Thread 1987824

Is this actually happening anytime soon? I stopped following the other open source project when i found out how many changes they did to the game.

not likely

>>1987824 (OP)
Never happening.
Spudgun is a grifter who will never finish and the other ones are extreme autists who want their own version of the game (who will never be finished).

>>1987824 (OP)
>Is this actually happening anytime soon
It's not happening ever

>Every fan project ever
>Initial hype wave
>Lots of work getting done
>Things seem good
>Time passes
>Updates and development get slower
>People leave the project for personal reasons or differences in opinion of how the project should move forward
>Slowly crawls to a halt
>Dies

>>1987824 (OP)
Everyone lost interest once they showed eu5 will have pops.

>>1989851
judging by victoria 3 performance that game will be beyond unplayable

>>1989873
Johan talked about how shit they made vic 3 early on in the DDs. Its the way they made and checked pops. Eu5 is in the same pop style as vic 2 which ran fine.

>>1987824 (OP)
troons in your project == DOA

>>1989913
Guaranteed EU V will run like shit by 1350.
You are delusional.

>>1989873
>>1990076
why are you coping? vic2 is more complex than eu4, hoi4, ck3, combined and still runs fine

>>1990091
thats other anon but i agree with him, i dont believe Johans marketing bullshit untill i see it myself. Also vanilla vic2 is super barebones and lasts only 100years.

>>1987824 (OP)
looks like its getting pretty close to happening

>>1987824 (OP)
Just wait for Gilded Destiny

>>1990433
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>>1990433
..

>>1988241
Well, them by your own admission this isn't like every fan project ever, since
>Lots of work getting done
Never fucking happened. It was always an empty hype bullshit.

>>1990097
>[coping intensified]

>>1990614
yeah Im the one coping not the retard slurping on Johans cum

>>1990645
>Muh Johan's cum
>Copium reaches overdose
Way to miss the point

>>1990687
You make no sense. To 'cope' I would need to care whether the game is successful or not. It's not that I hate or want EU5 to fail, but I'm a realist and expect it performance to be poor. It's YOU who continues deepthroat Johan despite the fact that paradox hasn't been able to deliver optimized game in over a decade.

>>1990716
The way he has laid out the dev diarys gives me a lot of hope for the game. Nothing within them has given me any indication the game will run poorly.

>>1990433
is it actually gonna fix resources?
wth is the point if it doesn't

>>1990717
Boy I remeber Imperator: Rome dev diaries.
Again, you sre delusional.

>>1987824 (OP)
Last I checked, which was a year ago at this point, they got outpaced by Project Alice, then once Project Caesar started having dev diaries I stopped hearing about either OpenVic or Alice.

>>1992214
I never thought imperator was going to be good solely for the setting but the dev diaries didn't feel like this. It felt more like showing off the already developed product as opposed to showing off a product in development than can be changed a lot. Maybe ill get burned but i currently dont see anything to dislike about the game outside of 3d portraits.

>>1987824 (OP)
>>1992307
Project Alice is complete dog water. Have you actually ran it?
Firstly it only compiles on fucking Windows unless you go into their trooncord and ask for instructions (something I'm never ever going to do).
Second it does not play faithfully to Vic 2 whatsoever. Even though it can run extremely fast, the market, the AI, and the wars do not behave like Vic2.
The troop models aren't even on the map last I played.
OV will probably never finish but PA is broken and I don't want to play it, even if they "finish" it because it does not feel like Vic 2.

>>1988007
last I checked he was just covering the project, not actually contributing to their git or anything.

bump

>>1987824 (OP)
Most of all the actual work being done on it was by a tranny and the chuds bullied her away so now there's next to no progress happening.

>>2001003
>citation needed

>>2001003
openvic or project alice?

Honestly whatever. Shit's open source. Some autist will eventually finish it even if we have to wait until 2045 and Vic 6 for it to be done.

Its been a couple years and 8 dev diaries later. Game half-functions which is decent considering they started from scratch.
Missing:
>Armies/Navies
>Politics?
>Pops work but need 1:1 function
Last dev diary was a couple months ago and I think someone is still working on it.

>>2001003
Good. I'd rather have no game, than a game made by a degenerate. We are rising, and will let not one drop of degeneracy pass, soon we will build a big gallows for people like you, that can hang thirty people at a time. This planet needs WASHING and we need a new Hitler to do it. Ave Hitler!

>>2013177
>Anon, singular
>We
... you forgot your meds once again?

>>2001003
Uhm, based department?

