Thread 3869599

What is your dream Middle Earth RPG?

>>3869599 (OP)
I can't imagine getting a better one then we got to be honest. Wish I had put more time into it then wow back then

I dont want a middle earth RPG because its intrinsically tied to Tolkien's works and i cant even overlook all the contrivances in my own dream scenario of whoever makes it not just making the elements of it some derivative of plot points or concepts from existing Tolkien media.

by the point it becomes a dream game i want to play its barely about middle earth and could be any generic setting about a warrior setting out over glades from his hometown. "Dragons Dogma 2 but good and set in New Zealand instead of a craggy, unreasonably mountainous continent" might be the closest i can describe

>>3869599 (OP)
Something like Baldur's Gate 3

>>3869599 (OP)
Something set during the twilight of the first age after the Nírnaeth Arnoediad, having to experience the encroaching darkness, interacting with all the canonical characters, while playing some non canonical character like in Shadow of Mordor.

>>3869774
That's the same problem with that dog shit Harry Potter RPG. The lore was designed for children so it's full of plot holes.

>>3869599 (OP)
I'll tell you what it's NOT. FFX where you fight the Eye of Sauron.

>>3870045
>I'll tell you what it's NOT. FFX where you fight the Eye of Sauron.
What's the matter? Gonna eye?

>>3870061
Fool of a Took. Why

>>3869774
>unreasonably mountainous continent
Mountains are real, bro. Imagine you start in France and you need to drop the ring into Vesuvius. You go south to the Alps. You can't go over the mountain and you don't want to go under it, so you go to the coast to the pass and get around them.

>>3869599 (OP)
Middle Earth is inherently antithetical to RPGs and so are the wishes of Tolkien. Video games are way too obsessed with killing and modern conventions would demand a dedicated magic class and a concrete scientific magic system which kills the whole thing. Modern players would also demand playable elves and Hobbits with nonsense video game distinctions like +1 throwing +1 hearing stats but offer no genuine difference whatsoever from playing any other race again cheapening the whole thing


Gamers would want to regularly meet with and influence core legendendarium characters and events and would want to have sex with them or to fight them or both.
The entire concept of different languages and dialects and alphabets would be ignored
The best middle earth game would just be a walking/hiking simulator. Both developers and audience lack the maturity and interest to tolerate anything else

>>3870045
>fight the Eye of Sauron.
Kino

>>3869599 (OP)
What I got from the movies is that Tolkien has a pretty clear cut hierarchy where wizards are actually super powerful angels, and both wizards and elves are just better than everyone else, and everyone is better than the lowly hobbit. Which is why it's an important part of the message that the lowly hobbit is the most capable of saving the world even though they're not the most capable in battle. This doesn't translate well to a video game. Why would I play as anything but the badass uberpowerful angel wizard or at least the elf? They would have to balance things where the hobbit gets better sneak bonuses and wizards suck at something or other, but at this point you might as well make another D&D game.

>>3870384
>hiking sim

>'Tollers fitted easily into our routine... His one fault was that he wouldn't trot at our pace in harness; he will keep going all day on a walk, but to him, with his botanical and entomological interests, a walk, no matter what its length, is what we would call an extended stroll, while he calls us 'ruthless walkers.''
(Brothers and Friends: The Diaries of Major Warren Hamilton Lewis, p.207)

>C.S. Lewis asked George if he could walk with Tolkien, “He’s a great man, but not our sort of walker. He doesn’t seem able to talk and walk at the same time. He dawdles and then stops completely when he has something interesting to say, Warnie finds this particularly irritating.” [...] Tolkien : “This is Herb Bennet, in Latin Herba Benedicta. What do you think that means? The Blessed Plant. Yes, though the English form wants it to be St. Benedict’s Herb. It is blessed because it is a protection from the devil. If it is put into a house the devil can do nothing, and if man carries it about with him, no venomous beast will come within scent of it.”

(Tolkien: A Celebration by George Sayer)

>>3869599 (OP)
>What is your dream Middle Earth RPG?
I'm a simple man, I have simple needs: Slavewhipped Hooker Hobbits and a Pipeweed Plantations staffed by ents buckbroken by a Balrog of Morgoth.