Thread 2100008 - /vst/

Anonymous
7/22/2025, 3:14:21 AM No.2100008
med1
med1
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How come the best game in the series came out 23 years ago?
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Anonymous
7/22/2025, 3:22:54 AM No.2100012
Sell me on it. Does it have a better AI or features?
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Anonymous
7/22/2025, 3:38:05 AM No.2100016
much like every other development studio with any level of notoriety, the only people left are those who just clock in and do the bare minimum for their paycheck
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Anonymous
7/22/2025, 3:50:43 AM No.2100022
>>2100016
crazy how their bare minimums are still better strategy titles than any paracocks garbage
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Anonymous
7/22/2025, 3:52:03 AM No.2100024
>>2100008 (OP)
Warhammer 3 is like 3 years old thougheverbeit.
Anonymous
7/22/2025, 4:19:01 AM No.2100034
difficulty levels
difficulty levels
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>>2100012
Anonymous
7/22/2025, 4:20:04 AM No.2100036
spear tactics
spear tactics
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>>2100022
eh, honestly they are both garbage
Anonymous
7/22/2025, 4:21:08 AM No.2100038
pikes in action
pikes in action
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Anonymous
7/22/2025, 4:22:43 AM No.2100040
knights charge
knights charge
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Anonymous
7/22/2025, 5:04:21 AM No.2100061
>>2100022
>totalslop
>strategy
fucking LMAO
Anonymous
7/22/2025, 11:34:11 AM No.2100171
>>2100038
Where is this from? I skimmed over manual but never saw this exact part.
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Anonymous
7/22/2025, 11:39:15 AM No.2100176
mapp
mapp
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>>2100171
https://www.mediafire.com/file/ptw2cas9aw0z4ps/Medieval_TW_-_Total_Unit_Guide.pdf/file
Anonymous
7/22/2025, 11:44:31 AM No.2100179
>>2100022
retard
Anonymous
7/22/2025, 11:54:12 AM No.2100186
>>2100012
>2d strategy map is easier for campaign ai
>can dismount cavalry
>characters age correctly, not like in Med 2
>archer on hill gain range bonus
>Jeff van Dyck ost
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Anonymous
7/22/2025, 1:35:55 PM No.2100233
>>2100012
it's peak contrarianism
Anonymous
7/22/2025, 1:36:50 PM No.2100235
>>2100186
>>2d strategy map is easier for campaign ai
you're telling me later TWs have a 3d map huh?
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Anonymous
7/22/2025, 2:24:23 PM No.2100259
>>2100235
I am retarded yes.
What I meant was risk-like map clearly, please don't beat me.
Anonymous
7/22/2025, 3:01:16 PM No.2100286
>>2100008 (OP)
i want to track down every medieval 1/shogun 1 faggot shitposter and shit down your throats
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Anonymous
7/22/2025, 3:06:14 PM No.2100293
spy caught
spy caught
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>>2100286
>t. fat zoom zoom with noodle arms
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Anonymous
7/22/2025, 3:12:14 PM No.2100306
>>2100293
did you take your arthritis meds today, grandpa?
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Anonymous
7/22/2025, 3:17:16 PM No.2100315
pills
pills
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>>2100306
why you even shitpost like that?
did you ever played Shogun or Med 1?
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Anonymous
7/22/2025, 3:18:52 PM No.2100319
>>2100315
of course not, i was born after 1980
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Anonymous
7/22/2025, 3:23:18 PM No.2100326
>>2100319
lol, just lol if you didn’t play mtw1 and shogun1 as a child
Anonymous
7/22/2025, 3:23:41 PM No.2100327
>>2100319
so do I
I guess you were just born in some shithole that didn't have higher tech till 2020
Anonymous
7/22/2025, 3:45:10 PM No.2100362
>>2100012
>decent campaign and battle AI
>some of the largest battles in the series, with 5-digit forces on both sides not unusual late in campaign (or when Mongols appear)
>nicely balanced province development - you're encouraged to specialise because building up your lands takes so long, not because of any hard limits
>terrain, stamina and weather matter a lot in battle
Anonymous
7/22/2025, 8:43:47 PM No.2100660
>>2100319
I was born in 86 and played those games when they were new. I didn't get really into them at the time though because I was addicted to Diablo 2's multiplayer. Just say that you were born after 1990 instead.
