Thread 2078756

>it's out
ok it's not out but it will be out once steam stops sending it back for moderation

God, I wish Kremlin games hired some UI artists and a broken English to English translator.

GABEN PLEASE

>>2078953
the demo had good-ish UI though
looks modern
plus the old games had soul

>>2078958
why did he do it
WHY

>>2078960
It's better but still not good.
Looks like TNO "gameplay" with workers and resources UI.
https://youtu.be/L3STcfv-7ec?feature=shared&t=487

>>2078756 (OP)
>Communism game
>it's delayed

>>2078997
Why did they draw corn man like a nigger?

>>2079010
nigger cartoon

>>2078997
>when capitalists force you to stand in the vidyaline

>>2078976
well you can know see what increasing or decreasing spending does, and what are the consequences of a choice
I don't like that some are percentage based though, I don't like random rolls

July 11th

JULY? ffs steam

>>2079930
they picked that date so it would be after the sales retard, not steam
once it's approved they can pick whatever date they want

>>2079941
This shit has been ready since June 16th. And I want it on my account YESTERDAY.

>>2079930
Does anyone remember the original release date? (before they kept pushing it back again and again) This is clearly some Russian Commie trick so they can keep delaying it, the real question is do you think their sneaky Bolshevik minds will find a way to push it back again?

>>2080048
no idea, I remember finding out about the rework months ago so when I checked yesterday I was just happy it was releasing soon
who cares if it's delayed, the demo shows the systems are there

>>2080053
>who cares if it's delayed
BECAUSE I NEED TO SAVE HIM

>>2080062
I mainly want to shoot gorbachev

>>2080067
The last thing wine spill will see are these asiatic eyes

>>2080067
>>2080069
I thought of a better one

>>2080048
May 21st.

>>2080067
Remember... when you see "Sverdlovsk colonel", that's Yeltsin.

>>2080186
What could they possibly have worked on during this time? There better be events coded up to 2030 to make this worth it.
>>2080188
On that topic, what is the best way to purge all the undesirables? Is it as simple as replacing them all? I remember getting rid of Gromyko because he wouldn't let me carpet bomb Afghanistan but I'm guessing it is more complicated then a hoi4 style switch if I wanted to do all of them.

>>2080315
Click the "More Info" button under their portrait. You're going to have to conduct harassment and maybe a conspiracy to send them into political exile. There's also a choice of conspiracy to switch their sympathies, as well as options to conduct training. Might want to check their ages, because Soviet Union is a gerontocracy, and most of these guys are on their death's doorsteps.

one more week until it totally releases bros frfr this time

>>2084182
don't jinx it or i'm mailing you a present

>explore the demo
>go to Appoint option for a minister
>check minister traits
>they completely change depending on position
Jesus Fucking CHRIST!

>demo is only like 2 years long
>my economy is already starting to crash

>>2086687
>xhe didn't find 3 trillion tons of gold under the bed so the reserve never runs out and everything can be maxxed out

>>2078756 (OP)
>it's out
It's been out, on Steam it says I last played it in 2017 (because it was shit)

holy fucking KINO. historical TNO with only some plausible alt history has been my pipe dream for a long, long time. this is fucking amazing.

>>2086693
we're talking about the super mega giga awesome remaster though, you useless shitter with shit taste

>>2079020
Boomers really were retarded

two more days until a total repressive communist dictatorship is implemented and the west is destroyed

Seems like you can reconcile with China. Wonder if there's a way to just kick their shit in in a full on war and make them your vassal too.

>>2090026
I don't think any of these games allowed that
Only to keep China from going reformist by assassinating Deng

>>2090285
That's just Ostalgie. Refusing to liberalize in the original Crisis, you can get the choice to criticize China when they start to liberalize, and get the Tiananmen Square incident, starting an event chain that may cause them to lose Xinjiang and Tibet. That's about it.

>>2090285
You mean reconciliation? When I went through the demo with Romanov I got an event about diplomatic relations that allowed me to pick between focusing on relations with one of France, China and America. Picking that I managed to roll the outcome where the Chinese start preliminary unofficial talks about mending Soviet-Chinese relations. I assume there'd be more events down the line where you have to jack them off until you manage to get them to agree. There's buttons to invite China to COMECON, the Warsaw Pact etc as well so I can only assume you can sway them to your side some way or another.

>>2090356
Don't assume the demo will simply be the same with time limit removed. Check every button for new hidden conditions. The original game had an exception for China being in Comecon on the condition alliance management doesn't go above United, but Sovereign. No Economic Unification with China for you.

>>2090361
make them join and then unify
the fuck are they going to do, break away? that's revolt and the army will be deployed to normalize the situation

>>2078756 (OP)
>once steam stops sending it back for moderation
redpill me on this

>>2090371
Nothing major, some technical problems, apparently. This is on Unity, after all.

IT'S OUT

>>2090681
it said like 10 more hours wtf

>>2090683
the five year plan was completed ahead of schedule

Never played the original. God this game plays dull. Might refund after less than an hour. Does it get better?

>>2091000
I mean it's a very specific game
if you don't like it why buy it, making choices and clicking buttons is the entire thing

>need to lower my government type to wannabe hippy soviet democracy to push through full OGAS
what a retarded limitation
I have everything else maxed out and I rule by decree, if I say things are going to get automated they will

>>2091000
Its an mspaint skitzobabbble soviet beurocracy sim, its not for everyone

>>2091296
I see wannabe authoritarians are still idiots.

>>2091000
>he can't appreciate late era soviet politic schizo
it's just not a game for you and that's okay.

>authority is spent on everything from not surrendering to the Americans in every international event to the slightest bit of reform regarding the food industry
>Every event is locked behind the authority that you will not have to spend on it
Also China can suck my fat Romanov cock, Afghanistan is mine so fuck off. Just buy my oil and I'll buy your factory shit, stop being gay.

