Thread 2110328

Where the FUCK are the modern Napoleon games?
Napoleon total war was FIFTEEN YEARS AGO
There should be tons of these games, it has all the cinematic, dramatic, and strategic elements to make amazing strategy games

SO WHERE ARE THEY?

>>2110328 (OP)
You're asking for a bunch of postmodern retards to make a game about linear warfare during the height of European colonialism. If it ever happens it will be absolute garbage.

>>2110331
From France point of view, this was the lowest point of colonialism

>>2110328 (OP)
>Napoleon Total War was FIFTEEN YEARS AGO
And it was trash? Legitimately the most boring TW game with the stalest unit roster.

>>2110331
>everything is muh identity politics

>>2110328 (OP)
Uh that would be a very eurocentric and pro-nationalism game anon and those are both absolutely unacceptable!

>>2117261
Yes, the modern game developer, be they mutt or not, are obsessed with identity politics.

>>2117261
Yes, to modern devs

>>2110328 (OP)
>Napoleon total war was FIFTEEN YEARS AGO
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>>2110328 (OP)
Grand Tactician guys are making one

I know I am wasting my time saying this since most of you are tards.
But here is the simple fact. Very few people understand Napoleonic warfare. Fewer understand why Napoleon was so successful initially. I have read tombs on the subject and even professional historians usually are clueless. But if you dig long enough you can find someone who knows what they are talking about, and then it makes sense.
Now if you expect the idiots who dominate the gaming industry today to understand the nature of the warfare then you will be very disappointed. Furthermore to adequately simulate this you would require a complex system that is simply beyond the capacity of most gamers to grasp.
It just wouldn't sell enough copies to justify the effort and expense of making. Especially when most of you chuckle fucks would simply pirate it and go "lololol" like the simple minded morons you are..

>>2121877
>It just wouldn't sell enough copies to justify the effort and expense of making
It's actually just this and not the other stuff you wrote. Based on what I heard about CA recently, Pharaoh might end up being the final Total War game because even Warhammer isn't the cash cow it once was.

>>2121895
Anyone with a smidge of foresight could've seen Pharaoh was going to be another disappointment. Most fans are waiting for a Medieval 3, an Empire 2 or even a Victoria - with (this is important) the amount of diversity Warhammer had.

>>2121895
Shut the fuck up boicunt, Pharaoh is great. Try not being incompetent.

>>2121877
>Now if you expect the idiots who dominate the gaming industry today to understand the nature of the warfare then you will be very disappointed. Furthermore to adequately simulate this you would require a complex system that is simply beyond the capacity of most gamers to grasp.
Frankly you can apply that to nearly every military wargame from almost any era, it's always going to be dumbed down for a major audience.

>>2123368
Imagine being so defensive over Pharaoh that when anon makes a comment about the developer's business strategy regarding it you instantly start seething as if he personally besmirched it's virtue.

>>2121877
>I have read tombs on the subject
What a cryptic statement

>>2117261
>I'm a blind retard
we can tell

>>2121877
just made a post to suck yourself off huh?

>>2123373
Boicunt obvious samefag lol

>>2121877
>Fewer understand why Napoleon was so successful initially. I have read tombs on the subject and even professional historians usually are clueless.
I'll take the bait, shitty and obvious as it is. Explain what you think is the unknown secretive reason for Napoleons success

>>2123991
Lol bro, just line up your infantry and shoot!

>>2116791
It was pretty comfy & kino.

>>2124594
A mealy mouthed reply

>>2124602
Your mother says my cock tastes a lot better than yours.

>>2124624
This is your average NTW fanboy

>>2110328 (OP)
We will never have anything good anymore.
They even killed the guy who was working on interdimensional internet to download games from universes without censorshit.

>>2124583
Well bonus points at least for not mentioning levee en masse and the corps system as if this was some esoteric knowledge

>>2121877
This, Napoleonics can only truly be approximated with tabletop wargames with dozens of commanders per side, vidya is for little pea-brained retards who just steamroll 15iq AI's

>>2124959
lol bro just flank them with cavalry!

