Thread 2135078

Anno thread.
Anno 117 gets a timed demo tomorrow. Expectations? Personally I hope they don't fuck it up, anno 1800 was great.

>>2135078 (OP)
Looking forward to the demo. loved the setting and gameplay of 1800, I'm not that much into Rome, but the game does look interesting anyway

Anno is the last Ubisoft franchise that has stayed good

>secondary location is fucking england of all places
>black romans
not feeling so good

>>2135203
Also you can bet your ass isn't going to have a slave economy.

>>2135212
>Also you can bet your ass isn't going to have a slave economy.
Idk, 1800 was great at white-washing colonial exploitation in a ridiculous way. Journaleros and Obreros are all smiling happily while they toil away to bring tobacco, sugar, coffee and cocoa to the mainland, and get nothing in return.

Liked 1800 but Rome is boring as fuck, I want future Anno back
2070 was peak soul and 2205 was better looking than 1800, gameplay aside

>>2135299
Neither of the 2 futuristic annos were good, so I'll pass on that garbage fammer.

I've always found anno games just kind of shitty to play. I feel like they run out of content once you've learned the basics. I'm still optimistic, I'll give it a chance.

>>2135212
they'll never say "slave" but I wouldn't be surprised if your population tiers were "servant", "freedman", etc

>>2135302
hush, the adults are talking

>>2135212
Yes, Anno has romantic portrayal of the past as its tenet.
They even say so themselves, you can listen to the presentation they gave on the history in the game at Gamescom.

>>2135308
>likes the most dogshit games in the series because the glowing lights and muh grafics are le gud
>Thinks he's an adult
kys nigger.

>>2135212
>>2135306
iirc the lowest population tier is freedmen

>>2135470
ugh the game is pozzed?!

>>2135472

>>2129316

>>2135078 (OP)
I expect it to be whitewashed & woke. If they show females in administrative offices I won't touch that crap. Simple as.

>>2135470
Please tell me this is photoshopped.

>>2135078 (OP)
what time does the demo start?

>>2135561
>>2135472
>>2135470
least obvious raid, fuck off you already made a thread discussing your nigger keep it there

>>2135212
it's rated T

>>2135566
12 CEST

how long till someone cracks the time limit?

demo is up

>1 hour and first two tiers
What's the point
Plop down a lumberjack, plop a food building, plop a service building and a market, do a rudimentary three building "chain" for some basic good. I don't have to download the game to know exactly what I'll be doing. The first two tiers are the least interesting part of Anno.

Hope there is a crack of the time limit, wish they have you like 4 hours

>>2135584
>>2135648
doubt it, it's a big studio, and if someone did crack it they'd just update it real quick

>90GB for a demo
pathetic

>>2135651
does make me wonder if it is just the full game with a basic lock on it

>>2135652
There's no way they're that dumb. Cracking the time limit might happen but the game beyond the first two population stages just isn't gonna be in there.

the latium NPCs I've met so far seem nice enough

Performance could be a bit better as I am floating around 90 with everything maxed out, but drivers on release might address that.
Game is still fun, although there is a very noticeable console-first philosophy behind their UI design. Nothing mods can't fix though.
Gonna give a couple more runs a go before deciding on whether to pre-order it or not.

>>2135630
okay, you pointed it out
everybody saw it, if some retard doesnt' see it and buys the game then it's just natural selection
can we now leave the malding behind and focus on actually analyzing the rest of the game?
it's woke yes got it

>>2135689
I like the art style
any pics of the opponents if there are any?

>>2135698
nothing that I could find in Latium, starting a Albion game now to see if there's any there

>requires ubisoft connect account
they're still doing this garbage? no thanks

I only played 1404 (which I liked) and 2070 (which I didn't). I want to try 1701, was it good?

>>2135689
why is there a chinese boy

>>2135698
>>2135699
best I could find is the scary welsh lady but she's not a governor
>>2135712
that's actually a woman, though I have the graphics cranked down a bit so all the models look a bit off

>>2135741
Where the black folk at.

>>2135741
no pirates?

>>2135805
not that I came across, wouldn't be surprised if they where turned off for the demo

Never played Anno before but this game has my eye, what's a good place to start in the series and anything I should know before jumping in?

>>2135813
1800 is great to start with, but if you play it you cant play the previous ones anymore because its that good at QOL
if you have time to play all of it start from 1404 or 1701

>>2135805
The not-Boudicca in his picture is the Albion session pirate who apparently gets salty if you Romanise.

Is the optimization garbage or what? It defaulted to Ultra but it sounds like my GPU is going to kill itself.

>>2135836
Optimization is always garbage now. You'll just be told "your PC is a potato, upgrade".
I'm thinking of refunding. I can afford to upgrade, but I don't know if I really want to jump through a hoop because game dev said so.

>>2135836
7800X3D, 4090, 4k resolution.
Getting 70-90 fps. With performance as is, I expect less than 30 when looking at an endgame island.

I fucked around with cheat engine and found the address for gold accidentally (It's just in there as a 4byte value), but didn't have any luck with the demo timer. might try again later

>>2135299
You're right, Anno 2070 had the most soul before 1800.
But can't blame Ubisoft for stepping back from futuristic titles after 2205. It just wasn't interesting and things became too abstract.
They'll have another crack at it some day I'm sure.

>>2135966
Can you pause the timer by pausing the game and then just build a mega island with infinite money?

>>2135990
On the one hand 2070 let you make hyper industrial mega polluted shitholes where you pump out oil or whatever but on the other 1404 gave you stuff like this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnDiTSNfk6A

Both good games but i think the aesthetics of 1404 edge out 2070 for their respective time periods

>>2135299
Anno only properly worked in New World colonialism context. Starting from quasi-medieval 1404 the series looked outright silly with those perpetual islands which are just there to exploit.

Some screens

>>2135712
greeks are DLC and they needed a bottom

>>2136067
Any idea why there are so many fat fucks in this game?

>>2136074
Just fat my shit up senpai

>>2136075
Last one
Thinking i might get BF6 now and wait for this to age a little bit. Not impressed with the demo

>low poly shit
why does this game look like something from 2005?

>>2136039
The islands work in 2070 because they're meant to be the high ground left above water after global warming floods the planet. The old world, Africa, etc. areas being islands in 1800 is nonsensical.

>>2136082
साआर

>>2136096
You basically have to accept that the Anno world is made up entirely of archipelagos. Which I'm fine with, if they lean into it.