>>2091432
Oh ho. No, China got nerfed hard from the demo. The good news is - you can trigger a civil war, and yoink all Tibet, Xinjiang, Inner Mongolia, Hui and Manchuria.

>>2091438
I genuinely do not want to do that, they can be Maoist or Dengist or whatever and they don't even need to be in Comecon or the Pact as long as they buy my shit and I can buy theirs. I do not care about Africa or Latin America outside Gaddafi and Castro respectively, I tentatively care about Vietnam but the Eastern Bloc and Afghanistan are the only ones important to the USSR's survival. North Korea also, they are cool. I also don't even know which awful army I should choose between Iraq and Iran, Saddam has the Left Nationalism thing going on but Iran has a great position. Do you know if you can commie coup the Iranians (WITHOUT CAUSING ANOTHER AFGHANSITAN, THIS IS IMPORTANT)

Is there a specific date I should wait till before courting the Chinese? When does the Split 70 cap go away?

Is it worth trying to fix the economy early or should I just try to keep the ship afloat until events get the ball rolling for me.

>only Kosolapov
Are there any more Stalinists you can get or do I need to sway everyone over?

>>2091472
at least you have one to start with. I'm a few years in and I still haven't seen a single National Democrat.

fuuuck
everything was going well and then in late 1987 my economy just imploded. I'm not even sure what happened, I just burned through my entire reserve in a few months.

>>2091488
Honestly it seems crazy that they included monarchists even as a concept. Not that I oppose that but the game starting in 85 really limits that kind of thing. Maybe a later start date but even then I don't see it.

Is reviving Bukharin's politics good as Romanov? The check needs moderates (which I get) but what else is possible as Conservatives? Can you change you politics? Romanov is described in game as a Conservative Reformer so it's such a leap as expecting the ability to turn Winespill into a Stalinist.

>>2091510
*so it's not such a leap

>>2091444
Stop LARPing. Money don't stink.

>play game
>stop being a person for 8 hour straight
The power of gsg.

>>2091472
Romanov flips himself. Not sure if by event or what. Otherwise, yeah.

>>2091524
>stop larping
>in a game about the cold war
FUCK YOU, TAKE ME BACK NOW. Genuinely though, if I play enough grand strategy games set in the past then I might be able to save the future. This time for sure.
>>2091525
When you play as him or have him in your politburo? Does that work with others?

comrades
did he deserve to die

>>2091531
No, he just does it after you pick Kosolapov. I dunno, if it's part of one of the events, but only Romanov gets it. It might be a hidden stat, since you can actually investigate the real alignments in the politics tab.

>>2091538
That's interesting, Kosolaov is quite the effort to shape into being useful at the real level of power so having an established Stalinist would make that much smoother.

>>2091497
true to life

acknowledge Palestine?
>yes
>no
>no but we'll nuke Israel

>>2091411
>wannabe
sorry but I'm not dealing with convincing 78 year old men when I'm trying to change doctrines, Helmsman's Authority and Dictated by the Ruler it is

>tried to play as a market liberal
>ran out of money
>tried to play as a social patriot dictator
>ran out of political power
darn.

>workshop open
kino mods incoming

>>2091578
>I'm gonna bankrupt myself trying to fix corruption and forgery and from constant low relations events with the West
You do you.

>>2091585
the west collapsed years ago, what corruption and forgery?

>>2091582
>different date starts
>different country choices
Kino, in general, is coming.

>>2091587
can't wait for the mod that replaces everyone with a cute anime girl

Gigabased

>>2091706
that's tsar decision was so fucking hilarious

>>2091706
Monarcho-socialism is simply the best

>>2091588
Finally a mod that makes the game playable. Would it also change the ages and names of the characters?

>>2091722
I presume you can mod everything, given that you can create your own character at the start and customize him with portraits and everything

>>2091722
You are GAY

>>2091736
a stalinist dictatorship is only complete when the entire politburo is shotas and lolis(because we're all about gender equality)

>>2091536
yes

>>2091567
he kind of looks like sminem

>>2091738
this would be a kino anime. isekai'd into the USSR as the general secretary but everyone is a cute girl/boy or possibly cute girl (boy)

>>2091763
>as general secretary
Nah, true kino would be MC being reincarnated as an NKVD agent. Why NKVD, you ask? Because they had a cooler aesthetic than KGB.

>>2091763
It already is an anime.

do the non-Gorbachev starters have anything going for them? I'm just seeing five conservative/moderates.

is there a book i can read to understand who any of these politicians are?

>>2091810
What is Andropov doing lmao
>>2091953
They have a wiki link on their portraits, more info maybe.
>>2091827
Chernenko has more political authority and you can rehabilitate Stalin on the second month which will allow you to get Albania in the Warsaw Pact after Hoxha's funeral. Not sure about the rest other then just different politics.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBPnvPUYbb8

WHOM THE CPSU WILL EAT?

>>2091985
>Andropov doing
Being on a sign? Are you confusing him with Brezhnev (up top), or Honecker (bottom)?

>>2091763
>General Secretary-sama, revisionists are at the gate and trying to take over the city!
>Where is KGB-kun?
>E-etto, he said he was looking into getting Gorbachev assassinated so he would be busy for a while...

>>2092092
Damn you're right, Honecker forming a new Axis?

Shouldn't Volodymyr Shcherbytsky be a Stalinist?

>>2092154
Compared to Romanov? Nah.

>>2092160
From what I have seen of Volody it states he was a neo-Stalinist, I can see him as just being a hardline conservative but with Chernenko and Romanov already present I don't why they shouldn't include him as a Stalinist. Also what did Romanov do that was so Stalinist? All I have heard is he was a technocrat conservative rather then a return to the 40s type.

>>2092163
That's just Ukrainian nationalist seething. In the twilight of CPSU, wreckers like Gorbachev and his ilk were deathly afraid of anyone who was against dismantling the Soviet system.

It's like current American politicians/newspapers shidding and farding and calling anyone and everyone they don't like a socialist.

