Which Civfu is for (You)? For me, it's Catherine.

I don't play civ. Are there no Asian ones?

coomers getting desperate

>>2048927

For me, it is Civ 4 Catherine.

>>2048936
Catherine is too cute to live no matter what game she's in

>>2048936
ah yes, the cavalry specialist

>>2048949
Is Catherine a horse girl?

>>2048926 (OP)
Catherine because she only has two gears on top of being hot: white shotas or cavalry units.

Theodora was prostitute and Catherine had multiple lovers. You all are cucked. lmao.

>>2049053
Catherine had multiple lovers but unfortunately this anon had zero.

>>2048926 (OP)
Did Isabela get the most generous depiction compared to real-life in Civ history?

>>2048950
>he doesn't know
https://youtu.be/6rUr-3UELSw?t=163

>>2048926 (OP)
I totally fell for Tomyris in my first civ6 game, playing as rome. She was a reliable ally for the entire game and I guess my army really was making her wet, judging by how frequently she complimented it.
It's such a shame she barely has any art at all.

>>2049072
She was probably even more ugly in real life.
Ironically enough they cast an absolute cutie to act as her in the Spanish "official" TV series.

>>2049107
Victoria was also horrible looking and the TV series has her actress be a cutie too.

>>2048926 (OP)
>Add Theodora in Civ V/VI
>Don't give her huge knockers
You had one job.

>>2049109
At one point her physician told her to go on a diet. And she ate the diet food on top of her normal meals.
Victoria by the time of her death was wider than she was tall.

>>2049109
They really make these royals as hot a a possible.
This is Isabella of Portugal, first wife of Charles the V.

>>2049118
DIMPLE SEXO

>>2049072
According to research done to her mummy, real-life Hatshepsut was morbidly obese and suffered from female pattern baldness.

>>2049194
>model Cleopatra
>call her Hatshepsut
I don't get Civ7's devs.

>>2049072
would

>>2048933
Wasn't she literally a sadist who killed and tortured lot of people? Also she made a few lick her delicious pussy in front of the court. Why they choose her? It's like choosing Da Ji

>>2049289
God forbid a woman has hobbies.

>>2049293
>me when Wu summon me

>>2049289
wouldnt she have been 40 years old tho

>>2049333
She still had her period because they make people lick her when she was all bloody so I don't think so

>>2048926 (OP)
I love Poland so much.

>>2049072
The more average a girl is the more it turns me on because it means other men aren't as attracted to her meaning higher chance of being her first. I blame influencers for doing this damage to me.

>>2049345
It would be "Oh" in Polish, not "Ah"
Also
>Famously died during childbirth due to abnormally small pelvis, confirmed by later archaeological examination
>Super-wide hips in Civ
One job. One

>>2049072
Christina is not pretty Civ6, but she was much uglier IRL.

>>2049356
*Och
Oh is a fucking anglicism

>>2049382
Had no Jewish blood and yet looks like an anti-semitic caricature straight out of Der Stürmer.

>>2049347
I like plain dog faced women because they'll look the same in 30 years while a 10/10 will crash hard

>>2049419
>What is aristocratic inbreeding

>>2049426
>t. only ever saw women outside of his family in porn
Newsflash, bitch: Plain Janes look even worse with age. Because they start from a low bar, it doesn't magically make them unable to get uglier - quite the fucking contrary. And they rarely put any effort to look presentable, too.

>>2049382
>a queen without a realm, a Christian without faith, and a woman without shame
This description of her by Pope Alexander VII will always amuse me. Especial since she ended up running away to Rome after Swedes chased her away from throne for converting to Catholicism.

>>2049289
>Why they choose her?
The same reason why a lot of female civ leaders got their spot, because she was one of the few if not only female ruler of her civ. Honesty I don't know what's worse. Having the leader spot be taken by literally-who just because of their sex or having the leader spot be almost always occupied by one of the few actually significant female rulers (see Spain, England and Russia).

>>2049433
>Le habsburg meme
Not every Euro aristocrat was inbred, and her family tree doesn't show any meaningful consanguinity. She was just standard ugly.