>>2136082
enshittification

Also it's very clearly built for consoles.

>>2136082
the British just look like that

>>2135990
>>2136037
>>2135299

I had this dream Anno game dreamed up of basically it was a solar system trading game but I agree with >>2135990 it becomes too abstract. Like trade ships and space combat but it'd be hard to make all the planets/moons feel important and interconnected. I thought 2205 would go that route but instead they did their poor DLCs rather than full moon/planet expansion.

The other idea that would work would be a ww1-coldware/modern setting focused on freeways, airports, etc. Large project could be giant projects or something simple like a space race. Now that I'm thinking about it it'd be even better now with the re-addition of ground combat. Aircraft carriers, Anti-aircraft guns, nukes, troop transports, beach fortifications, Saving Pvt Anno.

>>2136120
I'd love an Anno '45 where it's immediately after the setting's equivalent of WW2, and you are tasked with rebuilding but the area is divided between NATO and the Soviets so you have to manage two populations.

>>2136120
>>2136121
The Anno devs do not like to portrait "negative" parts of history. That's fairly common knowledge among the community. War is minimized and never the focus. Slavery, drugs and suffering in general is kinda brushed over or ignored.
That's a stylistic, deliberate choice on their part. We'll never see a cold war style Anno I don't think.
That said, if the devs were to make such a game (and best not call it Anno), it could be super interesting. Devs are German, they certainly have family members remembering living in the GDR, the older ones among them first hand.

>>2136124
So don't portray it as negative?
You know, Rome had a bunch of slavery...

>>2136075
>Brits: Luv em
>Romans: 'ate em.
>Simple as
Lmao. Is it maybe some issue with your settings?
What preset are you playing on?
Though it's kinda neat how everyone on Albion is that NORF FC guy.

The most comical woke shit in 1800 is the female arctic explorers. I'm expected to believe women were climbing mountains in the arctic. Women as crew on ships that are on months long voyages is absurd too. They'd all be raped and pregnant by the second week and the ship would need to turn back.

>>2135991
nope game timer is always running

>>2135470
Lmao it's over.
If they want to be inclusive make a game in the future.

>>2136125
yeah, almost all whites. This is very problematic for the modern world's agenda.

Game looks visually great, but my only issue was with the UI being a bit obtrusive/clunky.

Overall very happy that it's a lot like 1800. Here's hoping the optimum chain charts get leaked so I don't have to spend so much time thinking of how many buildings are required per chain.

>>2136075
>>2136074
>>2136073
>>2136071
>>2136069
>>2136067
KEK
why are they all norf FC

>>2136082
the anon posting the screencaps said he is running on low settings >>2135741

>>2135078 (OP)
just getting started and it fucking ends. great demo.
I still hate the ui and was fighting with the construction menu popups being in the way of the rest of the menu.

>>2136232
just realised there was no combat either

>>2136249
good

>>2136124
That one is not historical but 2070 is a postapocalyptic setting where resource shortages, nuclear war and climate change presumably made most of the mainland uninhabitable and people live on islands now so there's that. The game is pretty environmentalist so I guess that checks out with the more liberal sensibilities and not necessarily in conflict and even the capitalist megacorp is portrayed as a somewhat reasonable while the greens are not all good and have eco terrorists.

>100gb demo
>requires ubisoft connect
>can only play for an hour
I can deal with 1 and 3 but holy shit why won't they ditch their god awful launcher

UI is not great in 117.

>>2136274
The best part about 2070 is you can be a Captain Planet villain.

>>2136574
made for consoles, please understand

UI is fuckin trash, voice acting is eh, giant "funded by the german government" logo in a game with a black roman officer in Briton. Real crazy choices... I really liked everything else, though. Being able to build diagonally was sweet. The added radius effects to building was cool and helped break up my usual commie blocks

>>2136777
>"funded by the german government" logo
Based, it's about time we put the rest of the world on notice.
You WILL look at this logo every time you start up yet another great entry of one of the best game series.

>>2136814
>published by ubishit

>>2135078 (OP)
>rome slop
yaaaaaaaawn

>>2136574
both use/readability and I also hate the colour. how does that match with the rest of the game?

>>2136777
the UI is for consoles and I fucking hate that, give us a PC UI instead of using one for both
>>2136814
I mean yeah, people need to know where the government money went and to stop people from bitching that germany has no impact on gaming

>>2136777
>voice acting is eh
German voice acting is alright, though
and i won't play Anno in any other language

>>2136777
>>2136896
they should have done latin and celtic voice acting

So it looks like production buildings offer bonuses to nearby houses? Like the Hats and Clothing ones.

>>2135966
https://cs.rin.ru/forum/viewtopic.php?p=3351273#p3351273
Timer can be disabled easily, but saving is still not available in the demo.

>>2137155
thats amazing, i always wanted to have production close to my city but never felt like it worked

>>2135299
I've had a dream of them doing a crossover game, Anno 800 + One Piece. Basically manage the foundation of a kingdom and send a call for Pirates and Adventurers to sail the Grand Line for wealth or power.

Main gimmick I recall was
>Marine bases and Pirate bases were randomized and always fighting. Various versions

I remember 1800 had a bug when the highrise DLC released that unlocked all the achievements for you and they said they couldn't fix it. Killed my desire to play. I hope one day this series is freed from Ubislop

But is it gurt lush or not?

>>2137155
>>2137200
Some have tradeoffs, like garum gives an income boost but a happiness penalty because it smells or some workshops having fire risk. I've also noticed on the tech tree that some nodes give buildings new effects. Like from early techs fisheries don't do anything by default but they can have more income or weavers also giving tech points.
So yeah, it's encouraged that you actually weave in your production buildings into the settlement instead of just squeezing them in the corner somewhere.

>>2137197
fantastic, now I can actually play instead of speed running

Is there a way to get the demo to keep working without ubishit launcher so I can play when it's over.

>>2137316
No. It is literal DRM. You'll have to wait for a crack after release which won't be for some time.

>>2137328
Hopefully the demo will give them a headstart on it like it did for that metaphor game.

We wuz Britannic Romans n shiet

>>2137328
>>2137335
is empress even still active?

>>2137328
>>2137335
>>2137375
Unlikely. Empress didn't release any update after Anno 1800 DLC "Land of Lions". I suspect we won't get Anno 117 from him/her.

