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Anonymous No.2111382 >>2111407 >>2111988 >>2112010 >>2112078 >>2112826 >>2113051 >>2113156 >>2115540 >>2121464 >>2122033
how much rpg do you like in your strategy game?
Anonymous No.2111407 >>2111424
>>2111382 (OP)
yes
Anonymous No.2111424
>>2111407
correct
Anonymous No.2111433
RPG + Tactics/Strategy is peak genre fusion
they both came from tabletop so bringing them back together is like gaming coming full circle
Anonymous No.2111988 >>2111996 >>2113963
>>2111382 (OP)
depends on what I want to play. RPG mechanics in any kind of top down strategy game? Fuck no. RPG mechanics in a first person based strategy game? Fuck yes
Anonymous No.2111996 >>2112003 >>2112004 >>2112082 >>2112377 >>2113963 >>2121127 >>2122035
>>2111988
>first person based strategy game
Anonymous No.2112003 >>2112082
>>2111996
NTA and I may not know an exactly first-person perspective strategy game, but there are actually a decent few where you're bound to an in-game "general".
Anonymous No.2112004 >>2127035
>>2111996
TW is a top down, but CK is a FPS(first-person strategy) because you play a character looking down at a map.
Anonymous No.2112010 >>2112061 >>2113156 >>2113180 >>2114277 >>2114720 >>2120976 >>2123198 >>2126999
>>2111382 (OP)
Mount and Blade my beloved
How did they manage to fuck it all up with Bannerlord??
Anonymous No.2112061 >>2112165
>>2112010
turkish
Anonymous No.2112078
>>2111382 (OP)
Original War tier
>Units have experience-based stats: soldiering, building, researching, driving
>Stats are improved both via game and finishing level
Literally anything beyond that and you can go fuck off to /vrpg/
Anonymous No.2112082
>>2111996
>>2112003
Mid-00s there was a handful of FPS that were about building RTS-style base (so you get access to better gear)
Anonymous No.2112137 >>2112183
>Rust is a strategy game
wew
Anonymous No.2112165
>>2112061
but they were turkish before too
Anonymous No.2112183 >>2112204 >>2112944
>>2112137
I never specify Rust. Plus most of them had on each side dedicated builder, who was supervising things like in RTS. So everyone was a grunt that the over-guy was commanding. Fun, but all servers are dead. The best one had a theme of post-apo humans vs mutant monsters, can't even recall the name now
Anonymous No.2112204
>>2112183
I was kinda hoping you would which is why I dropped the rust bait. Thanks for try anyways, sounds neat.
Anonymous No.2112377
>>2111996
Never heard of Mount and Blade?
Anonymous No.2112826
>>2111382 (OP)
Depends on the strat game.
Anonymous No.2112944 >>2128816
>>2112183
>post-apo humans vs mutant monsters
Battle for newerth or something like that? I remember playing that
Anonymous No.2113051
>>2111382 (OP)
>tfw we'll never get persistent troops identities-lord
why even live?
>tfw lost the image describing mortal wounds
Anonymous No.2113156
>>2111382 (OP)
The campaign of Dawn of War 2 is my favourite blend of RPG in an RTS, leveling up the sergeants of elite squads is such an amazing concept i'm shocked nobody has done anything similar since.
>>2112010
The butter went to their heads

Are persistent units and veterancy an RPG thing? I refuse to play a strategy game unless they're present and most games don't go far enough with them.

I'd love to have a veteran destroyer in homeworld with a named captain with some level based stat buffs and enhanced weaponry
Anonymous No.2113180
>>2112010
No King Harlaus, no soul
Anonymous No.2113963 >>2113970 >>2114255 >>2121797
>>2111996
>>2111988
>>first person based strategy game
PEAK INCOMING

