https://www.ageofempires.com/news/pre-order-age-of-mythology-retold-immortal-pillars/

Age of Mythology Retold: Immortal Pillars will release on the 4th of March. Finally, we'll get to play as China (again). Will you be playing, /vst/?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vBe-Tcehu4

Also, Retold will come to PS5 for some reason.

What the fuck, are Lu Bu and Diao Chan the villains?

>>1950455 (OP)
based

I'm a bit disappointed it's only a 9 mission campaign but I'm hoping we get some Arena of the Gods/Battles scenarios on top of this stuff at a later date
I also hope it's just good in general

>>1951030
I hope they drop arena of the gods and implement a proper multiplayer campaign

bros, is china going to be fixed?

>>1951238
Kastor is going to the rice fields...

>>1951030
I hope the campaign isn't just China vs China again, because it kinda sounds like it is.
Mostly care about them being fun and not too broken in multiplayer though, kinda wanna try them to add to my Isis one trick ponying.

>>1951756
At max they could include allied Atlanteans from the sea but anything else is a huge stretch without magic space warping travel.

>>1952961
There was a bit in the trailer where norse and egyptian temples could be seen in the background

>>1951756
At least now they have 3 chinas to pick from!

>>1950554
American hands wrote that.

>>1950455 (OP)
Yeah, I guess it had to be done. Would feel wrong leaving out something that already was made. Let's just get it over with

>>1953325
This is not the same China from the old game.

What do you think about AOM extended edition? Is it worth playing? I kinda like the old graphics better.

>>1955049
It does good. Though it feels entirely different with powers no longer being once per game.

>>1955049
I think extended is ass.

>>1955049
It's far superior to the original in most regards
One thing I love is that all myth units are worth using, which wasn't the case at all previously
That said, the colours are lesless vibrants, there's less gore, and voice acting is not that good

Guys he said Extended, not Retold
I do miss having a UI that looked like something instead of nothing
>>1952961
>magic space warping travel.
Like underworld passages?

>>1950455 (OP)
I read the description twice.

Basically Chinks 2.0 can:
-Tower Defense Spam LOL
-EcoTurtle

Does that sound right?

>>1955667
We'll have to see, though the farm god does sound potentially cancerous. They did a good job with Freyr though.

>>1955506
Can we switch back to the original voice acting?

>>1956674
With mods, yes

>>1956674
The most popular mod for the longest time has been the Original VA mod, on their own ingame mod page
But again, the first anon asked about Extended Edition, which has the original VA, Retold doesn't

>>1955049
To actually answer the question, EE is not that good and there isn't really a reason to get it over retold. It adds units to the pantheons that they were "missing", such as archer for Norse and generic melee infantry for egypt, which just makes them more samey and those units were not put into retold.

terminal silver medal shitter here, what do?

>>1957829
The tutorial doesn't count so you have 13 days to get good enough to not fuck up Omens.

>>1957829
>>1957840
How about the underworld mission after destroying the ram? Maybe that one is easy.

>>1957829
Light sleeper is the thing for you... well, in fact there are a lot of Egypt missions you could do on ludicrous

>>1957829
The true shitter method is remembering that mods don't disable achievements so you can just grab whatever overpowered mod you want and blitz a mission that way

now that the dust has settled, are any of the definitive editions of AoE/M actually better than the originals?

https://www.ageofempires.com/news/the-four-perils-of-the-immortal-pillars/

New critters.
Please say something nice about them.

>>1958978
We shall conquer many things with the cosmic void. It's got both a fear effect and temp banish. I'll feel like playing War3 again!

>>1958984
Why is it so cute

>>1958991
this fucking creacher is a convicted felon

>>1958787
They genericised the civs in AoEM DE too much. Different civs needed to choose their gods to maxmise their advantages vs their disadvantages. DE just meant they play the same like AoE.
Even in AoE, the civs all play the same patch-based meta.

12 days left or so, so does anyone have any idea on how I could farm all the event's profile pics faster?

>>1959582
I've done most of the challenges in Ironwood, that map that has a treeline between you and the enemy
Not that Standard AI puts up much of a fight

>>1959584
Oh, and most of these events can be done in Deathmatch with infinite resources so there's really nothing stopping you
And you can use mods to do stuff

>>1958280
this , the OP priest mod is bassicaly made for shiiters like that
>cost nothing at temple
>can spawn anything
>can spam meteor summon
im even surprised that mod is even allowed to exist

>>1957829
From my experience the Titan Mission with all the Vaults should be the easiest. Rush to capture the Vaults, hold them and build up a huge army with reinforcements or buildings- and then find the path of least resistance to snipe off Melagius.

The fights should be harder, but the solution remains the same.

>The Taowu’s Charge special ability increases its speed for a short time, knocking enemy units out of its path
A legit Cavalry Charge unit?
And not those crappy cavalry units that prance up to the army and then attack while stationery.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0MuX3t2Io50

>>1958978
>Classic Age offensive flier
Place your bets on how cancerous this is going to be

>>1959582
I like to play the Tiny skirmish map over and over to farm most challenges.

>>1958787
AoEDE is about the same (which isn't really a good thing)
AoE2DE is an improvement
AoE3DE is a bit of a downgrade
AoMR is an upgrade (especially compared to EE)

>>1960167
>AoE3DE is a bit of a downgrade
HOW?

>>1960167
All of them are objectively downgrades.
The good ones just happen to provide some value of their own, even if they do so with the quality of an indie project outsourced to India.
The bad ones don't even have that, just improved assets and fuck all else.

>>1960168
Not a real downgrade but it has some muttpozzed elements like removing fire pits, the word 'colony' in all its forms, and a chat filter that won't let you say 'French' or 'Dutch'

>>1960177
>chat filter that won't let you say 'French' or 'Dutch'
I don't believe you.

>>1960168
TWC Act 2 (Shadow) was completely butchered.

>>1952961
I remember listening to a one man black metal synth opera a decade ago that was based on a conspiracy theory that the Jotuns form Norse myth were actually Japanese people that the norse allegedly met while travelling.
From Japan China isn't really that far, although you can't forget your tinfoil hat.

>>1960167
lots of power creep/ gimmicks in AoE2DE. They should have a legacy balance playlist.

>>1950455 (OP)
AI slop cover art looks like it's made for a cheap chinese android gacha

>go on a good run of wins
>lose 3 in a row
>repeat

https://www.ageofempires.com/news/the-auspicious-beasts-of-the-immortal-pillars/

Even more new critters.
Please say something nice about these as well.

>>1960206
They should have improved it, but nothing of value was lost. AoE3 had an infamously shitty campaign to begin with.

>>1960206
it really takes the teeth out of chayton's participation in the colonial project when he kills a bunch of random bandits instead of slaughtering his fellow lakota wholesale

>>1960168
chuds have a melty over "shitskin nigger shit eater" being renamed to "indian tomahawk thrower". Also OOGA CHAKA OOGA OOGA OOGA CHAKA firepit dances being replaced by a normal town center without the dancing. This is "pozzed" somehow

>>1965541
Why would they be embarrassed of their own culture? Are the people who bitched about it privileged urbanite white women as is often the case with these sorts of things?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vqcx1DwLrt4

>>1965339
海軍陸戰隊 intensifies
Salem class intensifies

>Chinese Dragon that does not breathe fire
Should have lightning powers but I will take it

>>1965541
It must be such a burden for you having to get offended over nothing on behalf of all those natives, white man

>>1965339
An amphibious unit sounds like it'd get annoying but by the Mythic Age you've at least got the tools to deal with it
This is all pretty neat so far, I think all we're missing is two myth units from the classical age as far as these previews go

>>1965786
>An amphibious unit sounds like it'd get annoying
Agreed, the War Salamander from EE was beyond annoying. At least the turtle is going to be very slow on land.
>all we're missing is two myth units from the classical age
Yeah, the Yazi and the Qilin. But there's also the dragon fish creature (probably the Chiwen) left. I'm confident it will end up being the Heroic age naval myth unit.

>>1965835
I want the Dutch to be called by their historical name, Jewish Scum.

should have bitten the bullet and revamped pathing from the ground up if they were going to deviate from the original anyway

>>1966343
You mean the marching in formations thing?
I don't find it that bad one you get used to it.

>>1967643
nah, formations are ok
combat pathing sucks ass tho

I hate that they've made A-move zero-in on villagers

I've been playing AoM since it came out and I hate retold.
I did enjoy AoE2 DE and AoE 3 DE looks cool even if I only ever played the original, but they removed all of the soul of AoM.
I hate the new VA with the shitty "authentic" accents, since they're either ESL struggling to speak in English anyway or English natives trying to sound like an ESL. Also all of the new VA have the same feel where they can't show any emotion or be loud, it's like they're recording their lines in a library.
They also removed all the colour of the original and I hate this modern trend of smoothing out assets and removing light contrast because even if objectively the newer assets are higher quality, they look worse because they lack grit.
They also seem to have screwed with the balance to make the game appeal more to fans of other games in the franchise or other franchises.
What they also did with the original portraits by replacing them entirely with completely different ones only to sale shitty upscales of the original ones as DLC also sucks. Couldn't they have traced and extended the originals instead?
If you like Retold feel free to let me know why I'm wrong since I've never actually played it, but I saw too many red flags on the store page and no commentary videos alone.
I'm still carrying around the Gold edition on several USB sticks because it's near impossible to find, I understand it's not supported anymore but I wish they'd just dump the original games on GOG or whatever.
People suck off AoE 2 DE as the GOAT of remakes, but I don't believe that's true since by this point it has a bunch of content that outright replaces things in the original game, and there's no easy way of actually getting the original (HD doesn't count).
Right now you can only buy the scuffed extended edition which is no longer supported or Retold, which is a different game. I also hate ecelebs sucking the game off, since I know for a fact most of them didn't actually play the original.