>>2137375
I shit you not, Empress started a tranny cult.

>>2137375
no
been dead for years

>>2135470
this looks shopped, its shopped right?

>>2137499
lmao no

>download the demo
>Ubisoft Connect forces itself onto my computer and tells me to register a Ubisoft account
>nope.webm
>uninstall
>remove the game from my wishlist
If a singleplayer game requires me to create an online account, I'm not playing it. It's that simple. Not like I haven't got other shit to play.

>>2137506
that's so cool anon thanks for telling us

>>2137509
You're very welcome. Maybe one day you kids will learn from my example and stop rewarding this kind of bullshit.

Is there an overview of NPCs, opponents/competitors and neutral parties yet? I remember 1800 let the community vote on certain character concepts.

>>2137506
Where did you download the demo from?

interface sucks

too many memory leaks

used way too much GPU power for graphics not much better than 1800

looks like we are paying for a new game that is pretty much just a 1800 mod

>>2137961
Yep

can't wait to buy this game on discount in 3 years

>>2137221
Home...

>>2136074
Why is everyone morbidly obese?

>>2137961
>looks like we are paying for a new game that is pretty much just a 1800 mod
Rest are legit complaints but this is just asinine and false.

>>2138188
they used real british roses for the models

>>2138188
diet of beans on toast

Well thats about as far as you can get in the demo, apart from a few military buildings unlocked by research

>>2138870
Second island needed to max out level 2 resident needs

After playing the demo I think I'll wait for a sale and just play anno 1800 for longer.

>>2136069
>>2136074
It looks like Fable. I mean the character design not the graphics, although it may be time to upgrade anon.

>>2136069
>>2136071
>>2136073
>>2136074
>>2136075
90% of the people in these pics are morbidly obese. Did you tweak some setting or is this just how it is? The population looks even fatter than modern day Britain.

>>2139287
According to state of the art French historiography (pic related), Romans were by and large skinny and morose, while Celtic people were mostly fat and jovial.

>>2139073
praying that ubisoft goes bankrupt and the anno devs are freed from that garbage launcher

Is there a "best" anno game or is it purely based on what time period I'm interested in?

>>2139504
mechanically I think 1800 is the best but it's really down to favorite time period

>>2139504
1404 and 1800 are the best. Rest are shit.

>>2139504
1800 is mechanically deepest, so long as you have all the DLC
2070 is most soulful
Don't bother with anything that came out before 1404

>>2139315
if they go bankrupt teh IP will just get lost in hell like always

>>2139797
>we'll never get the soul of 2070 with the mechanical depth of 1800
Pain.

>>2139869
Yeah, has there been a single IP that was actually freed? They just stay locked down and unused after niggersoft inevitably kills them.

>>2139797
>Don't bother with anything that came out before 1404

Dogshit take.


>>2139504

If you want the definitive Anno experience you gotta play the first one: 1602

Bonus points if youre playing it with the original german localization.

>>2139955
>If you want the definitive Anno experience you gotta play the first one: 1602
I'm generally not a graphicsfag but I really want to get an early modern anno with modern graphics and the ability to view it from street level.

>>2139504
They do add new mechanics, it's not a zombie franchise redoing the same thing over and over like Total War or AoE.

As long as you avoid Anno 2205, you're in for a different experience with each of them.

>>2135344
everybody being african is so romantic yeah

After playing for 30 minutes it's kind of meh. You can't just release that when Against the Storm exists.

>>2139871
I'm surprised that this guy was actually reasonable and they didn't try to turn him into an evil caricature.

>>2139989
>As long as you avoid Anno 2205
What's wrong with 2205? I was thinking either 1800 or 1404. I love the architecture in both.

>>2143238
2205 is utterly shallow. No AI competitors, replaced with a comically evil moon terrorist that you only interact with in arcade style combat maps that don't actually matter.
The game is about going to the moon but the moon only has two tiers, "basic astronaut hut" and "advanced astronaut hut". Want to build a city on the moon? Skyscrapers? Too fucking bad.

>>2143378
>No AI competitors
I turn AI off when I play Anno

>>2143382
Even then, you can still settle the empty AI starting islands. In 2205 there's just nothing. No exploration, all expansion is pre-planned.

>>2143378
>the combat sucks
it's Anno, retard
the combat has always sucked and will always suck
the AI doesn't actually play the game and only exists to decorate the islands you haven't taken yet
>there are fewer population tiers on the moon than the main session
as has been the case with the secondary session in every Anno

>>2143821
I didn't say "the combat sucks", in fact the combat mechanics in 2205 are okay in an arcade-y sense. Easy, but acceptable. The problem is they don't matter once you have maxxed out all the bonus resources that the combat maps provide. It's shit not because Anno does combat poorly, but because 2205 is shit.
>as has been the case with the secondary session in every Anno
The Moon was the main selling point so should have received more focus. Without the lunar colonies, 2205 wouldn't even be capable of justifying its own existence.

I'm going to start playing Anno 1800 for the first time. Is any of the dlc highly recommended for a first timer or is it stuff I should pick up if I decide to keep playing?

>>2144235
Bright Harvest is useful. Otherwise start vanilla.

I'm kind of new, but how does one "Lose" a game of Anno, other than bankrupcy? I see all the DLCs in 1800 specifically are on the cosmetic side, i don't think i get it. Is Anno closer to "Decor your island" Animal Crossing or "There is a war, after all" like a Civ?

>>2144650
Middle to high end rivals passively lose reputation which eventually results in war if you dont do anything to counteract it.

>>2144650
High end competitors in 1800 are generally dangerous. Hunt will go after the weakest player in the session (who will probably be you unless you're militarymaxxing), Alonso is a wildcard who will wardec you at random, and Vicente won't pick fights if you are strong enough but also builds up substantial military
The tier 2 competitors are tame by comparison but need to be appeased if you don't want to piss them off (beryl and carl being the worst since they despise land grabbing)

So GOG is the only way to legally play 1404 and earlier without the shitty ubisoft launcher?

>>2143378
2205 is a pretty fun city builder but a shitty anno game

God damn replaying 1404 after playing 1800 is rough. So many quality of life features that you take for granted just isn't here. Still a great game though.

>>2135470
Speaking of which, is there a mod to disable or change the black "scholars" in 1800? I can't find anything from the usual places.