I'm actually not sure what the devs obsession with Romanov is. Besides the fact that he was Gorbachev's rival and also a young cadre from Andropov, trying to reform the Soviet Union. But if your goal is based Fully Automated OGAS Luxury Space Gay Communism, he's your guy in every one of their games.

Can't wait for rebalancing and patches, btw.

>you can just crown a Tsar as a communist, you just have to wait until 1993, because..? Free bonuses?
>Government control of religion is actually strong as fuck
>Christianity = free money
Devs be wildin.

What does "for every 10 < 100, bad things happen" mean in this game?

>>2092430
Learn to read? The red text and the -'s tell you.

>always have consumer/luxury good shortage
>cheat engine budget to over 1k light industry
>still have luxury good shortage
Uhh how do the mechanics in this game work?

>>2092440
Check your Meat Shortage modifier. It's capping your goods.

>if only Gorbachev checked the Meat Shortage modifier the Soviet Union would have been saved
it isn't fair bros...

>>2092450
Are ya skill issue'd, son?

Remember to do ideological outreach, then coup for that sweet trade deal. Also, don't be scared to import art for Spiritual Contentment or Medicine.

>>2092445
Why would a meat shortage cap luxury goods?

>>2092457
Livestock Shortage* can cap luxury goods, because non-meat animal components are used in industry, and not just leather or wool.

got to 2000 after a few failed attempts as Romanov. Throughout the game I tried turning myself into a Stalinist/Social Patriot and at one point had 100+ points in both, revived the Cult of Stalin, etc, and then somehow a few months later moderates dominated the entire political scene by 200 points and I just couldn't get back.
Won the Afghan and the Nicaragua wars, invaded and split up Iran after they lost the war with Iraq. I was gearing up to invade China (which was embroiled in a civil war) when the game suddenly ended. Wish the whole thing was paced better to make it a proper lead-up into 2000. The second half of the game has a lot less content than the first.

>>2092692
>not banning opposing factions and subsidizing your own

>>2092695
I changed a bunch of doctrines, took every option during events, etc. And yes, I had buffed Stalinists to unlock Social Patriots, then buffed those for years. A massive political power and secret service tax that made it impossible for me to afford certain event options.

>>2092692
Yeah, there are like 3 events between '93 and the end of '99. I expected more.

How do I make money? I seem to collapse economically for some reason no matter what I do. I want to copy the chinese route so maybe introducing free market elements fucks something up? I even lower conscription and stuff just earn more money

>>2092987
I think what fucked me up when I started was switching to new doctrines via events without understanding what they are (they only show you the names, not the effects). Some of them have really debilitating maluses. Pay attention to those, enable autosave and reload in case you select something that turns out to be dogshit. If you do things right, economy and political power become non-issues in the second half of the game.
>>2092692
just had another run as Grishin. This time I went full Pinochet (or so I thought), concentrated all power in myself and had a semi-market economy. I got to see Trump fumble the presidency into Ron Paul's hands and then I became the undisputed new leader of the economic, if not free, world. And yet the compass shows me I was no different from my attempt at being a social patriot. I don't get this thing at all.

>>2093003
is there a way to have trump lose the first election to ron? for me it always elected trump

>>2093005
in my game he won, did a bunch of random shit that pissed everybody off, and was then replaced by Ron Paul.

>>2093009
yeah that's what I'm talking about that's how it happened in the previous version too
but you can interfere in the first election that triggers when you push US stability to 0 but it seems to always elect trump

>>2093011
wouldn't be surprised if that election is rigged by the devs and Ron Paul just can't win. Trump's event chain is one of the longest ones in the entire game and is somewhat topical, they probably wanted to show it off.

>>2092987
Lower corruption, make trade deals, raise competitiveness and industry stats. Also go for laws that increase revenue from an industry.

>>2093015
It most likely has hidden checks, like Mao's Legacy, which doesn't tell you what it takes to take Jimmy elected versus Reagan.

Is political liberalization while maintaing planned economy the path to success?

>>2093124
>Is [...] liberalization [...] the path to success?
no, to the gallows with you

>>2093127
Sorry anon. I'll liberalize and use the freed up resources from having to repress radicals and intelligentsia towards economic development and foreign policy. You can stay in yout totalitarian shithole

>>2093143
>he needs to repress people
just pump money to culture retard and give envelopes to intelligentsia
the people want to be oppressed

>>2093124
If you invest heavily into Special Services, sure.
>political
Or do you actually want to play parliament with capitalists?

>>2093160
lmao no. All decision making belongs to the party, but people can make degenerate post-modern art or go to a church if they want. Communism is so good that it can win in a free marketplace of ideas because they want it

so far, China collapsed in every single one of my games. What gives?

>>2093165
Oh, that's fine, then. You get a lot of bonuses to reducing Corruption and Forgery with that. You will still need to invest heavily into State Apparatus and Special Services, though. A lot of events require their loyalty and capability to be high.

>Three-Chambered Early Soviet Model
>Soviet Democracy (go to one-party republic first, the above is blocked, if you go there directly)
>total absence of censorship in media
>independent art
>independent prime minister
>no personality cult of current leader
>free national elections

I prefer Labour camps for the income, and State Ownership of Religion gives some absolutely busted bonuses. Atheism could, at least, give research points.

But otherwise, you'll be investing a lot in Police and Special Service.

I wish game told me how the math works. All I can do is randomly click buttons and hope I don't collapse.

>>2093182
now you know how the actual politburo felt!

How do I avoid getting removed during congress? the situation in the country is ok but the party doesn't like me for some reason

>>2093183
In actual world free market reforms lead to growth and prosperity while in this commie game it's easier to conquer the world as stalin than not collapse as liberal

>get birdcage economy via event
>entire economy collapses
huh?

>>2093185
free market reforms lead to collapse in real life too silly, how do you think the traitors at the top dissolved the union?

>>2093188
>free market reforms lead to collapse in real life too silly
If that was the case China would collapse and millions would starve when Deng did his thing. The actual reason for collapse is political liberalization which makes this game weird since they want me to retain planned economy while liberalizing which doesn't make any sense.