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAN8md0Lb4I
Anonymous No.2113970 >>2114255 >>2114255 >>2121797
>>2113963
>"Who's next!?"
>"Recycler here!"
>"Bobcat here!"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7VxcqB428so
Anonymous No.2114255
>>2113970
>>2113963
I have no clue how this game was supposed to be played but I just used >>2113970 guys and then went ham.
The earthquake weapon thing was really cool.
Anonymous No.2114277 >>2115506 >>2121018
>>2112010
Revisiting the game recently, I think I realized the biggest problem I personally had with it; It takes so long to really get things going. M&B is a hero waiting room, unlike say Kenshi it's not really "fun" to horribly lose past the first time a bandit captures you, resets your progress, and has you vow revenge. Bannerlord just stretched out that early game preamble way too far, and by the time you're joining a kingdom the court politics aren't deep enough to feel like I've been rewarded for arriving into noblehood.
Anonymous No.2114720
>>2112010
I like Bannerlord more than Warband. Warband is obsolete for me now.
Anonymous No.2115506 >>2125860
>>2114277
Yeah, it's mindboggling how they managed to make vassal gameplay even less interesting than in Warband. Also, maybe it's just me but the mid-game mercenary phase in Bannerlord feels too underdeveloped/short.
Anonymous No.2115540
>>2111382 (OP)
I like unique personalities and bonuses or penalties if a character interacts with certain factions or other characters with different alignments. Special abilities for individual units are where I draw the line. It's why I couldn't get into things like Warcraft 3 or Nucom.
Anonymous No.2120976
>>2112010
Warband was a genuine passion project, Bannerlord was a government-funded project
Anonymous No.2121018 >>2121024
>>2114277
Derthert is such a debbie downer.
Anonymous No.2121024
>>2121018
Never stood a chance with a name like that
Anonymous No.2121127 >>2121429
>>2111996
Divinity: Dragon Commander was part first person rts, part risk, part dating sim, part political sim.
Anonymous No.2121429 >>2121541 >>2121790
>>2121127
which did you pick?
Anonymous No.2121464
>>2111382 (OP)
Huge fan of being able to give people new gear and loot stuff in strategy games
Anonymous No.2121541 >>2121544
>>2121429
everyone picks ophelia
Anonymous No.2121544
>>2121541
dwarf booba tho
Anonymous No.2121790
>>2121429
Gotta go with the thicc big-titted redhead.
It's a shame that the elf and lizard wives have only two paths compared to the dwarf, and especially the skelly.
Should've just axed the rts part, and used the saved time and money to expand on the waifu paths, and give us the cut imp and orc princesses.
Anonymous No.2121797
>>2113970
>>2113963
>Turret deployed!
Anonymous No.2122033
>>2111382 (OP)
CK2 OR Bannerlord, either is good.
Anonymous No.2122035
>>2111996
With quantum computers, we finally be able tens of thousands of soldiers in battle, when player is commanding them in first person by using messengers or commanding from front of his unit.
Anonymous No.2123198
>>2112010
Got rich and stopped trying unironically
Anonymous No.2125860
>>2115506
>is too short because average player doesn't play as one long enough
>game lets you fuck yourself
>community fix is to cheese the hell out of things
>devs never fix the progression
being able to become a vassal at like tier3 is the problem. One AI war you can't stop and suddenly your 6 hour old campaign sees you with 4 castles you can't defend and an army you can't pay because you did the 2nd dumbest thing possible other than starting a player kingdom.

As a mercenary the midgame actually works as well as the system is able to
>the 4th 4 way AI war of the year is free money to fund your 250man doomstack at 30,000 denars a day from mopping up lords with armies of recruits
>castles that are taken repeatedly? Prosperity ground to nothing? Not your problem lol
>get 100 relation with every clan in your faction by dropping 10 lords in their dungeon
>stack levels and combat, charisma, horsemanship, and scouting XP

What still kills the game is that the only way to buy fiefs is to do the iron caravan buy-sell glitch, which gives you real progression to spending the time to stack millions as a mercenary; buying a correct culture safe location fief. That then allows you to continue doing what you do in the infinite AI wars without having some worthless frontier castle or twelve the AI will never defend for you.
Anonymous No.2126999
>>2112010
they fell for what all developers fall for; they chased a wider audience.
i am h(c)oping that they'll fix it. they announced that they'll buff tariffs in the upcoming base game update alongside the dlc
Anonymous No.2127035
>>2112004
no
Anonymous No.2128816
>>2112944
>Battle for newerth
Yes, that's it. Crazy fun for something so simple.