>>2124997
Bonus points for not mentioning columns and lines

>>2110328 (OP)
who gives a shit about fucking napoleon retard?
give us something cool instead

>>2110328 (OP)
>Napoleon total war was FIFTEEN YEARS AGO
fuck

>>2121877
>>2124959
making more posts to suck yourself off huh?

>>2125454
Are you stupid?

The funniest shit about this is that Scourge of War released in 2024so this entire thread and most of the morons in here proves how fucking useless and pointless this board is.

>>2125500
>Boy, I sure do I love sucking myself off!
The post.

>>2125550
Coulda just said yes

>>2125571
Nah. There's a lot of Napoleonic or adjacent games in the space if you want the same flavour and there's always more every year or so. A lot of the fun is finding them. I don't usually come here but fuck was this a microcosm of why I'll stop.

>>2125550
It's a fucking remaster

>>2125573
OK good if all you'll do is bitch then don't come back

>>2125577
Original was 2015 , so count it as two games then thanks

>>2125573
What a stupid post.
>I'd rather leave than make coherent posts
Good fucking riddance

>>2125596
I think you can interpret it more as "ree total war and paradox games yum yum, indie games and using my brain oooo scary" but you're the moron not me. I don't see the problem with getting recos for games that actually cover the complexity that the anon was saying exists in these wars. If you only want point and click meme games like 90% of the stuff here that's cool, but deeper stuff does exist

>>2125612
>another entirely incoherent non sequitor
I was so excited when you said you were leaving

This slapfight is exciting, how about being on topic with The Campaigns of the Danube 1805 & 1809, another Napoleonic released in 2004 and updated in 2017

>>2125626
I'm sure the mechanics are great, it'd just be even better to have the QoL and aesthetics of a modern title. I can imagine playing this on Win98 alongside Panzer General 2

>>2125636
>fatigue is 2/??, what is the max?
>but that number is red, indicating it's bad, so MORE fatigue is better? Or is the bar just always red?
>why not have a full green bar like with supply and morale, and then have fatigue detract from that to keep the bar logic consistent?
I just want a good UI with good QoL

>>2125636
It depends what you actually want from the game. Those QOL and aesthetics you get from the popular games with bigger budgets result in things that are total wars, warnos, and even a bunch of recent slitherine/matrix games that are losing complexity for the sake of mass appeal. Shit Panzer Corps is the best example of that, where the game is a hollow shell of its former self

And that's fine if you want something focused on fun and easy gameplay, but you won't be getting stuff like scourge of war, grigsby, rebel fury, ultimate general, regiments, fields of glory, armored battalion, etc etc, with modern game design. It's getting better over time, but some people do just want strategy and quality of the game to be first and foremost and at least for now that means sacrificing it being pretty and snappy and a visual feast. If anything it makes it easier to sift through games because I personally dislike the slop total war and EU HOI stuff so I can easily avoid it

>>2125650
I would be fine with a napoleon game on the polish level of Ultimate General

>>2125652
Honestly same but only if they cleaned up the quirks that really hold it back from being worth really investing in vs just playing a hex and counter board game because the more I got into UG the more it frustrated me and it's sad the dev went to shit before they refined it more

>>2125612
>deeper stuff does exist
Could you name a couple please? I have looked but obviously not in the right places. I wouldn't mind getting into a game where some real thinking and decision making is involved rather than the mainstream victory guaranteed slop.
And just ignore the children with fetal alcohol syndrome, like this waste of space >>2125596
They cant be educated, they will forever be retarded

>>2125672
>I wouldn't mind getting into a game where some real thinking and decision making is involved rather than the mainstream victory guaranteed slop.
OK then play multiplayer AoE2

>>2125672
>responding to himself now
just sad

I appreciate this one anon screeching pointlessly who also hasn't been ontopic once in this thread yet, suck a fat one ya coont

>>2125672
For specifically Napoleonic then Scourge of War. Unless you're using a TV which breaks the game, it's probably your best bet to invest time