>>2049433
I'm too lazy to check but I'm pretty sure that Gustavus Adolphus and Maria Eleonora of Brandenburg (pic related) were not closely related. They both just did a really bad dice roll when it came to genetics they passed on.

>>2049699
>>Le habsburg meme
... which nobody, but (You) brought?
Ironically, she did carry Habsburg blood, but that was far lesser of a problem.

>>2049702
Then sorry to disappoint, but they both have matrilineal relatives from the House of Saxony from the exact same generation on their grandparents level. Just distant enough to not give birth to a pile of tumors. Just close enough to still fuck shit up.

>>2049699
Pretty much every single royal bloodline that wasn't French (but they've paid for that with having severe feudal fragmentation), major ducal Italian families and the Catholic part of HRE were inbred. Bonus points if they were from Iberia, Scandinavia or pre-18th century British Isles. Pretty much everyone was marrying to their cousins twice removed and hoped for the best, because in the end of the day, there are only this many people with a matching title, interests, shared religion and relative close distance.
One of the biggest reasons why end of war of religions by the late 17th century was so good is that it increased the number of viable marriage parties. so less inbred fucks on the thrones.

>>2049882
>on their grandparents level
You clearly have no idea how incest works on the genetic level. Grandparental relation is nothing. And one generation of incest has no impact on the children
Sometimes people are just ugly

>>2048926 (OP)

>>2050131
Turning this into actual mechanics when?

>>2050134
Just play Crusader Kings with a culture/religion that allows forcing prisoners as concubines.

>>2048926 (OP)
I should really download nudity mods for Civ5

>>2048936
I started playing Civ4 when I was around 13-14, let’s just say that Catherine awakened something in me for the first time. She’ll always have a special place in my heart.

>>2048926 (OP)
And I hate VI
>>2048936
Revolution for me

>>2050202
She's perfect.

>>2050171
>Play a worse game
No.

>>2048926 (OP)
I'm claiming her and her hips

>>2050131
Stop lewding Isabel.
She's a important historical figure of my country, not your fucktoy.

>>2050920
She's the fucktoy of the entire population after I subjugate your civilization's final city. Culture creep btw, she's completely enamored with my civ.

>>2050920
You got no idea what she does for a bit of gold.
https://files.catbox.moe/g3f3se.png

>>2048939
>Catherine is too cute to live no matter what game she's in
Just outed yourself as a civbabby zoomer.

>>2050997
WOULD.

>no boudicca yet
Bonus points for her being one of my favourite civs to play in V

>>2051063
She's great in 5 and has some great buffs. Plus you gotta love her tomboy charms.
>tfw literally all art is Fate

>>2051063
Boudica? More like Would Dick Her.

>>2051063
That look pretty good, shame Boudica is never going to get a costume or an alter. I blame Nasu as always
>>2051081
For me it's Wu Zetian

>>2049289
#girlboss

What are some good Civ5 mods? I've tried VP but I kinda want something more simple

>>2050054
So you come from Georgia or Alabama, bro?

>>2049289
... because she also happened to be one of the most competent people that ever ruled China, period. Both indirectly and directly.
Think about it: Chinks hate women. And they themselves still put her in top 10s and 5s best rulers they ever had.

>>2048926 (OP)
Catherine

I want to see her doing her thing with horses

>>2051295
What class of servant would you make her alt costume be? Also Wu is a total qt.

>>2052085
Really wow? My Wu Zetian not only is a qt but she's also competent!

>>2052375
Assassin or caster, always... maybe avenger but nah?

>>2052498
Dunno anon, a really buffed Berserker class would be cool. Imagine Boudica with a Dragon's Crown Amazon build.
>Captcha TRNS
lel

>>2050202

>>2048926 (OP)
Catherine.
t. horse

>>2051295
>loli
of course Anon, not even surprised.