>>1969699
> I hate this modern trend of smoothing out assets and removing light contrast
Agreed
> They also seem to have screwed with the balance to make the game appeal more to fans of other games in the franchise or other franchises.
Balance was shit in the original: very few myth units were worse using, many gods were unpickable in a competitive setting

>>1969818
True enough, I was thinking more of the extra units than balance changes by themselves.
Both Retold and any AoE DE should have "legacy" modes if that makes sense.
It's really jarring how poorly received some remasters are compared to the one C&C got, which changed nothing in terms of actual gameplay, with many of those poor reviews complaining about how nothing got changed, when in my opinion those are fine if priced accordingly.
I don't oppose new content, but I hate when your only option is to play a version so far removed from the original.
There's a place for both and there's virtually no reason that a new release could not introduce changes and deviations but either make them optional or purely qol additions (like unit queue in the C&C remaster).
Software preservation is important to me, and AoM retold is too much of a Theseus ship thing to me, where they kept replacing things to the point where it feels like it's not the same thing as it once was and there's no easy way to have a "purist" experience.
The ideal way to do it (in my mind at least) would be the legacy "base" that just upgrades the engine/ ports the game etc., with options for QOL added, balance changes for multiplayer only (so campaigns don't get affected) and then releasing 4K assets as free DLC and the new supported game mode with expansions being it's own app/ launcher setting/ whatever.
Then release the original with some compatibility fixes as freeware or discounted price, then make the original game engine open source.
That way everyone should be happy.

Update just dropped
Some of the China relics look neat

>>1969866
Shouldn't be too hard to fiddle with the stats and make a mod for it

>>1969818
>Very few myth units were worth using
Getting PTSD from near every match being Hades.

>>1965541
>OOGA CHAKA OOGA OOGA OOGA CHAKA firepit dances
Soul

>you can play as Chinese early if you go into scenario editor and change your civ through a trigger

>>1971033
Just tried FuXi, holy fuck they're overpowered as shit.

>>1971129
Sasuga 300%

>>1971129
>fuxi himself is good
>he gets none of the cool myth units
every time

>>1971129
>>1971129
can't offend our Chinese overlords with a lackluster opening week, can we?

>>1971129
EE all over again?

Checking their tech tree, it seems that every Minor Chinese God has four upgrades except 1 who only has three.
Considering that there are still some Minor Gods with only two upgrades like Tyr, Baldr, & Hel (RIP Norse), got to love that power creep.

>>1972067
What could they add to the other gods to bring them up to par?

>devs remove greek age 2 ranged heroes for too strong
>but have no problem with chinese having a multiple explorer- hero with ranged attack
bunch of clowns, the game deserves to die

>Egyptian myth units
>Tons of different animals and hybrids
>Simple abilities, no gimmicks

>Chinese myth units
>Tiger, Winged Tiger, burly Tiger, black Tiger, manface Tiger, Dragon, Dragon
>Everyone summons earthquakes and teleport behind u

I wasn't looking forward for the DLC at all but now I'm not even going to bother seeing gameplay videos lol
Still playing original AoM.

>can't kill pandas because China won't allow it
I do hope someone will make mod to let you kill the fuckers.

>>1972067
>>1973339
Norse is already the strongest pantheon in the game, lol.

>>1973542
Can't believe we didn't get any terracotta soldiers even though Egypt has mummies. Clay villagers don't count.

>>1973944
You can summon terracotta guys from your town center as a defense,like Egypt mercs

>Qinglong
> Unleashes damaging blasts of water from the air.
That is wrong... Qinglong is linked with the Wuxing Wood element. The Trigrams associated with wood in the east direction is “Zhen” (Thunder) and Xun(Wind).

1. How's the campaign? Is it a completely separate affair, or do characters from the original AoM appear?
2. Why is it only 9 missions?

>>1969818
Agreed. Hydras and Scyllas couldn't achieve in both the original and extended their true potential since Greeks have no healing unless you pick up Athena for her one-use restoration or Apollo in place of Dionysus.
Retold gives these two myth units an upgrade that allows them to regenerate.

>>1974223
Retold also made it a lot easier for them to get extra heads.

>>1973554
https://slate.com/technology/2012/10/prehistoric-humans-ate-panda-what-do-panda-bears-taste-like.html
They actually were eaten. I'm gonna have to dig in more to see if people between the Shang to Three Kingdoms period ate pandas. I assume they would have. Internecine conflicts and sieges would have caused starvation and famine.

>>1972020
Fuxi is instatech
Nuwa is instawall and instabuild

I want to see who is more cancerous.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M16jOVC5kpA
We need a campaign v Typhon.

A Mega Titan who needs at least 5 titans to take down.

>>1974285
If not full campaigns I'd love to see more Mythic Battles or Arena of the Gods scenarios based on actual myths and legends
Maybe you'd end up with more Greek and maybe Norse campaigns than the other civs but I wouldn't mind that

>>1950455 (OP)
Scumbag strat to finish War of Titans. Made Kronos Rage Quit.

>>1974441
KWABnos

>>1974442
Took me a few attempts to make the Gaia Tree Wall work. The first time I tried it I decided to wall off the entire Kronos base (Big Solution)...only to make my game crash cause it didn't trigger the countdown. So then I went for the Small Solution you see in screenshot.

One thing I did notice about the Big Solution was that the Kronos AI did task villagers to start cutting down the trees I had planted in front of the gates. Just one villager at first, but when they were close to breaking through it tasked multiple villagers in to assist for the final push. When a hole was made it immediately sent an army through.

So theoretically the AI knows how to break a tree wall. It just can't apply that same solution OUTSIDE it's base.

>>1974188
1. It's an upgrade from the Extended Edition (which isn't saying much), which boils down to "immortal hero loses his mortal waifu and goes mad trying to destroy the Pillars of Eternity all rights reserved").
2. Probably due to today's shitty standards of making RTS games.

What's the AI difficulty on these Celestial Challenges?
t. shitter

Are they going to kill every single game in the franchise with subpar DLCs and reworks?
Literally the only thing I want at this point is a rerelease of the originals on GOG and they can fuck off.
Releasing the source code is also a dream but it's not gonna happen.

>>1974635
I mean it happened for Command and Conquer

>Mission where you go to the underworld and it's all underworlds mixed together because of everything that's happening
Alright that's based

So Greeks has still no healing option other than Athena and Apollo?

>92% of players are sub-dogshit tier
you hate to see it

>>1974981
>2025, I am forgotten and banished to EE jail

China's myth units except for the worker giant are all lanky or hefty animals, no huamnoids like dryads, mummies, giants or minotaurs.

>>1975002
Maybe they just didn't bother?

>>1975007
I wouldn't mind if EE units were added to the scenario editor just for fun

>>1975002
>>1975098
Having just won the latest one twice, getting the little diamond so it apparently registered those wins, then getting zero score on both, I'm pretty sure it's bugged
Did get 18% on the very first one, too

>>1974981
they are kinda designed that way

Verdict on the Chinese factions?

>>1975618
Fun.

Now the question at hand is which civ will come in the next DLC? Chinese were predictable, but which part of the world and mythology will they tackle next?

>>1975727
Mesoamerica.

>>1975618
Campaign was pretty mid but I liked it. Nowhere near as much as the FOTT. The only really cool mission was the underworld one. None of the heroes actually had a character maybe besides Houyi because literally the first thing he says and the first thing said about him is just who he is. The Gods are really fun to play though, I’ll have a lot of fun trying them out in normal play.
>>1975727
Super hope Mesopotamia since that is personally the most interesting and I think you can make the most out of it since it’s the last major ancient religion with considerable amounts of information on them left. People otherwise keep saying Japanese, Celts, Hindus and Mesoamericans which I’m not too fond of. If I couldn’t have Mesopotamians I would be alright with Mesoamerica though, the others suggested are just kinda dumb

>>1975727
Whichever is the cheapest and easiest to do. So Celts or Japanese.
You can feed the players whatever and they won't complain.
You can steal ideas from AoEO to make the civ design.
There's bound to be a billion people who can draw Japanese or Celtic shit compared to some weird apparations from Mesoamerica or the largely alien Mesopotamian shit.

>>1975780
I liked how Ajax, Setna, Brokk and Eitri briefly returned to lend a hand. Compared to Tale of the Dragon I liked that bit that connected the FOTT/NA with the POTG.
I just wonder how they ended up in the underworld and how did they went back home.

>>1975816
Anon...
How do you think people reach the underworld most of the time?

>>1975727
In a cool world?

The Abrahamic religions

>>1975806
Problem with celts and japanese is that they visually share too much with norse and Chinese respectively

>>1975727
Meso only.
Mesopotamian or Mesoamerican.

Freyer was a mistake
My OCD is killing me

>>1975727
Give me Sumeria or Aztecs/Maya
Maybe Persia for a Persia/Greek campaign
Hindus and Abrahamic would be cool but it'll never happen
>>1975816
Ajax was famous for killing himself, though considering how events played out ingame he probably avoided that fate and died somewhere else
Maybe Loki finally got his revenge on Brokkr and Eitri, though they could've just dug too deep and fallen in because they're dwarves

>>1975970
There's ways to distinguish them. This feels like a lazy complaint to me.

kek

>>1976573
Outside the first day, my games for those celestial challenges haven't been scoring for whatever reason.

>>1974228
And made Titans viable too.
Who knew they'd take the walking through water from that one EE mod and apply it in Retold for Titans...

>>1975967
notice how gods in game are all from classical/ancient civilizations, and not modern ones. If you made a game where you could kill vishnu and other jeet gods, you'd end up with a PR disaster at best and a diplomatic incident at worst
>that time AoE2 Conquerors devs accidentally dared to name Sea of Korea as Sea of Japan and gave the US ambassador a lot of trouble and seethe meetings

didnt see this thread. posted a comparison about extended vs the original in the other thread if anyones interested >>1976871

>>1955506
>It's far superior to the original in most regards

it has better shadows for sure but see the pics for yourself

>>1976886
90% of the people replying to that post were talking about Retold, not EE.

>>1975002
Imagine if only the top 8% played RTS games, the genre would be in a golden age without all the shitters

>>1976814
Is a good think that those whinning retarded people had more power and rights that us, uh?
(Not that you whinnin of being fat looser who hates CEOs and AAAs for pretending to be cool nowdays doesn´t help either...).

>Be Shennong
>King of the Hill
>Take the point
>Drop a bunch of instabuild farms on it
>Bless them
>Sit around doing nothing for the remainder of the countdown
I think I know why this daily had a higher average score

>>1976913
If I am in the top 8% then the shitters are already inside the building.

>>1976913
Because nothing saved the RTS genre like a focus on e-sports and hyper competitive play among the same dozen people the first time

>>1977297
>t. bottom 92%

>>1977262
The score is bugged.