Otherwise the honest answer is Vassal and whichever game tickles you best and that's an entire ocean to pick from and a hobby unto itself deciding which work best. People will argue its not true /vst/ but it's a computer game at the end of the day and you can play async with all us old farts. I'll be honest though, of all the big historical genres that one is the thinnest in general, ACW, pike and shotte, yadda yadda are all much more robust. For reasons another anon mentioned earlier. If you're open to it just do Blind Swords or A Most Fearful Sacrifice on Vassal and you're getting a better game than 90% of the shit on /vst/ from a strategy perspective. Its not like having animations and automations make a lot of these games actually *good*

>>2125710
>Unless you're using a TV
who the goddamn uses a TV to play PC games

>>2125710
Yeah, he's a rather annoying long winded faggot ain't he?

>>2125713
I like it for ergonomics. I'm old and have a bad back so on the couch I can get much better support and keep my arms at a neutral position as well with my little lap wireless keyboard setup. I also only play slow ass games so I can take my time.

It's relevant because most of the VERY niche games I play are absolutely broken with the scaling and whatnot to 4k resolution. And no, changing down doesn't work. So it's buyer beware. I think maybe 8/10 of the stuff Ill buy Ill have to take over to my pc to play which is a bit annoying. But it is what it is, indie and all that.

>>2125713
Fucking retards is who.

Creative Assembly would rather develop another iteration of unbalanced fantasy slop than create another gunpowder Total War game.

Stop being such a fucking prick. Lots of people still play strategy games over email or now discord or whatever. I'm happy my retired friends are still having fun and being social from the couch playing strategy games at their own pace instead of lonely miserable pieces of shit like you who offer nothing

>>2110328 (OP)
March of the Eagles II soon. Trust the JoPlan.

>>2121909
>with (this is important) the amount of diversity Warhammer had.
How lol. At the end of the day there's only so many ways sort spearmen and archers and create fake categories of sole swordsmen that didn't exist.

>>2123991
NTA but artillery, artillery, artillery on the tactical level and the corps system on the operational level always ensuring he had the superior battlefield position and concentration of force.

>>2125768
>starts bitching replying like a little passive aggressive cunt
no fuck you. You've insulted me and made like 10 off topic retarded posts at me for no reason lol. I'm going to fucking continue what seemed to be your mission of entirely tanking this shit thread. Deal with it faggot
>>2125772
>the super secret thing only I know is the exact same thing literally everyone knows
Maybe read what I was responding to first next time.

>>2125785
>the super secret thing only I know is the exact same thing literally everyone knows
I'm not claiming it's super secret I'm answering the question straightforwardly.

>>2125788
Yes, without reading what the question was directed at apparently.
>I know I am wasting my time saying this since most of you are tards.
But here is the simple fact. Very few people understand Napoleonic warfare. Fewer understand why Napoleon was so successful initially. I have read tombs on the subject and even professional historians usually are clueless.
Everyone knows corps and artillery and levee en masse and all that shit. It's basic knowledge of the time period. I'm curious what that pseud thought he knew that nobody else did

>>2125792
>Yes, without reading what the question was directed at apparently.
No anon I read that I was just chiming in. Jesus I was just having fun and contributing my bit.

>>2125797
Well it was a useless contribution, thanks for that.
>just wanted to have fun and contribute
too late. That one fucking autist pissed me off for no reason and I plan on shitting up this thread out of spite now. Sorry

>>2125798
Based desu.

>>2124636
>They even killed the guy who was working on interdimensional internet
Feels bad, man

>>2125710
>>2125672 was me
I will Scourge a miss, I am looking for something which includes a campaign.
Okay I just checked out Vassal, it looks really good. Lots of choices. Thanks!

