Thread 2056772

Playtested and Balanced edition

Old: >>2050511

>>2056772 (OP)
new thread, new post asking for handcannoneers to be buffed

>>2056772 (OP)
What's so good about Khitans? I haven't tried them yet

>>2056776
Everything basically.

>>2056776
>food eco is like 80% better than the next best civ
>khmer farms
>mass scouts like crazy
>early heavy cav
>blacksmith effects doubled means power spikes are unmatched
it's not even fair

>>2056772 (OP)
fuck trade cogs
fuck chickens
fuck vills

>>2056783
t. vipur

>>2056782
Are two vils on a pasture more food per min than two vils on two farms?

>>2056792
Yes, but it also costs 50 wood per vil rather than 60, and they drop off to the pasture meaning no travel time
It's Khmer and Teutons in one

Am I the only one who disables small trees and grid view when playing single player campaigns?

>>2056795
This can be nerfed by lowering the gather rate.

>>2056798
I don't use small trees or perma grid view even in ranked

Hera researches supplies btw

>>2056830
@grok is this true

>>2056786
>fuck vills
only one I agree with

>>2056864
CHOPPA

I've made some changes, thanks for the feedback last time

never seen it this bad

>>2056886
>I lost to Wei as a Byz
I'm ending it.

Are you niggers capable of waiting until your previous thread reach page 10 before making a new one, or is there competition with Paracucks over who shit up the board the most going on?

>>2056886
what the fuck is that vertical collumn it has a lot more squares than civs

>>2056931
No it's just that the names aren't displayed because they would overlap.

>>2056931
you're a clever boy, you can figure it out

>>2056776
A lot of the work comes from the improved shepherd/herder gathering rates, on top of the advantages pastures already provide (no mill required, cheaper per villager, space, minimal movement) - but these combined with the military bonuses essentially triple-up Scouts while still being able to produce Spearmen and Skirmishers faster too. Then in Castle, it's Heavy Cav Archers or +4 Fire Lancers, a lack of Bloodlines isn't holding Khitans back at all.

>>2056943
Just build spear and skirm lmoa

>>2056883
pufferfish man is cool but a bit of an awkward fit for a UU, what is his role exactly? killing cav while tanking archer fire?

Alright alright alright

>>2056864
>tfw no regional unit skins for more Villagerfus

Which way, aoe man?

>>2056866
Rogan?
>>2056999
how would that work?
full new male/female costumes depending on culture or just recolouring their skin/hair to change their ethnicity while keeping the classic shorts for men generic dress for women combo?

>>2057002
RoR
it's more convenient, less clunky and has a new civ
unless you're dead set on playing one of the original campaigns that didn't get ported, there's no reason to ever get DE

>>2057003
Ideally the latter for readability's sake, but subtle changes in the outfits would be the best of both worlds.

>>2057003
>>2057008
is male/female vill pop random or alternating?

>>2057012
If you're asking how the game determines the Villager's gender when it starts getting trained, it's wholly random.

>>2056774
What if we put them on a horse and make them fire 15% faster

strange that aoe2 only had one other game use its game engine, with how popular aoe2 is and all

>>2057033
>strange
really isn't, technology was advancing leaps and bounds back then and aoe2 came out right before 3D RTS engines became the norm and looked extremely outdated just a few years after release

>>2057033
BG remake never EVER

is infantry good yet

>>2057034
which is funny because the last generation of 2.5d sprite games visually aged way better than the early 3d games
>AoE II
>Rollercoaster Tycoon II

>>2057042
Yes very much so if you're a civ that specializes in them.
In fact I'd say swordsmen are good even if your civ only has a food bonus and gambesons.

Slav MAAs eat through production buildings. Mix in ARCHERS in feudal, not skirms, so you can bully repairing villagers.
In Castle age knights still win but mixing swords and pikes can be useful to keep pressure on their stables. Get in the Rams asap and garisson longswords in them for TC snipes. Release the soldiers if any vills try to melee the rams down.

>>2057033
I played so much Galactic Battlegrounds as a kid (against the easy AI of course)

>>2057002
RoR in earnest. Far more game settings accessible, and the newer campaigns for it are at least of higher quality than the originals and their DE edits.