>>1977311
>t. didn't learn anything from the past two decades of RTS' downfall
Don't become a developer
Or worse, a shareholder

>>1975963
Bullshit, we saw Ajax and the dwarves pull the stunt in the Fall of the Trident.

>>1955667
>>1955843
LEL and as expected.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aB3pLqNGgVc

Anyway trying to do a funny in Arena of the Gods. Didn't work cause I forgot to fall back but I'll try again.

>>1977317
So you chose to kys then.

>>1977317
>"I´m no part of the problem, I swear" comment

Just a quick question about Age of Mythology - are patches implemented retroactively onto existing saves?

>>1979166
troy happened thousands of years BC, the three kingdoms happened a few hundred years AD. I at least interpreted as them being dead and helping out

>>1950455 (OP)
GREAT NEWS FOR ZEUS MAINS

https://greekreporter.com/2025/03/10/first-ancient-greek-temple-after-1700-years-opens-arcadia/
>First Ancient Greek Temple in 1,700 Years Opens in Arcadia
>After 1,700 years the first ancient Greek temple opened in Arcadia, Peloponnese over the weekend. Hundreds of people attended the inauguration ceremony of the temple which was built for liturgical purposes and not as a museum.
>The temple is dedicated to Zeus, Dionysus, and Pan, while a statue of the latter is housed inside. The rituals that took place during the inauguration were dedicated to these gods.

>>1980795
The entire mythical age in Greek myths is completely nonsensical, timeline wise. Heracles, who thought titans and Typhon, despite having the lifespan of a regular human, lived close enough to the siege of Troy that Iolaos partook in it, albeit as an old man.

So 90% of the events of Greek mythology took place within the span of some 60-80 years. It isn't supposed to make sense.

what went wrong

>>1980998
China is fucking broken. At least their campaign is fun.
My big hope is when they get properly tuned people will come back.

>>1975780
How are they dumb? All of those suggestions have plenty of lore and interesting design.

I feel like if you pick the same god as your opponent, you'll get more score in those celestial challenges.

>>1980795
I don't think that's Lu Bu and Diaochan in the chinese campaign, anon....

>>1980998
RTS players really just want to play Brood War and/or AoE2 forever.

Did anyone else kind of struggle with the last two Chinese Mission due to the colours?
Navigating around felt a bit difficult due to Chinese Red & Yellow aesthetic just blending into the orange background & atmosphere.

>>1980987
>Having the lifespan of a regular human
He was a literal demigod and ascended as a God after his death by hydra venom. The fuck is this regular human lifespan?

>>1981153
are they more or less broken compared to EE?

>>1980998
AoM isn't a very good multiplayer game. Once people finish the campaigns there's zero reason to play.

>>1981153
>China gains favor by connecting the buildings radius
>bigger radius, faster favor
>also we get super villagers
What the fuck were they thinking?

>>1981427
Children of the gods with mortal women didn't have an extended lifespan, and grew old just as a normal human did.

>>1981504
It's a very good multiplayer game actually. Just not currently with broken chinese.

>>1981564
I actually don't hate the kuafu since the normal peasants are bad, so they are incentivized to reinvest favor into eco. I even think the minor gods having a ton of techs each is fine because, theoretically, the favor is needed in lots of places.

That being said, there is absolutely some fine tuning to be done.

>>1980957
This is kind of pathetic no? I am all for Whites supporting our true roots but they are wearing nice guy white shirts as if they were part of the Christian church, not only that they choose a Goddess (God?) pan whatever who is a no name nobody, not a God who truly emphasized the power of the Greeks or whatever, I personally never heard of Pan, heck. I imagine less than 1% of Whites in Europe know who Pan is, what next? a lesbian temple for Artemis that has statues of her lesbiab nymphs?

>>1982516
>Casual Ancient Hellenism fan learns where the word 'sapphic' originates from.

>>1982573
>>1982516
Honestly, the only pathetic thing about it is the quality of the 'temple' itself, not so much the intention. No clue how much funding to these guys actually have.
Pan was often assosiated with Dyonisus and Zeus in the mystery cults, although his worship was rather performed in caves or grottos, Pan being a god of the wilds, shepherds and fertility/masculine virility overall.

>>1982516
>I personally never heard of Pan

>>1982516
>I personally never heard of Pan
Then you're a fucking imbecile. Why should anyone cater to you?

>>1980957
How can it be an ancient Temple if it's opened in 2025?

>>1982253
I actually have not used the Kuafus for attack. Still need to do that. Might try the Tower Rush before the inevitable nerf.

But I have used them to take over bases.

>>1979292
I ended up doing it. Though I'm convinced I only won against

>Wonder Age opponent

Cause the AI was dumb and didn't know what to do in Wonder Age.

>>1982516
Anyone who has read The Histories or even had cursory glimpses of ancient texts would have 'heard' about Pan, you fucking secondary. I bet you never even read or listened to Machen's "The Great God Pan" story before.

Shut the fuck up.

>>1983488
>Anyone who has read The Histories or even had cursory glimpses of ancient texts
you don't even need to go that far, the dude gets mentioned in a lot of mythology related media

>>1983587
Hell, you could just read about the marathon run and probably see it too.

>imagine being on mongolian basketweaving forum and not knowing one of the few pre indo european gods that are truly european

>>1984573
You forgot your pic.

>>1984573
It's weirder to be in an Age of Mythology without having even a cursory knowledge of mythology, especially any of the ones featured in game
Weird to think how many autistic obsessions I might've avoided if I didn't get that copy of Age of Mythology from a cereal box when they used to do that

>>1984573
The Aryans are from Europe too anon

>>1985030
They were from Asia, gradually migrating toward Europe until fully invading it. Europeans are fated to constantly be invaded and replaced by hordes of people from Asia.

>>1982575
>>1980957
There's nothing wrong about small shrines or temples. Hopefully this leads to them restoring more sites like the Acropolis, at least the Parthenon anyway.

>>1985497
Never gonna happen. Greeks love their bleached white ruins, and besides the Greek Government doesn't even have money for restoring modern public transportation, much less restoring ancient architecture.

dead game because no autoqueue in ranked lol

>>1980998
no autoqueue in ranked

Total chinese death

What mythological 'made-up' civilizations like Atlanteans exsist that you would add to the game?

>>1987514
Lemuria. Mu. Atlan.

now that the dust has settled, are the Chinks better?

>>1988131
Than they were in EE? Sure, but that's not a very high bar. They were barely functional there.

what was the point of Arena of the Gods?

>>1988388
To me, it seems to be a sequel to the original storyline.

Kastor is back (again) and he is trying to stop Kronos break out of Tartarus (again).

Reddit rumours the 4th Atlantean God(dess) is Nyx.

>>1988625
if so, it was laughably bad

>>1988388
The halfway attempt to get player retention between campaigns/mythic battles and daily challenges
I genuinely don't get what their difficulty is with fleshing any of that shit out, other than I guess fear of backlash over lazy content
>These next pages are about [Hero] from [Civ] fighting [Evil God/Villain], and you get these bonuses for it to use in AotG and daily challenges
I'm more annoyed about Mythic Battles, but at least there I understand that they're handcrafted so there's some effort involved

>>1988196
That's because of the patches. Early on they were fucking awful in the other direction. The problem is that they were so binary either they dominate or get fucked.

>Lightning rules
>Prometheus' Secret Titan Gate
>Nuwa
>Place Titan Gate on Favoured Land
>Train the Hero Kuafu, set him to help build the double auto building Titan Gate
>Have a Titan in under 2 minutes

>40k score
Man fuck you videogames

https://www.ageofempires.com/news/age-of-mythology-retold-update-18-12962/
Nerf is here.

>>1982516
>I personally never heard of Pan

>>1990554
I guess daily challenges don't encourage speedrunning because I did the same strat, managed to get out a Titan before anyone hit Heroic, and got a whopping 13k score because I guess time bonus doesn't mean as much as any other metric

daily challenges are meaningless to me because i don’t care enough to shuffle my mods on and off to play them

>>1990554
>>1992296
>>1992296
I got to 78k by waiting until Heroic to attack. Then the game dragged on for another 30 minutes cause I kept mindlessly zerg rushing piece meal into Freyr's Hill Forts...with no strat, no micro other than to break the base's defense with my Titan. And Freyr kept throwing in Pigs and Dragons.

So yeah. I don't think Regicide calculates your score by how fast you win.

Maybe, it is calculated by how fast you snipe the Regent on top of how many buildings you break?

It's a crime that Fuxi, the chinese god with the most focus on Barracks/Infantry units does not have access to the chinese minor gods Rushou

>>1993629
... Why are the Chinese at the top of the list? It doesn't make sense in any way. Not alphabetical, not order of release, not even "Real to Myth" order.

>>1985042
No they weren't. They were from what's now Ukraine. Do you know where Asia is? It's east of the Ural Mountains and Caspian Sea.

>>1987514
Agartha

>>1994834
Why is that a problem in specific?
Like who cares if the chinese are on top of the list

>>1994842
I do. Why are the Chinese on the top of the list? Why can't the list be organized?

>>1994847
This is a non-issue.
You are literally the only one upset by this.

>>1994849
Appeal to triviality

>>1994851
Nobody cares.

>>1994853
I care so you're objectively wrong. You seem to really care too.

>>1994854
>I care so you're objectively wrong
You dont exist

>>1994855
Perhaps that which terrifies us the most is when we realize we are no longer the dreamer, but a segment of the dream, able to be lost in an instant when the dreamer awakes.

>>1994856
Anon wake up you have been in a coma for 3 the last weeks, your family is worried for you
Stop dreaming about AoM and wake up

>>1994834
Because it's DLC and Atlanteans were released 22 years ago
The eye is naturally drawn to the top of a list so you see the DLC factions that they want you to buy first
It's not hard

>>1994834
Either to appease the chinese as being on the top or to shove the new DLC in your face to get you to buy it. Or both.

I lost 70 elo today. It was not a good day.

how hard is it to mod this game?

is the reward for each 5 days of the challenges of grey quality for you guys too , i just wanna know if its linked to score or something

>>1995013
i mean, they're both terrible answers, but if we accept this and say this game was in fact made by a team of monkeys with red paint and a typewriter, this explanation is the superior one

Gonna do another game report because I just had a crazy one. (unfortunately eggy vs eggy again)

I scouted my save tc having 0 resources nearby so I decided to take the forward one, which secures me a lot of food and also some gold. I know I'm not spotted by the obelisk and I get to pick up his Wadjet for free as he tries to kill mine.