>2151939
what a snowflake

>>2151939
I wish

>just minding my own business buildan’ cities and settan’ up trade routes
>suddenly von Malchen declares war on me

The demo killed any excitement I had for 117, but I am still having fun with 1800. Hopefully they fix 117 up and I can grab it on sale next year.

>>2153474
>The demo killed any excitement I had for 117,
Why the fuck is everyone so fat? It looks really unnatural.

>trelaney quest spawns a journal in the water next to a random trade ship at one of my fuck off islands
Srsly? Thought the questline bricked until i double checked

>>2135470
SHIEEEEEE

>2151956
just tryin' to remove a shieeeet stain, brother

>>2154956
How tf did you manage to make Qing angry?

>>2158306
showed her my penis

>>2158306
this is a screenshot from reddit, but as long as you build zero military you will eventually be so outpaced by even one star AIs they will declare war on you

>>2135078 (OP)
I'm replaying Anno 2070 and have the issue that I don't recieve any career points. According to Google & certain Reddit posts five months ago there were issues with the Ubisoft servers but it should have been fixed. Yet I still don't recieve them - do any of you know of some possibilities for fixes?

Any of the 1800 DLC worth picking up during the sale?

>>2159765
Maybe some of my picks might be controversial.

Closest to must haves imo:
Bright Harvest:
>tractors make a huge difference for farms
>arguably maybe too huge
>also adds silos for animal farms
>increase productivity in exchange for grain/corn consumption
Land of Lions:
>adds another completely new region in not-Ethiopia
>adds items and the Research Institiute
>the institute can create almost every item
>also allows changing deposits and fertility and moving clay deposits and oil wells on an island
Seeds of Change:
>adds a hacienda for farming in the New World
>has strong farming modules and meh residence modules
>also gives access to some policies like reduced residence needs
>also adds fertilizer silos as equivalent to the grain silos for crops
New World Rising:
>allows using electricity in the New World and adds a 3rd pop tier in it
>adds 1 huge island into the New World with a dam monument which produces electricity
>allows upgrading Hospitals, Fire Stations and co. in exchange for needing to supply complex goods

Mostly add more stuff and late game but don't change things as fundamentally:
Sunken Treasures:
>adds a 2nd Old World region
>including 1 huge island,Crown Falls, for building large cities
>also adds some item crafting
Empire of the Skies:
>adds rigid airships for transport and combat
>adds the postal lifestyle need which is another source of income and population
High Life:
>extra endgame challenge
>skyscrapers allow stacking more investors and engineers into less space
>in turn they demand new goods and buildings while incurring maintenance
>perfect "I want more endgame content"
Tourist Season
>adds Tourists as auxiliary Old World population which only visits to pay for stuff but isn't a work force
>care more about attractiveness and culture buildings
>adds new production chains to satisfy their needs
>another mid-late game "challenge"

>>2159765
If you want to complete the collection:
The Passage:
>adds a completely new region in the arctic
>adds an airship, gas power plants instead of oil and is another source for fur and gold
>also adds some item crafting similar to Sunken Treasures
>kinda got power creeped by later DLCs
Seat of Power:
>adds a palace which can give long range boni depending on the modules build
>can also use policies for even stronger and more specific effects
>neat for optimizing an island, especially Crown Falls, but far from a must have
Botanica:
>only adds another Zoo equivalent for plants
>gives extra attractiveness but that's it

A group of its own:
Docklands:
>allows bartering goods through the docklands harbor building
>could be in the same group as Tourist Season and co. but is actually very impactful
>kinda busted with items where exporting a product can support the resources required to produce it and then some

>>2159901
do the silos actually work out as a positive trade?

>>2159927
Yeah.
A silo increases productivity by 100% and gives 1 extra good every 3 cycles.
So a pig farm for example goes from 1 ton per minute to ca. 2.66 tons.
Or in other words 2 pig farms with silos produce slightly more than 5 and 1/2 normal farms
And 1 basic grain farm can support 5 silos. Or to keep with the example 1 grain and 6 pig farms produce slightly more than 13 pig farms on their own.

To put that into perspective you get for 170 farmers and 220 upkeep what otherwise would require 390 farmers and 520 upkeep.
And if I'm not wrong you need 240 tiles for the pig farms + silos and another 156 tiles for the grain farm for a total of 396 tiles.
Compared to the 546 tiles for 13 pig farms.

>>2159951
*produce slightly "less" than 5 and 1/2 normal farms

>>2159904
Botanica is really the worst of the bunch. The devs made a mistake going with zoos in the base game rather than botanical gardens, as zoos would have been an okay-ish DLC but botanical gardens as DLC is a joke.

>>2159968
Can't disagree. At most it offer something for Tourists and ultimately should have been part of another DLC if not the base game.
I suspect that it is a result of them not expecting to be able churn out content for so long.
Passage is a similar, though not as bad of an, example.

just get all the dlc 4 free

>>2160478
Looks like csrin has an unlocker but I'm not finding the DLC files for download anywhere.

>>2160533
cause they're all already on your pc. the "unlocker" is just a tiny file that says you can access them.

>>2160537
>cause they're all already on your pc
I forgot. I'm playing a campaign game at the moment. Is it best to finish that out or can I unlock the DLC halfway through?

>>2160541
>can I unlock the DLC halfway through?
All DLC should work fine if activated midgame.

>>2160541
you can. but there is obvious stuff that will require a new map generation.

>>2160577
Are you sure there is anything?
I think even NWR just expands the existing map.

>>2160702
huh, even if it does theres still entirely new kinds of islands (with less rivers) you can choose to generate at the start of a campaign.

>>2160706
>with less rivers
That I wasn't aware of

>>2142118
>this guy was actually reasonable
He fucking wasn't, get those rose-tinted glasses off your nose
Thorne is as much of a capitalist caricature as the rest of global trust inc., being the spokeperson of the conglomerate he is very much focused on getting results from other members to please investors and only act if these interests are threatened
Only reasons you remember him that way is because his first action is applying the concept of meritocracy by promoting you after you cleaned up the mess made by a mongoloid and the only other tycoon elements you interact with is that massive retard Strindberg and the greasy ass oil baron Sokow, Banes act like any other CEO billionaire and the rest are merely the talking heads of your tycoon pops

hello, i'm thinking about buying all of Anno 1800 now that it's complete.
Does "The Definitive Annoversary" have all content DLC's? The name would suggest it does, but everything I've found on the internet seems to suggest it doesn't have the season 5 DLC included. The Steam page inconveniently doesn't actually say what is included

>>2160946
There is no season 5. There's even a comparison list up on the steam page. If you don't give a shit about cosmetics, just the gold edition is enough to get all gameplay content.

