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>Essential downloads:
https://sortitoutsi.net/football-manager-2024/essentials

>Guide to Football Manager:
http://www.guidetofootballmanager.com/

>Tactic and Strategy Guides:
https://community.sigames.com/topic/495115-tactic-and-strategy-guides/

>Training and Mentoring Guides:
https://community.sigames.com/topic/495114-training-and-mentoring-guides/

>Team Talks:
https://strikerless.com/2016/02/19/the-hartman-doctrine-why-the-hairdryer-treatment-works-surprisingly-well/

>Macca's official /trb/ database:
(2015) (embed) (embed)http://pastebin.com/uj27eQhe(embed)
(2016) (embed) (embed)http://pastebin.com/7e3Vv0ap(embed)

https://community.sports-interactive.com/forums/forum/19-tactics-training-strategies-discussion/

FM26 teaser
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rD__lhNVBdM

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6564634/2025/08/29/miles-jacobson-football-manager-interview-fm25-fm26/

Athletic Interview. I'll copy paste key parts from last thread:
>Football Manager 25 cancellation explained: Why? Financial impact? What about content creators? Football Manager 25 was cancelled last week — this is what it means for the company behind it, fans and content creators For Jacobson, the decision to cancel FM25 came just before Christmas. He received a build of the game and was going to spend a few days playing it before coming back from his break with notes. The 54-year-old, who has been at Sports Interactive for over 25 years, quite quickly came to the realisation that features were missing from the build. He cites the inability to find his youth squad before adding, “I literally sat there and just couldn’t find things in my own game. It was pretty embarrassing. It was within an hour that I sat there and thought: ‘We can’t release’.”

>>So, what of FM26? “It’s not what FM25 was going to be, because that was a mistake,” Jacobson says. “There is a lot of FM25 in there. There’s also some more FM24 things in there than there were going to be and there are some things that we already had down for FM26 that are now in there.” One aspect of the cancelled FM25 that has been deemed a mistake was the desire to move away from drastic changes to the game’s UI. In Football Manager’s June 2024 development update, they stated that they would be moving away from the email system that had been in the game for over a decade in favour of a ’tile and card’ system. The idea was to replicate how communication in football works in the real world, but Sports Interactive found that the change just did not work in a video game. As a result, a decision was made to redesign and improve the old messaging systems to provide a necessary sense of familiarity. “Whilst the game is a sequel, the best sequels always have nods back to their predecessors,” Jacobson adds. “We got rid of too many of them, trying to be too ambitious. It’s all well and good saying everything’s new, but we’ve been the best football management game in the market for 30 years — why would you throw all of that out? So we brought some of that familiarity back in.”
>The first of these was a result of collective human error, as multiple people forgot about a bug-fixing process that is necessary to publish a game. Jacobson says “that’s completely on us,” before adding, “The second curveball was a legal issue, but with all legal issues, you can never really say what happened. It was an email that came into Sega’s (Football Manager’s publisher) legal team that day that was definitely going to cause a delay in the release.”

https://www.eurogamer.net/the-big-football-manager-interview-series-boss-miles-jacobson-on-what-went-wrong-with-fm25-and-what-to-expect-from-fm26

Plus Eurogamer interview. Miles really felt they could the back/forward button and search bar and think the new UI would be intuitive and have 10,000 clicks

>>2133319
>"On paper, everything looked great," Jacobson says. "The core game was there." The user experience, however, was the big problem. "You couldn't find things in-game. It was clunky. Some of the screens were double-loading. The actual game itself was working - graphically, we weren't where we wanted to be. We didn't have the big leap that we wanted; it was a very good jump, but it wasn't a leap," he goes on. Part of the big, generational "leap" Jacobson is referring to here is down to the shift from the old, proprietary engine Sports Interactive has been using with Football Manager for decades to a new version of Unity, but again that just proved even more challenging than expected.

>The Premier League, for their part, were "awesome to work with," he adds. "It was getting messages of support from them, rather than anything else. And then it was, 'we have to alert you to these clauses…'" he jokes. "Everyone who had to get paid, got paid. We didn't shirk any of that stuff, and all of our relationships are intact with all of the licenses - and there will be more licenses for FM26… which we look forward to shouting very, very loudly about at some point."

Miles truly only gives a fuck about graphics and licenses like FIFA. the underlying game/match engine is probably still the same so keep using gegenpress 4231 with physical beasts while there is a lack of good fullback regens

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c70xd5wl00zo

5 paragraph BBC "article" where they get the opinion of some random negress FM streamer over literally anyone else. Specifically about women's football, with the following quote by Miles:
>"At an event, some of [England's] Lionesses came and told me that it would never be commercially viable unless people like us got behind it," he reveals.

pls forgive him. miles is trying so hard
:cry:

Adding women's football is going to be the most kino FM decision for a very long time imo. People grumble about it now due to political/culture war issues, but once it's out we'll all be winning the Women's Champions League and coming up with crazy save ideas combining both sides of the game.

>>2133466
Getting a second set of regens to manage and then getting a second area to put my regens as staff after their playing careers sound great.

>>2133466
i'll only care about it if the graphics are excellent and the models have nice arses to look at

>>2133322
Women's football is the only interesting thing they have tried to do with the game since - I don't even know. The first 3D match engine? Porting saves from year to year is cool as a technical thing I guess

I don't really see what's interesting about adding women's football. it's just the same game but now with a database filled with players I don't know. I could just play with fake names and get the same effect

>we've actually got shills here now
top kek

It really depends if women's football actually plays differently. If it's just the same match engine, what's special about it? They should also simulate periods and higher ACL risk but they won't.

>>2133466
>tfw season ending pregnancy [again]

>cancelled because even Miles realised the new UI was absolute dog shit and couldn't find anything
As expected of SI

I hope you can completely delete women’s football from the game. I’d rather manage an Indian team than a woman’s football team.
At the very least I hope they behave as separate entities a la Bolton women’s team is a separate club to Bolton wanderers

>>2134336
That's already been confirmed.

Underwhelming if true.

>>2134430
out of context is a fucking hack

>>2133313 (OP)
Uhhhhh bros?
Why did they remove all the comments and unlist their latest trailer?

>>2134499
It's been unlisted and comments have been turned off since they published it.

>>2134512
Nuh uh, I remember commenting on it

>>2134430
weird that they've been so far behind on middle eastern leagues in general, especially in the gulf you'd think there are enough FM players/research autists to justify it. It felt like a big hole in the game world even before the Saudis started throwing all that money around

Guess, still no Brazil hm?

>>2133825
Yeah it's a huge undertaking from them, I think a lot of people underestimate how hard it is to implement it. It's not just different players, they've re-done all motion capture with women, they've had to separately weight attributes, they've had to scale down the transfer system, etc. I think it's going to be a hit once it's out.


>>2134544
Yeah I agree, they've been slow with new leagues. I can't imagine the Saudis, for example, were driving a hard bargain for licensing. The lack of Asian teams and only having a single African team could be much improved with little work I feel.

>Now work from home full time
>Much more free time
>Reinstalled FM24
>Download full English pyramid database
>Create a club, create a club for my home town and put other local semi pro teams as rivals.
>Join the pyramid at level 10

Half way through my first season boys. Oh how I've missed this.

Starting out with zero players, zero staff, trying to twist peoples arms to sign contracts for £20 p/w. This is what FM is all about.

>>2135144
Get yourself the sortitoutsi facepack and a logo pack fren!

>>2135156
Am I able to do so with a current save?

>Almost finished first season
>Still undefeated
>Unlikely to get automatic promotion

Should be good to make it through the playoffs. Got a very talented 17 year old keeper who might be a nightmare to keep hold of as he's currently non-contracted and doesn't wish to sign one as we likely can't afford him yet.