>>2052533
Oh we were talking about Boudica? Then yeah, berserker, avenger or saber

I don't get the horse meme

>>2054579
there's an urban legend that Catherine the Great fucked a horse

>>2054579
Basically people around the time alleged that her life was a h-doujin.
>Fucked by horses
>Slept with countless men
>Conducted diplomacy by being a whore
It's a wonder that no one has tried to adapt all that 18th century propaganda by seething Turkroaches and Judeo-Angloids into a doujin series, it'd be unfathomably based.

>>2053764
What the fuck were they thinking? Civ7 devs got humiliated by nick fuentes of all the people.

>>2054725
>all that 18th century propaganda by seething Turkroaches and Judeo-Angloids
A lot of westerners of the 18th century generally thought that Russia is some kind of a wild and ultra degenerate semi-Mongolia stuck in the middle ages at best. I don't remember which early US president it was, but I recall reading that his opponents tried to slander him by claiming that he is trying to traffick American girls as concubines to Russia during his visit there like it was some oriental barbarianland out of a trashy adventure novel.

>>2054766
>Here's our propaganda
>That place is actually really cool and fun to adventure in!
Low IQ move desu.

>>2053764
DEI has gone too far.

>>2048926 (OP)
How'd I do, anons?

Should say as a disclaimer I only arrived in IV, and haven't touched the steaming pile of horseshit that is VII, I only know the appearance of the leaders from that game.

>>2055030
>Total Catherine sweep
Agreeable.

>>2054766
>Russia is some kind of a wild and ultra degenerate semi-Mongolia stuck in the middle ages at best
It was, wasn't it?

>>2054766
>A lot of westerners of the 18th century generally thought that Russia is some kind of a wild and ultra degenerate semi-Mongolia stuck in the middle ages at best
but enough about the tsar

>>2055030
where's VI Victoria? she should be wife-tier

>>2054766
21st century Russia is literally a wild and ultra degenerate semi-Mongolia stuck in the middle ages.

>>2055030
>Catherine
>Theodora
>wife material
You should really read up on your history anon

>>2055229
What do you have against Theodora other than being a former whore? By all accounts she was a loving and faithful wife to Justinian.

>>2055229
Catherine is one of history's cuties. Deal with it.

>>2055293
>Catherine is one of history's cuties
She really wasn't. Don't use artistic depictions of her in video games as your source for how historical figures may've looked.

>>2055315
There is nothing wrong with me basing all my views on historical figures off of defunct gacha games and I frankly do not care much for this kind of dubious behavior.

>>2055103
..Shit forgot about her. I'd be inclined to agree

>>2055229
I get where you're coming from anon, but if we're going by real world metrics instead of in-game metrics, nearly all leaders in the game would be awful

>Catherine
Cucked and/or executed

>Cleopatra
Cucked and suicid-ed

>Boudica
Probably murdered.

>Isabella
Burnt at the stake for heresy

>Wu Zetian
See Catherine

>Elizabeth
"Virgin Queen"

and so on...

>>2055229
Lol. Yea they cucked. I told them.

>>2055396
gaslight gatekeep girlboss

>>2055396
>Probably murdered
>You get murdered and you wife and daughter get raped by a roman regiment
That's so rough

>>2055710
Story of why Boudicca revolted, is pretty messed up. Basically her late husband, king of the Iceni tribe, offered to peacefully integrate into the Roman Empire. He issued a Will designating his two daughters and Roman Emperor (technically just a 'Princeps' at the time IIRC?) as his heirs. Romans used this as justification to pillage the Iceni capital.

It's worth noting that Dio's account of Boudicca's revolt was written a century after the event. Usually you'd want to spin yourself in the most positive light as possible, but he may have felt the need to pass at least some of the blame to his countrymen. Presumably relying on the common sense that a genocidal campaign against Romans (and anyone deemed too Romanized) was a disproportionate retribution. (Her kill count is assumed to have exceeded hundred thousand non-combatants?)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npwM2touF08

https://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/E/Roman/Texts/Cassius_Dio/62*.html

>>2055729
>king of the Iceni tribe
King of the incel tribe

>>2055710

>>2055030
hear me out, Maria Theresa's voice in V was lovely and I, uhhh...

but which has the best personality as enemy AI?