>>2160992
This

>>2135078 (OP)
Been long, long fucking time since I was excited for a game to come out. Like I think Shogun 2 was the last one I felt anticipation for. Haven't watched any demos or read anything about this one, just played a little anno 1800 and then heard this was in the works. Hopefully it's good because I want to try it.

>>2161342
the demo is still available for 117. Give it a try before doing anything as silly as preordering.

>>2135470
Wow, that's a cool dock

>>2135470
>Triboon Negrus of Subsaharum
Ubisoft

>>2161868
Sahara is an Arabic word (for desert), anon.
>Tribalis homo aethiopis.

>>2135078 (OP)
The futuristic one was best

>>2166943
1800 noticeably improved on it.
QoL changes alone make it hard to go back to the older titles.

>>2135470
I wouldn't mind if he looked like an Ethiopian or Sudanese, y'know, one of the African cultures Rome actually made contact with, Aksum or Nubia but he looks like a fucking West African, which is the form of black person Americans are most familiar with since most of their slaves came from there.

>>2161885
I'm sorry, I didn't pay attention in the four years of Latin I took. I only really retained the Ovid readings we did.

>>2159904
I hate docklands, it feels like cheating but it's so convenient
one of those thinks I wish didn't exist and now I have to make sure to turn off

>>2168437
>feels like cheating
Mindset issue, docklands is a great representation of how it worked IRL.
Big issue are the items which are inherently busted in 1800.

>>2168477
The problem is there is never any market crash or low inventory events or a disruption in the service, it even works after you wipe out all factions, it is magically spawned items on the clock, and it can bring so many items you can use it to supply saturate a big island with it, it's not just *a few extra items* or a little helping surplus to help with high-demand, it's a shitload of items.

Some of them are very late game item chains that take a long time, effort and space to make, and it works per island so it quickly gets out of control.
it would be fine it it were only raw materials and some basic byproducts so you can make up for lack of raw resources on bad islands but high-end shit is too much feels like cheating when I can print late game cars and machines from this sekrit shadow superpower faction.

>>2168496
I didn't mean items as in goods but trade union items which make docklands "broken".
The unlock conditions for higher level trades alone makes it less appealing than setting up your own manufacturing line.
And where it actually gets cheaty is when you add trade union items that give extra goods and/or change the input.
The Fine Cake Decorator, which is just rare, for example allows you to import grain, mill it to flour, bake it into bread and get chocolate along side it.
The 10 tons/min grain would not only get you 10 tons/min of bread but also 2tons/min of chocolate.
Chocolate which you can export for 28 tons/min of grain.

Anno 1800 has an item balance issue not docklands.

>>2167063
Unfortunately you're not allowed to have East African people in media, otherwise the usual suspects will go REEEEE WHITEWASHING FEATURES WHERE XBOX HUEG NOSE

>steam reviewa for the demo rightfully shitty on the horrible UI
Didn't expect for normalfags to wise-up to the absolute state of modern AAA UI design.

>>2169333
Only hope that means they will actually fix it. They already made some changes based on the dev stream they did not so long ago

>>2135470
PROKURATOR KURWINIUSZ

it's unreal how bad it runs vs 1800 and doesn't look that much better
I really don't want to upgrade my gpu right now but holy fuck my mega city in 1800 ran better than a 1 minute long 117 city

>it's an old build
It's almost a meme at this point any time a demo comes out and it is bad. I really hope it's an old as fuck build but I will not be touching this for a long time.

>>2170907
I sure hope it is an old build because supposedly it gets really fucky if you remove/change the time limit. Performance apparently nose dives quickly.

>New dev blog detailing multiplayer
>Can freely switch between single and multiplayer at any time
>Can do live cloud saves, anyone can just play on their own with someone else then playing from where you left off
>Cross-play
That's pretty neat.

centurion nigerius status?

>>2172912
>Can freely switch between single and multiplayer at any time
how does that work? does the ai takeover for the player?

>>2135078 (OP)
What's the appeal of modern Anno?

t. still playing 1503 on regular basis, got repulsed by 1701 and never stayed with any later games than single afternoon

>products still teleport through warehouses
Well, let's hope for the next one

>>2173112
>What's the appeal of modern Anno?
im not 40+

>>2173112
1800 is extreme wide and deep. One of the few modern games to really impress me with its scope.
>>2174129
It does suck trains weren't used for this in 1800.

Holy kino

for some reason I like the color scheme and the filter. 1800 it was too cold for me

>>2174221
https://youtu.be/F05LXyhhvCs

>>2135078 (OP)
any dlc leaks? i mean we obviously gonna get something egypt and or greek themed but what else?

>>2174226
It looks like
>Pompeii/ crowns fall style thing
>collaseum games and shit
>egypt

>>2174237
dafuq we'd do in pompeii? resort town and natural disasters?

>>2174226
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sEgxhD9bDkw
Their new trailer from today mentions their titles.
>Prophecies of Ash
>The Hippodrome
>Dawn of the Delta

>>2174261
Based on the title in >>2174267 I'm guessing this has to do with the origins of the pyromaniac cult in 1800?

>>2174267
They had what, 4 dlc packs previously? So that'll be the first wave. Egypt was always a safe bet since the big schtick in Egypt would presumably be the (anachronistic) ability to make big monuments like the worlds faire. I Legit thunk on what else they could do regionally. IF 1:1 then:
Old world: Rome
New world: Albion
"Big fucking island to build a fun city": Probably the pyro DLC.
Ethiopia place I forget the name of: Egypt
Arctic: ??????
It isn't likely to go to the far east but I think it'd be neat to have instead of irrigation have it be terraces from mountains for rice. I'm just not sure of what else it could be. Maybe the near east with it being a focus on trade (lots of smaller islands you need to coordinate between), or

Also lol stilts for the marshes for the natives, I'm definitely going Romano-Celtic.