>>2135169
Player in question

>>2134884
fuck off shill

>>2135169
Yep, you can add graphics at any time.

>>2134364
Sorry I’m having trouble finding out which bit of my post is confirmed- which bit are you referring to?
I’m genuinely not going to buy the game if I’m forced to engage with women’s football. This isn’t a sexism thing either. Women‘s football isn’t developed enough for me to find it interesting. The skill gap is enormous

>>2135243

You'll be able to play men's football, women's, or both, it'll just be like loading different leagues.

with deadline day finally over, I'll be able to start a new fm24 save.

hopefully the dudes at sortitoutsi keep it going one more year

>>2133466
>we'll all be winning the Women's Champions League
Speak only for yourself, Miles, thank you.

>>2133071
>>2133109
If they remove the pre-game editor it's their loss, modding has become a big part of the community and might signal the advent of some online only/paywalled components too, besides, the retro databases are too kino to not mind not being able to use them.

>>2134430
The fact that South Africa was the only CAF league is bonkers. Considering the continental comp for CAF has always been dominated by Egyptian, Tunisian and occasionally Moroccan leagues its about time they added them

Miles wont add the saudi meme league because it'll completely break the game with having such a big money league with 0 reputation. Considering that league reputation is practically hard coded because theyre incompetent, itll break the game.

>>2134884
>separately weight attributes
And yet they removed weight from a players info... curious!!!

>>2135391
Theres a db updatedd every 3 days through the FM Updates. You just have to suspend your belief around fixtures. There are also mods that add a year to age and subtracr a year from contracts but ive found that janks up a lot of youth player and duplicates them.

>>2135565
Yeah if they kill modding its DoA. Wouldnt shock me if they did now that theyve been found out properly for how the match engine works.

I probably would play the retro database mods if the calendar was set back to when they actually were
I’ll never play women’s tho

>>2135784
You'll fold.

>>2135786
I can’t see it mate, if I wanted to manage a game with lower skill levels, lower skill cap, lower stakes with less growth and a lower global impact than men’s football I’d play rugby manager.
I understand women’s football has grown and in some circles now it’s quite popular but I’d rather that database player count was spent for some random African leagues, random South American leagues or even completing the European leagues. I imagine the game engine might be different and maybe have more interesting games too, but then again that would also be the case if you could manage u13s football too.

>>2135827
Sounds like all my saves desu. Anyone who plays football manager and picks a top flight team is an absolute scrub.

>>2135930
That’s the thing though init lad. You can’t take a Belarusian 2nd division women’s team to the champions league because a Belarusian 2nd divisions women’s team doesn’t exist
Their academies consist of PE lessons in school

Absolute scenes and limbs in the North West Counties Prem Division.

>>2133825
>>2134884
you could not pay me to add female players to any database I will ever run. Waste of my processor

>>2136015
Once you witness the absolute KINO of women's football saves in /trb/ you'll fold too. All will fold.

>>2136007
>6.6 and 7.0 conceding 3 goals
wew

anybody made their youth teams a powerhouse? i assume it's possible

>>2136015
I was thinking about this yesterday because I’ve been posting about this in the thread previously and I think that they have to have women in the database even if you don’t load them as playable leagues. Reason being is that the staff have to be interchangeable amongst womens and mens football and there are already women in the staff database so I don’t think they can separate the two. Hopefully the leagues can be deleted in the game files

>>2136470
If they don't remove the pre-game editor in this edition, someone will make a file deleting every female player. And then they will remove the pre-game editor for the next edition.

>>2136470
I assume it'll just be like not loading a league in current fm. it'll just be greyed out players and no simulated results

>>2136534
this is why i don't understand the outrage, i don't ever get mad that the french leagues are in the game, i simply don't ever load them

>>2136545
I’m not sexist, i think it’s good that they’ve done it, I just hope that you can separate the worlds. If the options are when starting a new save: Men’s football, women’s football or both I will be completely happy. I don’t think this will be the case though because of how the staff database is.
Even if you don’t load a league, results are simulated and it’s going to slow my game down for some shit I couldn’t care less about.
Fyi I play with all leagues loaded so it is a concern for me

>>2135640
yeah I've tried that add a year editor file and it is just borked. I understand where they're coming from, but I have to start a new save without those files.

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1zFaDzMEQA/

Damn that's crazy

>>2136968
BOYS WE HAVE ENTERED 2008 LET'S GOOOOOOO

https://youtu.be/_cDQi5kwuHQ

Graphics have entered late ps2 era. But you can still see it's a lot of the same animations from the old engine ported over. Which is exactly what they wanted to do in the first place

Steam page up. PC requirements. Needing a 2060 for recommended is interesting after what we saw.

>>2137013
grim grim grim

>>2137013
>Graphics have entered late ps2 era. But
No need for "but", the fact they focus on graphics and put them front and center so far is a very bad sign

One of the screenshots from the steam page

Don't worry, I'm sure the animations will be improved next year!

>>2137013
Actually looking great, especially those intricate passing movements. Well done, Miles! can't wait for Women's League preview!!

>>2137013
The moment the release date is official i am putting a week off notice from work

Looks fucking amazing, can't wait to see what else they have for us. FM26 is going to be so fucking good.

>>2137013
The players and crowd are a massive improvement, but overall it's still got all the same janky movement of FM24, utter waste of time

Will you be starting a fresh save or will you be continuing your save from FM24?

>>2137019
>1920x1080
>has the blurriness of upscaled 1280x720
what the fuck are these tards doing over there?
the gay video they released a couple weeks ago also looked low res and blurry as all fuck

>>2137051
Definitely fresh. I have stopped updating fm24 a while ago so it doesn’t ruin the fun for me

more interested in stadium variety rather than how the players look on the pitch desu fämälämä

>>2137026
>>2137040
No browsing 4chan during work, Miles.

shit looks worse than fucking fifa manager 2010
If I was in charge at EA I'd shit out a reskin of fifa manager 2014 just to fuck with SI
the switch versions of fifa use the same engine as the fifa manager 14 so they already have the assets for kits, player faces etc

>>2137051

My beta save will be a women's football team, I'll leave my FM24 save behind.

>>2137070
I barely paid attention to this aside from reading the cancellation a while ago, I thought they had binned miles?

>>2137084
>team of your sons via the players
KINO challenge

>>2137085
No he's still in charge. But he definitely put his job at risk by not having FM25 ready and then outright canceling. It would take multiple successive flops for him to get pushed out by sega.

>>2137049
as much of a sloppy shop as other parts of the series are, especially on the presentation side, it is obviously a ridiculous challenge to build a "match engine" that is supposed to do everything you can see in a football match. Skips and hangups with player positioning and ball positioning seem inevitable to me

>>2137066
this, especially at the lower levels, ridiculous how soulless and samey everything looks

Where would you play him?

>>2137345
Playing him as DLF(a) and he scores a hattrick.
Just taken over as Lazio manager after promoting Perugia from Serie C/B to A in 4 seasons, squad is pretty miserable but this guy seems a gem.

>>2137345
Personally, I would probably try to train him as a AMC and then make use of him as shadow striker or enganche. DLF, as you're using him, is another decent option. He's too slow and weak to be your front line striker or to be used on the wing, but his technicals are too good to be used as a cm, IMO

>>2137345
>that name

>>2137051
>he thinks you'll be able to continue your save
Its a new engine buddy. You WILL play Wrexham women and you WILL enjoy it

>>2137597
The backwards compatible saves was one of their main selling points for FM25.

>>2137345
>9 dribbling
>15 flair
I wonder how it looks like in action

>>2137345
RIGHT WING

>>2137345
i love when people crop out important info and then ask durrrr where would you play hurrrrr

>>2137345
Nowhere, too slow.