>>2093185
These "actual world free market reforms", are they with us in the room right now?

>>2093195
I've never liberalized in any of these games and I've played all of them

>>2093196
Say what you want about current Russia but it's miles better than what was before and the only problems it has are due to soviet politicians in charge. Had Yeltsin banned communist party Russia would be a first world country by now

>>2093201
>Had Yeltsin banned communist party Russia would be a first world country by now
He did, dipshit.

>>2093202
>He did
LOL you're actually retarded. He never persecuted anyone because he was an idealist and believed in freedom of speech and freedom even for psychotic genocidal retards who were jerking off at romanov girls dead corpses being raped by jewish soldiers

>>2093203
You are a know-nothing-know-it-all, pretending you know dick about what happened in the East, alternatively coping about "naive youth not knowing any better" and "nostalgic boomers". Shut the fuck up, and go huff your copium elsewhere.

>>2093187
birdcage is the best one if you do the bread tech.

>>2093204
At least I know that Yeltsin didn't ban a communist party

>>2093215
https://www.upi.com/Archives/1991/11/06/Yeltsin-bans-Communist-Party/1265689403600
>UPI Archives Nov. 6, 1991
>MOSCOW -- Russian President Boris Yeltsin has issued a decree banning the Communist Party, nationalizing its property, and condemning its activities.

>>2093227
Wait till you learn what party Yeltsin's main opponent in the 1996 election belonged to

>>2093227
Boris Yeltsin did not ban the Communist Party of the Russian Federation (CPRF) because the Russian Constitutional Court ruled that the ban on the Communist Party of the Soviet Union (CPSU) did not extend to its primary organizations, including the CPRF, according to Wikipedia. While Yeltsin initially suspended the CPSU's activities, the court's decision in 1992 effectively allowed for the reorganization of communist forces under different names, with the CPRF emerging as the largest and most prominent.

>>2093233
>>2093234

How long does Chernenko live if you choose him? Also who is the best hardliner? I thought it was him but he has the peaceful trait.

>livestock shortage
>housing shortage
>labor shortage
How do you remove each modifier?

>>2093195
>free market
>deng
China under deng was not free market. The state still had lots of control over the economy (state owned sector). The major top corporations were also still soes. This model has continued to this day
China is closer to dirigsme instead of free market
>>2093185
A lot of the developmental succes stories in real life history used dirigsme/dirigste economic policies. Japan, south korea, singapore, taiwan, france and etc were all dirigste economies.
The state guided market economy is the best system. Its superior than free markets and planned economies.

Would a mod set in 1953 work? Stalin dies and you choose his successor, work your way through the early ages of the Cold War till roughly the 70s.

>>2093378
Shcherbytsky is the best starter if you want to become a Social Patriot as he doesn't have any traits that fuck over your influence gain, Chernenko is the best Stalinist as he can start the Cult of Stalin pretty much immediately.

>>2093409
>the best Stalinist is peaceful
This feels weirdly correct in the context of the Cold War. Does adopting the Cult of Stalin change you from Conservative to Stalinist? I like the shade of red.

>>2093382
READ, NINGEN! READ!

>>2093402
Yyyyy... yes. The map is complete, and everything is thoroughly abstracted. You need an assload of events, and rebalance research, though.

>>2093425
chujin?

>oh, you want to pass a new law? Too bad! Here's ten chucklefucks who want to fire one another, now spend all your political power!
what the fuck is this

>>2093459
Party politics. Did you think communist politicking is peaceful and orderly?

>>2093460
Erm, yeah? Communism works, chud.

communism works you just need to kill the right people

>>2093459
It is the same as politicians shitflinging in the western democracies, demanding each other to step down, crying who is corrupt while being corrupt themselves. And asian democracies devolving into a brawl in the parliament.
There is quite literally no difference between the East and the West. All politicians deserve a bullet.

>>2093459
rule by decree doesn't have this problem

How do I fix this? I get thrown into the backrooms after Karabakh event no matter which choice I pick

>>2093819
Report it on the d*scord

>>2093827
I'm a pirate

>>2093901
You pirated a 10 dollar game?

>>2094034
nta but it's 7 since it's on sale actually

>>2094035
Am Canadian. Price is a bit higher for me.

>>2094036
price you have to pay for being a le*f

>>2094038
Superiority tax.

>>2094034
Why should I pay for something I can get for free?

>>2094034
anti-capitalist game, chud

>Game only sold ~4k copies
>Made less than 35k
>after years of development
RIP

>>2094269
I don't want to buy a game that crashes in 1989

>>2094069
>>2094098
If you're broke just say so.

>>2094276
It's the peoples game, chud. Every comrade gets a copy. You didn't fall for the capitalist trap and purchase an entertainment product, did ya? The game developers labor is exploited, Anon. Do better.

>>2094359
1. You're not a comrade.
2. Taking shit for free is typical capitalist behaviour.
My favourite cope is pirates promising to "spread awareness" of the product. As if "paying people in exposure" isn't always same bullshit.

I don't blame you. You're a product of your degenerate, gibsmedat ""culture"".

>>2094433
spread awareness of the product does happen though. i think a book or wahtever publisher hated piracy until he realized piracy rapidly increased his profits by spreading awareness

>>2094437
Sure. But after the utter collapse of revenue of all sorts of media from the advent of the internet, that is basically a dead cat bounce and about just as high.

>>2094438
>that is basically a dead cat bounce and about just as high.
what. im stupid I dont understand what you mean here

>>2094439
It's okay. Basically, everything is going down, but there's a bump, before the trend continues.

>>2094440
oh no. was marx right. Is this the falling rate of profit

>>2094441
No, that's a different thing. But yes, falling rate of profit is real, and yes, Marx was right.

>>2094442
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYH_GzdBhGk

>>2094433
You are exploting labor of hard workers by paying a billionaire for a game. Get out of the capitalist system you dumb nigger.