>>2055958
>Boudica goes aggressive on you
>Defeat her armies and humiliate her
>She's pissed and will try again and again
>Endless loop of tomboy humiliation rituals and equally humiliating peace treaties

Maria Theresa is one of the few girlboss leaders who was cucked (by her husband) instead of doing the cucking.

>>2056390
>your wife is possibly the most powerful monarch in the world
>still cheat
Nothing is good enough for men

>>2051063
Ehhhhh
She had one of the most one sided defeats in history.

>>2056390
Political marriages are rarely out of love

>>2056487
Hot desu. Historical Boudica 2koma.

>>2055229
theodora had bigger balls than justinian and was effectively a better emperor than he was
>s-she was a whore!!!
cope and sneed

>>2056553
>>s-she was a whore!!!
NTA but this makes her even more based. Anytime I learn about some bottom-feeder climbing to the top, it means they 100% deserved it

>>2055958
Theodora was always friendly to me in Civ 5 even when I forward-settled her land and sent my spies to her.

>>2056644
She's always very friendly, until she backstabs you

For me, it's Theodora's armpits

>>2055958
>nice natural wonder you got there within the borders of your new city, anon
>would be a shame if someone wanted to burn 100 turns of peace and goodwill for it

>>2058480
Is it because you like to be bullied or because you like 2koma?

>>2055396
>Jadwiga
Loyal and kind but dies in the first childbirth.

>>2058480
I find funny how in nearly 90% of games I had back in Civ V with spain present amont the civs at play, natural wonders just outright refused to appear, aside from Krakatoa in the middle of the fucking ocean.

>>2048926 (OP)
Why do you think Elizabeth was a virgin the entire time?

>>2060085
I don't think she actually was. I bet she fucked and just hid it well

>>2049215
Cleopatra was mostly Greek, and had literally zero Egyptian ancestry. She probably looked completely different compared to how she is usually depicted in popular culture.

>>2060864
Ptolemaic Egypt is almost always depicted like bronze age Egypt, the average normie probably doesn't even know there was a difference.

>>2055030
Who's middle of 'hear me out'?

>>2052085
she got her position by scheming and enacted a bunch laws favoring women, thats why feminists love her.
Imagine 99,99% of your historical rulers being men but in this game that country is always represented by a woman, pure communist propaganda material.

>>2061556
Civ 6 Elizabeth, duh

>>2061558
Mao was the main Chinese representative until Civ 4 anon. Wu Zetian is the sole Chinese leader only in 5.

>>2048933
Basado. Wish she enjoyed more fanart love. Horrible what they did to her in 6. These series is so fucked.

>>2063428
Everyone was hit pretty hard with the ugly stick in 6. It's possibly the worst of the bunch but 7 might have lower lows.

>>2056390
nigga, her cunt spat out 16 little shits. Any man would want to feel some friction again after that.

>>2060864

Old peplums and French comedies have more faithful representations of Cleopatra than current "popular culture".

>>2061631
>>2061558
>pure communist propaganda material.
Mao *and* Stalin both got replaced by women lmao

I wanna suck Kamehameha's cock ngl

>>2064824
t. Catherine and possibly Boudica.
Said the same to Shaka too fr fr.

>>2055030
Personally I think that the japanese shaman queen in VII is very underrated. Also, where is Tomyris?

>>2063428
chun-li tier legs

>>2063428
not fridge-shaped enough to be a chink

>>2060864
Ancient sources pretty uniformly describe her as looking average to ugly; her allure was that she was such a powerful and influential woman but was apparently willing to sleep with enough men that you might actually have a chance with her along with subsequent bragging rights. She was given the nickname "Meriochane" by contemporaries, which I recommend anybody who doesn't already to know to look up the meaning.

>>2064962
>Looks it up
>Cleopatra was a h-doujin fem protag

>>2051271
Who hasn't?

>>2064796
>>2064962
What is a ten thousand cock stare supposed to look like anyways?