>>1999263
As his Wadjet falls, I see hi taking a tc right next door, so I get ready for a spicy game.

>>1999265
While walking around to scout my Priest finds him building a Market, confirming to me he's going for a fast heroic, meaning I can do the same without fear.

>>1999271
Due to my opponent utilizing market macro and making farms instead of hunting I get up faster and decide to place a very aggressive migdol to deny his gold.

>>1999282
I use ancestors + eclipse together with my sphinx and scorpion man to bully my opponent, while making the migdol. However I don't notice him getting up at that same moment and even worse I don't even notice him using locust on my villagers and they all die. A couple seconds later I look at my migdol and get confused why there's only a lone Pharao there.

>>1999288
Fortunately my ancestors and myth units do enough damage back to him to equalize the eco, but it's hard to keep track of stuff like that, so all that I know is I suddenly have a lot less vills than I wanted to have. He also does get up his own migdol at the same time and a siege works that in theory I should have seen. I instead decide to continue on for a fast mythic though, since I have a lot of res in the bank and eggy vs eggy matchups kinda feel like a race to mythic to me, for the Osiris camel riders.
Surely the siege works can just be ignored...

>>1999290
With 2 well positioned Migdols, good map vision, camel production started and Osiris on the way I'm feeling pretty good, when suddenly...

>>1999296
My Osiris comes in... as usual just in time for all my army being dead and my production buildings destroyed.

>>1999299
I scramble to get a new migdol up and somehow defend at my tc but he's producing faster and his camels are significantly stronger than mine due to Ra and Sobek buffs.

>>1999307
I don't die thanks to soo micro and a well timed mummy, but my tc falls, while my opponent even manages to sneak in a third. Economically I am in shambles now, but I did manage to sneak out champion camels and aim for desert wind next so I can take advantage of my tech. I also manage to get 2 migdols up to finally spend my res, but I'm still feeling bad at this point in the game with 1 tc and a lot of vills dead.

>>1999310
I don't have enough army for an attack on a tc, but I am stable and my obelisk reveals villagers on a gold mine. Knowing from my own experience the pain of playing eggy without gold I instantly send camels there and on the way they reveal yet another soft goldmine of villagers.

>>1999313
The chaos has begun. Now it is my opponent that's struggling to produce, despite his huge villager advantage. Somehow one of my villagers also ended up there so I decide to start a tower (it doesn't do anything).

>>1999316
At the same time his front is also collapsing. He has a tc and a migdol that I can't break yet, but his villagers are not save.

>>1999318
I didn't realize it until my opponent resigned, but at this point the game is pretty much over, with my opponent having no army, worse tech and no good way of mining gold there's nothing left for him. It's kinda easy to see with the army graphs in the replay, but after I lost the tc I legit thought I was lost. I think getting the 3rd tc instead of first adding more migdols was a big blunder by my opponent, because that made it so he couldn't produce. I find eggy macro really hard with the current patch where migdols cost 500, due to the huge upfront cost of the production, so I can sympathize, but I guess we all just gotta get gud. It feels great to win a game like this where it's on knives edge and you feel like you've lost but then you win! (elo was 1380s)

you compfags are so weird

I'm not weird, you're weird.

>>1999321
We should 1vs1 again sometime, Isischad

>>1999621
Sure, whenever I have time and energy.

Clash of Immortals tournament is happening if any of you guys is interested
https://www.twitch.tv/egctv
https://www.twitch.tv/iamboit

How do I change the chinky version of the title theme back to the original? I don't even have that DLC.

Wow, for the Celestial Challenges you don't even have to bother as you can immediately resign and still get the diamond.

>>2004428
That's a good thing. Imagine locking content behind "challenges" where players need to slog through entire boring skirmish games against shitty Standard AI every day. The leaderboard is still there for the autists to compete for the highest numbers on.

That's not a Titan

THIS IS A TITAN!

The fucking original voices mods broke with today's update. Can't play until it's fixed, and now I am upset.

>>2004603
>current /r9k/ when the onions' reinforcements come in

So have they announced the other four 4th Major gods yet?

>>2005447
Just play the original game for the campaign. It still runs fine and it not only sounds but also looks much better thanks to the superior art style.

I can see why some people are quitting Celestial. Found out the Moderate AI, and it will always be moderate, only advances when (you) advance- and this can be cheese'd.

Don't advance when you have a temple and the resources but instead build up an army of whatever archaic unit is available. Then send them into the enemy base to shut down EVERYTHING. Only when the villagers are all huddled up in towers or their Centres do you advance. And then when you're at Classical finish them off while stopping any attempts to start military productions.

Works best with archers.

Did we ever get any hints as to what is going to be next DLC faction? Also, what happened to all the DLC deities we were supposed to be getting? So far, we only have Freyr as the fourth Norse god.

>>2005740
See >>1988683

>>2004603
Scaling Bug removed but devs considering making it a permanent feature with a cheat.

Might replay Atlantis Final then with MEGA MOMMY.

Alright fe;;as, i gotta know.

Is it worth replaying the campaigns (and getting this shitter game again) in retold or should i just stick with EE.

>>2009408
>fe;;as

Another exploit to win Celestial, King of the Hill only. Build whatever Archaic Units you have (meaning you have adv if Norse, Egyptian or Chinese), send to rush shades, just don't advance.

Your score will probably be shit though.

>>2009233
I'd rather like it as a toggle in options

>>1980957
Cute little future Kurdish mosque

>>2012481
Yes I agree Turkey must be split between Hellas, Armenia and Kurdistan

>>2005738
>>2011849
Yeah your score tends to be awful if you do that, I've managed to get one in the 4 digits instead of even low 5s
If you're playing Norse you get Ulfsarks from the start so you can rush even harder

>>1988388
I believe that internally Arena of the Gods was part of the pitch for AOM:R to create better player retention. It's first mention was a new game mode to come with the game's launch. It wasn't making their production timeline so they pushed it back, but the idea of its value remained the same.

My 2 cents it that RTS is at its best in PvP so they should just do whatever they can to slide players into that pool.

>>1980998
nothing wrong with those numbers.
>>1981153
A month ago yes they were broken. Ever since the first balance patch after Chinese DLC, they're actually underperforming. They certainly aren't easy to play.
>>1981326
Nobody outside of Korea actually plays Brood War. In terms of RTS games, AOM:R is doing great.
>>1981504
AOM might be one of the greatest multiplayer RTS games of all time. Just too few people like RTS games. There's no gambling, it doesn't make a good group with friends game, no team to blame of your loss on, and it's demanding in both knowledge and mechanics.
>>1985810
Technically if there was an actual flood of new players who liked autoqueue in ranked they have the option to play with autoqueue on in ranked. In reality there just aren't enough new players for them to match each other. So I don't think "no autoqueue in ranked because everyone currently playing wants it off" is to blame.

How the fuck is anyone countering Labyrinth Minotaurs other than hoping their opponent is a mouthbreathing retard?

>>2016035
Which faction are you looking for tips for?

>>2016234
Norse

>>2016250
>Maek Hessirs
>Kill puny bulls

>>2016550
>Hersir
>Mino run past because faster
>kills your stuff anyway
>can 1v1 a Hersir even
>bulldozes your army
https://youtu.be/BTE0HG4JT8k?t=2052

>>2016588
>1v1
mass them, outnumber them, keep your dudes close to your important stuff so they have to take the fight if they want to kill your vils

>>2016588
>1v1 Hersir
Why are you 1v1ing? You should have a mix, and between unit upgrades you'll beat them out overall.

I quit when I got Nuwa tower rushed every game into great flood. Has it gotten better after the patch?

They should add the Abrahamic God to the mythologies, where the pantheon is Jew God, Christian God and Allah. It would be kino

>>2016783
>one run pasts 2 hersir, dunks on some vils, runs away with 75% hp because they're 20% faster
>>2016784
>why are you 1v1ing
cause Hersir cost 120 resources and 24 seconds to train and Minotaur cost 150 resources and 15 seconds to train. Since Hersir aren't more than a tickle in a 1v1, then whatever ratio they build Minotaur to normal units at Norse is stuck building more Hersir in ratio to normal units at, then they click restoration and landslide the fight.

>>2016846
Yeah they nerfed great flood and tower rushers got hardwalled past the noob ranks and gave up. Chinese all have sub 50% winrates now because they're hard to play.

What's the best campaign in your opinion?

>>2016955
Going to assume you are playing Odin Since Hersirs pay for themselves with their free unit spam with Loki rushes and Thor has free healing.
I'll admit I'm not as familiar with Odin anti-myth tactics to really give good advice there.

>>2016955
>>2017056
I can help.
If Norse with access to Forsetti, pick Forsetti. Economically oriented classical advance and get the Hall of Thanes upgrade ASAP by not shooting your hunt with your town center (deprives you of favor) and eating your chickens early for the favor. Might even be worth knifing a herdable or two if necessary. The later economic advance is fine, you need the extra resources to afford to defend yourself anyway. Good building placement, wall segments, and tower upgrade, garrison and micro are going to make it work.

Don't fall for the bait of making Throwing Axemen for hoplites. Sandbag with wall segments and buildings, use the Great Hall units. Threatening "counter raids" with Raiding Cavalry is a key check. Hersir are obvious- what isn't as obvious is the critical need to get the armory upgrades for the Hersir before they have to do any real fighting. Armor upgrades are 15% for heroes instead of 10%. Anyway, these are all fast units with higher HP pools that can pull back and heal up chip damage.
The big make or break is finding opportunity to setup a defensive position on a second goldmine. That's why the Raiding Cavalry are critical; if Zeus/Hades is just swinging around a wrecking ball you'll never get an opportunity to plant the fortifications necessary to buffer the unga-bunga they're going to do on the second goldmine. Towers and the Village Center is being slept on here. Get a goldmine with a Town Center covering it, then adding buildings, walls, and towers, then good. If you don't have a good Town Center, use a Village Center. It's not as strong but it's about having a dwarf-loaded building shooting all that extra pierce damage on Hoplites in that critical fight. This is also why you're not falling into the TA trap; max on trolls instead.

Norse that don't have Forsetti have Freyja. It's harder to play because you don't have the speed on the Hersir. However, all the same principals apply.

