Thread 2132094

Darkest Dungeon 2: Kingdoms - Crimson Court

the last of the DD2 kingdoms updates released today. anyone who will be playing?

>>2132094 (OP)
Didn't everyone hate this game?

>>2132164
It had a bad early access on Epic and a lot of people took that personally and proceeded to bury any real discussion in complaining about things that have been removed or patched out.

It's in a much better state now in terms of balance and content than probably any point previously.

Unfortunately the latest scenario added a lot of bugs.

>>2132094 (OP)
nah I'm good

did not need a sequel

sequel did not need an expansion

>>2132304
red dit is down the hall and to the left. oh and to hell with marketers. the game had one chance it it blew it.

>>2132358
>did not need a sequel
I think it did need a sequel honestly.
Invest some of that money they made into a game that doesn't do shit like copy/paste each boss 3 times. The same formula with less repetition could have been good.
Unfortunately for everyone, the game they made was not a sequel.

>>2132094 (OP)
Why are they even wasting their time making updates for this game, just cut your loses on focus on something else? I can't really think of that many games that flopped and later managed to have a huge resurgence of players years later due to updates even if the game is better on launch. At the end of the day dd2 is just a bad roguelite, there's nothing much to it.

>>2132094 (OP)
It is not the same without wayne`s narration.

>>2132358
I don't mind that they made a sequel, I do mind that they went full retard on the roguelite metaprogression gameplay model for the sequel.

>>2132304
holy reddit spacing
game is full shit
it has many mechanics which do not work or retarded or superficial and exist for no reason
its literally a dd game where stress doesnt matter once you get relationships rolling and relationshilps are one of those shit mechanics which shouldnt even fucking exist
class balance is a complete wack
lots of bullshit which still kills you straight up cos of bad luck
in general its very tedious and unrewarding experience

>>2132638
in addition everyone is a fag

>>2132638
Stress was reworked for the worse and relationships should have been weaker and work together virtues and afflictions.

But the biggest issue is that it is neither a dungeon crawler or roguelite. They should have had kingdoms from the start with far more regions and factions. It is kinda sad that the cultists are so weak when compared to DD cultists, it feels like they had no direction to push the genre.

>>2132795
game has meta of keeping everyone on low hp just 1 hp from dying cos it doesnt matter unless you are loaded with healing items which are op so nothing feels dangerous since theres virtually no difference with cultists hitting you with nuke for 999999 damage and some shitty spider hitting you for 1damage, actually since spider leaves poison hes more dangerous cos he has chance to kill you right after
btw, cultists fights are pure slog cos they had regen out of the ass, I would rather them to have some sort of ability to res dead or call new cultists, fights with them always feel completely pre-determined when you always target backside first. its problem in general but for cultists its just atrocious.

>>2132094 (OP)
Man it's incredible how much of a visual downgrade DD2 is over the original
Sure it's more detailed and "realistic" but it lost almost all the style.
I don't want to dismiss the sequel because I think DD has horrible pacing and it's a slog to actual finish so maybe they made the gameplay better but I'm not in a rush to try it out just because it looks so soulless.

>>2132094 (OP)
I've tried to get into it a few times. it always feels very repetitive and a lot less fun than the first game. I never last more than a few hours playing it.

>>2132811
They kept complaining about how speed was bad for enemies and instead of making more elite versions of enemies, they just nerfed them. The 1hp thing is because they took the massive negatives of death`s door and heart attack. If you can get to the final boss you will win, it doesn matter if you get 10 meltdowns in a row. Also resolute healing, removing stress and giving bonus relationships is just cringe.

>>2132638
>in general its very tedious and unrewarding experience
sounds like a faithful sequel

>>2132862
nigger, I recenly played d1 after dd2 when they released kingdoms. I literally go to the courtyards in dd1 and just blow whole fucking section right to the boss cos I have good trinket and planned ahead, oneshotting most trash fights due to ability/weapon upgrades. it feels good.
dd2 is a pure shit in comparison. you can never overwhelm game cos of this roguelike shit where you dont get powerful combinations of trinkets because you cannot get them reliably, its rng if you have good tinkets or dont.

>>2132822
I too like the old art-style better.
Gives this dark comic book feel to it.
Seriously, a whole lot of games would've been far better if they all had more stylized styles instead of realistic ones.

>>2132822
>>2133053
I think it is basis by basis, colour of madness looked jarring for instance.

>>2132638
>its literally a dd game where stress doesnt matter
tbf that was also the original. Once you started meta-building teams, the game basically lost all ability for RNG to fuck you over and that's why the devs kept nuking every cheese strat we came up with

>>2133053
>Gives this dark comic book feel to it.
That's because it looks like Mike Mignola (the creator of Hellboy) drew it

>>2133666
Yeah. And it happens I like Hellboy a lot.

>>2133664
? you had to run jester or abuse virtue chance in things like endless harvest
dd2 stress is extremely opressive at the start where you need stress healer but once you get relationships it stops existing enrierly. extremely bad implementaton.

>>2134130
>Spam riposte and healing
>Dodge stacking
>gimicky bosses.

>>2133500
Original DD is top tier
Then somewhere prior to shieldbearer they changed style from thick lines to thin, swapping beta shield girl, highwayman and worst offender, halberd girl arts.

>>2138553
is it just me or in the new she looks kind of niggerish?

>>2139180
Looks like a man

>>2138553
looks like red hook got pozzed like what the fuck was wrong with the original?