>>2094446
There's no such thing as ethical consumption under capitalism. Individual actions are worthless, liberal lifestylist bullshit. You're not "getting out" or "combatting" capitalism through piracy, you are the equivalent of a bottom feeding scavenger, trying to keep your hold on the system, fooling yourself that there are benefits to be gained from it.

>>2094450
>There's no such thing as ethical consumption under capitalism.
Then why are you mad about people pirating games?

So is political power gain when you're going democratic tied to congress composition or politicians or whatever the fuck? I suspect it's tied to to either my ministers being from whatever sympathies even though they're loyal. Either that or there's some inconsistencies debuffs due to restrictive stuff elsewhere or civil activity and freedoms being low.
God I wish I knew how this shit worked. Going Perestroika fucking sucks big dick, especially when trying to integrate into the EU. Going full Deng or full Stalin is ezpz so why is going full AnCap so hard? Gonna try for AnCap Stalinist next, fuck Gorbachev and his drunk gremlin sidekick.

According to this game the Soviet Union collapsed because Gorbochev was weak and going full Stalin would've saved the union. Really?

>>2094557
>being weak collapses the union
>being strong doesn't collapse the union
yes

>>2094555
my anarchists... don't have authority?

>>2094623
kek

>>2094557
it's true
Gorbi was a based retard who did the world a favor by being incompetent

I fucking love the music in these games. Mao's Legacy had me listening to baller Maoist Propaganda songs and this got me rocking out to the protest songs

>>2094771
INDUSTRIAL TECHNOLOGY
CYBERNETIC TECHNOLOGY

>>2094771
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBPnvPUYbb8

I think I finally got the hang of the gameplan. I had a few victories in the past, but I had never been able to take over the US and NATO till now. That was as Moderates though, I'm sure having to invest into supporting liberals, national democrats or social patriots is gonna make everything much harder.
the new update better not fucking make me unlearn everything I've just learned.

>>2094557
With Stalinists there would atleast be an active attempt to resolve the situation, whether that would would work is debateable but the Conservatives would have had everything go to shit but keep it together with nukes and aks. We all saw what happened when the Liberals were in charge of "saving the Union".

>>2095092
the great purges and etc werent wrong ideas conceptually. It just needed to be moderated and target the right people

>>2094866
It's mostly just minor nerfs, rebalances. Territorial Defense no longer gives +50% to MIC income. You can select Adoption through Referendums directly, instead of going through the Party composition.

Atheism still not buffed, State Ownership of Religion is crazy strong.

>>2095105
It was a classic case of a policy that need significant rework/reform being completely rebuked which lost any benefit from it ever having existed. Khrushchev should have moderated De-Stalinization so it did not dilute the party's authority (Keep Stalingrad but stop naming any new locations after him) and so all the energy you found in the late Stalinist era would be retained yet focused on more modern goals (battling corruption, enforcing social cohesion, underming nationalist discourse). The USSR bouncing between subset theories of Communism really exacerbated every issue.

>>2095105
>It just needed to be moderated and target the right people
Are you implying it needed to target the moderates?

Can you make a succesful Gorbachev run, even if you take him into a different direction?

>>2095199
If by "different direction" you mean into the Moskva then yes.

>>2095199
There is a Perestroika achievement. So, yeah?

Does it allow you to larp as a capitalist or libertarian?

Does it allow you to larp as a capitalist?

>>2095232
Yes. You can do capitalism.

>>2095233
That's cool.

Is there space stuff, like a Mars mission?

>>2095260
Yes, you get science points for colonizing the Moon and building stuff there.

>>2078756 (OP)
How are you meant to win proxy-wars here?

>>2095181
Im saying that the policy should have been geared more towards anti corruption, anti liberalism and etc like xi jinping is doing. And should have not engaged in this weird trot-bukharin-zioneiv saboteur mass conspiracy.
In china, this style of purging is working. The anti corruption campaign in china has achieved a lot of succesful results. Without engaging in the extreme excesses associated with the great purges
>>2095148
Deng showed the way. Xi jinping showed the way. The chinese showed the right path.

>>2094771
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdXDyWA9T-k
my favourite

>>2094269
ehh.. let's be honest, these games probably aren't that expensive to make. Broken english translation is only a proof of that

>>2096013
the font license they put in the credits is ten times the size of the credits themselves. Had a laugh when I saw it.

>>2095314
Military tech. Orient towards local conflicts. And help from alliance members.

Is it possible to negotiate with opposition in Afghanistan?

In the "Statistics", does the economy negative value refer to your overall spending?

So what's the difference with this game and the other CiTK type games in this series?

>>2096158
It has a more modern UI than their best game (Mao) but worse economy system.

>>2096189
the china game was simpler. This game makes me have no idea wtf am I doing. Which I guess is exactly how managing real USSR was like

I did my first playthrough as a conservative and lost in 1990 because my economy went into the shitter and radicals could not be tard wrangled.
I need basic pointers on what to do, what to invest in and what not, how wars work and that conspiracy decision in the politics menu.

>>2097272
there are guides on Steam. Stick with conservatives or moderates for your first few playthroughs, you can branch out into others later (the hardest ones are informal socialists IMO).
on your first month, invest 80 into importing luxury goods. This will kneecap one of your negative modifiers (acquaint yourself with all three of them, they're very important). You can immediately remove that import next month.
investing into heavy industry boosts light and military industry. You can keep the latter at 100 most games, though probably not right off the bat. Invest into government to prevent corruption, you'll get all of the money back because clearing out corruption unfucks your economy.

>>2097272
Always keep an eye on the economy tab and which sectors of the economy is going up or down. As long as they're high your economy does well. You wanna stack % increases for big money, otherwise neo colonialism can give insane amounts of cash.
Just get cash, reinvest where needed. Fund departments as needed, KGB is your friend

How do wars work and how much can you influence them?

damn game looks shit

>>2097585
click on the yellow symbol near the war zone, a menu will pop up. The more boxes you tick, the more support you will send (and the more it will cost you in funds, special service strength, military strength, etc). Your scientific progress affects some of those effects.