Get ready to watch Themistocles win.

Again.

(continued)
Freyja has a very important 20% hero HP upgrade to make up for some of what you lack by not having Forsetti. In addition, as useful as Trolls are, Shieldmaiden Valkyries are better per cost, are faster than Minotaur, and duel out Minotaur. If the opponent slips up at all and gives you favor, the tide can turn quickly.

An alternative to all this is rushing to the Heroic age with nothing but a Great Hall, defensively building and training Hersir for safety. This might be especially valid for Odin, who can put 1000 extra huntable food in his main base with a classical age Great Hunt. Hersir getting a free line upgrade with the age advancement and doubling the purpose of a fast armory, where in fact Heroic age Hersir with Sessrumnir and hack armor upgrade will effectively trade with Sarissa Medium Hoplites. The other Heroic-age bonus is access to Godi (a strong handful for sniping myth units only) and Jarls for everything else (and not being shabby at dealing with Myth units when they have Ring-giver either). A fact known to too few, but Jarls with any degree of matching upgrades trade even with Hoplites. If the Zeus/Hades player doesn't manage to capitalize on the opportunity cost of paying for Heroic and get locked into fighting a Jarl-based force, they can quickly lose the game to Heavy Jarls.

>>2017598
He's just better than everyone. He's got like 100 effective APM on the second best guy and he uses it perfectly.

twitch dot tv/egctv
2/3 Chinese Gods banned for Themistocles.

>>2017865
I called it

BREAKING patch news.

"Can you believe they did it???" rejoiced the only objectively non-biased expert pro streamer, Johnarbiter.

"I support the map changes" said one confidential informant, who wished to remain anonymous out of fear of being targeted by the Voobly cabal, "but at what cost? Egyptian is already over 65% winrates, and it's only been a day!" Player concern only seem to increase as time went on as more players acclimated to the patch changes. Before the changes, all civilization winrates appeared to be close to 50%.

"Good luck, my Norse brothers" said one popular AOM community leader after reading the patch notes. He, of course, rarely played Norse by choice, which matched the trend seen in the Major God pick choices of the most recent tournament, Clash of Immortals.

i will never understand why you people care about streamers and tournaments and shit

>>2019806
tournaments are fun because tournaments are fun. it's just like sports.
RTS games always had active shit-flinging forums back in the day but in 2025 forums are dead and replaced with twitch chat. I don't make the rules

>>2019806
Pros playing regular games is boring but in tournaments they don't (often) resign as quickly and watching a comeback is fun.

>>2019806
Tournaments are peak entertainment
Why you are a contrarian?

>>2019806
I get to live vicariously through them as I will never play ranked- and I'm just chilling until the next campaign.

they need to revert like 80% of the balance changes from the latest patch. like, everything but the chinese ones maybe

>>2020781
as someone who likes to random, funnily enough the only change that has me worried is the fire archer.

I like the idea, but I'm not sure how horse is supposed to fight halbedier+ fire archer in classical age

>>2021069
Same as before, Chinese is just less horrible at it. Train Berserks, pick your fights, ie. Pick off small number of units, simply never build Raiding Cavalry unless there are no Halberdier, and it's better to just tempo into Heroic and use Huskarl and massed Myth Units instead.

>>2020781
>>2021069
The Spearman buff is way over the top and I say that as someone that only plays Egypt.

>>2021132
I wonder thought Egyptians needed that much of a buff? Even among the biased pros they still thought Egyptians had the strongest classical age pressure. They also justified buffs to other Egyptian units in the previous patch to go with Chariot Archer nerfs, only to rebuff the Chariot Archer. So now they're flat-out just stronger across the board, and it just doesn't make any sense. Ra was still within the margin of error on overall winrates, his 47.62% was almost exclusively driven by abysmal results against Chinese.

There's so much room to just do whatever you want with Egyptians right now. You can do a two monument, fast second TC, barracks army with no vulnerability into getting into Heroic and adding Chariot Archers. There's immediate value impact god powers in every age, technologies, fast units, strong units, fast training units, etc. There's no need to go for a specific timing attack or any kind of particular strategy, just a broad sweep of generic mechanical play and Egyptian will just default the win I think in every matchup right now except if they fail to sweep the legs out from Chinese before they get rolling in mid-late Mythic, which is the entire schtick of the Chinese civilization. It's brutally out-of-scope for what should be happening.
Ra's winrate is just astronomical at the moment. Above 1600 rating it's like 66%.

I hope they just revert the balance changes and blacklist input from whoever the hell they used for input on this patch because this patch just took things from somewhat balanced to outright not balanced. Completely wrong.

Waiter, waiter! More Heroes of Ragnarok please!

>>2021843
But the washed up youtuber said the patch was really good and nearly perfect?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3IgIDZJgJU

>>2022260
I think I skimmed that the other day and IIRC even he was saying the egyptian unit, hoplite changes were too much

>>2016848
>Classical Age: Elohim, El, Baal
>Heroic: Noah (flood), Enoch (Nephilim), Moses (water boosts)
>Mythic: Iesus (power: son of Osiris but it's jesus), Merkabah (unit: angels), Lucifer (unit: demons)
>Main Gods: The Trinity, Yhwh/Muslims, Satan (Baal->Enoch->Lucifer for full Satan)

>>1950455 (OP)
How bad are the console controls?

>>1950455 (OP)
Has anybody played DS version (you know, the one that it's a rts) on a emulator? I'm asking because it keeps freezing on the citadel mission of the Norse campaign when I fight certain units like the Jarl or the Mountain Giant, also for some reason I can't turn of the battles and movement animation, it says that it's turned off but that's false and if you try to turn it on or off it freezes yet again.

>>2024628
You know, I've never played that version and I think it's absolutely wild that it was made.
Try /vr/ for emulator help.
Phrase it like "My DS emulator keeps freezing for games like Age of Mythology"

long wait for them to revert the terrible balance changes

i'm kinda new to rts genre aom being to only game im really interested in right now what are the odds we get some dlc and continuous support in the coming years?

>>2025404
High chances, there are a few DLCs planned in the future but seems AoM develops slower than other titles, but at the very least will have continuous support for many years, not as different from AoE2

>>2025404
It's suggestive that it will be decently high.

>>2025404
They already sold a second civ DLC to people, so they must deliver on that.
Anything else is up in the air and somewhat unlikely as AoE is a hobbo franchise run on minimal investment/minimal return theme. AoMR doesn't fit that since creating new content has a certain bar of standard they cannot go under and is thus too expensive compared to the potential returns.
Depending on whether the devs find another novelty to sell Microsoft marketing dept on, it's either going to be a goodbye or copy-paste god spam (adding new gods is cheap) until people realise it just kills balance without adding anything meaningful to the game and they're forced to quit it.

>make two civilizations that revolve around archer units for power
>make peltasts completely invalidate archers
I know they were bad before Retold but maybe that was for a good reason

>>1995709
Is there a guide with the basics to make a mod somewhere?

>>2016848
Muslims would love seeing Allah represented as part of a pantheon. The developers would be very safe if they did this.

South American mythologies of antiquity are the most obvious and exciting choice for the 6th Civilization. I can see it being extremely popular.

>>2027025
I definitely think Middle Eastern has more potential.
You can get campaigns vs Greeks and Egyptians no problem with some Sumerian civ.

>>2027025
>Black, Red, White, Blue Tezcatlipoca along with the rest of the Aztecs
Sold. I don't know how to differentiate blood sacrifice from Norse favor gain but I just want a Cipactli and the Drunk Divine Rabbits.

>event at 10%

its going to be real embarrassing if it fails out the gate

MOMMY

https://tiermaker.com/create/new-pantheons-for-age-of-mythology-retold-17006456
It's that time again.

>>2030027
gonna be like AOE 3 where they first had the skin events be like : X peoples must play during hte month and kept lowering and lowering the treshold until now its like "if 200 peoples play 4 games in like a month you get your fucking skin"

>>2025454
>but at the very least will have continuous support for many years
I would like that Age of Mythology would be like Smite but better in regards of Patheons, but after what happen with AoE 3, I had my doubts...

>>2030609
We're at four and already grasping at straws for new ways to just generate favor.

>>2030609
The thing is people who work on Smite need Smite to succeed to keep the lights on.
Microsoft doesn't give a fuck about AoE/M and the people working on it likewise.

They never wanted to make AoMR in the first place, kinda just flail around in place throwing random shit at the wall while obligated to give it some support and their most likely next step is to figure out another DE/Retold game to pitch to the higher ups.
AoE2DE isn't making real money, AoMR sure as fuck isn't ever going to, either. Sell your boss on something like "Using our expertise to make the DEFINITIVE Star Wars RTS" would fit them more and push the whole circus for another 2-3 years. Or RoN. Anything they can sell to upper management with promises of potential (remember them pitching Retold as an e-sport?), using nostalgia to farm some suckers who buy it.

Tell me /v/reddit wouldn't go all basedface over RoNDE or something equally retarded. No chance.

>>2030667
I beLieve you.

>>2004603
WHY DOES EVERYTHING LOOK SO SMOOTHED OUT

>week 2 of 4 just started
>not even halfway to 25%
dead fucking game

>>2031021
Apparently there was a bug, it’s 37% now

>>2030667
if we got rise of nations: rise of legends: rise of remakes out of it i would forgive them

>>2031549
lmao my ass, more like the devs inflated the numbers so people don't realise how dead the game is. microsoft spent real money to pay an artist to make those portraits and people couldn't even hit 50% before the FIRST event was over? nah not happening
that's the only thing these "community contribution events" are good for, lying about engagement or showing just how dead they are

>>2031549
>Apparently there was a bug
Anon, please. You'd have to be "I believe in storks and Santa Claus" level of gullible to think this very clearly slowly progressing line was bug.

It's absolutely common knowledge these have to be faked otherwise they run the risk of tanking the morale in the community.
That's why they were invented. Blizzard doesn't show playercounts on anything because they use them to manipulate their stock price. So when people started saying X game is dead, they made the OG event like this to both heighten engagement and dispell all the naysayers.
And it worked... it worked too well. So they repeated it a while later, all confident about the result and... they didn't reach the goal. GG no RE.
Everyone has learned since then these either have to be brutally simple goals with no way of failing or a fudged count.

The new Chinese civ is so fucking well done.