>>1990612
in that case it's better classified as a patreon scam

>>2013305
Royal we dipshit, and I will NOT be taking my lithium supplements and there's nothing you can do about it. Neck yourself troon

any news? im not in any of the cords

>>1990091
>vic 2 is more complex than
>vic 2
>complex

>>2020932
They were testing something with the elder scrolls map

>>1990091
basic pattern recognition is not coping
Paradox grand strategy games have been poorly made piles of dogshit for 12 years (being generous, it could be easily argued to be much longer). There is no evidence at all that EU5 will be any different.

>>2021747
I'm glad to see they at least got the UI elements to line up correctly as they are in actual Victoria 2

What are you faggots minging about, they're still working on it, check their GitHub

>>2024770
just faggots seething because the devs arent le heckin wholesome troonerinos

>>2025384
but of course

>>1990066
Project alice had troons and it literally beat openvic

>>1990433
>>1990474
>>1990473
>>1990472
The only progress they have it recreating victoria 2's ui and map. Openvic is not playable and it won't be for years, if ever.
Meanwhile Project Alice has already released.

>>1995458
>Firstly it only compiles on fricking Windows unless you go into their trooncord and ask for instructions (something I'm never ever going to do).
Victoria 2 is also windows native.
>Second it does not play faithfully to Vic 2 whatsoever. Even though it can run extremely fast, the market, the AI, and the wars do not behave like Vic2.
It does play faithfully and you don't know what you're talking about.
>The troop models aren't even on the map last I played.
Doesn't really matter since vic 2's model format is abysmal but PA reverse engineered it already.

>>2010964
>The game is only missing all of the core gameplay!

>>2033939
PA isnt a true one-to-one

>>2033939
last time I checked it was a broken mess, not an actually playable game

>>2033939
>>2033945
>open game
>1836
>austria declares several humiliation wars against south america and unciv countries
>france starts conquest war against US for no reason
>china thinks they can beat up iran
>all before game unpause
This is all in the "released" complete project btw.
Turns out you cant just emulate everything or you get a crude facsimile of what the game actually is.

>>2037422
vs openvic
>open discord
>look at the screenshots
>read the PDF
>dream about painting grossgermania

>>1987824 (OP)
doubt

>>2037775
nigga idc. do you think any one cares?
A delayed game is better than a rushed game yadda yadda.
Its not a PDF, you can compile OpenDick but none of the major mechanics are there.
Neither project is supposed to "win" over the other anyway. If we were gauging victory on authenticity to Vic2 then Trannice lost because their released code is junk because nothing in the game is reliably 1:1 with Vanilla Spick2.
While trannice exists in a playable form, you cant play project trannice and enjoy it. Its simply not possible.

They are so overly fixated on creating a 1:1 copy of vic2, that nothing will ever be good enough for their version of the game, a game that only exists to them because they can't move onto anything else and are stuck with the same group of people in an echo chamber that insists vic2 is perfect and does the best economic simulation ever, that it's a gift from god with no major issues. Their entire reason for building this fucking thing is to play stable mp, which is insane considering anyone who has played vic2 mp knows it's overrated shit that just becomes another blobbing simulator but with the benefit of having to care about your iron imports
I don't care if PA is living up to the gold standard that the subset of this vic2 fandom holds so dear, at least they aren't actively claiming themselves as the one true saviors of the game.

>>1988241
With these open-source projects you need to release a playable prototype so that project can gather a fanbase and momentum. That means more developers coming onboard, more people looking for bugs, more of everything. The worst thing you can do is try to run an open-source project like corporate, it just doesn't work that way. OpenMW gets that, Project Alice gets that, but OpenVic doesn't.

>>2046841
This is actually a good point tbqh, if you just recreate Victoria 2 verbatim but without the multiplayer desync issues... you are still left with a game that's not well suited for multiplayer and which has tons of singleplayer flaws.

>>1987824 (OP)
Why would you want 1:1 copy of V2 though? I love the game, there is nothing else quite like it, but it has major issues. The moment something better comes out, whether it's PA (currently the only thing missing is stable MP) or EU5, I'll happily take it.

>>2033939
I honestly can't bring myself to hate troons. The sheer autism redeems them in my mind, even if I don't believe they are women.

>>1988241
My problem with every fan project/remake is the handful of people making it are all turboautists who don't understand what made the original fun and proceed to butcher everything in an attempt to introduce "balance" (read: destroy the perfectly legitimate strategy they were too retarded to counter in the original).

>>2046841
>>2046853
>>2046855
>>2046857
>>2046858
>>2046977
>when you have no idea what something is about so you blindly hate it

>>1995458
>Firstly it only compiles on fucking Windows
Oh no, it only compiles of 98% of PC gamer's machines!