>play libdem
>scheme and manuever until almost only libdems left
>congress is a mix of libdems, reformers, and moderates
>conservatives and neo-stalinsts decimated by late 1987
>finally allow free elections
>lose election
i guess at least the russian people are free :^}

>>2097815
the people yearn for a stalinist dictatorship that censors their every thought and tells them what's allowed
just look at real life!

>>2093173
If you don't liberalize, China does and gets raped with shock therapy

>>2098080
I liberalized and China still collapsed

>>2098091
Huh... Okay, then i don't know. Maybe you need to sign the friendship agreement?

>>2094269
I bought all of their games before. I'm waiting to buy this one after a few patches because i was really disappointed with Collapse, it looked like it was made in MS Paint and it had the most confusing UI ever, big stepback from their older games, especially since Ostalgie and Mao were very polished compared to Crisis in the Kremlin.

>>2098178
Collapse was a dud
Didn't they quickly stop updating it

>party dismissal
...and how exactly do I avoid this thing? Specifically one day before it fires? Almost had a stroke after this thing just instantly killed me right as I was busying myself killing the Americans.

>>2099079
Have loyal ministers, breh. Did you miss the conspiracy to send your ass to political exile?

>>2099105
Of the top 15 guys only like 2 of them have less than 100 loyalty, and last I checked they had like 60~ on average. Did the event I get appear because of a conspiracy? I thought it was just a random or periodic one that existed more to let the player shit on the groups that he doesn't like.

>>2099113
Yes, AI can start conspiracies. Yes, you can join them. One was likely started against you. It is NOT a scheduled event.

After playing this Mao is still their best game.

Do you think they will make a USA dlc? I was wondering what other nation they could make and I think it is a toss up on whether a smaller nation (South Africa perhaps) would be easier to make or whether a larger nation (USA) would be worth more comparatively. I personally hope for the US, maybe keep it simple with standard Democrat-Republican factions but with unique wings such as Buchanan vs Bush or Clinton and his Third Way. I was surprised but interested in just how much options you are given regarding influencing foreign politics such as Britain's Old vs New Labour and Germany's NPD.

>>2099193
Yugoslavia is next. The devs really want to show off their war mechanics, I suppose. Also, China.

>>2099200
I know it is different but they have already done Yugoslavia in Ostalgie and gave a whole game to China, I would be disappointed if they spent their time and effort on that again. Crisis in the Kremlin works so well for geopolitical chess that the US would fit it perfectly. What new gameplay would they even add to Yugo and China to make it different from before? Half the events needed for the US are already there they just need to switch perspective.

>>2099213
>gave a whole game to China
It actually ended in 1985, Ostalgie is just 3 years.

Giving The Great Satan a chance for a playthrough defeats the whole purpose of the game.

>>2099216
>Giving The Great Satan a chance for a playthrough defeats the whole purpose of the game
Yet you can play as Reformer already

>>2099221
But the Cold War isn't invalidated entirely.

>>2099225
I don't see how being able to play as the other side invalidates the cold war aspect of the game, it is what it is but I just think it would be fun and cool to play as the US aswell.

>>2099228
>he used the f-word
Standard non-argument.

>>2099228
USA or another major NATO power could be fun as a way to play through a different collapse of the USSR, ie, dismembering Russia.

They were apparently going to add Libya, Vietnam and Greece to Ostalgie but the dev got drafted. Would be interesting if they returned to those. Egypt, Iran or Iraq could be interesting as well for a middle eastern royal rumble.

>>2099153
How come I can't see any conspiracies? I've even spent 50 political power to press this button and yet it remains the same, even after letting a month pass.

>>2099389
There might actually be none?

>>2099433
Guards! dispose of this reactionary traitor

>Dissolve USA
>Everyone in EU elects communists with 90% votes
>Can't make them leave the EU because they need to have a different ruling party like the Greens instead of literal communists
Who coded this shit

>>2099433
It says that there's at least one unknown ongoing conspiracy...
Well anyway, I managed to avoid getting deposed by starting from the last autosave and picking the option to criticize reformers, instead of doing nothing. I'm not sure how it works but that helped. Then I absolutely raped the whole world.
I just checked Gorbachev up to the latter half of 1986 and it seems like it's pretty much impossible to fracture even as him? Or at least there didn't seem to be anything that allows it. What's the method for breaking the union and going for Russia here?

>>2091567
History tells us that the zero-state solution is the only path to peace

>>2099240
You are not human and not in a FUN way
>>2099287
I would definitely return to Ostalgie for those countries, I also think it would be interesting if you could collapse the USSR as the US but play it better then our timeline. Actually taking an effort to rebuild Russia and mould it to be Western ally. Of course if that is too much of a wholesome world peace path then you could explore the plundering aspect.

>play le ebil stalinist gromyko
>roll up everything, buckbreak usa, etc
>play as gorbachev
>I cant stop getting overthrown in a party conspiracy or by an angry mob of /pol/ users breaking into the kremlin
the economy is doing fine, general and spooks are loyal and im winning the cold war abroad but i just cant wrangle the retards

What are the requirements for the USA falling apart? Same for China, I'd prefer to just maintain the Eastern Bloc rather then be forced into world domination. GURANTEE OF STABILITY. TRADE WITH CHINA, DETENTE WITH AMERICA.

>>2099814
From what I can tell it's all three of their stats falling below 10. After that they have an election and collapse if Ayn gets elected, revive if Donald does. If the latter then you have to lower their stats again for them to abandon NATO and being a world power. Then they just sit there like that unless you declare victory in the cold war.

Who knew that putting sanctions on South America would instantly destroy USA. Why didn't Gorbachev do that in OTL

Reminder you're not a true stalinist if you don't go total statefication into electronic planned economy, sovkhoification of agriculture and soviet democracy

halfway there

>>2104688
Made me laugh
Think I'll make a cute loli character for when I go stalinist.