>>2174145
>Licia Ma
sexxooooooo

>>2174335
>Arctic: ??????
Didn't the Romans believe that the North was a bunch of islands with the most famous one being called Scatinavia where the Hilleviones lived? Seems like a rather easy scenario to adapt.
>It isn't likely to go to the far east
Considering how well received the New Horizons mod was, I wouldn't be surprised if the devs go full alt-history larp to also appeal to their new Chinese overlords. Something along the lines of "ohhhhh, big powerful empire across the sea with many great philosophers and scientists, we have to build a trade post there"

>>2174335
I'd legit buy into some atlantean/myth based fantasy stuff

So turns out that there is an early access version of Anno 117 out already exclusively for content creators, many of which are streaming or releasing videos of it right now. Seems to contain the full campaign at the very least.

>>2174226
mid

>>2174445
Honestly, it's okay?
>Ash
Basically Cape Trelawney right off the bat, which is smart.
>Hippodrome
Eh, at least it's not the same mistake as Botanica.
>Delta
Hopefully this session isn't forgotten like the Arctic was, but otherwise this is also good.
I'd call this a strong start for the first DLC season.

I watched Nirvarious play the game for a little while in his video yesterday. It looks just okay. Honestly it feels like the game has repurposed 1800 assets. Just feels like an expansion rather than a new game 6 years later. I love Rome and will probably buy it but I'm disappointed. I remember on Steam we warned them the UI was shit like a year ago and they changed nothing. Will this be as good as Caesar 3? Highly doubtful.

>>2174442
Nirvarious said he has the full release version but I dunno all the details

>>2174145
That UI is so fucking bad. Worse than 1800.

>>2135221
Buying slaves in Britain and the US was illegal by 1806 and 1807 I think. Mostly slave labor in the 1800s was new world generational slaves used in agriculture. In Rome slaves were far more ingrained in life and economy.

>>2174598
>Just feels like an expansion rather than a new game 6 years later.
I think that is somewhat unavoidable.
1800 was good, really good, and most of its, many, DLCs were pretty great too.

The devs have very little incentive to switch up a successful and well liked approach to the game . So all we can see are some iterative improvements like multiple goods fulfilling the same need and buildings giving boni from residences.

sooooooo

there is no way to mod the production lines to have a stable income early on like with wood to soap to prison in 1800 and then using that money to buy watches from archie and sell them to ethiopian king

>>2174804
Never liked the soap to pocket watch pipeline

>>2174852
nontheless some of the trade union modifications allowed to save a lot of space on the island

Is there really no way to mod production lines in 117?

>>2174145
>trump has been in president for 12 years and there are still brownoids in my Rome game
what the fuck? i thought he was supposed to fix everything

>>2174606
Slavery during the Roman Empire was a complicated subject, and very detached from the circumstances of slavery in the modern period. In fact, it was the opposite in many ways.
While slavery in the United States for example was mostly agricultural, the Roman public hated agricultural slaves because they displaced small farms with big estates and resulted in mass unemployment. Contrarywise, slaves in the Roman Empire were used to brute force any given industrial or construction problem; and arguably prevented Rome from entering an industrial age equivalent because any of their era's problems could be solved by slaves and there was no need for machines or mills to do anything.

>>2174600
You ui niggers never ever ever point to the concrete facts whats exactly wrong with the ui, it's always just "shit" and "soulless"

>>2174912
it's too flat. it should look like it's carved out of marble because we're in rome but instead it looks like it was made for your mobile phone.

It's not skeumorphic enough, either. Pic related is a SOVLFVL ui

>>2174882
Highly debatable how much that impacted the Romans. It's not like early to high medieval machines were that much better.

>>2174943
This shit only looks good on 4:3 crt monitors

>>2174993
High medieval machines were that much better. The Medieval Era saw the perfecting of numerous classical inventions. It was the chaos and population declines in the Middle Ages that justified the use of machines and paved the way for the industrial age.

>>2174912
Grug just listen to gut. No use big word need.

damn I remember the redhead used to be much hotter

>>2175364
Concept art vs 3d model

>>2135078 (OP)
What do you think Anno will do next? I know the game JUST came out, but I don't give a fuck about the Roman Empire. I'm hoping that they keep all the same mechanics but remake 1701. They would make it woke though...

>>2175441
what happened to her hot light eyes

>>2159018
Why does this look better than modern shit

>>2139504
1404 by far

>>2175481
Didn't particularly like land "combat" in this one, so probably the next time ill just Netflix and chill my way thru

>>2175506
Why can't a global colonization sim from the perspective of the British be properly done?!? They have consistently have failed since 1983.

>>2175509
I think secretly the ultimate British elite at the top is a bunch of literally nazi authoritarians aristocrats and bankers and their goal with the rapefugees and digital IDs is a longtime new world order kinda shit

>>2175515
Exactly. Ever since the 18th century, the British Crown has been ruled by Germans. This is why they don't want an Anno 1700 style game to be from the British perspective or to be historically accurate. So fucking sad.

>>2176971
niggers can't screenshot

parthian shit for season 2 confirmed?

>>2177058
also something carthage themed?

>>2177062
global warming sisters....we did it

>>2177058
Armenia might be the arctic equivalent, and might be that shit I was speculating for the far east with mountainous islands.

>>2135470
>Procurator
New synonym just dropped

>>2174912
Its fucking ugly. How do you not look at and see how fuckig bland ans ugly it is? And has no style, no motiff, its the most watered-down utilitarian piece of shit. This isnt a fucking military system, this is a video game about rome. I want to feel like Im a Roman performing governer work. I want to feel like Im reading scrolls, flipping through libraries, walking in estates. This doesnt feel like im in the time period. It doesnt feel I am actually the role that the game claims I am performing.
It doesnt help that its also functionally inferior to anno 1800.

>>2139955
Agreed with this anon, with the first game you have the perfect sweetspot between user friendliness and Austrian/German economy sim soul (like imagine pic related, except it's a joy to play). With the sequel there were tons of controversial gameplay changes but it's still great. Unfortunately that's the last game by Max Design and true Anno died

>>2177063
Which retard did that? That's almost surely Cyprus, not Greece.

>>2174155
Thing is, I tried 1800.
Hell, I even bought it on a sale, thinking that maybe the pirate copy is lacking something real deal has, then played it for the whole day. After all, everyone keeps talking how awesome this game is.
... and still don't see the appeal. Now I have a game I can't refund and don't play, because it's just not interesting to me, and having mechanics that don't really appeal to me (I still consider the "dual cities" from 1404 to be a terrible design choice that removed me out of the game 30 minutes after I reached that point of development - and 1800 asks me to handle colonies for supplies)
I just don't get it. The only good thing after 1503 that happened in my eyes, or rather ears, was 2070's soundtrack. Everything else was meh/10.