>>2126271
Just be aware that some games may need you to either own the physical version or source the charts online. Some companies are very protective of it. I can't speak to whether people online would be willing to share if you were playing with them, Im sure most would. And some scans are on BGG as well. For a lot of these games it's the only and best way to play instead of going to conventions. Which are fun because you guarantee you dont interact with fagits like the one failing to derail the thread. But obviously cons arent easy to get to and even coinsims and gmts arent really worth going if youre not friends with everyone and/or interested in prototypes. But now that GMT is pissy and making digital to cover their loses a lot of these games do have good implementations. So check out Rebel Fury as a good example

>>2123406
kek

>>2126297
>fagits
Lol
>failing to derail the thread
Rent free. But nonetheless it was your stupid ass derailing the thread from the beginning retard. Maybe you should stop sucking yourself off dumb fuck

>>2126457
Your time of month again, huh? You poor girl!

the masons don't really want to touch the french revolution, people might start asking questions about what actually happened

>>2126516
Low effort. Try again

Victory and Glory for a non paradox option at the grand strategy level. It's billed as from an acclaimed board game creator but that's not really accurate when he designed a bunch of misses and contributed to the mediocre age of empires 3 game. But still worth checking out, I thought it was kinda fun for a bit. I'll poke through my hard drive later for more I might be forgetting to keep this alive and because the meltdown is the funniest I've seen in months here

>>2125797
I appreciate SOMEONE's trying to have a real conversation.

>>2126547
So was I until some fuckface retard decided he would rather be a dumbshit like this retard here
>you're melting down
>>2125768
Nah this guy is just a pussy and a retard and deserves to have his precious little thread shitted up a bit by someone who isn't him.

>>2126536
>please stop being an prick
>uhh it's actually funny you're being a prick
Sure bud

Just going to keep posting Napoleonics I find on my hard drive until jannies decide theyve had enough of the offtopic nonsense. Crown of Glory: Emperors Edition. A bit older, 2009 was the last update, but on a deep discount now if you pay for games. Good tactical battles, dead multiplayer of course. And boats! Another one of those classic goodies that has that old school feel

>>2126606
>The funniest shit about this is that Scourge of War released in 2024so this entire thread and most of the morons in here proves how fucking useless and pointless this board is.
>why all the heckin toxicity and off topic shitflinging
Fuck you're dumb.

>I don't usually come here but fuck was this a microcosm of why I'll stop.
>now I won't leave because I enjoy it too much
Fucking dumb cunt

>says he's gonna leave
>immediately two different people tell him to go
>nah I'll just stay and endlessly bitch about being told to leave
>I'm not toxic you are
Fucking retarded inbred

>keep melting down, it's funny
>I can't wait for the jannies to come and save me from the meltdown
Fucking reddit tier mentality

>I'm going to shit up the thread
>this guy didn't shit up the thread hard enough, what a failure
>yo bro stop shitting up the thread, why you do dis
Fucking stupid I swear

>this guy specifically said he's going to ruin the thread because I keep annoying and insulting him for no reason
>instead of just ignoring him I should make sure every single post I make either addresses him directly or at least refers to him
>this will prove something I guess
fucking slow learner

>I should I accuse him of off topic shitflinging
>literally every post I make needs to include off topic shitflinging for no good reason
Fucking hypocrites these days

>I'm going to keep posting in the thread
>doesn't
Fucking lol.

>inb4 keep going this is funny or some other cope
lol, lmao

>>2126624
>>2126622
>>2126620
etc
Look guys, we fractured the little girl's brain. How amusing!
>>2126536
Witnessing her meltdown is amusing. I love this thread now.

Anyway, I for one would quite enjoy a polished Napoleon game

>>2126711
same

>>2126636
>her
Lol
>he's melting down
Don't look now but simply engaging me is helping to make this thread worse. You're not winning

>>2126711
Welp if that one nigger ever does what he said and lists all the ones he has maybe you'll find one. Of course he can't decide if he wants to stay or go so we might never know. Sorry again

>>2126636
See>>2126624
Cope more faggot

>>2126536
I appreciate you posting these. I am going through the reviews of each one for the pros and cons.

>>2126742
Damn, your period pain must be really bad. Take some aspirin lol.

>>2126752
>helps me shit up the thread even more
Thanks!

Anyone here ever play AGEOD‘s Napoleon‘s Campaigns? How does it hold up to later AGeOD titles like Rise of Prussia?