Just god damn.
They're complicated, strong, but not obviously so, thematic, etc. just wow. Decently high skill floor, really high skill ceiling. Having competitive economic growth tied to favor being spent on Kuafu is an amazing core design considering that they balanced the favor rate and the value of their myth units and techs such that the choice between more kuafu or something else is right on the line.

Their pioneer scouting is also genius. Their human unit armies are so abysmally slow- their only mainline strong units the Dao Swordsmen and the Chu Ko Nu have snail-speed of 3.8, so the army really can't get caught out of position, so instead they use Pioneer sky lantern casts. It feels really clever.

In addition to all that, their unit asymmetry that just abandons the idea of parity is just so delicious for anybody who really appreciates the gritty excitement of asymmetric RTS. Their Dao Swordsmen is underwhelming 1 to 1 against all of its counterparts simply to have higher resistance to archers. They simply do not get a hack damage dealing anti-infantry unit, so they just have no *real* hard counter to high pierce armor infantry. They don't even have a *real* archer in classical because it's reliant on multipliers, but the quasi-archer they do use to counter infantry actually has appreciable damage to buildings. When they do get their real archer, its a stat-loaded unit but not not in the ways that archers usually become oppressive, instead being loaded with a chunky slow attack animation and low range, which is just so incredibly unique.

It's just awesome. I really appreciate how they made the civ. They can't be played on autopilot but they're still good.

>>2032600
I cant tell if you are writing this down with a sarcastic tone or not

>>2032601
consider the website you are on

>>2032601
unlike the modern 2025 4chancuck, I am not being a sarcastic loser. sometimes things are just good

>>2032614
>sometimes things are just good
sounds fake

Is AoM down for anyone else
I want to do Celestial Challenges right this second

>>2036580
This might be peak modern videogames

>>2036580
>>2036584
Scheduled maintenance

>>2030685
Extremely common modern day developer problem of not touching Specular at all and keeping it at 0.5 because that's the 'default' as if it shouldn't be just fucking 0 for anything that isn't plastic.

>>2031567
>Rise of Legends Definitive
>Completely redone Cuotl faction
>Actually good Cuotl campaign missions
>Hire Duane for a few more tracks
I'd buy it.

>>2036647
>Completely redone Cuotl faction
how would you redo them

turns out AoM was liked for its campaign and basically fuck all else

>>2038016
turns out that isn't true but faggots feel good by going online and saying dumb shit

>>2037994
Vinci has the laboratory and Alin has unit upgrades but what does Cuotl have? Nothing.
They could have something about sacrificing units for the equivalent of upgrades or smt.

>>2038024
doesn't vinci also have unit upgrades or was that just a campaign thing

>mfw no autoqueue
This is so weird. I mean, it existed in the og as of the Titan expansion. And arbitrarily you can use on civilians. ?? Back to Extended.
>>2015283
>they have the option to play with autoqueue on in ranked.
There's no such option. "Hope you get matched to someone who also picked the option but that might not happen randomly" isn't an option. But I knew someone would be retarded to say this.

You can chart the entire win/lose outcome right now on who has the stronger 1 TC aggression strategy.
Everything else is just window dressing.

There's no tech timings, there's no 2nd TC timings, etc. unless you're already playing the civ with the upper hand of aggression. In which case, the civ is doing other strategies just because the civ can get away with suboptimal strats.

There's no matchup that's a 50/50 split in actuality. You just have the right civ or you don't. Raids don't matter.

If you play Greek, you're going to run over every other civ on 1 TC.
If you play Egyptian, you're going to run over every other civ other than Greek on 1 TC.
If you play Norse, you're going to run over every civ remaining on 1 TC.
If you're Atlantean, you're going to run over the last civ, the Chinese, on 1 TC.
Norse vs. Atlantean might be a coin toss based on available Berserk tech. Stupid high hunt might go to Murmillo+GP spam Oranos over Odin, but that's just because these are generalizing each civ when there are 1 TC aggression advantage tiers marked by major gods.

If anything else is happening, it's just somebody screwing around and making unforced mistakes. This last patch was so awful. The unit triangle is just non-functional. It's a shitshow right now.

>>2039082
Play custom games with it on. You *can* try to opt out of it on ladder but for the sake of long-term competitiveness it's not a popular feature. Having AQ on villagers does most of the heavy lifting on lowering the skill floor anyway.

>celestial blessings are finally green quality
>it's been over two months (if memory servers)
>like four-six more months until actually usable blessings start dropping
Engagement was a mistake.

>>2040055
>The only use for blessings are in dogshit pseudocampaign missions and the challenge itself
what were they thinking

Does "Arena of the Gods" still require an online connection?

>>2040382
Yes.

>>2040055
I play 1v1 ladder only. I don't even know what you're talking about.

I do not care about winning jpeg avatars. Bring me the 2nd pantheon

>>2038016
That's almost every RTS which is why they stopped selling once devs shifted focus away from fun/interesting campaigns and towards trying to become the next hot esport title

>>2041265
False. They stopped selling the same reason that arena FPS stopped selling. Mechanically challenging video games that have a player's win/loss reflect their performance isn't popular. RTS campaign's have always been second rate video game experiences, and require a lot more effort to make than what they sell. I'm tired of people coping about this.

I honestly don't know what they expected with the Arena of the Gods.

It feels like some intern got forced to come up with it and hated every minute

>>2041961
It honestly wasn't that bad of a co-op experience, it just doesn't have a lot of polish.

>>2039082
>There's no such option. "Hope you get matched to someone who also picked the option but that might not happen randomly" isn't an option. But I knew someone would be retarded to say this.

As of today:
>The “Military Autoqueue” filter option for the multiplayer browser now has options for “Any”, “Off”, and “On” to allow more choice in how the filtering is applied.

I'll set it to "Any" just for u

alguien sabe como puedo piratear el juego, alguna pagina o link?

>>1950455 (OP)
>Age of Mythology: Retold
>AI generated crap
Fuck no

>>2051162
>being uneducated
>spouting opinions
into the wood chipper you go

>no mod scene
what gives?

>opponent cast ancestor+eclipse with army on economy
>cast vanish
>devour elephants and spit fireballs at chariot archers
OK this game is cool

bros...

Japanbros...
we won...

>japonese pantheon
im wondering how will they make them different enough from the chinese

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2MkpGj44bFc&feature=youtu.be

Another asian? thats so fucking lazy, they should've done aztecs.

>>2061898
>Not aztecs
>Not sumerians or babylonians
>Not celts
>Not persians, sarmatians or scythians
>Not mayas, incas
>Not polynesians or indians

Absolutely retarded. Way before the period of cool japan units (gun samurai and whatnot)
WTF where they thinking??

>>2054477
They were confirmed to use AI art on the god portraits and then when people called them out on it they suddenly revealed 30+ god portraits overnight, proof they were just made using a better AI model.

>>2061926
Its just easier to make another asian civ I guess, thats the only reason I can honestly think of, its even dumber than the Atlanteans having been the dlc of the original.

>>2061879
>Another civ
>Japanese, similar to Chinese
>STILL NO 4TH GOD FOR NON-NORSE PANTHEONS
So lazy and lame, holy shit.

I'm not afraid to get political here, the unit balance in AoM always really bothered me. It's so much more blobby than something like Warcraft 3, but the time to kill just never feels satisfying. The unit counters are way overtuned, but at the same time feel incredibly weak. I'm not asking that the game let me just tech and deathball a single unit type, but the Chinese campaign had me just wanting to die since you always feel starved for the unit type that you need. Come to think of it, does the game have a single reliable archer unit? Even the Toxotes for the Greeks had really short range from what I remember.

>>2061926
all in due time

Aztecbros, babylonianbros... we lost...

>>2061926
>gun samurai
bro it's before the fucking samurai
this is actually insane

>China is in, Japan is in
Total sinosphere victory, China won, Japan won.

>>2061939
the game is they're never doing anything beyond the dlcs they already sold

>not Korean
It's like they want this game to fail.

>game is set in 1300 bc
>dlc civ is set in 1500 ad
make it make sense

>make the next DLC civ Japan so you can recycle the new Chinese assets from the previous DLC

We're reaching levels of penny-pinching previously unheard of

>>2061995
>all in due time
What are you talking about? This could be it. There's a very good possibility this is the last civ for AOM

>>2030667
Want me to give you the clown makeup?

>>2062021
Actually samurai are in this DLC.
>>2062075
It's fiction.

>>2062144
yeah the fiction lacks internal consistency. glad we're on the same page.

>>2062075
>>game is set in 1300 bc
damn, they've been fucking it up since release

>3000bc egyptians vs 200bc greeks vs high middle ages norse vs entirely made-up civ
I sleep
>samurai
REAL SHIT

>>2062213
I always find it funny how a game based on MYTHOLOGY mixed with ALT-HIS and FANTASY needs to be historical-accurate for some reason, despite covering the Trojan War, the tale of Osiris' rebirth, the reforging of Thor's hammer and the Fall of Atlantis, alongside a completely fictional account of the rebuilding of Atlantis and the liberation of the titans from Tartarus and the tale of Nüwa and the Pillars of Heaven.

>>2062216
keep pretending you don't see the problem, that'll really change my mind

>>2062213
???
Egyptians are clearly Ptolemaic while Greeks have Hetairoi (Alexandrian Macedonian cavalry)
Norse are clearly pre-medieval as well.

>>2038039
They have 'this unit line gets stronger' upgrades while Alin had specific traits like +damage or +life across the board and some other specific ones like making their swordsmen ranged.

I wanted Mesopotamia so bad. Also a bit disappointed that the mythical battles are going to be aborted with a single scenario to it. Would have been such a cool way to make more unique scenario's out of campaigns.
>>2061995
They aren't making another dlc lol. AOE3 has 2-3x more players and they put it on life support anyway

>>2062233
>Norse are clearly pre-medieval as well.
Yeah, say what you will about them being medieval vikings, the game at least always gestured in the direction of them being pre-medieval.
Japan didn't even start using curved swords until like 900 AD.

>>2062130
this , this game has less players than AOE3 DE , and they cut all further dlc for them

Will Celts ever be added as a Pantheon or no?

>>2062287
Bro we are not getting another DLC after this
It's gonna be Chinese+Japanese+Freyr and nothing else

>>2062293
Because the game is not popular enough?