>>2137706
AP/DLF don't need speed

>>2137621
antony

>>2134430
>Egypt
about time, let's hope the rest of the nafri leagues come soon
>Lithuania
w/e but it could be cool
>UAE
weird gulf league to start with, probably should chuck saudi/qatar/iran in as well to add more variety to west asia because india's the only league you can play out of there right now

>everyone now realising that a change of game engine is not a change of match engine
oh n-

>>2137816
It's interesting how their Middle East neighbours like Qatar and Saudis were always on the prowl for elderly world star players, from Guardiola and Batistuta to Cristiano Ronaldo, but I think the most starry UAE Pro League ever got was with Vucinic and Asamoah Gyan.

I'm in 2031 and there's 1 singular regen in the top 50 players in the world. It's insane how reputation works in this game.

>>2137920
Either they just didn't care or they were playing the long game with mercenaries (see their national team for a laugh)

>>2137923
>see their national team for a laugh
Yeah, that is funny. Although I remember that Qatar tried to do literally the same like 20 years ago, inviting a couple of good Brazilian players from Bundesliga with next to zero chances to ever play for Brazil national team: IIRC, they were talking about Ailton (back when he almost single-handedly led Werder to winning a salad bowl), Dede from Borussia Dortmund (who had no chance while Roberto Carlos was around, even though he was a better defender) and someone else; but instead they got slapped on the wrist and FIFA actually tightened the eligibility rules. I wonder how UAE did managed to succeed?

>18 appearances and 9 goals
>2 games later it's 20 appearances and 15 goals
Mauricio has been UNLOCKED

>Mauricio scored 2 goals in his next game
So close to a hat trick of hat tricks.

>>2137977
>>2137963
post him

>that development in the past 12 months

>>2137982
I play attributeless, so you'll only see his per90 stats in a pizza/bar graph lol

I could see about switching my skin back just to see how his attributes look for you if you want.

>>2137982
>>2137989
fucking hell he's better than I realised. i just bought him cuz he's 6'6" and had good underlying stats for gremio

this is the sort of shit people savescum because of

>halfway through the season
>signed a new contract a few weeks ago
>currently qualifying for the play-offs in the champions league
>2 points behind PSG and literally about to play them today
>Liverpool manager just got sacked
should I apply?

>>2138043
I dont think I can leave these boys mid-season. Not when they're working so hard for me.

>>2137995
pog, is he a player irl
>>2138023
i'm almost done with my season, the injury page will be a sight to behold.

>>2138066
>is he a player irl
nigga, look at his face

>>2138067
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maur%C3%ADcio_(footballer,_born_2001)
APOLOGIZE almost

>>2138087
>AM or RM
might wanna have a look at the lad again there m80

>>2138087
Use your eyes retard

do these games still massively overrate physicals?

>>2138168
Pace is still OP, yes.

look at this dood

>>2137815
>antony
>9 dribbling
https://youtu.be/LrScvH6Gqmo?si=Ng5iUN2wrAUjWq_f
[skip to:@45 seconds]

>>2138470
>knocks ball past opponent
Well known to aid players with shit dribbling.

i've started doing the boehly approach of just buying every player that even shows a HINT of potential as a teenager. buy them for less than £2m with hopes to profit at least double digits later.

It’s over

>>2138592
Utterly worthless

>>2138592
100% they did plan to overhaul the match engine from the beginning, but then they found out what a mess it is and that they won't be able to make a new one, so they cancelled FM25 and decided to focus only on the graphics engine. 1 year down the drain, and we get nothing but a cosmetic change to the game yet again.
The dreadful match engine trudges on.

The match engine is both incredibly impressive and painfully inadequate at the same time.

>>2138594
>1 year down the drain
They've been working on the shift over to Unity since 2020 (TWO THOUSAND AND TWENTY ANNO DOMINI)

did they ever explain why the player is consistently the team who gets hit with the "THAT'S HIS FIRST GOAL IN A BILLION YEARS" type of moments? because it's not normal.

>>2138625
SI try to engineer 'fun stories to tell your friends'

>starting goalkeeper just got recalled for "being played out of position"
He was playing Sweeper instead of normal Goalkeeper. I fucking HATE the way SI has coded this game.

>>2138603
So they are just incompetent?
I'm glad I never gave any euro to these crooks, I pirated every FM I ever played but I stopped after finding out player choice dont matter

>top of the league by GD in January
>Man City are now trying to buy Mauricio on deadline day
I promised him he could leave if they offer £80m and they're already up to £61m.

>board won't give me an extra £1m in order to sign our former-starting gk who got recalled from his loan and left us with only a 1 star keeper to try to finish out the season with
The boards in this game are absolute mental.

>>2138676
Business idea: sell Mauricio and buy that keeper with the money

>>2138680
>sell your star striker for £60m to raise £2m to buy a goalkeeper
alri ed woodward la. my current options right now are to try to sell off youth players quickly or sell one of my starting CBs. we have more cover in that area at least, but the squad is hyper-thin as it is.

>>2138682
You'd have a bit to reinvest into a new striker too surely
Maybe I'm too used to flipping regens for profit, I rarely turn down big money

>>2138689
There's 6 hours left of deadline day. I'd have no time to identify a proper replacement. Plus we're up against PSG. If I'm to have any chance of dethroning them, I need all the firepower I can get. I do like the idea of flipping him for profit (he cost us £13.5m), but I also know that if I can keep him til June, he'll sell for more than £61m, plus we might get into UCL knockouts, plus we might win the French Cup and Ligue 1.

Ended up selling that CB for a cool £26m rising to £30m, with a 35% of next sale's profit clause in there. Which was a nice 16-20m profit 2 years after buying him. Gave up 6m for the piggybank, which let us fund that goalkeeper move. Squad is now a measly 17 players so I might need to promote some youth players to the big leagues and see how they handle it.

>>2138726
>20% of transfer revenue to spend
Grim
Hope you get CL lad

>>2138730
I don't think we'll be winning the UCL, that's for sure. Squad's too thin and not high enough quality to compete with the big dogs, but we'll 100% qualify for next year's. The club's still trying to recover from the fucking insane wage structure it had when I came in. Had to sell most of the aging starting squad who were all on like 200k a week. Now the average is about 60k a week. Club went from £154m in debt, to about £4m in debt over the course of 2 years. So now the last little trick is to try to get us into the green permanently. Which I admittedly have no idea how to do, given we're already running a razor thin team and getting into the UCL etc.

>>2138564
BASED hoarder

>gravenberch is on course for best foreign player award in the league
>gets injured for 6 weeks
>have to play £10m Tino, a player who is fresh back from a season on loan in the Swiss Super League for the team that finished 10th, and who doesnt even get time off the bench really
>comes in and just starts shitting out 10/10 performances
>gravenberch is now the benchwarmer
You'd be fucking fuming if you were Gravenberch.

Also, some good news lads. PSG dropped points. They drew against against FC Sochaux-Montbéliard and now we're 2 points clear at the top of the table.

>scored in the 121st minute to pull a draw out of our arse against Salzburg
>bottled the penalties
I am fucking heartbroken. Cunt who missed the deciding penalty is the one who's been itching to get out of the club all fucking year. Hope he gets fucking murdered.

>>2138874
why's he taking it

>>2138891
Razor-thin squad and Mauricio having a massive fucking 6 game slump of no goals meant he was on for Mauricio at about the 70th minute point. He scored the 121st minute equaliser. Put him on the 5th penalty because he's the second best pen taker and he just went and choked it. The schedule is really catching up to the players now. I dont think we've trained in about 3 months now. Match, rest 2 days, match, rest 2 days, match. The scheduling in FM is absolutely FUCKED.