>>2174856
>German dev
>French publisher
>MUH DRUMPF!

>>2177200
>Die Fugger II
This game was fun as hell even with all its flaws
And still, I consider 1503 a strick upgrade of 1602, thanks to fixing the obnoxious bugs 1602 had. Sure, they could just patch the shit out of the original, but this still works for me.

>>2135470
>Procurator De Maximus Crimus
That's worse than Black Scholars.
Fuck that game.

>>2177263
>thats almost surely greece, not greece

>>2177283
I found 1503 more bugged in an obstrusive way dessu, like ores not getting detected until you reload your damn save

>>2177056
Is it a meme or are they this retarded? There's like 4 different easily accessible ways to take screenshots on modern systems.

>>2177392
You can at least reload.
In 1602 you can get bugged military units, so they don't work, period.

>>2177263
Türk hands typed this

>>2177564
Retarded.
The vast majority of people don't have basic computer literacy, as they don't learn it in school nor are they smart enough to just look it up online.

>>2177155
show me a soulful UI from the past decade (/vst/ only/

>>2177063
>>2177263
Thats Rhodes next to Anatolia

>>2158306
>How tf did you manage to make Qing angry?
I once played a chill multiplayer game to help a buddy get into the game. His economy and society became so reliant on spamming propaganda and extra working hours she got pissed off and dec'd him.

>>2135078 (OP)
I have to say I'm thoroughly impressed with what they are going for in Anno 117, the fact that production buildings also buff residential buildings is so fucking cool, I can't wait to mess around with it while designing my cities.

boobies

>>2177586
the only relevant ones are cannoneers and they never let me down, having beat all campaigns
can you describe said bug?

>>2179196
I will now buy your game

>>2178041
Against the Storm right off the top of my head.

>>2178041
Kingdom Come Deliverance (not sure about the second game but from what I've seen the sequel has worse UI)

>>2181108
The UI might be the only decent thing about KCD2.

>>2181269
shut up chud, get off the bandwagon

>>2177564
prt sc button, and?

>>2181540
Bandwagon deez nuts
If they didn't make the combat even worse in the sequel I might find something good to say about it.
Or if they had managed to write stories that isn't competing with the biggest hacks which doesn't rely on KOing the PC all the time in cutscenes.

>>2181585
Nta but what I can think of right now are:
>windows button + shift + s for snipping tool
>also doable trough the start menu
>technically alt+ prntsc for a screenshot of the active window
>and then there is F12 which both steam and ubisoft use

>>2181907
>KOing the PC all the time in cutscenes.
what kinda amd processor you got there?

>>2181947
Anon, acting like an esl doesn't make for good comedy, please stop.

4K60FPS on Ultra is borderline impossible - unless you give in to capitalism and pay Nvidia horrendous sums of money for their flagship model, 4k30FPS is a possibility, because this is still anno we are talking about and 30FPS are sufficient for that. I am not even going to consider the 144fps target, because a) why would you need it, and b) it's not like any card can deliver that right now anyway.

For the average joe: You'd expect modern medium price range cards could run this game at Ultra-1080p-60FPS, but they mostly don't. All the raytracing benchmarks are with upscaling enabled. Even with that you gotta have at least an RTX 4070 to run it, and it does not become any better without Raytracing but in native resolution. What most importantly was not tested: Raytracing in native resolution. You don't have to be an expert to guess that the numbers there will look even worse.

There is no card under 500-600€ that can run this game on Ultra settings at Ultra-1080p-60FPS according to these benchmarks, and the real numbers with those cards on your PC will be worse, because you'd not likely pair them with one the markets best CPUs available (Ryzen 7 9800X3D). I'd be interested in performance tests with medium and high settings to see how well you can play on affordable GPUs, but one thing is for sure, this game eats most GPUs alive and you will have to lower your settings even on Full HD.

And as a cherry on top, just look at the city they built for a moment - PCGamesHardware themselves acknowledge that real cities will be much bigger, and they just didn't have the time and permission to grow a city to that level and will deliver benchmarks with a big city later. If you recall the performance impact of big cities in 1800, this will likely be the same in 117 as there is not much you can optimize about rendering a metric ton of game objects.

>>2182030
I seriously question why a city builder of all things needs to have AAA graphics. 1800 had what I consider to be good enough on all levels. Stuff like "OMG THE GRASS IS FULLY RENDER" means nothing when I will spend the vast majority of my time from several miles up.

>>2135078 (OP)
there are fucking black romans in centurion armor what a joke

>>2182030
I could play 1800 in 4k maxed out on a 4090 and a 7800X3D, but building a giant city on Crown Falls and zooming in a bit would chug down my FPS to 40, all the way from 144.
I'm hoping 117 is optimized enough to hand 4k on high-ish settings with minor upscaling to achieve consistent 60 FPS+, but we will see.

All the buildings look incredibly bland. Nothing pops out. The pop tiers of previous games stood out and the production buildings looked more interesting. Anno 1800 for example everything looked unique. This game just looks really bland and a cheap 1800 reskin

>>2182246
It's unfortunately common for Anno games.
2070 was another example where the building design was anemic. You actually have to have some ambition, even at lower tiers. A village or small town should still look good.

>>2182934
>2070
2205, excuse me. 2070 looked great.

>>2182246
haters said the same about 1800 I can distinctly remember this
*shrudge*
I think it's fine. the ui however is as bland as it gets

>>2182947
But compare the style and visual distinction between anno 1800 pop tiers. Farmers, workers, artisans, engineers, and investors. Each upgrade really stands out. You recognize most everything you build. Churches and windmills. Everything pops out and looks so much better. With this all I see is a sea of red tile roofs.

Breaking report! - Governor Marcus has attacked and killed a local Medicus with a silenced gladius. Only revealing his identity after flirting with a plebian woman at the market and then being arrested by the centurion Negrocus Maximus Crimus at the local tavern. Marcus now faces decimation if found guilty by the Pro-Consul.

>>2183113
>faces decimation
Which tenth are they going to cut off?

>>2183164
His benis, obviously.

Is the ubisoft launcher dead yet, is it gone?

>>2182246
>>2182951
In 1800 (and other Anno games) they use roof color to distinguish the different tiers, but Rome is kind of known for its red-roofed buildings.

