soon.

>>3866799
I wish they talked more. In particular, I think the game's next iteration needs to implement LLM AI to let you converse with your main pawn and develop their personality. It'd be so meta, and really they just have to do it at this point.

>>3864443 (OP)
Archers are stupid good in BG3

>>3864475
Not an RPG nor a particularly good game, flashy and ultimately very shallow apart from the admittedly cool climbing mechanic they cribbed from Shadow of the Colossus.

>>3864507
>>3864643
It's a shame that guns are just objectively better in the PoE games, I never find a use for the bows other than the summoned wizard bow in Deadfire.

>>3865205
its not that they suck, its that there are plenty of other ranged abilities for other classes, so they seem kind of pointless. teleport and ignore height are critical for them, because they want to get really high, and not all maps have that, so its more like the game doesn't really play into their strengths as much as it does for other classes.

>>3866799
>>3866803
how the fuck did the actual anime dub shitters from the first game do a better job then the british theatre performers from the second?

>>3867654
I don’t know, I want to buy dd2 but I won’t until they remove Denuvo. I was hoping they would after a year, but they haven’t yet. I’ve seen like three or four sales I’d bite on. Retards

>>3865837
>Dragon's Dogma is just watered down Monster Hunter with grinding to make it easier.
Turns out that's more along your typical gamer's alley, anyway. It's just that when MonHun did with recent games it's obvious dumbing down.

>>3867675
That's an oversimplification.
A game isn't better just because it's more tedious, requiring more grind and a lot of pointless frustration.
Food isn't better just because it's got more capsaicin in it.

>>3864487
I really wish Archery was more fun in Souls games

>>3867729
>Food isn't better just because it's got more capsaicin in it
When you wrote that out and sent it, surely you reread what you said and thought, "Hmm, is that really true?".

>>3864443 (OP)
Quivers are so not archer

>>3868024
What would you use to hold your arrows if not a quiver? They are, by definition, the quintessential arrow container.

The IE games do archers well, especially BG2.

>>3868153
You can't jump around with a quiver. For an archers guy you know little about archers. The most recent bond has good Archer techniques and there are plenty of modern archers on yt.

By bond I naturally mean Robin Hood.

>>3868194
Is that an archer or an acrobat?

>>3868000
You didn't do well in school. That isn't a question. I'm explaining to you that you didn't do well in school.

>>3868194
I honestly didn't know archery was about jumping around.

>>3868207
>doesn't know about punctuation
Rough deal, bub.

>>3868257
Sorry about your failure to punctuate correctly, anon.

Condescending fktards ruin this board.

Dragon Age Origins. Can roleplay as an Archer, and you can even impregnate an NPC. Wish more RPGs allowed you to impregnate your party members.

>>3864443 (OP)
Unicorn Overlord has party members and generics you can recruit, who fight with Bows or Crossbows.