>>2137995

Guy is a total baller, unreal that he's not playing upfront for Brazil, would be interested to see whose playing ahead of him.

>>2138592

People are totally overreacting to this, they make changes to the match engine each year but they aren't going to re-build it from the ground up. The tactical overhaul this year means the match engine is going to be noticeably different than the previous game considering the huge role changes.

>>2138899
>would be interested to see whose playing ahead of him.
Vitor Roque, apparently. Also there must be a fucking glitch with the transfer value tag or something, because 30 year old Gabriel Martinelli who plays RW for Brazil, has a transfer value of £237m-£258m.

Also, just as a note, some of these players look a little better than they are because some of their attributes are bright green that shouldn't be. That's because the last time I used attributes I was in the South African 2nd division, so I reduced the "excellent" quality down to like 12 or 13 attribute points to reflect the league and obviously never fixed it in the 8 seasons since, because I moved to attributeless.

>>2138899
>People are totally overreacting to this
People aren't reacting to just "there aren't major changes to the match engine this year," they're reacting to "we've slimmed down on changes to the entire game for the last five years and canceled an entire release because of the amount of work that went into changing the game engine so that we could improve this shit. In fm26, though, its the same shit as 24 with ps2 graphics instead of nes graphics, come back next year for the changes we've been promising for a decade. p.s. dynamic youth ratings still don't exist and it would be convenient if you forgot we said they would"

>>2138912
They'll still buy it and play 1000 hours. It'll peter out once the beta is released, people are just frustrated that they haven't had a new FM for a while.

>>2138917
Yeah, there are some morons who will, but I can't imagine the average person doesn't go "this is a brand new engine that's being sold on the promise of new graphics and nothing else — it's probably going to have a bunch of new bugs from the unproven engine and no new content for me to take advantage of (unless you're a real womens game stallwart), so I'll just wait another year"

>>2138918
But there's not "nothing else", they've only released a very short trailer and the matchday experience video so far.

>>2138592
hot take: the current match engine system is good enough
if 1 chinaman can tweak some numbers in 1 file and change how the game looks and is played then si probably hopefully can do even better
they should just focus on adding more features like being able to punch your players when theyre being annoying or random events like points deductions because one of your fans threw a banana at a french player

>>2138899
Match engine has been garbage for at least a decade.
>>2138917
Didn't buy since 2017. What carries them is their unpararelled database and research network

>>2139066
>in 1 file and change how the game looks and is played then si probably hopefully can do even better
haha

>>2139066
The current match engine is pretty good, and we're going to get two years worth of updates to it along with the new animations so I think it's going to be very fucking nice in the next game.

I don't care about defensive football, pressing is dominant in football today and the game should adapt to it.
What I can't stand is you can't play passing football the way you could in FM15, that's why I still play it despite its lack of coherent pressing and its hilariously unrealistic chance frequency/chance conversion
In recent games no matter how short you play your penetration will still rely on a ball over the top to a runner from deep or a cross for a tap-in

>>2139222
What kind of passing goals are you imagining that don't involve a through ball or a cross?

>>2139222
sometimes balls over the top can be kino (this is from fm15, tbf)

>>2139240
look at him go!

>>2139240
>>2139222
Does this count as a ball over the top?

it's not even at all related to what you're saying, you just made me go back and look at my ten year old webms

>>2139240
>>2139243
>karius

>the 11th best wonderkid in the world plays for fucking LARNE
how in God's name?

>32nd best young player in the world has a £1.6m release clause
>our transfer budget is £1.54m
>the board considers this target "unrealistic" and won't up the budget to get him
We're even underspending the wage budget by 200k and they won't just shuffle those numbers across. Evil evil jewish bastards.

>>2139249
>reload like 9 times trying every possible combination of answers to try to get them to accept the request
>finally give up and continue
>the next day the club evaluate my performance, give me an A and up my transfer budget to £8m
absolute fucking trolls.

>>2139249
Would be good if we could kick in 60 grand of our own money in situations like that.
Might make me care about my salary.

>>2139236
Passes on the ground. What you posted is combinations that carve through an open opponent, I want to circulate the ball in the final third against a settled defence *then* to open them up with combinations.
>>2139240
>SK-A
Great role. This is still not the common form of penetration in FM15

>>2139290
Can you think of a goal in real life that fits what you want from the game? I'm assuming something from Man City, but City fucking love a ball flashed across the 6 yard box.

>>2139290
>This is still not the common form of penetration in FM15
Definitely wasn't, but I didn't make webms of the regular goals we scored. Almost all of mine seem to come from a cross, though, tbf, I had two amazing wingbacks when I was making webms
Anyway, here's an overhead backheel goal

>>2139296
City play a crossing game through the flanks, although prime 17-18 City played lots of cutbacks too which are good
This is a decent example. Newcastle are with 10 men here but the key detail is the move starts with all their players behind the ball in their own half
https://youtu.be/EbRtHkEPz8c?t=88

>>2139305
1:28 timestamp

>>2139305
>>2139307
this is literally a cross for a sitter? you specifically said that isn't what you wanted.

>>2139312
On the ground is the key.
Do you notice in this webm that again the defence is not pinned back? I want to play a passing game against a pinned/bus-parking opponent

>>2139312
I'm not him — look at your webm again. the opposition defensive line is pressed up high nearly to midfield and then have to scramble wildly to try and recover as the ball races down the wing for a cross
in the video, newcastle is settled back deep in their own half, there is no scramble for position at the back as liverpool break through with passes rather than sprinting down the touchline after a loose ball
and calling salah's pass a cross seems incredibly disingenuous

im doing an italian players and staff only save, is there any way to stop these tards from showing me foreign players in the recs?

What's the verdict on this site?

>>2139316
>>2139317
Right but that sounds like you're not asking for a particular match engine quirk, it sounds like you're looking for a particular match-up. Man City isn't going to park the bus against Macclesfield or whatever. Worth pointing out that the Liverpool goal that was used as an example is also an example of an overly aggressive press from Newcastle.

>>2139432
>it sounds like you're looking for a particular match-up
I'm looking for it to occur in the match engine when it makes sense. Not at all times, and not for it to be the only applicable game plan, just for it to be possible. Until then I'll keep playing FM15

What the FUCK Mauricio?

>>2139479
>AM actually passes directly forwards to striker
teach me
mine just passes out wide every time

>beat PSG 2-0 in the French Cup semi-final
We've got these lads absolutely on fucking TOAST this season.

>>2139526
The system is a 3-4-2-1, so our wide options are normally behind the play unless we slow the tempo down. I do also have that particular AM on more direct passes and take more risks, which might factor in too.

If PSG drop points in today's match. We've won Ligue 1 with games to spare. So naturally, I have to go attend the match.

And Olympique Lyonnais lead at the half! PSG are 1-0 down courtesy of a deftly dispatched left-footed strike from Rayan Cherki right before the break. PSG with all of the ball and none of the goals. 70% possession and nothing to show for it, with Lyon pinning them back with swift counters that have them second-guessing their every attack.

PSG could be dethroned in just over 45 minutes time.

FORGET THE REPUBLIC. THERE'S A NEW KING OF FRANCE!

After an absolutely unrelenting campaign from the most popular club in France, the old king of France has finally fallen. Many will point to the game against PSG in which they were defeated 2-0 in December by would-be champions Marseille as the moment that the title began its exchanging of hands, but in truth, it looked like it that trophy was only ever going to end up in one cabinet much earlier than that.