>>2064962
>>2065390
So Caesar "seducing" her wasn't really much of an achievement, huh

Women really are incapable of getting power without either being born into it or fucking their way into it.

>>2055030
>missing civ4’s Elizabeth I

No love for original CivIV spies?
As a kid I used to have lewd ideas about what happens in their "interrogations" after they are captured.

>>2066531
Civ2 spy.
Underrated.

>>2064962
>King fucks thousands of whores
le good and based
>Queen fucks thousands of men
VGH digusting

>>2066893
Both are hot.
>captcha contains JAV

>>2065874
I think you’re looking at it backwards, Anon. Caesar was the one who got seduced, Cleopatra was the one putting in the effort to court him.
Same shit happened to Marc Antony.

>>2066893
That’s patriarchy and double-standards for you. Give it enough time and some scrote will stumble in with that insipid key and lock analogy.

>>2066893
>>King fucks thousands of whores
>le good and based
No one says that though

>>2064962
Why don't you just include the meaning in your post

>>2054744
>Civ7 devs got humiliated by nick fuentes of all the people.
what happend?

>>2070370
DEI policies kicked in and they decided to go full Concord instead of making everyone hot like in Civ5.

>>2070396
asure but the biggest problem is that the game shoukd be called immortal ruler instead of civilization since instead of leading a civilization from the stone age into the future you play as an immortal ruler who switch theor civs.
it's just so unapealing.
one of the civ frachise biggets misstake was adding multiple leaders per civ back in civ iv, it moved the focus away from the leader being just an avatar/personification of their civilization

>>2070396
Was Civ 3 designed with DEI policies? Everyone there was hideous and make Civ 7 leaders look like supermodels.

>>2070524
No but 6 was, mostly.

A 4x H-game seems like a hidden niche waiting to be exploited. Imagine defeat dialogue + a scene after conquering a woman leader's last city. You could get away with having mostly text for events and shiet

>>2070475
That one alone made it a no-buy for me, never ever. Refuse.

>>2070524
I think those are entirely different.
3 goes for a very grounded, mostly realistic look (for the time and overall style). No one's particularly attractive, but I don't think it's an issue for that game when no one's going for it. I don't think it's an issue in 1 either, or 4 where a lot of people also looked rather plain for the most part.
The more modern ones however feel stylized the way you usually get when a consulting firm was involved. It's obviously stylized, but in a way that makes it worse more often than not. It'd be better if they didn't even try, at least then I wouldn't think about it.

>>2070696
Ehem. Picrel.
But yes we need more of this. Sengoku Rance is actually really great, my favorite in the series. It's a really enjoyable turn based strategy game.

>>2070370
https://nitter.poast.org/NickJFuentes/status/1889419186767540324
He ratio'd the video posted by the official civ account in which they showed their hecking diverse team (white women with colored hair, brown men and limp-wristed faggy white men) and bullied them into deleting the post, I can't find the original video anymore.
It was funny to see two fags fighting.

I want to put my it in her armpits

>>2066893
You have any idea how much of a pussy you sound like?

>>2071099
your tongue?

I wanna suck kamehameha's juicy brown cock while he strangles me with his thick muscular legs

>>2072990
I hope a kamehameha blasts you away from our wholesome thread about Cleopatra sucking a billion cocks.

>>2050994
That pic always comes to my mind when I think of the Civ games.

What if civfu, but pregnant?

>>2049289
>Wasn't she literally a sadist who killed and tortured lot of people?
So just like the average Chinese emperor?

>>2070807
Eiyuu Senki is also decent for that. Absolutely nowhere near Sengoku Rance's level, though, and also at least in the first one there's a frustrating number of characters you can't fuck.

>>2074284
>One time when she [Theodora] went to the house of a notable to entertain during drinks, they say that when the eyes of all the diners were upon her she mounted the frame of the couch by their feet and unceremoniously lifted up her clothes right there and then, not caring in the least that she was making a spectacle of her shamelessness. Even though she put three of her orifices to work she would impatiently reproach Nature for not making the holes in her nipples bigger than they were so that she could devise additional sexual positions involving them as well. She was often pregnant, but by using almost all known techniques she could induce immediate abortions.