>>2104688
Should have chosen thematically appropriate images instead.

DAVAI!
TOVARICH!
DAVAI!
TOVARICH!
DAVAI!
TOVARICH!

>>2108201
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6rVg7xkbzuc

>>2105424
Like the Twins from Atomic Heart?

>>2108339
Like any anime girl on gelbooru with soviet as a tag.

Do you'll know how to torrent this game? (assuling it came out cause laith played it)
Neither gog games or fitgirl released and Im too much of a pussy to go to piratebay

>>2110062
https://rutracker.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6717985

>>2110062
Dude it's like 7 bucks, and their games are also often discounted

>>2110316
Nta but i never pay for games/software/movies/etc. Why should i pay for something i can get for free. I'm sure you can find other ways to spend your money

>>2110318
Because supported creators continue to create. You like what they create, right?

>>2110062
>>2110318
>never pays for stuff
>doesn't know a single other piracy website than fucking Fitgirl's and TPB

Lol.

>>2110318
I can understand for AAA games that are like 40/50 bucks, but for indie devs that sell their games for a few bucks already, it's worth supporting them

>>2110560
I loyally buy AAA despite never playing them because they suck and pirate indie games.

>>2110311
How do I know I wont get 77 malwares? I dont trust russians

>>2113815
idk but since ruskies are talking and are find than I guess you are as well

What's this game like compared to earlier entries? CITK's original rerelease was fun, but I couldn't shake the feeling I was pretty much playing a paid Flash game. Ostalgie was awful, visual novel tier. And Mao's Legacy I actually liked, felt like you actually had to use the mechanics or perish.

Ok so decided to play it and its really fun and easy, the russian site doesnt have a malware so its good as for the gameplay I would advise you to play only in sandbox mod to have fun, I was close to establishing comminusm but it hit 2000 before I could do it, also the kgb points get dried up very fast if you support too much wars thats the only problem I faced, Ill download a cheat mod and see if I can crack this up
Also it was fun eating pooland the moment they wanted to declare independence

>>2116292
Another thing I forget to mention:
>you can ignore the politburo entirely, they posed no threat to me and can easaly be replaced anyways, add a memeber of your own faction or a close faction example: conservatives with neo-stalinists
>rush the modernasation of nuclear engines to not get the chernobel crisis
>Try to get the kgb points since they are necessary for coups or events where you coup a country, I try to bribe and increase spending but to nothing

>>2116293
Politburo is basically where you put your yesmen. It's the cool kids club.

It's hilarious how easy is it to go hardline in this one. Meanwhile, I've had a "successful" liberal run with Gorbachev (Proclaim end to Cold War by befriending US, join the EU) and didn't get shit for it

>>2116627
You have to destroy America to make TRVE LIBERALISM work, unironically. Otherwise America just cockblocks you out of NATO and having any economic power in the EU.

>>2116720
Based

Can't wait for Yugoslavia DLC. And big effort mods.

Decided to play the cheat version of this game and started fill editing
Destroyed the Judeo-protestant empire of america and everything started falling apppart
Also my biggest regret is I didnt invade china during the chinese civil war and decided to support the generals, now I cant puppet them cause I need to be on the autoritarian side of the political map and Im a green since I allowed Soviet Democracy and removed the death penalty
And finally the corruption modifier is fucking insane, whatever I do it keeps going up and you need to bribe so the generals and other fucks to sit the fuck down
Still it was a fun game building comminusm, 9/10 if you are cheating

>>2116867
>Decided to play the cheat version of this game and started fill editing
Why would you do this, the game is piss eas--
> Capture d'écran
Oh, a Q*becer or a Fr*nch, makes sense.

>>2116867
> corruption modifier is fucking insane
Invest in state apparatus and secret service, you dingus.

>>2078756 (OP)
Can you reopen the GULAGs?

>>2116907
Yes
You can also do a great purge if you go personalistic dictatorship

Rise of the White Sun by Maestro Cinetik is 70% off on Steam for today

>>2117184
Liberal baguette faggot. Don't play his games.

>>2115667
It's much worse than Mao that's for sure

>>2117354
Elaborate.

>>2117376
Unfortunate. In which ways, though?

>>2119064
More bars to keep track off, and reducing corruption doesn't automatically give you more money.

>>2117184
Someone got a victory as empelol rebels? Kiketube doesn't shows anything.

>>2078756 (OP)
How do I make money? And raise combat readiness? And end upgrade tech and agriculture quickly?

>>2078756 (OP)
How do I make money? And raise combat readiness? And upgrade tech and agriculture quickly?

>>2119725
Trade, invest in tech and government function, and aim for laws that give bonuses to income. There's also a few that increase gains from trade. You can easily get your income 300+ in the positive the month right after the one where changing laws becomes allowed.

>>2079020
wait a minute... that president....

>>2097815
Authentic Russian political experience

>>2078756 (OP)
Is this game the same as the earlier ones, aka barely disguised Russian quetching that Gorby ruined everything and that ebul US destroyed Russia with free markets (while completely ignoring Russian internal corruption and incompetance in the fate of their failed liberalization)?

>>2120724
>put the final nail in the coffin of the issr with his libtard reformism
>selling soviet submarines and ships to coca cola
Lmfaoooo how can you libtard still protect cia asset Gorbashit who had to flee to Krautsland like a little bitch after fucking over his country???
Also its the fucking khokhol corn man who destroyed the ussr after purging all stalinists, if Stalin lived only 1 month before dying he would have purged all revisionist scumbags
Well lets hope the chinese destroy the globohomo hegemony

>>2120844
>Schizophrenic meltdown about Gorby + seething about coca cola
Ok but did you ever consider that USSR might have been fucked regardless of Gorbachev's reforms? Or will you just pretend that its a-okay for the entire Caucasus to explode with racial pogroms and every border republic to demand independence the moment you slightly lift the jackboot? Have you considered that if all it took for the entire state to be looted overnight was the appearance of the ability to do it, then maybe literally no one gave a shit about USSR to begin with? Simple truth is the entire structure was rotten to hell and you're just blaming the guy who tried to do foundation repair and had the entire thing fall on top of him after the first minute.