>>2110331
AYO
I WUZ NAPOLEON
>>2110328 (OP)
napoleonic warfare is dumb and boring as fuck. at least in pike and shot time you got melee scrimishes and cav charges. in napoleonic warfare its all about artillery. cav charges were happening but theres no chance they will be powerful in game for the sake of autenticicty. rest is just lines of infantry unloading into other lines of infantry.
>>2116791
yup

>>2126806
>napoleonic warfare is dumb and boring as fuck
Die

>>2126806
>at least in pike and shot time you got melee scrimishes and cav charges
You dumb motherfucker

>>2126754
Do keep going. We have come to enjoy laughing at your girlish antics. Its a form of comedic relief while we adults keep talking.

Napoleon rule of iron

>>2126923
See>>2126624
>we're all laughing at you
Not the one guy I was specifically trying to make leave who seems to have left. You keep trying to insult me cuz you're stupid but literally every post you make, rsgsrdless of how much you think you owned me, is simply contributing to my stated goal. Keep going though, simply demonstrating how much of a fucking retard you are.

>>2126946
That just came out this month.

I didn't leave you fucking cumstain, I'm just only posting when I have something ontopic to contribute because god forbid people have conversations on here

Rebel Fury. It isn't napoleonic (ACW). But what it is is an excellent remake of a classic system that highlights a lot of the movement and positioning inherent to the era. The scenarios aren't deep because it is very much an intro to the system and the sequel is coming soon, but as far as digital implementations it does the job. There's a decided intention to make all the scenarios have terrain disadvantage to attacking, to the point that attacking feels very high risk low reward. People bitched about it a lot, but the truth is it actually becomes a very teachable moment. The ideal way to play is utilize the great movement rules to pin down the opponent or funnel them into forced bad attacks. Meanwhile position yourself and FOCUS on objectives. I love that it filtered out players who wanted to just attack attack attack. It rewards planning where to make risky attacks while forcing the opponent to have to make suboptimal plays as well. And so you're heavily rewarded for everything you do outside of actually attacking which is a nice change from even a lot of the games on this board that are just combat oriented.

>>2127090
>I didn't leave you fucking cumstain, I'm just only posting when I have something ontopic to contribute because god forbid people have conversations on here
See>>2126618 and >>2126620
Lol. Remember when you said you were gonna keep going and then didn't until I called you out for it. All of a sudden you reappear to prove a point that you never left and I'm not bothering you, which would ring more true if you had posted more, like you said you would, before I mentioned it, and if you, once again, didn't specifically address me lol.
>God forbid we have conversations on here
I mean I was trying to until you started being a cunt like 70 posts ago. Funny how now you're acting like you literally weren't the first guy to be a real cunt in this thread for no reason whatsoever. Nigger tier behavior

Yo what happened. All you guys told me this was so much fun and wanted to keep it going forever. Then you all bail? What the fuck is that about? Come back and try to have a conversation around me some more. Some insults too. I really loved the attention, it's all I had in life. Please. Come back?

Yo know if you let this thread die now not only do I win, but all you
>this meltdown is funny faggots
get proven to be the passive aggressive cunts I already knew you were right?

Its hard to recommend AGEOD jank but Wars of Napoleon is alright and ten years old. It isnt as bad as the reviews suggest, just be prepared for bugs and crashed

>>2127490
Yeah I wouldnt recommend anything by AGEOD either. It looks okay but the jank makes it hard to play.

So many games in this era to check out now.
How do you guys judge game reviews?
My go to is to read the negative reviews first. I discount all the negative reviews which can not express their exact reasons for disliking the game. The ones which offer reasonable point by point criticism I read carefully and decide if any of them are deal breakers Only then I might read some positive reviews, again looking for a comprehensive breakdown.