>>2074359
That bullshit is from Procopius, who hated her for getting so powerful.

>>2074385
>t. Justinian

>>2074351
Never played it.
Also question: isn't there a Wiki for the ES gacha with all the hundreds of characters listed? Tried finding it for this thread but I couldn't. All the Wikis I can find are for the gold version or something. None have Catherine in them and likely not a lot of other qts. Sad!

>>2074359
I too wish I could fuck Theodora's giant nipple holes.

>>2048926 (OP)
Shaka's massive black schlong
Kamehameha's juicy thick brown cock

>>2074607
Shaka on Catherine after her entire, massive modern army was bested by a few elite Impi units.
Make it happen.

Are advisors just part of ruler's harem?

>>2055030
>Civ leaders don't even look at you anymore
God, Civ 7 is such a trashfire

>>2077045
cultural advisor gave me pajeeta fetish

>>2077068
or was she called foreign (kek) advisor

>>2053764
my first (and only) playthrough of civ7 was Harriet starting as Egypt and choosing that combination might've been the most fun part of the game

>>2077069
She is called the foreign advisor, but she is practically a cultural advisor. Probably named like that because of Tourism.

>>2077045
Yes.

>>2077076
We WUZ pharaohs n shiet

>>2074359
>nipple penetration
Unnnnnnnf hot

>>2060864
>Cleopatra was mostly Greek
So she was brown?

>>2078003
Anon, that only happened after centuries of Turkish rape gangs browning Greece (hot btw).

>>2049433
not a thing in her case, dumb mutt

>>2064962
>average to ugly
You're just trying to be overly contrarian

>>2078081
Turks are just muslim greeks. Both have always been on the melinated side.

>>2082370
Either that or just porn sick.

>>2082430
No, Greeks tend to be more on the white side than the majority of Turks, especially from deeper into Anatolia. But you know, in aggregate. Not like skin tones come in a one-size-fits-all package especially for very large countries. Also, you're responding to someone's thristpost so you shouldn't take it too literally.

>>2082456
If Turks are browner they are browner because of the middle eastern genes, not Turkic, which is quite diluted at this point. Anatolians are just that - Anatolians, but they changed their language and had their blood mixed some over millennias.

>>2082737
Sounds like someone whose ancestors got fucked by Turks would say as a cope.

>>2049503
Isabella and Elizabeth I were the ones who put their respective countries on the world map, so I consider it fair.

>>2083948
You can say the same about Catherine and some other picks too and several of these go back to Civ 1 and 2, well before the kind of agenda pushing ayrt is referring to. So I think a lot of them are valid.

elizabeth only survived because the spanish armada was retarded

>>2074359
t. proCope

i wan't Boudicca to spank and pegg me infront of her fellow celtic women while making me call her daddy

>>2084155
Anon what the fuck

>>2084155
you know maybe pegging is gay

It's super fucking gay.
Anon is gayer than the guy that wanted to suck Kamehameha's cock.

>>2084192
>>2084194
these post reek of insecurity

Civilzation Revolution has some of the best designs for Cleopatra and Catherine, look them up if you somehow missed them. That game had no right being as fun as it was for a console exclusive. Cleopatra though, jesus christ.

>>2084343
this post reeks of child molestation

>>2084371
Every accusation is a confession

>>2084351
You weren't lying. People really were sleeping on this one but they're great. Actually dare to show some cleavage too.

>>2084389
>no u
Bro you literally said you wanted to be pegged, fuck off.

>>2084343
normally i defend pegging but that daddy thing made me realize it might be gay

>>2084396
I know Greeks are a little swarthy but don’t you think that Cleopatra is a bit excessively dark there?

>>2085094
You're factually correct.
But also, she's perfect for big Roman cock.

>>2074284
do you have to give them half of your kingdom?