>>2185124
But they should make concessions for gameplay

>>2185124
>>2185155
Roof tiles are still colored differently. For me its immediately apparent which buildings belong to each tier.

been playing 1800, it's just first to navy wins and all you have to do is blow up enemy port, hopefully rome's pvp since it has ground troops is deeper but it's not bad. The rome setting is very good, basically a successor to caeser 3.

>>2182936
>2070 looked great
MUH BLOOM

>>2135470
aaaand I'm out

>>2186106
Have you not looked into the game at all? You can see the land combat. It's basically budget total war combat.

>>2135470
there were no niggers in roman armies. Not buying this slop.

>>2186569
how do you know that? are you a time traveller?

>>2186581
historians have been writing about rome for 2000 years now dipshit

>>2186879
Which only means so much. Historians have their issues too, see all the retards obsessing about Alecander the Great being gay simply because he was devastated by losing his beat buddy.

>>2186879
((((History)))) is a fanfiction by the winners, chuddy

>>2186879
Science says you're wrong
Here is the key historical evidence for Sub-Saharan Africans in the Roman military and society:
1. The Ethiopian Soldier (Britain, c. AD 210)
Who: An unnamed soldier, referred to in the historical text Historia Augusta as an Aethiops quidam e numero militari (an Ethiopian from a military unit).
Significance: This is a direct textual reference to a Black African serving in the Roman army, specifically in Britain at the far north of the Empire. The account describes his extremely dark skin being noted as an ill-omen by the Emperor Septimius Severus (who was himself from North Africa). This confirms that individuals of Sub-Saharan African descent were integrated into the Roman military, though his rank is not specified beyond being part of a unit.
2. General Presence in the Military
Auxiliary Units: It is known that Black African soldiers were often recruited into auxiliary units. Trade routes and military expeditions extended into the Sahara, and the Romans had contact with kingdoms south of Egypt and North Africa.
Archaeological Evidence: Excavations, particularly in Roman Britain, have uncovered skeletal remains that, based on DNA or cranial analysis, suggest Sub-Saharan African ancestry. The "Ivory Bangle Lady" from York, for instance, was a wealthy woman of African descent, suggesting that some individuals had achieved high social status, whether through birth, marriage, or as highly-valued freedpersons.

>>2135470
WE WUZ ROMAINZ N SHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET

>>2186923
>unironically using the Historia Augusta as if it's a reliable source
>pretending that the Ivory Bangle Lady is aethiops
Copypasting an AI response only makes you look retarded. My usual tactic is to get whatever AI they're using to say the opposite of what they posted. I've been able to do it every time.

>>2186886
Yes the same people who tell you how gay the greeks were are telling you about all the niggers in history. They are all cut from the same marxist cloth.
>>2186896
Yes I'm sure all the history is Jewish. Fucking retard. Is that your excuse for inserting niggers in Rome? If anything it's the Jews trying to push that.

>>2187071
well nevertheless history proved you're wrong once again hehe, now you may go back

>>2187071
>Ivory Bangle Lady
Did they ever do a DNA test on her? I remember when this was all originally brought up. I just looked and there's just the same articles from a few years ago saying that they're going to do DNA analysis. They thought that she might be North African but that's based on skull analysis.

>>2187225
No DNA, the other "black" one they did test came out as EastMed not SSA.

>>2189827
Any idea how long it normally takes or is it likely they got some results they weren't happy with and decided to bury it? They made a big deal out of it but that was 2022 or 2023.

>>2190065
It takes less than a day to get results. Genetic testing is a perfected science.
The reality is that Rome likely used North African cavalry auxiliaries in Britain because Rome always farmed out its light cavalry to foreigners. However, there is ZERO evidence that Rome ever used Sub-Saharan Africans of any kind in its legions, let alone made one a commander. It's unlikely they were even used as slaves in any significant capacity.

Hey Ubi-Thorlof if you're reading this, you're going to lose your job you kraut cocksucker. Better begin applying to a new job. You limp wristed marxist faggot. You and your whole fucking ubi studio are going to lose your jobs after this failure of a game and you know it. You desperate faggots.

>>2191278
based

>>2191278
Never gonna happen.
Kraut government subsidies the with funding, ubisoft won't pull the plug on them. They will only die when ubisoft itself dies.

>>2191403
We will find out. Come back here when they cry about sales and blame the racist anno community who couldn't handle their blackwashing of roman history

>>2191558
hey astroturf sister, did you know that literally the vast majority of players dont care lmao

>>2186569
there were, but they all were all alluxaries which were threated as cannon fodder
>>2186581
he read roman documents and requierements for one to join legions perhaps. its not like roman code of laws and entire beurocratic process was preserved in writing or anything.

>>2186879
they were white racist historians. show me black historian which diesproves this. jewish historians will do too.

>>2192165
They do care, it's falling apart for you, ubsoft You are so desperate you are now calling your customers names in the forums and responding to every thread on steam. Even Germans are mad because you put woke gendered conjugation language into their localization.

>>2193191
Nobody cares, chud.

I cant wait to review bomb this turd lel

>>2193191
>Germans are mad because you put woke gendered conjugation language into their localization
No one tell him

>>2193191
not my problem astrochud

>>2193505
well it's not my problem because I'm not buying this crap of a game. It's Ubisoft's problem and their bottom line problem.

>>2135078 (OP)
The Annonaki!

Game is so dead nobody talking about it despite giving it to streamers for free for a month before launch

feels like a reskin 1800. I'll wait till it's on sale for $5 and pirate all the dlc like I did with Anno 1800

is the demo good? should i play it? i love rome. is it as good as the old Caesar city-builder games?

>>2135470
wait nvm, just saw this. guess i wont be playing this game.

>>2206559
It has a time limit and kicks you out of your game after an hour or something like that. The demo was met with a bunch of bombed reviews so they disabled them on steam.

>>2201748
>visually not that impressive but requires 100 gigs and insane system specs
>dogshit demo
>soulless ui, shittier portraits than anno 1800
>no sexo females unlike 1800 to grab the eye
>negrious africanus crimus to chase away the eye
>ubisoft launcher
>denuvo
>9999999 pricetag
>already chopped into pieces that will be sold seperately
To me the gameplay look better than 1800. But in all other aspects it seems worse. I want to play it. But the barrier of entry is too steep.

>>2214049
maybe I'll play after a few updates where they realise there is no console audience and fix things/more content