>>2127700
This might not be helpful but I find there really is no way of knowing if it's good or not outside of watching extended gameplay sessions and then hoping for the best. Most of these games are mediocre, made by people who dont really understand how to leverage the video game medium or how to design a good tight game. And you get a lot of stuff that's just vastly inferior to traditional hex wargames or even sam mustafa stuff where there is a ton of playtesting and community before it hits your screen/table. Most of these games are small team efforts let into the wild to die. Its why pirating everything is recommended by some because 90% of the stuff Ive recommended I dont actually consider worth my time and that's ignoring how many are just riddled with inexcusable technical issues that stop me from playing at all

>>2127848
No, that is very helpful. It was watching game play sessions of "Grand Tactician American Civil War" which convinced me, along with reviews, not to bother purchasing it.
I am becoming steadily more convinced that great computer wargames simply do not exist. There are some "good" ones, sure, worth the time and money. But not great. Of all those I have tried even the best come up short in some manner.

>>2127936
That's actually a perfect game example because I too fell for the hype online and was very interested. Then acquired it booted it up and was like what the actual fuck is this. I think I bounced after an hour between how bad it felt and the bugs that broke a battle within like ten seconds. Which is a real shame because on paper it seems great. But its like stratrgic command civil war. On paper amazing. I fire it up and its such a poor experience and objectively worse than playing any of the good tabletop ones I have, and the computet aided stuff isnt smoooth or enjoyable or functional so whats the point.

The good thing (and related to vst especially) is the wargame companies are failing. Their core demo is dying of old age, economic uncertainty is making it so their overpriced small print runs wont sell. Youre seeing gmt panic pivot to making digital versions of games. So it means we might get better options than vassal soon for computer wargaming. Which is great for this topic. Napoleonic focused companies are going to have to go digital sooner than later or fold

Unity of Command 2 is a great wargame, but some might see it as more of a puzzle

>>2127936
>>2127848
>I base all my game purchases on youtube video reviews and streamers
Dumbfucks like you are why the genre is dying/dead.

>>2127965
Not even close to ontopic. Also not a wargame

>>2128073
What part of "extended gameplay" and "dont trust what anyone says" went so far over your head dumbfuck? The genre is dying because reading comprehension is clearly down and the kind of person no one wants to interact with socially is going up it seems

>>2128076
>I would rather watch a video than maybe try playing it myself to form my own judgments
>uhhhh no you're stupid
Suicide yourself to death dumbfuck
>you can't handle the social aspect
how dare I either go by word of mouth of people I know and maybe try playing a game with them or whatever instead of an edited and view seeking streamers opinion.
>not even close to ontopic
The only thing worse than a janny is a wannabe one. Pathetic

Oh look, the bitch is back and this time she is off her meds as well. Now we can be entertained by 18 hours straight of her period pain.

>>2128076
>on topic
This thread is for Napoleon themed games within the last 15 years. Go shit on the retards talking about American civil war games, or games that are older than 15 years both of which have been brought up so far both most likely by (you).

>>2128093
Lol. See>>2126624 and >>2126754

>>2128094
This may shock you, but sometimes conversations go in different directions as they evolve when people arent just jumping in to fling shit like you. Unity of command out of nowhere is completely off topic. Computer games that OOP may find interesting since their request is extremely niche and ACW and Nap are considered adjacent enough that driving interest in one helps the other isnt. Also Ive made multiple recommendations for games that are less than 15 years old so far in addition to others, try contributing yourself perhaps.

>>2128096
DR
The aspirin didnt work huh? Try something stronger.

>>2128121
Nice off topic post shitbird
>>2128130
>didn't read
>responds to every post
LOL, fucking retarded ain't ya?

>>2128121
>it's ok when i do it
Reddit is over that way

Think they'll ever get bored? I genuinely just feel bad for them at this point. Anyway, Wellington's Victory. It looks much older than its age. Newest version is 2019. Classic sensibilities. AI is pretty dumb sadly

>>2128170
>concern trolling now
man you're just a living meme aren't you?
>she's on her period
>uhhh melty
>keep going this is funny
>now I feel bad for you
What's next? Trying to psychoanalyze my life? Praying for me? Lol. I'm sure I'll get to find out soon enough
>will he ever get bored
I spend less time typing this shit out than this faggot does >>2128121 which is achieving my aim pretty satisfactorily

>>2128170
>AI is pretty dumb sadly
Very much the case for all computer games. Which is why a seamless multiplayer with a sensible match making system is so essential.