>>2074284
women poop during childbirth

>>2085106
the only thing big about Romans was their empire, they were actually on record whining about how barbarians would make fun of how tiny Roman men were

>>2086251
>Source
>Literal Barbarians that sacked Rome

>>2086388
The source is Caesar himself.

>"The Romans formed a line of mantlets and constructed a siege terrace. When they began to erect a siege tower at some distance, the defenders on the wall at first made abusive remarks and ridiculed the idea of setting up such a huge apparatus so far away. Did those pygmy Romans, they asked, with their feeble hands and muscles, imagine that they could mount such a heavy tower on top of a wall? (All the Gauls are inclined to be contemptuous of our short stature, contrasting it with their own great height.) But when they saw the tower in motion and approaching the fortress walls, the strange, unfamiliar spectacle frightened them into sending envoys to ask Caesar for peace. The envoys said they were forced to the conclusion that the Romans had divine aid in their warlike operations, since they could move up apparatus of such height at such a speed." ― Gaius Iulius Caesar, The Conquest of Gaul

You are now aware of the fact that the entire Roman conquest was fueled by manlet rage toward much taller chad barbarians who kept bullying them, sacking Rome and taking their women.

>>2086388
Hunter-gatherers being generally taller and healthier than farmers has been objectively proven. Farmers won the history because it enables higher population growth, and a lot of weak and sickly men wins against less strong and healthy men.

>>2082861
No, I live on the other side of Europe.
It's just reality. Turks are mostly Anatolians speaking a Turkic language.

>>2086453
Gauls weren't hunter gatherers though, they were also settled agricultural societies. But by this point Rome was the most urban society in the world (barring microscopic city states) and urbanites are even smaller, weaker, and less healthy than farmers. The Roman army was also disproportionately comprised of the urban poor rather than the relatively healthy and wealthy rural population.

>>2086689
>urbanites are even smaller, weaker, and less healthy than farmers
it only seems that way because urban environments in the west are currently teeming with first-generation third-worlders who are below-average height due to malnutrition and are dragging down total average height by quite a lot

>>2086939
As it happens, in the 90s, there were studies showing that urban people tended to be taller than rural people. That stopped being true in the West recently, but still holds true in low and middle-income nations.

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2804001
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25104494/

Civ 4 uses the .nif format for it's 3d models which is the same used by Bethesda games, so it should theoretically be possible to export the body mesh from some sexy NPC replacer mod for Skyrim and put it in Civ 4 for even sexier custom leader models, although the skeletons are probably different so the animations wouldn't work. And if the leader animations are pre-rendered it wouldn't be possible anyways.

>>2086950
>That stopped being true in the West recently,
Hmm, I wonder why that could be. Sounds anti-Semitic.

>>2087196
Anon is cooking.

>>2048926 (OP)
Indian slop the thread.

>>2048926 (OP)
I want Elizabeth I to DESTROY me

>>2084155
>Very well.

>>2086939
>>2086950
I don't think you understand how bad the conditions were in cities before the turn of the 19th century. Rome was pretty much the safest, cleanest, and richest city ever built before 1900 (and incidentally had the world's first mass public welfare programme) and the proles were still far poorer and more diseased than the rural farmers. Cities prior to modern times only grew due to continued inward migration from rural areas. Disease and starvation were so rife that death rates essentially without exception vastly outstripped birth rates.

>>2048926 (OP)
The only thing keeping me attached to civ 6 was it crashing before I could complete a run on PS.

>>2077045
>Leader does diplomacy in person with every single other leader but for some reason needs some broad dressed to the nines to act as 'foreign advisor'
>Can single-handedly micro-manage an entire fucking empire down to determining which tiles are being cultivated in individual cities but for some reason need another broad to act as 'economic advisor'
>Both advisors advice is absolute shit the majority of the time
Yeah now that I think about it, their jobs pretty much exist of looking pretty and fucking the ruler

>>2095298
Thanks for bumping the thread up from what I can only assume was page 10 to inform us of this obvious fact.

>>2055229
Theodora was a good wife to Justinian. You just gotta excuse her past.