This was a club that had been cut to the bone in an attempt to pull itself out of the mires of debt, but whose remaining players realised that it truly was them against the world. And the world wasn't going to win. Between the lethal left boot of the mercurial Mauricio thundering home a record 34 goals in 45 appearances, the ever-present creativity of the Almighty Almada providing 39 goal contributes in 46 appearances, and the sheer brick wall of a defence that rivalled that of even the Château de Carcassonne, this was a team that refused to be beaten. A team that hasn't lost a game since AUGUST of this season. A team that lost 2 games in its opening 4 and said NEVER AGAIN. A team that has earned this victory every step of the way.

OLYMPIQUE DE MARSEILLE ARE YOUR CHAMPIONS OF FRANCE

>>2139624
Pictured is the true King of France.

sheeeeeeeeeeesh
southampton 106
boro 104
leeds 91
ipswich 91
sunderland 88 [me]
norwich 83

crazy high points

>>2139066
i just wanna see how newgens will look this time

>yfw they look even worse than before

>>2139624
Did that with Guingamp a while ago, feels very good to knock them off the top.
Let's have a look at Mauricio.

>>2139900
He's already been posted: >>2137995

>>2139795
>norwich dominates leeds 7-0 in the first leg
WEWHEE what an upset

Here's my current timeline prediction: this week women's football reveal, next week final trailer + pre-orders open with maybe another feature reveal or devblog.

>>2140160
I still can't believe they committed to women's football at the same time as changing engines. Absolute insanity that has no doubt severely hampered the experience for everyone.

>>2140087
>>2139795
boys we fucking won the playoff let's go
despite all the fucking injuries
despite players leaving
injuries this season:
9 major
28 moderate
58 total

>>2140180
playoff champions with very defensive
25-13-8 +34gd

>>2140180
>>2140185
I have no idea why I assumed you were like 40 years in the future and those teams were all in the Prem fighting for the title until just now lol

Love seeing wingbacks in a back 4.

>>2140232
yeah lol this team finished 16th irl, obv got promoted this season.
irl they signed joe gelhardt to cover ross stewart's injury which didn't work because he's better as a wing/second striker.
i got george hirst and he fucking CRUSHED it.
league stats
32 starts 5 subs
19 goals 4 assists
7.09 rating

jenson seelt also did really well, i rotated my CBs a lot
19 starts 7.00 rating
paired with
nectar triantis
13 starts 6.99 rating

chris rigg and jobe bellingham played like they did this year and both pulled multiple awards despite being 16/17
crazy stuff

I sent the FM26 graphics reveal to my EAFC-addicted normie zoomer colleague and he said it looks better than before but still pretty bad and that he still wouldn't play it.

>>2140241
>7 rating as a poacher
I have never seen a poacher perform well at all. Fair play for managing it.

>>2140243
It's at about FIFA 14 level of graphics. It's absolutely insane how behind the times SI are.

>>2140246
>It's at about FIFA 14 level of graphics. It's absolutely insane how behind the times SI are.
No, what's insane is that they even bother with the graphics.

>want to finally move on to the Premier League
>no jobs available there
Looks like it might be another season in France.

>>2140305
Why? Graphics will bring new players into the game. People who've been playing for decades will continue playing. People who never gave it a second look because of its 1993 graphics will give it a chance and get hooked. Making the game prettier can only be good for the game.

>>2140309
>Graphics will bring new players into the game
People for whom graphics would be an actual selling point both won't be swayed by the moderate improvement and won't come back for a second edition once they try actually playing the game. It's insane that they've spent five years on something for people who don't actually exist.

>>2140319
But they do exist. It's just that the quality of SI's work was shit. If FM26 released with EAFC25 graphics, it would sell at least one million more copies than it normally does. That's just a fact.

>>2140320
For one edition. And that edition would be review bombed by normies who didn't get to play the ea fc clone they wanted and instead got spreadsheet football for nerds with an occasional match to watch.

>>2140331
but you know yourself that FM is addictive as fuck. a sizeable percentage of those 1m extra sales will become permanent customers.

>>2140309
Every bit of time and effort spent on graphics is less time and effort on things that actually matter.

>>2140354
No it's not. The guys working on graphics are not the guys working on the simming part.

>>2140332
No, I really doubt a sizeable percentage of people who couldn't stomach the NES graphics will now get addicted to the PS2 graphics version of FM.

>>2140359
C'mon, mate, you're not actually that naive, are you? Yeah, cool, the graphics designer wouldn't be doing feature-specific engine work if they weren't working on the graphics, but if the management didn't focus on graphics for some retarded, stakeholder-driven, misguided notion that it's going to bring in new players, they could have hired more engineers instead of more artists and animators. Like say, enough engineers to get international management, something that's been in the game for decades, working. Or perhaps the impactful dynamic youth ratings that we were promised several years ago that has been quietly shoved out the back door. Or perhaps a meaningful overhaul of the press conferences that people who actually play the game have been calling useless and irritating for years.

>>2140396
>they could have
No, they couldn't have. Because the money that went towards hiring devs for the graphics work wouldn't have been made available for the people working on the simming part. Have you ever been part of any kind of IT-related project management? There is one universal truth, and that's that you'll underfunded and overworked with not enough time to deliver. They would never allocate funds to increase the team size of those doing the simming part.

>No, I really doubt a sizeable percentage of people who couldn't stomach the NES graphics will now get addicted to the PS2 graphics version of FM.
I'm not being rude mate, but can you read? I feel like I've made it abundantly clear that SI being shit at upgrading the graphics doesn't mean that the concept of upgrading the graphics is bad. If you're dying of thirst, it's not a bad idea to drink water just because the one time you had the chance to, I gave you stagnant pond water full of diarrhea-causing bacteria.

if a club has an interim manager, does it stop them from being shown as having a managerial vacancy, even though the full-time job is vacant?

>Loaned in a CB that made 42 appearances and scored 12 goals for the low low price of £2.8m loan fee
>board says it was a dogshit signing and rates it an E
alright lads, fucking hell

>>2140246
>It's at about FIFA 14 level of graphics
I dont know man, if looks far worse than fifa 11 in terms of textures, the models are ps1 tier but the lighting seems pretty modern
all in all, a fucking mess, you'd expect this from a 4 man indy team fucking around in unity

>>2140656
I think the textures are better than FIFA 11, but you're not wrong about the rest. You need to understand that Miles gave a TWO WEEK estimate in converting their entire TWENTY YEAR codebase from C++ to C#, that's the level of technical retardation we're dealing with. Miles is frankly not up for the job. He doesn't have any of the project management capabilities to actually guide FM into the modern age.

>>2140401
>They would never allocate funds to increase the team size of those doing the simming part.

>we're not allowed to criticize the decision-making process that led to them deciding on a path that they were very predictably never going to be able to do competently, even though even doing it competently would mean they were doing things for people who weren't their actual audience, taking resources away from their actual audience, because other projects are also mismanaged

Mate, what? This isn't the equivalent of dying of thirst and not upgrading your water infrastructure. This is the equivalent of dying of thirst and installing a pool in the backyard because it looks better to the neighbors than having a plumber's van parked outside your house to fix your broken pipes that would give you drinking water. They're trying to sell the product to people who don't care, and spent five years working on something the people who already live here don't care about either, scrapping things we did have in the process.

>>2140792
If you can't understand an analogy, then don't attempt one. I'll try to make this unmistakably clear for you.

THE IDEA THAT IMPROVING GRAPHICS WOULD IMPROVE THE GAME AND INCREASE SALES IS A GOOD IDEA. IT WOULD DO BOTH THOSE THINGS.

THE EXECUTION OF THAT GRAPHICAL IMPROVEMENT WAS BAD. THE BAD EXECUTION WILL NOT IMPROVE THE GAME AND INCREASE SALES THE WAY IT SHOULD HAVE.