>>2128367
Not to be contratian but the opposite end that has worked for decades for some of the games listed has always been asynchronous PBEM style systems for turn based games. It's slower but lots of us old grogs will have tons on the go at a time to be connected to friends over distances. It becomes a social thing.

>>2128380
Not to stomp on PBEM, I am sure for the right games its fine but personally I find it tedious. When I play I like to fully immerse myself in the moment for hours on end. Intense concentration. But I can appreciate the advantages PBEM can have. I cant think of any game in this genre which offers the sort of seamless multiplayer experience I would expect.
For example a system that pools you with players of the same experience, skill, and reliability. So you dont end up constantly playing against rage quitters or ghosters. Then time zones and duration. Allow players to choose pools where the expected duration of gaming is stated.

>>2125550
/v/pol tourists don't play vidya

>>2128622
The more accessible you make something the less investment and accountability you have from people participating in it. Your system is more realistic for total war because it's pop junk, but all of the games in this thread cant segregate players or you'll never find a match. The people who truly want niche napoleonic experiences would rather wait a bit between turns than ever play with the kind of people who play total war for instance

>>2128716
>the less investment and accountability you have from people participating in it.
We're still talking about videogames right, that relaxing activity people do for fun as a break from the demanding parts of life requiring investment and accountability?

>>2128986
Yes. The historical wargame community IRL is a bunch of old white guys who would have zero tolerance for the shit in this thread let alone this board and would not give you games. Whether you like it or not, adults in the real world commit to things and honor their word and expect reciprocity

The people playing these types of games aren't hopping on for a 15 minute match with a random while mom microwaves their tendies and the comes to get their laundry and kick them off the game for dinner. These are old shits who preplan cons years in advance and preplan their entire day around which 1-3 hour games they are playing and with who. And when someone noshows or is a dick or whatever theyre iced out permanently. Thats why they love asynchronous stuff for online

>>2129017
Wait, you mean I wouldn't have to tolerate immature moronic assholes?
Okay, you have done it, you have convinced me to PBEM

>>2129017
>Yes. The historical wargame community IRL is a bunch of old white guys who would have zero tolerance for the shit in this thread let alone this board and would not give you games. Whether you like it or not, adults in the real world commit to things and honor their word and expect reciprocity
Lol you really do sound like a colossal faggot. Maybe you should just fuck off from here and go back.
>blah blah more off topic shit
Imagine being this much of a retard you can't stay on topic for like 3 posts in a row. Pretty sad

>>2129032
It's so great, the one fuck in here who showed up right after you? You just ban them from the venue. It's actually amazing. I have no idea why they haven't been banned from here yet, but these communities are so small that people like the annoying anon would never get a game for the rest of their life. It's truly liberating. Asynchronous online wargaming in niche periods is always a handful of really committed retired dudes who are happy to gatekeep filth because they have allll the time in the world. It's why this thread has so many turn based things, real time just isnt popular for these peeps

Kind of fitting that retirees who love historical games don't live in "real time"

>>2129077
>waaah waaah
Nigger I'm literally the first post in this thread. You all showed up after me.
>you just ban em
So the real question is which one of you faggots was this >>2121877
The one who thinks we should ban retards who contribute nothing, or the guy seething about people being off topic and not contributing and being toxic like a little cuck?

>>2129095
At least in digital the game does the brainwork for them. I had an irl group that played historicals and every skirmish game that should take 30-45 mins went 2+ hours because they have no sense of ungency and cant remember the rules for shit. So I'm playing a dude who is 68 or some shit who needs me to walk him through every single step he takes but he also spend like a solid few minutes deliberating every action. Asynchronous online rocks because irl I can't just walk away and come back during his turn. I will miss the sweet lead minis though

>>2129109
>I love how it's slow and deliberate
>unlike zoomers with no patience
>but I hate how it's too slow and I don't have patience
>so I'll bitch about the people I just spent like 4 posts jerking off
Anyways discussions about IRL war gaming is off topic. Please focus man, wouldn't want the thread to go to shit now would we?