>>2062328
3,5k 24h peak when AOE3 has 6k 24h peak and got its DLC cancelled

>no korean mythology
didn't they want the starcraft audience

>>2062356
AOE3 is f2p

>see trailer for Japanese DLC
>think hey that's pretty cool
>come to /vst/
>everyone hates it

>>2062372
I don't hate it, just sad our last dlc is another Asian one

Would've preferred Aztecs or Maya but Japan is fine
Hopefully we'll see some synergy in the campaign with Chinese making appearances here and there
Though I wonder what they'll do to bring in the other civs since surely they can't just reuse "you died and went to hell and everyone was there" again, right? Right?

>One year later
>"Introducing our third DLC civilisation: Korea!"

>>2062372
>DLC: japan

>>2062381
>another Asian one
This is not the problem. The problem is it's another Sinosphere one. It should have been Persia or India or Sumeria instead.

>>2062381
This is the Asian Century. Get used to it.

>>2062681
But we can't reuse assets if they're too different!

>>2062130
it won't be. we'll get another civ announced by the end of the year

>>2062688
>Asian Century
>Look inside
>Just China and Japan over and over again

>>2062725
Korea too, westerners are obsessed with K-Pop and K-drama

>>2062725

>>2062725
>Japan dominating the comics and cartoons westerners read and watch
>Korea dominating the pop music westerners listen to and the drama shows they watch
>China, Vietnam, Thailand etc dominating the manufacturing of products westerners buy
>Jeets dominating the tech industry within western nations
Asian century. The West is known for nothing but importing third-worlders and accelerating their collapse at this point.

>>2062728
>korean or chinese?
>chinese.
>korean?
>no chinese.

>>2061879
wow, this sucks. I will just stick to reading Touge Oni.

>>2062745
>Korea dominating the pop music westerners listen to and the drama shows they watch
they don't, kpop and kdramas are niche if you compare it to western productions

>>2062781
You're too old to understand how big they've become.

>>2062789
Not a single korean song is in my local charts. I can look at the US charts and it won't be much different. Are you going to tell me now that the charts are not representative of the mainstream taste?

>>2062793
You're like the clueless old people in 2005 who thought that anime was a flash in the pan super niche thing when it was already dominating youth culture, which is the only culture that matters when it comes to entertainment

>>2062798
Mate, I know that kpop and kdramas have a lot of fans here. You can call me old and argue as much as you want, but saying that korean productions are dominating in the west is factually incorrect.

>>2062745
>China, Vietnam, Thailand etc dominating the manufacturing of products westerners buy
>Jeets dominating the tech industry within western nations
These aren't good things, though, these are a sign of economic dependence on the west.

Is there a modding guide anywhere?
As things go, they're never going to add the pantheons I want so I might as well do it myself

I just realized, with the japanese being added we could have a legitimate Touhou mod for AOM.

>research techs theft of fire and mythic rejuvenation not working
fine then i'll just not contribute this week

>>2062944
What's the point of that when there's this
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1761210/The_Touhou_Empires/

>>2062999
me its the deal 500 damages with carnivora , i have sunk like 20 ships and it dont want to complete

More fucking AI slop

>>2063131
stinky desperation post

>>2061936
It's pacing. AOMR sold ~3x better than they anticipated, and the Chinese DLC skyrocketed playercount back to launch numbers which is a great signal of player interest. Japanese civilization is arriving in fall- 2 DLC civs in a year is lightning fast, which means it's selling HOT.
6th civ choice was Japanese because it's better to fit in Japanese mythology now and end on a Mesoamerican mythology capstone as a 7th civ than the other way around.
Save the best for last to keep them until the end of the show.

>>2062021
>bro it's before the fucking samurai
bro egyptian pharaohs and longboat vikings at like 2000 years apart, and Atlanteans aren't even a real historical civilization at all, but Age of Mythology was made anyway.

Don't be too autistic to enjoy fiction

>>2062237
>AOE3 has 2-3x more players
THAT's maximum copium delulu, no wonder this thread is sprinkled with sour grape posting- we got jealous AO3-turds

>Be greek vs. greek
>train Centaur and heroes
>then Hoplites
>then Peltasts if they have archers
>run around and bop my opponent
>win
>be greek vs. Egyptian
>train Centaur and heroes
>then Hoplites
>then Peltasts if they have Chariots
>run around and bop my opponent
>win
>be greek vs. Norse
>train Centaur and heroes
>then Hoplites
>opponent resigns out of frustration
>be Atlantean vs. Norse
>build ???? to do ?????
>a bunch of stupid slow fat guys with a dumb crossbow die to the pure infantry he's supposed to counter
>alt-f4

at last I truly see

>>2063242
>he fell for the cheiroballista meme
use arci and fanatics for infantry

>>1950455 (OP)
JAPAN + CHINA (EAST) VS WEST
LET'S
FUCKING
GO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>1975806
>>1975970
Japan won.

Story MC is also gonna be the first female protag (legal) so monitor pixiv.

>>2063228
it's just math sweatie. aom flopped incredibly hard.

>>2061874
Depends on what they take from. Like Japan and China do share some overlapping concepts like evil seductive foxladies (because men) but there are shit that do not overlap like Giant Evil Spiders.

>Including the Yamato in Age of Empires, the Japanese will join the Chinese as being one of the two civilizations represented in every installment of the Age of Empires series.

>>2063294
Mrs. Yasuko & Mr. Yasuke.

>>2063299
the first being China #1 of course

>With the guidance of Akari, guardian of the spear
>Female Protag
>Guided by someone named Akari
Gaijin-sama-tachi

Do you know of this Nihon Bunka called "Yuri?"

>>2062999
Make sure not to do it in Deathmatch, just go Lightning with infinite resources
>>2063130
Make a Wonder and spam them on land

>>2063299
Neither were in AoEO. Greeks stay winning

>>2063503
We don't talk about Online here.

Who is this semen demon? An antagonistic yokai maybe?

>>2063223
I really really doubt that we'll actually get a 3rd dlc, weren't aom's numbers worse than those of aoe3? and that game got murdered.
Would be nice to be wrong but I doubt it.

>>2063345
Yuri?!

>>2063586
>weren't aom's numbers worse than those of aoe3?
no, not even close

>>2063580
Probably a Tsuchigumo
>Tsuchigumo are traditionally giant spider monsters, though unlike Jorogumo they're rarely depicted as beautiful women
>Appears in a story where the hero receives divine aid from Amaterasu to defeat one with a legendary weapon (though a sword and not a spear in this case), mirroring the apparent plot
>Battle takes place in a cave and Tsuchigumo are "those who hide underground"
>Name is also used to describe clans who were antagonistic to early Japanese rulers
Jorogumo is also possible given that they're women/spider demons with fire powers and she has a lantern there
But I wouldn't be surprised if she was the main villain and a Tsuchigomi rising up against the Japanese with other mythical beings like the Mishiguji who fell out of favour

>>2063653
Here's a Tsuchigumo from the same series of games
Their historical depictions are actually even uglier

>>2063653
>>2063680
So it seems like she's a Jorogumo secondary antagonist, right? Kind of like a Kemsyt or Krios.

>>2063703
And then Yamata no Orochi, the eight-headed serpent titan in the trailer, who is tied to Amaterasu by way of being a monster that Susanoo, her brother, kills and tells her about later
A story which also involves a sword getting broken like the Tsuchigumo story, for some reason
So similar to the other villain trios of the AoM campaigns

>>2062999
>>research techs theft of fire and mythic rejuvenation not working
you have to research them both on the same game

>>2062162
Yeah but I'm still looking forward this mythological kitchen sink expanding. Hoping for Hindu Mythology being next after Japan. The stuff they have in their own myths is extremely wacky at times.

>>2063503
Greeks weren't in AoE3

One deffinitive must for a choice of Gods needs to be between Izanagi and Izanami.

>>2065106
Ottoman empire in 3 encompasses all Greek lands.

>>2065330
based

>>2064951
I'll be MORE than satisfied with 7 asymmetric civilizations with Japanese + Chinese + Greek + Norse + Egyptian + The Greek 2 Roman Inspired made-up Boogaloo + a Aztec/Mayan/Mesoamerican etc. Mythology, each with 4 Major gods.

That comes to a total of 28 fully unique major options. Just having 7 asymmetric civs with fully unique units and economies in an RTS game is already a huge deal.

I'm not opposed to Hindu mythology as an 8th asymmetric civ if they think they could make it, but I don't think it's practical considering it's not a "mythology" but an actual modern day religion- the third largest in the world. I think it's just not a necessary bit of drama for a game that's already overflowing with options.

>>2065371
>The Greek 2 Roman Inspired made-up Boogaloo

kek
Ensemble Studios really did that didn't they

>>2065106
Say that to his face.

>>2065371
This but 8 civilisations to include Sumeria or Persia

>>2065371
Mythology is part of religion dingus. All of the religions from the game have real world practitioners.

>>2065768
>All of the religions from the game have real world practitioners
You mean atheists larping as practicioners because they're hwhite religions or something.

>>2065371
I want them to go the Smite route and just fucking add crazy shit like voodoo and Lovecraft. Say what you will about Smite but their god selection is good.

>>2065479
It was clearly going to be the real Etruscans worshipping Titans but they had to fuck it up.

>playing against possy (because of course)
>manage to catch him offguard with 2 Anubites
>they just get stuck in buildings for 2 jumps in a row and die without doing anything

>Went on reddit and people would rather Mesoamericans, Celts and Indians over Mesopotamians
It’s over Urukbros

>>2066266
Mesopotamians would just be Egypt 2.

>>2066266
People just don't know any better
Especially if they say fucking Celts should get in first

I just had a horrible idea. What if they ask some Vpooper to shill the DLC (by playing badly)

>>2066266
Funny. I went on leddit and saw someone bitching about the game becoming too Asian...and then everyone else called him racist.

Drama aside, if they decide to stop jerking off AOE2 then I think we ought get the following if next DLC does good/Competitive carries us.
-Mesopotamians or Iranians to cover that gap between East and West
-Slavic for Eastern players
-Indian cause I want some God weapons.
-And a wildcard like Yoruba or Celt.

>>2062412
The cosmic chad yokai

>>2062372
>2025 and people still taking seriously about any "everyone hates it" moments in internet

>>2066108
just play greek. it's the ezmode noob race where building units and a-moving them generates value. no micro no tricks just sit on your ass and shit the bed until you win

>>2066266
We'll never get Hindu gods because they're currently actively worshipped in big enough amounts to be officially recognized by people. No, neo-pagans and hipster olympian worshippers don't count.