THE IDEA IS NOT BAD BECAUSE THE EXECUTION WAS BAD.

>>2140795
The idea was bad because they were incapable of ever executing it. They tried to make a bridge across the channel with a dozen 2x4s and a nail gun. It doesn't matter that, yeah, a bridge across the channel would be cool. They were never going to be able to do it well enough for it to matter. The bar for people who are only interested in graphics is so far beyond what SI is capable of that it inherently makes trying to chase that whale a terrible decision. Going "well it would have been a good decision if they did it well" doesn't apply when it was impossible for them to do it well.

>>2140801
>they were incapable of ever executing it.
Arguable. Miles being in charge means this is probably true, but again, conceptually the idea is fine. If you're a SEGA shareholder and Miles comes to you and says that the budget will be higher this year because he wants to improve the graphics to try to leech off some of EAFCs playerbase and increase sales, then you would say yes. You wouldnt push up your glasses, snort and hit him with a "ummm actually your team are probably too poo to do that, so ummm just release the same game again"

>wimpiest sound possible for the ball being hit
these people are paid to make shit like this btw

If FM only had a 2D match engine but the simulation and AI were incredible, it would be a better game than incredible graphics and animations but a flawed and inferior simulation and AI.

>>2140945
and would sell a tenth of what it does now

Good image of the FM26 cover from the Tokyo Games Show.

>>2140956
why did they opt for purple as their brand identity? it's such a weird choice.

>>2140955
Who the fuck cares? The game proved to have rock-solid demand forever now. It's your interest to put profit above quality only if you're a Sega suit, not an FM player

>>2140986
>Who the fuck cares?
Sega, the people funding the game's continued existence. If FM26 was the game you talked about, the 2D exclusive one, there would be no FM27.

>>2140991
Throughout the 2010's the game player base grew year in year out with basic crappy 3D graphics. There was no need to take another step, the game was in perfectly good health business wise. Focus on the AI and match engine.

>>2140995
>Throughout the 2010's the game player base grew year in year out with basic crappy 3D graphics
With what? Say that again.

>>2140956
uhhhh... why does it look like the old covers?
dont tell me they paid for the new fancy logo design and made that vibrant trailer for fm25 to reach the modern audience and decided not to use them

Since it looks like I'll be stuck at Marseille for another year, what's the best way to scout for young talent that can hold its own? The Saudis are swarming my over 30s and the Prem is swarming Mauricio and it's looking like I'll have about 6 players to start the season with.

RETVRN

>>2140996
bodied him

>>2140996
>>2141075
Basic crappy 3D graphics. I'm not the anon you originally replied to so idk what you expected. The point is match engine and AI should be the top priority in their development, so them displaying the graphics upfront and center in their reveals so far is a very bad sign for the game, even if it's good for the Sega profits

>>2141078
Again, making money for Sega is the ONLY way the game continues being made. If they go all out and make the ultimate sim with only 2D graphics, it will be the last ever FM game. All the technological leaps we make in the future, all the new football tactics and roles and positions and changes to rules and all of that good stuff will be something you never get to experience, because FM would be frozen in 2026 forever.

>>2141079
>Again, making money for Sega is the ONLY way the game continues being made.
I don't agree. It is the only way the game keeps getting published by sega, but that isn't the same thing.

>>2141083
You don't need to agree with facts for them to remain facts. SI would die without Sega's money.

>>2141084
If SI is only alive through sega subsidies, why would sega be interested in keeping them alive at all?

>>2141087
I don't understand how this is confusing to you. If I give you $1m and you use that to make a game that makes $10m then that's good for both of us. If you're making the game on your own and your budget is reduced to $100k, then you're not making shit when it releases because the quality is going to be that much worse. You DO understand what publishing is, right?

>>2141084
Is that based on your analysis of SI's finances or just an opinion?

>>2141093
You don't stay in a publishing deal unless you need the publishing deal.

>>2141091
I think you're making an incredible number of assumptions with no real information and calling them facts. The notion that there is no possible way for SI/FM to survive without sega in any possible way, shape, or form seems insane to me.

>>2141079
And as I said, the game was in good shape. No need to greed for more casual player when your hard-core playerbase has solid demand

>>2141101
Fair. I suppose saying "die" is an overstatement on my behalf. I meant it more in the sense of SI and FM as you currently know it, would die. The scaling back that would happen without Sega's backing would be extreme, especially after failing to release FM25 on time and admitting that they effectively wasted 5 years trying to make this game and admitting their project lead thinks a codebase conversion would take two weeks. It all adds up to a bad time.

>>2141106
>No need to greed for more casual player
Money. If you keep making the same game every single year with minimal changes, causing the playerbase to stagnate, then you lose money. Because licensing prices will increase, rent prices will increase, any business expenses you make will not be covered by increased sales etc etc.

>wonderkid wont join unless he specifically gets to play as a winger
this is annoying. I hate being tactically limited due to retarded shit like that.

>>2141137
buy him anyway and then don't do it
you did set your level of discipline to 20 when making your manager, right?
winning solves anything, anyway

>>2141140
>you did set your level of discipline to 20 when making your manager, right?
of course not.

I'll probably have to just bite the bullet anyway for financial reasons. We're getting him for £5m, so we'll be able to turn a profit on him easily. Still think it's a dumb thing to put in the game.

at that point in the transfer window where 90% of your players are wanted for high prices so you know you'll have to sell them but the offers havent come in yet so you cant actually buy any replacement players and you just have to wait and watch all your targets get snapped up by other teams for cheap.

>>2141108
>Money. If you keep making the same game every single year with minimal changes, causing the playerbase to stagnate, then you lose money. Because licensing prices will increase, rent prices will increase, any business expenses you make will not be covered by increased sales etc etc.
This is seriously such a reach to try to convince me to approve of everything that's happened with the switch to unity + the FM25 cancellation + sole focus on graphics so far in FM26 reveals.
No, it's been extremely disappointing and the reveals are a bad sign.

>>2141187
I think you've got a case of the retardeds. At no point in any of this have I been attempting to convince you to approve of everything that's happened with the switch to Unity, the cancellation and the focus on graphics. I have explicitly, multiple times, stated that the execution has been poor and that they've tremendously fucked up. The IDEA is sound. The EXECUTION is not. If they had done a good job and the game looked graphically good, with a good UI and a good match engine, then you wouldn't be saying we need to go back to 2D. If you cannot understand what I'm telling you, then you're beyond hope. It isn't particularly complicated stuff.

>>2141194
>The IDEA is sound.
I'm not him — and it seems like there are at least two other people disagreeing with you about this — and we still disagree on this. The idea is chasing after a hypothetical consumer who doesn't actually exist, and who, at best, will purchase the game a single time, play it for two hours, has a good chance of refunding it because it isn't fifa, and will never become a repeat customer; all explicitly at the expense of work that could have been done for the already existing customer base.

>>2141204
>The idea is chasing after a hypothetical consumer who doesn't actually exist
If this was true then FM wouldn't be steadily growing as they increase the graphical fidelity and casualisation of the game. But FM has been growing. It's certainly not been growing because the match engine is better, has it? FM24 is the best selling FM of all time, comfortably so. And again, that's not because of the match engine being improved (because it wasn't improved between 23 and 24). Like, this is just the most absolute basic fucking shit and I don't understand how you aren't understanding it. The evidence is plain as fucking day staring you in the face.

>>2141205
>as they increase the graphical fidelity
Has it actually changed at all? Can you tell which of these webms is from which edition of the game?
>>2139312
>>2139303

>>2141211
The animations are notably improved in the FM24 webm (the top one). You can say that you would PREFER them to focus all in on the sim side of the game and perfectly the match engine and fixing the youth ratings and international football and all that shit they desperately need to fix, and that's fine. But the game does need to be improved graphically in order to sell more copies and the game did need to be moved to Unity to make it easier to get new hires in working on it.