I've shared like 90% of the game recs on here so the talk of being offtopic from the one troll is hilarious as are their tears.

Ultimate Admiral Age of Sail 2021. Honestly pretty good, and not exclusively napoleonic but covers it enough. Fun, fast, still people playing

>>2129113
>more off topic shit
tsk tsk. That's great and all but it doesn't change that you all posted after me, I wasn't the first second or even third guy to shit fling, and you've posted nearly as much off topic shit as I have. I can tell you're an old boomer type just from your hypocrisy, total lack of self awareness and bitchy passive aggressive behaviour

>>2110328 (OP)
Scourge of War Remastered launched last year.

>But le heckin graphics suck!
Grow up, incel

>>2129198
you want me to be excited about a remaster of a 10-year-old game

>>2129113
Played that a few times myself. Its a pretty good game.

>>2129017
So what PBEM Napoleonic game do you recommend for a first timer to PBEM? Something that is still popular enough to get a match and not kiddie tier.

>>2129201
No, you're supposed to be excited about tabletop pbem wargaming with a bunch of senile faggots.

>>2129923
The people who actually post on topic games instead of vaccine related shit and crybaby bullshit for days like this is your daycare?

>>2129217
Think the dev died but from what I remember talking to folks it's good for what it is and not an over the top math thing like most of them

>>2130115
>waaah more off topic shit waaah
>on topic games like tabletop wargaming in this thread about video games
/tg/ is over that way faggot.

>>2130115
>>2130130
Oh also

The fact that you think anyone reads your shit is hilarious. I see a samefag spamming and I just skip and go to my hard drive to find more napoleonics. I haven't read any of your posts dumbass youre just bumping to remind me to share more games

>>2130156
>haven't read any of your posts
>responds to them constantly and without fail
>often directly addressing something I said
>I'll go and find more Napoleonics
>has yet to really do so
Dishonest and a cuck is no way to go through life.

Hey whatever happened to that guy would tell me to keep going constantly? Is this no longer fun for him too?

Backed yourself into a corner on this one. If you respond to me directly I win. If you don't then the thread dies and i win. If you post another game I win since like 3 times now you've only done so as a direct response to me calling you out for not doing so so I know you read my post. Decisions decisions. I'm sure whatever you do will be just as pathetic and non productive as almost all your other posts so far

So what was the secret to Napoleons success? Defeat in detail?

>>2130199
Ask this faggot >>2121877
Not that he's bothered to give anything resembling an explanation in his 75 posts of rambling nonsense.

>>2130199
Other anon explained above. He didn't read the tombs therefore he died

Wargames Designs Studios put out some kino titles.
https://wargameds.com/collections/napoleonic-battles/products/campaign-bautzen

I am just here to discuss Napoleonics. If you see someone trolling/spamming/off topic just keep reporting them. Don't reply, dont even reply indirectly. Eventually a jannie will ban them.

Now, how about "March of the Eagles"? Anyone played that? I gave it a go, its not too bad for a beginner but would not recommend it for someone who is experienced.

>>2130648
Sorry buds. Looks like the thread is dying. I can't claim credit for it though even though I wish I could. Don't worry though, I already made sure to report you for off topic posting and instigating a flame war. Gotta keep everyone honest these days.

I await my ban for announcing a report but alas, it's a small price to pay to ensure the integrity of the board.

>>2132373
>Looks like the thread is dying.
much like the napoleonic games genre

>>2130648
It sucked. No tactical depth, no strategic depth, and everything in the middle was severely limited.

>>2134930
It wasn't that bad. A bit shallow yeah, but so are most games from any genre.

>>2121877
Well, maybe. But God dammit I'm giving it a try

>>2124964
nonsence, i think the best way to go about this is to give players bots to command around, think M&B napoleonic warfare with players controlling much more bots. this way you can have big battles with only as few as say 10 players

>>2138193
Sure except if this thread has demonstrated one thing its that Napoleonic tabletop war gaming players are fucking bots themselves so what's the point?