And even if we accept your premise that
>id wuz all da gorbachebs fault!!1!1
It doesn't change my thesis that Russian 90's ass-disaster was self-inflicted. I don't know how else you can come out with any other conclusion when you see that all post-Soviet/WPO states that maintained a westward path are now way better off than Russia.

>>2120885
>Ok but did you ever consider that USSR might have been fucked regardless of Gorbachev's reforms?
nta but he quite literally says right there the collapse started with khruschev

>>2120887
Yes, which is the ultimate schizoid commie talking point considering that Khruschev basically did fuck all different from Stalin except...
>Destroying Stalin cult
>Making planned economy slightly more planned
>Giving gibs to collective farmers
>Focusing more on consumer goods
So the quetching about him is ultimately no different that Moldbug's NRX schizoposting about how great it would all be if we had a religious god-king to unify the nation to pre-enlightenment values, except here the god-king is Stalin. This is hilarious because it displays how hard stalinoids actually hate the common man and think they are cattle that would all betray them so long as they aren't being brainwashed into leaderworship. Granted, we are talking about Russians here...

>>2120896
>Destroying Stalin cult
He literally created in the first place. Stalin was against the cult.
>Making planned economy slightly more planned
He reintroduced market elements to the planned economy. Khruschev's economic reforms were the exact same things Stalin warned not to do in his Economic Problems of the Soviet Economy.
>Giving gibs to collective farmers
He ended the MTS system, thereby significantly buggering up how socialist development of agriculture

>>2120896
>So the quetching about him is ultimately no different that Moldbug's NRX schizoposting about how great it would all be if we had a religious god-king to unify the nation to pre-enlightenment values
Except Yarvin is anti-religion. You would know that if you weren't a retard

>>2120885
>now way better off than Russia
In what way? Gee dee pee?

china maos legacy has so much fucking soul

>>2121107
Are you perhaps planning on pulling off some grand, beautiful acrobatic moves to completely ignore the fact that states like Poland are several times richer than Russia is?

>>2121179
DLC, you mean. Don't worry, CitK will get there, too, eventually.

>>2121186
I just said GDP, nigga.

What does "economy" mean in the context of essential goods.

>>2121179
It really is.

What causes inflation and is massive inflation after moving off planned economy expected?

>>2121186
Most of Russia's problems today unironically go back to the way Yeltsin handled things.
GDP dropped by 40% in 10 years, hyperinflation, collapse in living standards across the board, every social service destroyed, every major enterprise run by a small group of extremely corrupt kleptocrats.
All my homies hate Yeltsin.

>>2122239
Read the tooltips, dumbass.

Is it possible to prevent chernobyl by having the nuclear or ecology sliders at a certain value?
Being forced to rush the nuclear techs at the start seems very inefficient if you don't plan to research further down the tree.

>>2126236
>Is it possible to prevent chernobyl
Yes, if I remember correctly you need to go through the first two peaceful nuclear techs and do their decisions.
>Being forced to rush the nuclear techs at the start seems very inefficient
I wouldn't say its inefficient at all, they have decent bonuses. I also have no clue why you wouldn't want to go further down after that.

which of the yugoslavists is the one i should be helping if i want them as my ally?

>>2126319
Assuming you want Yugoslavia to stay together, Old Yugoslavists.

WTF are diminishing returns and why the fuck am I losing 25 army loyalty because of it tf

>>2126349
like wtf is this??
i just got rid of that conscription shit shouldnt the army love me??

>>2126349
It's like decay, costs more to keep the numbers at a higher level.
This applies to political authority too, best to spend it all at the end of the month.

>>2126349
>>2126359
First time dealing with logarithmic functions? Rate of returns isn't linear. Pushing a value higher and higher takes more and more effort.

>>2126364
>>2126365
oh wait u guys were right i guess the decision made the army super loyal so the game was balancing it out, im at +12 now, got scared for a bit

>>2126367
It'll even out and settle on a number, relax.

Feels like half the time I have to prepare for a million different things that I dont even know are gonna appear

>>2126426
Live and learn.

>>2126426
There's no RNG at all in the game, even the events that seem to have random outcomes are deterministic. Seems they always depend on your ideology.
None of the events by themselves are all that nasty either, most likely you've been neglecting a slider but didn't notice it.

>>2126319
None, fuck Yugoslavia. You can always invade them after the US collapses.

>>2078756 (OP)
https://www.vogons.org/viewtopic.php?t=106150
>Sometimes this game popped up in my mind because I never managed to "win" it, just stay in power with a union dissolved and a nation surviving but in ruinous debt. So I decided to try again and perhaps discover the intricacies of the most mysterious part of the game: the budget. My challenge being: Can I keep the union playing as a hard liner?

>So I used cheat engine to give myself an "infinite" amount of money to see if maxing all social values I could have a different outcome, and the result, as I suspected back then when I first started playing this game in my teenage years is: No, you can't keep the union. As I can infer, many of the events are scripted and cannot be altered regardless of how well the nation is.

>You can set economic aid sliders of republics/soviet bloc/foreign aid to 9999 and it won't affect any outcome.

>So the game sets you up in a linear path and only gives you the illusion of choice and control, you can have all your stats maxed in the green and it won't matter;

>This is not an ask for help, I just want to leave this here for posterity.
I guess this settles the debate forever.

How do I get Market Share up?

What exactly do the dimensions have to be for a custom portrait? And what should I focus on to make him live long, can I settle for age 68 and make it to 2000? What improves health/decrease it?

>>2127710
this is dumb because you can in fact keep the union together

>>2131109
They're talking about the original, before Kremlingames (RIP the old name) decided to pick up the property and make a game where you could actually win.

>>2127889
Trade deals, Competitiveness.