>>2057007
The 'original' campaigns in DE outright have a good many scenarios that are completely different, even RoR has some edits on what it did import. Shit's all different.

T90 is the only reason I have in AoE.
He makes me consider installing the game just to get into his LEL glory hole. Or hall of fame, whatever it's called.

>>2057002
>definitive edition
>isn't the definitive edition

>>2057002
AoE1DE has no formations
AoE2 RoR has formations

The answer is imediately clear. I won't even start with hotkeys and the like.

>>2056772 (OP)
wei bros...
what happened...

>>2057002
I'm a longtime AoE1 chad and I'll admit I prefer RoR. Too many QoL features, and if I publish scenarios there will probably be way more people to play them in RoR than AoE:DE. In fact, out of the 150 hours or so I've played AoE2 on Steam, I've spent at least half of that in RoR.
That said, I still go back to AoE1 but mostly for the campaigns.

>>2057003
Just make every brown civ male vill look like a karambit

>>2057002
AOE1 + UPatch HD > both
AOE2 needs to port the remaining campaigns and add back the missing vegetation and fauna skins

>>2057121
>AOE1 + UPatch HD
BASED

>>2056798
I never use small trees.

lol

>>2057021
genius. lets get someone right on it.

>>2056776
KhmerSlavTeutons farms at once, castle age attack upgrades in feudal age, imperial age attack upgrades in castle age, faster production rate of scouts and skirms.
scouts+skims combo and they really got good combo

>>2057042
Only good in post Imp as a counter to trash (just like it always was).

>>2057187
screenshot for ants

>>2057253
jesus christ lmao
who are the last 2?

>>2057264
Wei and Gurjaras

How do you cope with your country being shit in AoE2?

my country isnt in aoe2

>>2057253
at least they don't have bloodlines
>>2057268
by having good campaign

>>2057266
Why does Hera rate Georgians if their winrate is so shit?

Despite AOE2 and 4 covering the same time period I think it's important to note the difference in design philosophies between the two. While in 2 the civs are same-ish, with differences mostly being certain techs/units not being available to one civ or another, as well as bonuses being mostly tweaks to existing numbers, all of these for the purpose of making it easier for the players to familiarise themselves with the game and to be able to understand the opponent on a basic level, in 4 you have wildly different playstyles between civs, for those who think the civs in 2 are too copy/paste. Both games cover specific playerbase niches.

>>2057268
by having a country less than 300 years old so it doesn't appear in AoE2

i just beat barbarossa mission 5 on hard mode. yeah, i'm kind of a big deal.

>>2057314
>4 you have wildly different playstyles between civs
Oh yea which flavor of the same ligh / shock cavalry, spear infantry, sword infantry, archer or crossbowman do you want?

>>2057347
can i pick joan of arc with a gun

>>2056782
>Transhumance
wtf they're turning people into livestock to eat?

>>2057309
they resisted Islamic conquest, sheik Hamzah El-Baher doesn't like it when infidels do that

>>2057362
sexy

>>2057364
true, but Rusudan was cuter

>>2057366
not from that angle, no.

>>2057367
you are objectively wrong

>>2057368
nah, she's not bad but queen tamar is sexier. maybe there's an uglier pic of tamar that could change my mind, but from what you've posted she's better.

>>2057369
play the campaign yourself anon, it's fun

>>2057374
>>2057374
dont have the georgian/armenian dlc.

>>2057359
only trans humans

>>2057309
Because it's an old video prior to several updates. Georgians would be like b tier now and khitans would be s+++ tier

>>2057390
tf u talking about? that video is a couple of weeks old

why does the thread die for 2 hours every time i post?

>>2057431
i didnt reply because your post is retarded. a lot changes in just a few weeks after a new dlc is released. if you look at the video, it doesnt have any 3chinkdoms civs in it.

Yesterday I played a game on Hideout and I won. But I didn't get any elo. I played several games after this and elo was registered. Still no elo today. What gives? You can see on the screenshot that the opponent called gg and then resigned.

>>2057433
georgians are not just gonna drop to B tier because of 5 new civs
thats not how it works