>>2046857
>Why would you want 1:1 copy of V2 though?
Because every attempt at making a copy of V2 "but better" is always worse.

>>2047229
Then you have game you want, it's called Victoria 2.

>>2047092
I have over 1000 hours on Vic2 + more outside Steam, I guarantee you I understand the game. It's massive jankfest that barely works, I am hyped for something better at this point.

>>2047092
>blindly hate it
take it from the horses mouth then, their entire basis for this project is to make vic2 but just have it run faster and not shit itself in an mp lobby.

>>2047639
that you up top, troon?

>>2013305
I do not need medication. I am healthy in mind, body and soul. I am talking generally, of I and likeminded individuals, who have had enough of what is going on, and we are going to take control. I see my playing of grand strategy games as training for my future career.

>>1987824 (OP)
I joined the server for this
>OpenVic has the following:
>>data loading,
>>map,
>>technology,
>>modifiers,
>>RGOs,
>>artisans,
>>government salaries,
>>pop consumption,
>>taxes,
>>markets & tariffs,
>>pathfinding,
>>most of the ingame UI,

>It still lacks:
>>factories,
>>AI,
>>conditions (in progress),
>>military upkeep,
>>loans & banks,
>>multiplayer,
>>construction
I'm not sure how much time this would need, but I guess another year at least

>>2050955
thank you for your sacrifice anon.
>I'm not sure how much time this would need
i wonder if they are going to release a beta or we will have to wait 5 years unless you are tech savvy enough to compile it yourself

>>2046977
Yea or they love the autistic garbage that everyone else hated, and keep ramming it into the game

see: people who liked micro'ing armies in victoria 2....

>>2046857
>>2046855
>>2046841
>>2046855
>t. retards
i'm pretty sure the point is to get a 1:1 open source vic 2 out the door so everyone can then do whatever they want with it afterwards, doing it this way also means all mods made on regular vic 2 will also be completely compatible with open source vic 2. Doing it this way also means less chance of the project falling apart before its done as there is a singular goal in mind, if they started changing shit before its done arguments over what should be changed could cause everyone to give up or split the project. and if it does fall apart despite this some other autists can just pick up where the current autists gave up

>>2051313
No. If that were the case they would have just stuck with Project Alice. They very specifically wanted it to copy Victoria 2 exactly because they're MP subhumans.

>>2051317
>No. If that were the case they would have just stuck with Project Alice.
you aren't beating the retard allegation

Chudgan and openvicky won by literally doing nothing and letting the trannyproject get mired in trannies trooning out. Project trannice is merely a crude mockery of what vicky2 is supposed to be and only delusional trannies would call it a successful project.

>>2051426
>is merely a crude mockery of what vicky2 is supposed to be
kek, it couldn't be more true

>>2051426
>troons are a mockery of what a woman is
>their work is also a mockery of whatever they are copying
seeing a pattern here

bump

>>2057312
>Magical native american wisdom
shitty trope

>>2057312
shark owns this retard

>>2050955
What is "conditions"?
Does it have to do with AI?

>>2051426
>>2051839
>>2051848
>>2057312
>>2057340
>>2057378

can some faggot explain why project alicia has no 'cord invite link?
I guess they aren't devving anymore.

OpvnVic VRYVNS WVN

>>1987824 (OP)
Can someone give me a qrd on all these meme projects? Alice, openvic, etc? Are any of them actually good and a replacement for normal v2?

>>2061984
>Alice
runs good, plays nothing like the original, the gui is utterly broken, has a billion bugs and incompatibilities with mods.
>OpenVic
doesn't exist yet, ask again in 3 years

>>2058076
This is the kind of clique sperg shit that makes me not participate in any Victoria 2 MP community despite it being my favourite game.

>>2064768
Tranny or reddit sperg which one?

>>2064768
What did that shitpost hurt your feelings, tranny?
You can't be serious, someone makes an effort post and you're disavowing an entire mode of a game lmao. /v/ levels of fragility on display.
I don't even play in MP games I just find the lack of principled criticism on OpenVic to be undeserved.
Besides, there is nothing inherently wrong with being in a pdx MP game with random people.
You're just scared of non-kosher opinions which is the most reddit behavior of all.
Maybe if you could stomach a few shitposts you wouldn't be such a massive pussy that you can't tolerate randos for a MP game.

The problem with some open source project is everyone has their own ideas and it'll just be a huge mess. You need a singular unified vision for it to work.

>>1987824 (OP)
Project Alice is more likely to come out.

>>2067700
It why I think OpenVic will come out more coherent and stable than Alice, since it's just making a more stable 1:1 recreation of Vic2 instead of trying to do any rebalances or mechanical changes