They did a dogshit job of it because Miles is a clueless fool with no idea how to handle an operation of that size, but that doesn't mean it wasn't the correct thing to do.

>>2141205
This should be the biggest sign in your face that the game growing isn't a good thing for you. It's been growing steadily for like 15 years now. Why should I be satisfied with that? It's still been shit

>>2141241
Not really relevant to the discussion, but I appreciate your opinion on that unrelated matter I suppose.

>>2141194
>the idea is sound
The optimal route would be to keep the graphics as they are and focus entirely on AI and match engine. The game would have kept growing steadily, *and* would have actually improved. Instead we find ourselves with cosmetic changes only

>>2141246
No the optimal route would to not be a massive retard who thinks it would take two weeks to convert an entire 20 year old codebase into a new language. It's really that simple. Miles fucked it beyond belief. That's the long and short of this discussion. If Miles had been replaced in 2019 by an actually technically competent project lead, then not only would FM25 have been releasd on time, but it would both look AND play better than FM26 is about to. Miles' retardation in managing the project is why it's shit, it's got nothing to do with the initial idea of "let's move to unity and make the game look and feel better". Which again, was a good idea.

>>2141218
>The animations are notably improved in the FM24 webm (the top one).
I don't agree that they're improved enough to be the sole driving force behind new versions selling more. I think that if you showed a handful of snippets of fm15-24 match days to the random fifa player they're now trying to cater to, they simply wouldn't be able to tell the difference.

>>2141251
I think your opinions are clouded by thinking that graphics and gameplay are a zero sum game.

>join a ligue 1 team and 33x my wage? no thanks mate, you see, i just signed a new contract here at club atletico rosario central so that means i dont want to advance my career at all
class mate

>>2141261
He'll play for Monaco for peanuts come January, you just know

We should be getting more info about women's football either today or tomorrow, hoping we get another video and maybe a dev blog as well.

>>2141002
Quite like searching for u18s who have senior caps
Get a good mix of meme country wonderkids that way

>>2141636
This, every international tournament I go through every senior team and scout anyone under 20, chances are at least a couple of them will end up in NXGN

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6w_eTiMSX8M

New UI looks pretty good imo.

>>2141685
I actually agree, this is a lot better than what they showed for 25 which was awful. Still not fully convinced by the cards and hope skins are still an option, I've got an ultrawide so I actually prefer sidebars for example, but this is better than I expected

https://store.steampowered.com/app/3551340/Football_Manager_26/

4th November!

>>2141685
It really does just look like the same old screens rearranged.

>>2141685
Few things are scarier to UI designers than a rectangle

MODERN AND SLEEK

>>2141685
>game meant to look like a spreadsheet looks like a spreadsheet, more news at 11
Of course good marks on the UI, but it's just not very interesting.
And with that the first 2 things they reveal are graphics and UI - a terrible sign

New era.

>>2141773
>buying it every year
why? every 3 maximum.

fulham manager got sacked lads. do i go to the prem after 10 years of managing or stick with marseille? i already got them a couple of wonderkids that they'll make bank on at least and the core of the ligue 1 winning team is stil there.

>>2141799
take the job then buy the wonderkids

>>2141773
>>2141784
From the looks of things, this year will be another skip

>>2141685
Looks snappy I guess.

Some things have been confirmed on the website now: saves from 23/24 can be transferred into 26, console version is confirmed, game pass is confirmed, and they promise new info each week, including women's football and new tactics.

>>2141838
Also they posted the first picture of the women's game but removed it. However, this means we for sure have the WSL license and the other image on their page is Angel City FC of the NWSL..

>>2141685
Back to putting the main nav bar up top after 10 years. Hopefully clicking on shit gets you to the right page rather than search bar everything.

Looking at the main landing page, it's like combining the inbox with news calendar and league standings at a quick glance before you dive deeper.

>>2141861
I have to give them credit at least, because I can see that they were trying to make the game a better experience for console/netflix/tablets/steam deck, but also did it in a way that feels like it's just a natural evolution of the previous UI instead of one of those ones where you wonder how the fuck they planned to release it on PC with the most turbo-consolised UI imaginable.

The UI team are the only ones at SI that I currently trust. Like, I think this UI is nice enough that it'll be the basis of most reskins, rather than complete overhaul people normally do.

Player profiles are essentially the same with attributes and position taking up more space. Less dead space for stats and like transfer value although I'm sure you can tweak it.

>>2141864
Just noticed his wage is given as a range, guessing that means base vs total possible wage? Interesting.

>>2141864
>playmaking winger
reckon that works differently or is it just a renaming of the Advanced Playmaker role on the wing?

>>2141773
Oh, wow, that icon looks horrendous.

>>2141864
whre is the attribute octagon? i cannot play without it

>>2141863
This is the version after Miles told them they had to bring back more of FM24 because it was unusable

Fulham offered me backroom changes. I think the move is on lads. Premier League football incoming.

>>2141891
Miles didn't reach that conclusion on his own. They released the videos of it and it got fucking MAULED online by FM players and their hand was forced. Miles is the one who had them making that retarded Ui to begin with.

>>2141884
it's like a volleyball but hands

>>2141894
Don't get me wrong, I blame Miles for how horrendous it was to begin with, but he had the final say

>>2141889
same

>>2141883
Almost certainly just a naming change

>>2141773
>>2141884
>>2141898
Someone a few threads ago mentioned it looks like the shaking hands from that jewish caricature

>>2141773
>>2141898
>>2141916
>>2141884
Can't be unseen.

blowing kisses at my screen so the marseille fans know i still love them even though im going to fulham

>>2141916
lol

>>2141799
>fulham manager got sacked lads.
no the fuck i wasn't

>>2141946
you're getting paid 8k more than me as well, you greedy fucker

>top 3 players at Fulham are two traditional wingers and a DM
I really don't want to do 4-2-3-1 or 4-3-3-. Im gonna have to come up with a wingplay tactic that can get away with 1 DM too.

>>2141950
4-4-2 diamond

>>2141715
How would you design it then?

I like this one

Better picture of women's football, credit to SiMaggioFM

>>2142092
Can't wait for these short humans to have 20 jumping reach

$95 AUD without the 10% discount for miles' rehashed bugslop. I will not pay nearly $100 dollareedoos (equiv of half a bag of groceries) for moidball.

>>2142092
>crowds at moidball
Immersion ruined

>>2142092
how will this operate? will they halve the stats for the females? because even in elite competitions they don't seem to keep formation, link up play well or even how to keep the ball often

>>2142092
>keeper diving out of the way
KINO

>>2141889
for fm26, looks like it's that "attribute analysis" button above his height and reputation/personality.

I know in FM24 you have to replace one of the existing info thingies for the octagon. or go under development.

>>2140962
Because it's rare. Makes them stand out.

>>2141864
what's that? polyamorous winger?? new role?

The UI looks basically the same to me, nothing revolutionary about it.
Just moving some shit around.

I will wait

>>2142093
For an ubermensch, too-intelligent for this shit type of person you are pretty retarded. Otherwise you'd realize that the attributes are relative and not absolute. A 20 in the men's game isn't a 20 in the female's game.

>>2142283
Luckily we won't need to speculate on this because there is a 100% chance of seeing "I put the worst men's team in FM into the Women's Premier League and you will be SHOCKED at what happened" style videos within the month.

>>2142013
I've only ever tried a 4-1-2-1-2 diamond in the Ancelotti style so this is actually an interesting shout, cheers lad.