Anonymous
7/22/2025, 11:52:03 PM No.2100817
>>2100012
Campaign and battlefield AI is incredibly basic in the later games. You can tell Creative Assembly actually put effort into developing the AI of the first Shogun/Medieval. Units stay together and act as a cohesive army, and behave much like a human would. I don't remember ever successfully abusing or cheesing the AI. The more basic nature of the combat and campaign also means less weird shit happening (although that's also due to the sheer lack of care in the later games). In campaign there's no random tiny armies, mono-type armies (unless they're countering your own mono-type army), armies moving weirdly or aimlessly etc. In battle you don't get bugs from attack animations, finishing moves, stagger stun lock etc.
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Anonymous
7/23/2025, 3:29:14 PM No.2101237
battle
battle
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>>2100817
>In campaign there's no mono-type armies
They still can happen if AI have no access to different recruitment options
In shogun you can meet only yari or archer armies but its usually only happen early
In med 1 AI have bad tendency to spam peasants and balistass for some reason
In general the nature of Risk style map make AI field more balanced armies and it behave better.
Battlefield AI is much better too
The visuals are also clean and there is zero visual noise.
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Anonymous
7/23/2025, 3:43:55 PM No.2101248
>>2101237
>In med 1 AI have bad tendency to spam peasants
i straight up modded peasants out because i read that it was advised on some med1 forum post, does wonders
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Anonymous
7/23/2025, 3:48:03 PM No.2101256
>>2101248
yeah
in general Med 1 AI can't really handle the 3 eras and outdated units but honestly no TW AI can do this(unless it straight cheat like shogun 2 ai tended to do)
I blame the tiered and branching recruitment, its especially visible for me in rome 1(I think I played this game the most) but its present in most tw games
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 5:47:35 PM No.2101358
Whats the "default" faction in Med?
What the opposite of that default?
And whats the inbetween?
I am assuming something "Catholic faction-Arab faction-Byzantines/Rus"?
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Anonymous
7/23/2025, 11:34:29 PM No.2101865
animU
animU
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>>2100008 (OP)
>Best game in the series
>Medieval 1
Nigga, of the pre-3D ones, Shogun is the undisputed King, of the pre-Steam ones there is Rome 1, and from post-Steam there is Shogun 2.
Here is the pity (You) you're farming for
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 11:37:48 PM No.2101866
>>2101358
Default is either French or Germs. Fairly standard units, doing fairly standard shit across fairly standard realm.
Everyone else runs on gimmicks (even if their gimmick is "we're kind of shit", like Slav factions) and thus isn't default
Anonymous
7/24/2025, 9:25:48 AM No.2102080
>2101865
>tranimefag's opinion is wrong
>doesn't even have any arguments
what a surprise. No (You) for you.
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Anonymous
7/24/2025, 12:11:41 PM No.2102140
>>2100022
>crazy how vomit is better than diarrhea
Anonymous
7/24/2025, 12:15:38 PM No.2102144
Avin a giggle
Avin a giggle
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>>2102080
>Too big pussy to reply directly
Re-read the post, and you will find the arguments.
You can read, now?
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Anonymous
7/24/2025, 12:26:02 PM No.2102156
>>2102144
kill yourself tranimefag medieval and rome and better than your shogunslop
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Anonymous
7/24/2025, 4:03:13 PM No.2102321
>>2102080
>>2102156
Don't defile the comfy 2d og tw thread with your bad vibes. Shogun is cool too, it started the whole series and doesn't suffer a lot of the weird balancing and thematic issues that mtw introduced to the series. It's very simple and just works. The only problem is that it's not on the updated mtw engine and you don't have the pre-battle screen where you can save and change your army composition instead of it being randomly decided by the game when you bring more than 16 units. I know about samurai warlords but it seems unfinished and I stopped playing because the maps had weird texture issues.
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Anonymous
7/24/2025, 4:07:42 PM No.2102326
>>2102321 (me)
and by thematic issues i mean that in MTW it's that you're supposed to be doing a world conquest in medieval europe which makes no sense. i know this is definitely an autistic complaint but in the shogun period everybody was actually fighting and killing eachother and trying to conquer all of japan. but it makes no sense for england or the hre to conquer all of europe in the middle ages. it requires you to suspend disbelief immediately which you dont need to do with shogun. which is why i like viking invasion more but it doesnt have guns :/ which sucks. i was trying to look at other mtw mods that are set in a period with guns like pike & musket and ntw but they also seemed unfinished or were broken and didnt work respectively. a shame
Anonymous
7/24/2025, 4:10:11 PM No.2102328
>2102144
nope still not giving a (You) attentionwhoring tranimefag