>>2067401
I'm not we're at a point in Western society anymore where people care about offending any religious practitioners with the exception of Muslims

>>2067404
I'm not sure*

>>2067401
They're still adding new Hindu gods in Smite.

>>2067401
>We'll never get Hindu gods because they're currently actively worshipped in big enough amounts to be officially recognized by people.
Except your average Hindu gamer would probably go "ohhh I know that dude hell yeah" as long as you do the bare minimum to portray the Hindu gods accurately.

>>2066108
Yep. That's Amanra for you.

She is only good for doing the speed run.

grim

>>2067703

>>2067703
>less players than a delisted 12 year old game

>>2067703
what went wrong?

>>2068195
desync issues during the launch week gave a really poor impression

I feel that the performance increase from the original is disproportionate to the visual improvements they did

>>1975727
Celts, Slavs, Babylonian, Aztecs, Yoruba.

>>1976070
Sumeria or Slavs tbqh.

>>2065782
>being yourself is roleplaying
>pretending to be a jew is real religion

using the AO3 engine was a mistake

>>2069108
>archive of our own

>>2068420
Pagan religions weren't "just b urself", they had rules and rites and tenants (most of which lost to time), and frequently required live animal or sometimes human sacrifices to appease the gods were who believed to be literally and directly responsible for natural phenomena such as storms and droughts and volcanic eruptions. Neopaganism needs to excise vocal figures like Varg who insist that the gods aren't even real and are simply metaphors, and promote people who literally believe that the gods are real and controlling nature as their ancestors believed, if it wants to shake the "atheist LARPer" perception. Honestly, the LARP part may never go away given that it's impossible to actually follow these religions as they were followed back then due to massive gaps in knowledge. What little we do know often comes from biased, non-pagan sources. It would just unironically be better to try and create some whole new religion, but good luck selling that in an age where scientific materialism is growing exponentially.

butt-grabbing panic shill here
why is Age of Mythology such a colossal failure??

Of all the Mythix age powers why does Tartarus gate suck so much? It's basically a glorified deconstruction that spawns bears.

>>2069450
nta but i believe the point he's trying to make with "being yourself" is that he only supports religions that were started by whatever ethnic group you belong to

>>2069894
It's a major threat until army deals with it, which is a huge pain if you're already fighting on a front. The Tartarian Spawn have huge damage multipliers against human units so if the threat isn't met with overwhelming force they'll deal huge amounts of damage. It's a good 60 second adventure to march an army over and crush the gate.

So the theoretical damage is massive, the initial cast is guaranteed damage, and it's a population-free threat that requires a lot of population space to answer. It's really good, but it's in the category of noobs not understanding any of that and thinking it's not good. Noobs would turn every god power into pre-nerf Implode/Lightning Storm if they were listened to.

>>2069930
I would go with the pre-nerf fimbulwinter desu

>>2069957
I'm not sure that helps Atlantean players any more than Norse players who would want to cast Tartarian Gate

>>2069894
>>2069930
I think the ai on the beasts is bugged most of the time. When they actually work properly, it's really strong.

>>2069930
Just build a wonder and spam it to win

>>2070367
Yes, Wonders are intended to be win conditions.

>>2069450
Yeah and where did those rites come from? They're expressions of the nature of the ethnos. And what determines whether a rite is correct or not, or still appropriate or not, is whether it is in alignment with the instincts that drive behaviour in general.

This is something that both christcucks who throw the term 'larp' around and historyfag traditionalists don't understand. Both groups uncritically take the 19th century victorian view of what a religion even is, i.e. a codified and unchanging creedal social institution, when in reality religion is in essence a total way of life and duty.

What determines what duties we have? Ethics, the study of the good. What determines what's good for us? Nature. How do we attain what's good for us? By being in tune with nature. How do we do that? By listening to our instincts and satisfying all of them without repression or compromise.

Someone like Varg is factually wrong, but his issue isn't that he isn't doing or believing what people from the past did. A historical behaviour isn't automatically a correct behaviour.

t. actually has a religious studies degree and investigates this topic a lot.

>>2070836
>By listening to our instincts and satisfying all of them without repression or compromise.
if i expose you to drugs you will gain an instinct to do drugs, which if followed without temperance, will result in you overdosing yourself and dying
you have a brain. your nature is to think critically. you are not an unintelligent beast, incapable of higher reasoning. sometimes you have instincts that need to be repressed or compromised on for your own safety and well being. you have the capacity to do that.

>>2070836
>t. actually has a religious studies degree
lol dumbass

>>2069906
>he only supports religions that were started by whatever ethnic group you belong to
Why would anybody in the 21st century support religions in general? They were methods to explain the world that are no longer needed thanks to scientific advancements.

>>2071793
You don't gain instincts - what you're referring to is an impulse. In the case of drugs you're satisfying an instinct for pleasure at the expense of an instinct for fitness, resilience, etc. and so they are inappropriate because they are a compromise.

>you have a brain. your nature is to think critically. you are not an unintelligent beast, incapable of higher reasoning. sometimes you have instincts that need to be repressed or compromised on for your own safety and well being. you have the capacity to do that.

Yeah this is just ego function, which is only a juvenile middle step of mental growth, and leads to mental pathology and nihilism if it is all that is valued. Which is why the crisis of modernity happened. The purpose of the ego is to mediate between the instincts and find ways to satisfy all of them. "for your own safety and well being" is nonsensical, there is no well being other than the satisfaction of the instincts.

Platonists, stoics, scholastics, enlightenment rationalists etc. have all worked themselves up so much over the ego and have merely blinded themselves to the next stage of growth. They think because they overcame the extreme impulses of childhood that they reached the end. It's a sophomoric outlook.

>>2071967
>they are inappropriate because they are a compromise.
Everything is a compromise tho

this game is fun and fixes my problem with standard AOE which is the units are too plain. adding minotaurs and god powers and cool shit really spices up everything and actually makes spearman/horseman/arrowman shenanigans enjoyable. i just smashed a game with laser alligators and it ruled hard.

>>2073105
fun yes

>>2073105
If you enjoy it you might also enjoy watching the Mythic Wars tournament that's been going on.
https://youtu.be/S820Dc7G_Xc

AOMR is a good RTS

I want big blue Kali tits.

>>2073697
t. fate grand order player

>>2073742
Yes that would do quite nicely, just a bit more blood and it'd be perfect.

No time limit for weekly challenges, and as long as you do all 16, you unlock all the awards including the new major god portrait.

So yeah, they gave up on this whole “community” thing 2 months in.

>>2075860
To be fair the "rewards," are a nothingburger

stop dodging water maps you cowards

god. why are multiplayer games always filled with toxic autists who only want to do one superspecific strat in identical conditions on repeat.

>>2076307
1v1 Lost Temple Terran only pleb.

>>2076307
Water is just not fun. It removes all the asymmetry from the game except for myth units.

>>2076826
>no asymmetry
>godpowers
>economies
>naval bonuses*
>myth units
>myth technologies
>land is still just as asymmetrical as before

*since you didn't know, Greek: 5% more hp, Egyptian: -10% ship cost, Norse: 10% more attack, Atlantean: Extra range (and ranged Hammer Ships), Chinese: -1 pop space
water maps are fun especially since docks stacked with fishing ships are so strong it's impossible to aggressively sweep water against a competent opponent which makes EVERYTHING come into play.

It's really that toxic autists hate navigating all that variation so they just bunt then act like its water maps that are the problem to save face.

Hows the game doing? was thinking of buying it now that its on sale.

>>2079353
It's going great. I just played a sweaty 32 minute game. There's a lot of players.

>>2079353
Statistics are bad, but it's easy to find opponents. Sometimes the pathing still gets a bit whacky and the current pattch buffed buildings, which a lot of top players seem to hate, but it's a good game.

>>2079353
It hits me like straight drugs to my RTS-obsessed brain. It's like Starcraft and Age of Empires 2 had a baby, everything is OP so nothing is, therefore fundemental strategy is king. And it looks cool, focuses on being fun, and the ladder is stuffed full of challenging players, and I got to top 50 in US ladder in SC2 when I focused on it a handful of seasons I don't think I'm an RTS slouch

>>2039105
>for the sake of long-term competitiveness it's not a popular feature. Having AQ on villagers does most of the heavy lifting
What does this even mean?
Look. It's inconsistent. It's like if smb let me jump on certain moments but not others. You want me to larp as skilled player who need no AQ, when villager AQ is a thing?? Why is it a thing then. I'm fooling nobody.
If they banned villager AQ too, I'd go and play your game. That is based.
>>2042880
>>The “Military Autoqueue” filter option for the multiplayer browser now has options for “Any”, “Off”, and “On” to allow more choice in how the filtering is applied.
Oh, c- wait, when is this on the base game? I'm the kind of person who buys the base game and get the expansion if I like it. Yup. BACK to Extended.

>>2080271
>What does this even mean?
idling your Towncenter is 10000% worse than idling your military production. So AQ on villagers does more to bring up a noob to a level where they can even begin to compete, while not undermining the importance of macro skill to differentiate skill level the rest of the way

>>2080271
>when is this on the base game? I'm the kind of person who buys the base game and get the expansion if I like it. Yup. BACK to Extended.
poorfag ESL faggot, Extended is your poopoopeepee

>>2080299
This is a bunch of mumbo jumbo to justify your flopgame.
"AQing an unit" is ONE mechanic. It's the same mechanic that you somehow separated into "villager" and "military" for some reason.
That is why it is good to have AQ to help noobs. BUT suddenly you don't want to help noobs anymore at a random point. Total designflop. It makes no sense. It can't be called design. It's flopdesign.

>>2080322
>babbys first game design argument
applying your restricted design integrity logic, all RTS games make some sort of arbitrary cutoff compromise. all of them.

multi-unit queue, multi-unit select and at what number, multi-building select, having hotkeys (or not having hotkeys), any degree of unit AI, resource autoharvest and autoreturn, rally points, moving rally points, control group(s), auto spellcasting or spellcasting or smart spellcasting, smart queue, global queue... the list goes on

all RTS are total designflop. unplayable noob catering genre. forest from the trees. fucking lel