It feels good to see how active SI are again, their Twitter account is active again after being basically dormant for 2 years. A return to normalcy.

Nothing gets me going quite like a box-to-box midfielder

new trailer is ass, shows literally nothing and is just a slideshow of buzzwords lmao

>>2142449
To be as generous as I feel like being, the ui doesn't look horribly at first glance and its really challenging to show off how a ui is to actually use for hundreds of hours in a couple minute trailer. So, yeah, the trailer is shit but I have literally never seen a ui reveal trailer that worked and yet it is kind of required when they've announced they're overhauling it

>>2142463
the 2nd trailer doesn't show any ui
https://old.reddit.com/r/footballmanagergames/comments/1ne9424/fm26_new_trailer/

>>2142449
definitely meant for a shareholders meeting

>>2142481
ah, I hadn't seen that one yet
yeah, it's not meant for actual players/consumers

how do we feel about the game likely having an in-possession and out-possession tactic in FM26?

>>2142686
Really looking forward to it. New tactical depth, new animations, better graphics, and a whole new side of the game in women's football, along with the revamped UI and whatever features haven't been announced yet means this is shaping up to be a strong release imo

>>2142692
stop doing this. it's not funny.

>>2142686
I'm in favor, it's not like its brand-new as it was in CM games as well. Bear in mind though it doesn't mean the engine will be different, just think of it as a UI change

>>2141710
>71.99 CAD
>Denuvo

Will you buy the mech?

>>2142686
It was a fresh and exciting feature in 1999.

The SI women's football event is taking place in London starting in ~5 hours, might get some more info today as "FM26 showcases" are on the schedule of the event.

>>2142971
its not my fault man, the game just rapes me every time i try to play anything other than gegenpress

Went back to fm16 for a bit since it has less random shit to deal with but there are so many 3 jump cb regens it's insane

>>2143027
For me it's 200PA full-backs with 5 crossing and 3 dribbling

>>2142971
ktim. I'm a bit sad they're removing the meme names this year to make it easier for new players. No more trequartistas or enganches or Segundo volantes. Just 'free CAM' and 'Holding CAM' and 'Advancing DM' or whatever it was

>>2143172
i just retrain them into cbs if theyre tall or dms if theyre short

>>2143187
Bad news, he's short, slow, and has 7 bravery

>>2143186
Horrific.

I am frustrated that there is no "we're playing two friendly matches against nobodies so I dropped you to try some guys who will be on the fringe of the squad for our next competitive matches" option to tell these guys

You'll never believe who wins this year I have no idea since I haven't played that far yet

Vitesse will be interesting to play in 26

>>2144237
liverpool>madrid
city>leverkusen
psg>atleti
inter>leipzig

psg>city

>>2143198
>tf

Any idea why I might not be able to ask to improve junior coaching/youth recruitment, must have been about 2 years by now. FM16 if that matters

>>2144913
Some boards have low youth stats and won't upgrade further.

>>2145113
As it happens I just went into the philosophy but when negotiating a contact and yeah, full red bar on develop using the clubs youth system, the cunt

why are people saying bookmarks are a new feature?
they are literally a tab on the inbox page already

Need an idea for a new club, I've lost interest in my save.

>>2145391
MLS MLS MLS MLS MLS MLS MLS MLS

>>2145391
I've just started managing in Ireland for the first time and it's pretty comfy. No match-day restrictions, no squad registration at all, and you only need to pay like 350 euros per week to get a work permit for a non-EU player.

Can't wait for my beta save, going to start in one of the second tiers and aim to win the Champions League!

https://x.com/FootballManager/status/1967596768717082901

>>2145654
I can't heckin' wait!

i'm excited for wondergirl hoarding

>>2145696
Wondergirl.. I like that.

>>2145696
>teenage girl trafficking simulator
might be interested after all

Love it when some ex-prem old fart agree to play for my midtable club in shittier league. 39 years old Ashley Young instantly became a club legend in my eyes, and his demand didn't break the wage structure at all.

>>2145562
Does height actually matter if jump reach or aerial reach are good?

>>2146310
I don't like my lads to look like manlets during highlights

should i offer a new contract to decent players who are going to leave and try to make loan money off them?
or just let em go for nothing

>>2146412
You always want to try and make money off players, but sometimes it's just not worth the happiness and issues that come from getting them on another contract, especially if you can't get the playing time down

Some interesting things from my current season. Liverpool got out to an exceptionally early lead and have never looked back. Similarly, Forest lost their first two matches and basically accepted relegation without ever putting up a fight (They only have 11 points now). Everton were looking like they might join them in going down but are almost guaranteed safety now.

And we somehow managed to catch everyone by surprise in the first half of the season. I'm certainly not going to complain if we manage to miss out on European competition this coming season, just to give me a full transfer window to clear out a lot of the incumbent players who I don't actually want here. Would've been hilarious, though, if using a variety of random players with none of my own signings had gotten us in the CL one season after being in the championship.

Anyone else waiting to play FM26 before a potential PC upgrade? 9800x3D looks very interesting..

>>2145391
I'm managing Rosenborg in the Norwegian Eliteserien and it's fun. They have some strict demands as to how many players in your team must be Norwegian, have trained in Norway and even a quota for homegrown players.

>>2147176
>Anyone else waiting to play FM26
no, i'll watch the streamers though

>>2147176
Already got a 9800X3D with a RX 7900 XTX, I've got no problems there

>>2147311
What's it like in FM with the 9800x3D?

>>2147388
Pretty good honestly, can't complain

>>2147176
nah not at all, I got this rig in 2020 or 2021, cant even remember and mostly used it for fm and older games, most modern shite is shite
cant imagine fm26 would struggle on it either so I won't be upgrading for at least 2 more years

Are they going to fix the attributes in FM26 so that not only physicals (+ dribbling and concentration) matters? It's boring now that the only thing that matters is acceleration, pace, jumping reach and strength.

Also they have to nerf gegenpress.

Women's football reveal just dropped, with more match engine footage, UI screenshots, and licensing info!

>>2147965
Doubtful. They've been spending the past 5 years on unity and new UI and GRAFIX.

Match engine underneath is still the same until they get around to changing it. It's why 4231 gegenpress has been the default win tactic since the unity announcement years ago.

> one database
This is an absolute fucking disaster

>>2147965
Of course not, nobody left in the company knows how the match engine works

>>2148053
They at least said you can just play with the mens or just the womens, so there is some config you can do

>>2147998
the only thing interesting was the motion capture
>>2148053
why?

>>2147998
>no playable NCAA women's soccer

Not surprising but I'm still curious what they're gonna do with it. For MLS they pretend it doesnt exist and assign the superdraft guys to amateur development clubs - no one minds/cares because that would be like tenth place on the list of issues with MLS in the game

hold on they took 2 years to have animations that have been done better in the last 10 years depending on the year? With players sliding on the pitch mid animation?

>>2146894
Liverpool just refused to drop points.

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6637616/2025/09/18/womens-football-football-manager-26-explained/

New FM26 challenge: win the Champion's League with a full team of hijabis

>>2148406
based

just seen the womens football trailer and laughed when one of the goals was the "gently float a shot into the top corner from a mile out because the keeper is too small to reach there" goal that womens football is infamous for

>>2147965
You know damn well what the answer is

>>2144237
>>2144420
Somehow
0/1 winner
0/2 finalists
1/4 semi
2/8 quarters

Whats the best response to encourage bids without permanently pissing someone off in case they don't leave

>>2147965
of course not
If anything going from the gook match engine to SI's ''new'' one for 26 will be a downgrade

>lost the title deciding game on the last day of the season
>"fuck you nigger" in every additional comment box
>your press conference didn't go well
im fucking glad, fuck you